/vr/ - Retro Games

In this moment, I am autistic. Not because of any phony psychologist's prognosis. But because, I am enfeebled by my incompetence.

>Every smt neutral route

>>4900620
In this moment, I am bucolic. Not because of any phony gardener's botany. But because, I am flourishing by my photosynthesis.

>>4900743
Except in 4:A where you take god's place in Massacre.

>>4901294

>>4900634
this

>>4900620
Man, that game sucked.

>another jrpg where you kill god
Toss it in the pile with the rest of them

>>4903183
what about an rpg where you are god and you kill yourself like you're rolling over in your sleep except you're immortal

>>4903270
you lost me

>>4903278

>>4900620
God Jesus fuck look at that aspect ratio.

>>4903285
there's a pc remake so its ok

>>4903287
I mean port

it's not a remake

it's just a port with good framerate and stuff

>>4903291
Yeah, you can even rip your original Dreamcast saves and use them in the Anniversary Edition. 60FPS battles were added as a patch, dual audio and pretty high resolution cap

>>4900620
>>4901640
cringe

>>4901294
>>4903284
based

>>4903284
How does that translate into "you are god"?

>>4903183
Is there any blatantly pro-Christian jRPG?
Some DQ plots veer towards this, or in any case the pseudo-Catholicism that's featured in these games.

>>4903816
Just choose Law in most Smt games, It's the best alignment in most games anyway

>>4903816
the churches in Fire Emblem games are swell for the most part, in the Elibe games you can even recruit their pope.

>>4903816
Earthbound, I guess, but I don't know if praying to defeat an intergalactic space demon counts as pro-Christian.

>>4900620
>>4903183
I don't get this meme. Do you seriously think the mythology expressed in old Japanese console games is some kind of attack on your American evangelical faith?

It's not even a common trope. You would struggle to find even three games where you "kill god".

Do you give a speech to your youth group warning them of the dangers of JRPGs; how they can turn people away from god?
Now that would be cringe.

>>4904316
You don't know what you're talking about, either. The meme is an example of narcissistic atheist types.

>>4900620
I hate this type of plot

>>4904472
he's pretending he didn't understand that because op post hurt his feelings

>>4904316
Lol, it's a tired and overused trope that you can find in a bunch of Japanese games.

>>4904316
>You would struggle to find even three games where you "kill god".

FF9, FF10 and FF13

>>4903809
you'd have to play the actual game to get it I guess but in Legend of Mana your player character is an avatar of the mana goddess living through a dream that returns mana to the world as you remember it and re-experience it

>>4904654
Huh. I played through the whole game at least five times and never got that. The opening text never made any sense to me either.

>>4904708
lots of people who go through life scoffing at poetry or the inherent symbolism and multiple meanings of words end up missing out on a lot of compressed contextual information transmitted through language.

it's fine though, you don't need to be able to learn everything

>>4904316
>find even three games where you "kill god"
I'll do you one better, I'll name three franchises where killing god comes out multiple times: Xeno, SMT and BOF.

>>4904737
technically none of those are actually god though

you do actually fight god in DDS2

ITT butthurt christfags

Grandia on dreamcast is my most regretted purchase. I beat it, but it was fucking boring.

>>4904497
two of those aren't retro.

Why do people still worship (((Jesus)))?

>>4905216

Because he is the way, the truth and the life. Duh?

>>4904749
You fight God himself, the Judeo-Christian God in at least two of those games.
But to a Muslim or a Hindu they don't count, so recognizing godhood is a relative exercise, so get out of here with your bullshit weaselling. A creator god is a creator god is a creator god.

>>4905287

>Muslims don't worship Judeo-Christian God

A-are you trolling right now?

>>4905216
>Then Ezekiel said: “The philosophy of the East taught the first principles of human perception; some nations held one principle for the origin, and some another. We of Israel taught that the Poetic Genius (as you now call it) was the first principle, and all the others merely derivative, which was the cause of our despising the Priests and Philosophers of other countries, and prophesying that all Gods would at last be proved to originate in ours, and to be the tributaries of the Poetic Genius. It was this that our great poet King David desired so fervently, and invokes so pathetically, saying by this he conquers enemies and governs kingdoms; and we so loved our God that we cursed in His name all the deities of surrounding nations, and asserted that they had rebelled. From these opinions the vulgar came to think that all nations would at last be subject to the Jews.
>“This,” said he, “like all firm persuasions, is come to pass, for all nations believe the Jews’ code, and worship the Jews’ God; and what greater subjection can be?”

>>4905296
Some people speak without certainty or education. You're going to encounter this a lot in life.

>>4905296
not that guy, but if I went and said the god of muhammad the same as the god of abraham, I'd be a fucking heretic

>>4905342
He literally is according the the Qoran though. They name him Ibrahim and he's considered a prophet.

>>4905335
Way to cover all bases.

Religion is such a scam.

>>4905287
Yahweh created nothing. He is a demon created by the collective subconscious of mankind. He believes he created, but he did nothing of the sort. He's simply a tyrant.

The boss you fight at the end of DDS2 is literally actually the creator god of the universe and all universes in the SMT cosmology, and in fact it actually literally is the universe, and you are inside of it while fighting it. It lets you win too, to teach you the meaning of life, which is one four letter word.

Horrifyingly, there are real people who cannot guess what that word is.

>>4905380
>one for letter word

Dick?

>>4905342
According to muslims it's the same god who abandoned his chosen people and then decided to create a new prophet who would be even closer to him than the ones before and blah blah blah. There's a whole onion of justifications for how Islam is more holy than Judaism and Christianity and it is of course all bullshit. The religion or whatever was left of it's origins was designed to gather and hold power and provide excuse for aggression while sheltering and making expendable tools out of vulnerable youths with malicious tendencies.

The entire point of it is to justify and make hatred productive, but of course Islam can only steal from others and lie about it's academic achievements and it begets absolutely nothing.

Even right now one group of Muslims will pick an enemy and decree that other Muslims who don't fight the same enemy are heretics, and they can endlessly create civil wars and feed upon their own countrymen, just to consolidate aggression and hatred and feed the guy whose cracking the whip and his unquenchable desire and infinite emptiness and fear inside his soul. Like starving rats they consume each other one after the other.

>>4905380
>one four letter word
Cock?

>>4904497
>>4905205
FF13 shouldn't be counted either. In that game you are fighting against the equivalent of angels. They are essentially wizards.

The plot of the villains is to bring about the summoning of their god to the world of the living. The lore of FF13 is really convoluted.

>>4905380
Life?

>>4905216
well it makes more sense than being a larpagan or an atheist I guess

>>4905194
personally I find hilarious how pop culture is influenced by poor philosophy

>>4905509
nah, nothing is worse than being a slave to subhuman kikes