/vr/ - Retro Games

>>489546
>Playing DOOM, Mega man, and ninja crusaders next to a guy playing skyrim at a LAN
>"Dude anons playing skyrim! Awesome!!!"

;-;

>>489551
Also
I got this question:

"What's even the point of playing DOOM"

>>489546
Video games were a relatively niche thing for children and neckbeards until about the PS2 era. I've invited people over and they all want to play COD or whatever. Now some of these guys were children of the 80s-early 90s, so you think they might have at least heard of the stuff, but when you mention, say, old DOS games they look at you like "The fuck is that? Pass me the Black Ops disc."

>>489565
The point being that cartridge-era games were far from being part of everyone's collective conscience back then. I'd say that Halo pretty much started the whole "sit with your bros, guzzle energy drinks, and play FPSes" thing.

>>489559
What is? Sure, its historical value is indisputable, but game itself is pretty primitive by what later games could offer.

>>489559
>"What's even the point of playing DOOM?"

That's grounds to get stabbed in the face 'round these parts.

>>489604
What? DOOM is still fun as fuck. Punching the shit out of demons feels so good.

>>489546
>I can understand younger kids not getting it

That depends on what games we mean. Obviously Atari stuff is not much fun outside nostalgia.

Sounds like saying "Why do you buy an oldtimer? There are modern cars with better engines for less money and they look better!"

>>489604
>Blasting the shit out of demons any way you want

That shit does not happen now.

>>489559

You can pretty much say the same thing for any game, or anything you do in life. What's the point of doing anything?

To me the answer is that shooting demons stimulates you and makes you feel good. Or completing a level without being touched, or whatever your goal is. In any case, like any game, the point is to have fun. Though I guess you could argue in blops and shit with lan parties or online competitiveness, the goal is to win and be the best there ever was, but even then that's supposed to be "fun".

So I don't know. It is a stupid question and I'm not sure my brain quite comprehends what they mean by it.

>>489632
Cars are a totally mainstream thing anyone can relate to. Vidya not so much.

>>489632
Except a big majority of people like older cars.

>>489641
Already explained above you

>>489639
>Cars are a totally mainstream thing anyone can relate to
Within reason of course, not the shit Jay Leno drives.

>>489639
>>489641


but they are ugly and my BMW 3 is much hceaper and faster!!!!!


see? it boils down to personal taste.

btw this is about playing retro games and not vg in general >>489639

>>489661
I meant old cars vs old video games

>the meathead jocks who used to make fun of you and your friends for playing video games are now the target demographic of AAA game publishers

I'm convinced that God is real and he's basically just trying to fuck with me.

Just remember this: we're the torchbearers that keep the memory and legacy of vidya alive. If even a fraction of us can pass that torch to our children / young relatives and give them the itch and the passion for retro games, the legacy will never die.

NEVAR FERGET!

>>489680
so it goes

>>489671


but that isnt a reason why I should not enjoy old videogames.

but speaking from a rational pov there is still no use in liking or driving an oldtimer. and its teh same with retro games.

>>489680

This doesn't even make me mad, it just makes me laugh. Seeing the hypocrisy of said people just tickles me in a way I can't explain. They are such tools and have no individuality. I'd rather be a friendless loser who can't socialize then a sellout dime-a-dozen individual with no real defining traits or ideas.

Not even mad, just tickled.

>>489680
That's not a new thing at all; jocks have been a target market for vidya since the Genesis

>>489704
Stop comparing utilitarian things with entertainment.

Ever play those games or watch those movies where it's the end of an era? There's that distinctly melancholy feel to it? The industry has felt like that for awhile.

Look on the bright side, maybe the low quality of this current gaming generation will cause some young people to hunger for something different. A new generation of developers who try to break the mold.

>>489737
We can only hope. It's our only hope.

>tfw ten years from now there will literally be adults talking to each other about "Man, Skyrim was an awesome game, wasn't it? They just don't make them like that anymore."

>if this board still exists in that time that will be the discussion

I actually remember being suprised one time. There's this guy I know, typical beer swilling dude. Plays Madden. Used to be a huge bully back in his younger days.

We got to talking one time and I was shocked to learn that his favorite game of all time was Ocarina of Time. Yeah, very basic opinion but it was a nice surprise.

>>489802

He probably knows you're a nerd for old games and thought of something you would probably like that he knew about.

>>489810
We discussed about the game in some detail, he definitely played it.

>>489789
Such is life. Quality is relative and what shaped your tastes will always be standard. And all the rest will be judged by how well it resemble standard.

I don't see any reason to feel bad.

>>489612
That was Perfect Dark for my group.

>>489636
There is this game called Painkiller. I got a lot of the same fun out of it I had with Doom. Being a modern FPS the levels are more linear, but other than that it feels a lot more like Doom than Doom3 did.

>>489841
Of course when you were like 6 years old then yeah. Not like grown manchildren as you see now.

>>489789
>>tfw ten years from now there will literally be adults talking to each other about "Man, Skyrim was an awesome game, wasn't it? They just don't make them like that anymore."

who gives a shit? people who grew up on the atari probably saw games like ocarina of time and goldeneye as 'newfangled shit' much like how most of /vr/ views skyrim. it's the circle of life.

also, fighting games were the FPS of the 90s.

>>489876

Except Skyrim actually is shit. At least in comparison to some of its predecessors. Even people who didn't grow up on the Atari know that Pitfall was a great platformer.

And no fighting games weren't the FPS of the 90's, that would be mostly RTS games. Go ahead and look at how many RTS games were made in the 90's.

>>489612
>I'd say that Halo pretty much started the whole "sit with your bros, guzzle energy drinks, and play FPSes" thing.

Close. It was Goldeneye.

>>489887
>implying Skyrim is shit

>Being friends with casuals

>>489551
If people are getting physically excited that anybody is playing any game but ultra rare CiB games for consoles most people never knew existed at a LAN party clearly your friends are idiots.

Yup my best friend is exactly a day older than me and he fucking rages and gets confused at retro games. We were playing sonic II and he just raged.

ALSO: Do you guys ever find that your friends who didn't play retro games are SHIT at them now ?

>>489896

Compared to its predecessors and lack of content and options it is.

>>489612

>I'd say that Halo pretty much started the whole "sit with your bros, guzzle energy drinks, and play FPSes" thing.

No

Just

No

You're on /vr/ - Retro Games and you've never heard of/played doom before? What the FUCK is going on here

>>489929
Me and my buddy do turn based retro challenges alternating on lives and stage completes. In truth I only suggested it because games all feel too easy now and I figured the dead weight would add to the challenge. The guy couldn't beat Pink Plant Woods in Rayman.

>>489929

I feel that way at some of these games despite the fact i played them before in the past. Fuck i was playing Lylat Wars aka Starfox 64 the other day and i was thinking to myself "man i used to get a much better score on Corneria before."

>>489951
You clearly didn't read his comment. Doom isn't a brogamer game like Halo.

>>489612
Did you even play Quake nigger?

>>489943
Skyrim actually improved on the horrid leveling system of the older games. Morrowind/Oblivion's having to micromanage skills to get half usable attribute modifiers so you don't end up becoming weaker as the game goes on is a severe pain, which Skyrim fixes entirely. We're getting off topic though.

>>489961

>You clearly didn't read his comment. Doom isn't a brogamer game like Halo.

No one said or implied it was a "brogamer" anything. He said "sit with your bros, guzzle energy drinks, and play FPSes" thing."

What are LAN parties? Doom back in the day had the most LAN parties out of any game in history. Are you this young, did you not go anywhere, or watch or read anything related to video games back in those days?

>>489896
Well.... In my opinion, it's shit. Sure, there's a lot of content, but the world just feels empty, the combat and spells are god awful, quests are boring, main quest sucks, dialogue sucks, visuals are bland, and worst of all, it's just not fun. The music and lore are nice though.

>>489951

Maybe if you were rich enough to have a PC back in the day to have a LAN and play Doom. It wasn't really until N64 era where it was just 4 dudes sitting around yelling at each other playing Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64.

>>489992
Super niche activity. Very few people did LAN parties in the early nineties. Every brogamer in university played Halo while drinking with his bros.

>>490012

>Maybe if you were rich enough to have a PC back in the day to have a LAN and play Doom

Please don't start with this strawman argument. This is something someone on /v/ would do. Just please don't

>>490027

>Super niche activity. Very few people did LAN parties in the early nineties.

I.........uhh......are you serious? Are you fucking serious right now? Tell me I'm being trolled

>>490037
You and your nerd buddies aren't the general public.

>>490037
God I hope so.

>>489604
Give me an FPS I'm going to have more fun with.

I'll wait.

>>489993

It eliminated any statistical distribution so you don't really customize much and you have only two attacks. Normal and Power. Previous games you had several attacks with varying animations. You had a much bigger world to explore and more to interact with previous games sans Morrowind.

>>490046

>You and your nerd buddies aren't the general public.

Welp, I'm out of the thread. Have fun /vr/

>>490029

How is that even a strawman? PC's were expensive back then and not everyone had one.

>>489789
The lawyers I associate with talked about Skyrim constantly at work and outside of it.

>>490050
Not saying everything it did was good, mind you. But it did eliminate my major qualm with the series. Also I'd argue that the perk system provides more customization than the old stats did (as the customization there was mostly annoying, unnatural micromanagement.)

As for the combat I don't remember hating it, but I haven't played Skyrim since my dad's PS3 died and there was no way to transfer the save data, so eh, not going to weigh in there. I don't remember Oblivion or Morrowind's combat being particularly inspired without mods, either.

>>489876
>people who grew up on the atari probably saw games like ocarina of time and goldeneye as 'newfangled shit' much like how most of /vr/ views skyrim. it's the circle of stupid people

FTFY. If you admit that you're anything like those Atari guys, you should probably consider suicide or at best never use 4chan again.

>>489887
>Even people who didn't grow up on the Atari know that Pitfall was a great platformer

And even people who did grow up on the Atari know that those games are mostly a joke compared to everything after 1985

I went to my local game shop a few days ago to pick up a power supply for my PSOne. There was a little know it all kid that must of been 8 - 12 years old. Seemed like he knew a lot about vidya somewhat. He kept trying to tell me you could use any of the Playstation power cables for all systems. I don't think we ever saw a PSOne before, or knew that the model had a power supply.

It was semi annoying and cute at the same time. Gives me hope.

>>490417
>Gives me hope
Of what exactly?

>>490427

That "retro" games wont go out of style. Some people will always have a interest to play ALL games. No matter the age. A good game, will always good a good game.

>>490439
>That "retro" games wont go out of style

who said they would? I mean heck, most of the people on /vr/ weren't around for anything older than the 5th gen and yet here we are.

>>490454

Really? I figured most people on this board would be older. I'm 27 myself.

>>490461
Everyone always projects themselves onto the other posters. One of the iron rules of the Interwebz.

>>490054
The argument you're making with him makes no sense. DOOM wasn't mainstream way back when. If you deny this, you're just being difficult.

One of the blessings of being a poorfag I guess. By the time I was aware of the world, the N64 was going strong (born 91), but my first console was the motherfucking Genesis and I still fucking play it to this day.

>>490465

From what I understand though.. MOST people who are on this board are above 20. I wish there was some way to figure it out.

>>490461
>figured most people on this board would be older

/vr/ _is_ a bit older than average but only because the majority of 4chan is in HS. /v/ is probably like all 15 yos while here it's more around 20-21. And of course some of them will inflate their age to 30 or whatever to sound old and wizened.

It's fascinating how the quality of the board has suddenly dropped to /v/ level in just the last few days.

Was there like an /v/ migration event or something? Go away retards, we wanna discuss video games. Thread hidden.

>>490471
Same story with me, basically. I didn't have a modern console until PS2 and even then I was a few years late. That gave me a chance to enjoy NES and Genesis and I think I'm much better off for it.

>>490474
>DOOM wasn't mainstream way back when

Of course not. Computer games are a neckbeard thing today, much more so in 1993.

>>490037
>>490043
Obvious samefag.

>>490490
So you're agreeing with me.

What's that other guy's problem then? He seems to think that everyone and their mother played DOOM at lan parties, instead of a niche group.

>>490476

Speak for yourself i'm old as shit by internet 4chan standards at 28 going 29 this year and i know for a fact there are dudes older than me for sure on this board and on /v/. Mind you the oldest dude I ever knew from /v/ was an 80 year old widow who streamed himself playing System Shock.

>>490516
>and i know for a fact there are dudes older than me for sure on this board and on /v/
It's a bloody anonymous website. You can't prove or disprove anything like that.
>Mind you the oldest dude I ever knew from /v/ was an 80 year old widow who streamed himself playing System Shock
>implying that was really an 80 yo man and not a bad troll you fell for

That said, we almost did get a guy that old on here. An actor who played a spaceship captain in some old TV show or something like that. Did a Q&A on Redshit and some people tried to talk him into visiting 4chan but he wouldn't do it.

>>490542
Dammit, why do celebrities and even the president of the United States visit that site but they won't come here?

>>490572

Celebrities do visit 4chan surprisingly in sporadic moments

>>490572
They do, they're just to chicken-shit to admit it.

why would they be surprised, most of them just say something like "Oh man I haven't played this in a long time! This brings back memories" or something like that.

>>490572
I don't know what famous people we could get on here except maybe David Duke or something.

>>490461

I think the average on /v/ is like 19-22, and the average on /vr/ is 24-26.

I'm 32, I'm sure there are older.

>>490542

>It's a bloody anonymous website. You can't prove or disprove anything like that.

While that's true you can sometimes deduce general age of some people by how they reply and type. For instance i'm going to probably guess that you're Australian.

>>490603
>I think the average on /v/ is like 19-22

Way too high. I'd be surprised if anyone older than 18 is on there.

>and the average on /vr/ is 24-26

Debatable. There can't be too many people in their 30s because they comprise less than 10% of the total userbase.

>>490603
32 here also. I think there's quite a few people on /vr/ that are old enough to have actually played this stuff when it was new.

>>490613
>While that's true you can sometimes deduce general age of some people by how they reply and type
I don't think that's a very reliable indicator of anything except that teenage shitposters have worse grammar and spelling.
>For instance i'm going to probably guess that you're Australian
Or maybe I'm not and I just said "bloody" to be cheeky.

See there, I systematically disproved your entire theory.

>>490615
>There can't be too many people in their 30s because they comprise less than 10% of the total userbase

Every single poster on /vr/ could be in their 30's and it would still account for well less than 10% of the 4chan user base.

>>490615

Why so? Some people who grew up during the 90's gaming decade would be close to 30's by now.

Weird kids become weird adults.

Normie kids become Normal adults.

Protip: there is no such thing as manchildren, only weird INFERIOR men.

>>490619
>32 here also

Of course you are since you and >>490603 are the same guy. Heck, for all anyone knows you're a /v/tard pulling my leg.

>I think there's quite a few people on /vr/ that are old enough to have actually played this stuff when it was new

Depends. I'm pretty sure a good number of people here played 5th gen stuff when it was new. Older stuff...nah except maybe like 2 guys.

So to the 30 year olds in this thread. Do you ever play a game and feel like your reaction times are just not as good as they were a few years ago? I'm not even 30 but i'm starting to feel it.

>>490619
>I think there's quite a few people on /vr/ that are old enough to have actually played this stuff when it was new.
There are. I'm 24, I grew up with the SNES. I'd figure most posters here are at least about that old, the place seems to be made up of people who were playing retro games when they were the newest thing on the market.

>>490594
>most of them just say something like "Oh man I haven't played this in a long time! This brings back memories" or something like that
I always get kind of pissed off at that. Like on a Youtube video of an old game it's like 50 posts "HURR THIS WAS MY CHILDHOOD". I'm interested in talking about the game itself or the history behind it. What do I care if you had your first gay experience playing MK64 at a sleepover?

>>490635
>Of course you are since you and >>490603 # are the same guy

No, no we aren't. There's a way to check for that, you know.

>>489789
Well skyrim is not that bad...
dem glitches

>>490647
Not that stupid /b/ "How to Expose Samefags" comic again

>>490637
Look, we can argue about this forever and never get anywhere. I maintain most of the board is 20-23 and you maintain it's not. There's no way to prove either of our arguments, so you pretty much have to accept it like a religion.

>>490615

welp, you're wrong there, since I'll still post on /v/, I like new games too.

>>490619

I'd think so too, a lot of kids can't appreciate the 8 and 16 bit 2D games because they grew up on N64 generation and beyond.. I consider Playstation and N64 being "retro" to be silly. 3D N64 games play exactly like modern games, just have more polygons and better textures in newer games. True Retro games played a different way. Mega Man 9 is more Retro than Majora's Mask.

>>490635

No, there's probably 2 different 32 year olds. Not that we could really prove it, not that we really care to prove it. But there's probably older. A lot of people like 4chan because anonymity allows WHAT you say to be judged on its own rather than basing it on WHO said it. There's no ego here, there's no likes, or karma, or le upboats or any other stupid shit. I got started here when I was 25.

>>489680
>letting jocks make fun of you.

Getaloadofthisguy.png

>>490646

Well, a lot of people played the games but not a lot actively play them recently, and would remember anything significant about them. They just remember that it was fun and they enjoyed it. I see no problem with that. I'm saying they wouldn't be surprised to see someone replaying an old classic, they just haven't themselves.

>>490664
>I'd think so too, a lot of kids can't appreciate the 8 and 16 bit 2D games because they grew up on N64 generation and beyond

This is a fallacious statement since 3rd/4th gen games are still perfectly playable. If you were talking Atari stuff, then we could have an argument.

>I consider Playstation and N64 being "retro" to be silly

Probably not, but I didn't make the rules on here.

>3D N64 games play exactly like modern games, just have more polygons and better textures in newer games

Then again, GBA is completely 2D and that sure ain't retro

If it looks better on a CRT TV/Monitor when playing then it's retro!

>>490636
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAYUjBgbdro

>>490690
But then that would even include Wii games

>>490657

Nobody mentioned /b/, 'samefag', or 'comic' other than you. There's a function within 4chan that allows you to check if two posts came from the same user, though that's not its intended use. I honestly don't see how anyone who has been a user of this site for any decent length of time hasn't figured it out on their own.

>>490646
>What do I care if you had your first gay experience playing MK64 at a sleepover?

It's like my mom said. People today are total narcissists who think the rest of the world cares about their shitty insignificant life. Yakking on cell phones loudly in public, posting FB statuses about what they had for breakfast, etc.

>>490696

Close enough! Most of the best Wii games are arcade style games anyway like Ghost Squad and a few other rail shootans.

>>490705
>>490657

>listening to Opie and Anthony
>graphics are all that ever get mentioned, CoD often brought up
>Anthony says one day "I don't get how you can go back to those games" in response to a guy mentioning he still has his nintendo

I get so angry whenever they bring up games. Patrice O'Neal I loved because he too hated the multiplayer trend and lamented the loss of fun cheat codes

>>490715

RIP Patrice O'Neal

>>490714
That's a good way to get b&'d for script injection, son.

>>490636
>So to the 30 year olds in this thread. Do you ever play a game and feel like your reaction times are just not as good as they were a few years ago?
We had a thread about that on /vr/'s second or third day. It became a shitty /v/-level flame war so let's never do it again.

>>490729
Right...that's how I knew >>490647 was full of shit

>>490692
It's incredible how people can get good at a game if that's all they play.
I have a friend who had only doctor mario back in the day, she's unbeatable at it.
Imagine if grandma started playing ninja gaiden: that would have been awesome!

I do feel it though, my videogame-fu is weakening, too. Wtf is going on?!?

>>490736
>I do feel it though, my videogame-fu is weakening

You grew up and realized gaming is for children

>>490730

I don't remember it. I need to know what to expect when i cross over. I'm bracing for impact man.

>>490736

You're clearly not playing enough vidya.

>>490746
That's probably the case...
I would love to have more time for video games.
I used to play all the time when I was in school,
it's hard now having a job and a family...

>>489565
>Video games were a relatively niche thing for children and neckbeards until about the PS2 era

Bullshit. Atari was mainstream.

>>489789
It definitely won't be. You might hear people talking about how much it entertained them, like how people still talk about how fun Die Hard is, but nobody's going to call it a Citizen Kane or anything.

>>490742
To sum it up:

>30 yo McDonalds-eating fatass (see pic) whines that his fat fingers can't keep up with kids in online Quake
>gets told Maybe you should take better care of yourself and put down the Big Macs so you don't have the body of a 70 yo at 30
>he gets butthurt
>long extremely stupid flamewar involving armchair doctors who live in Mom's basement arguing about human neurology
>of course nobody has any clue what they're talking about

To make a long story short, that thread was horrible and I never want to see it again.

>>490757
Ah but it was still a kiddie toy not mainstream entertainment like today

>>490773
>Ah but it was still a kiddie toy not mainstream entertainment like today

Total bullshit. Atari appealed to all ages. There was nothing set in stone that games were for kids. Pong, Pacman, Pitfall, etc were enjoyed by people of all ages and genders.

It was Nintendo that revolutionized the industry with its massive focus on children.

>>490753

See what you do is you slip in small bits of vidya here and there in between downtime like waiting for someone or something like a train to arrive. Invest in a portable vidya system like a PSP or DS.

>>490753
>it's hard now having a job
Can't afford much vidya as a Wal-Mart cashier, amirite?
>and a family
You don't have a family, do you?

>people on 4chan
>sex
>reproduction
>human contact

>>490734

>can't figure out something as simple as how a website he hangs out on works
>calls someone else 'full of shit'

Yo kiddo, there's literally a button for it. Just because there isn't a forced tutorial explaining it and a trophy awarded for finding it doesn't mean it's not there.

>>490736
I felt this recently when I came back to Dark Souls after not playing it for a year. It's really just a matter of getting over that hump, and then it'll all come back to you. Same with Super Metroid, now that I think about it, except I'm just as bad at navigating maps as I ever was.

>>490789
>Yo kiddo
>calling someone "kid" or "kiddo"
Truly the lowest form of debate

>implying there's a magic "Expose Samefags" button
Unless you're Moot and you can see everyone's IP addresses, no.

>>490768

Oh wait that thread. Yeah i remember that thread now.

I'm not asking about competing with younger people or anything but more like not being able to 1cc certain arcade games that you knew you could do flawlessly before for example. Because i'm feeling that way with D&D Shadows over Mystara at times but maybe it's because i'm continually always using a different 'controller' every time I seem to get time to play it (pad/keyboard/arcade stick.)

Also definitely used to be able to 1cc Raiden 2 without losing a life but now not always.

>>490736
>It's incredible how people can get good at a game if that's all they play

I hate to play armchair doctor like this guy >>490768 said, but the way the brain stores information is via nerve impulses that weaken with non-use. Therefore you quickly forget information not recalled on a regular basis. That 99 yo Japanese woman essentially plays Bomberman like an automatic reflex and she can probably do it without even thinking.

Also strong or vivid memories are retained much easier than mundane ones. So you can remember finding a chicken brain in your school lunch, but if someone asked you what else happened that day, you won't know squat.

>>490715
Some of the stuff they say about the Wii is just plain wrong, too. Of course, they have shit taste in games and like a convenient excuse to say NINTENDO IS FOR BABIES LOL.

>>490806
>Oh wait that thread. Yeah i remember that thread now
And now you know why that thread shouldn't be revived like an improperly staked vampire.

>Also definitely used to be able to 1cc Raiden 2 without losing a life but now not always

I'm not in your head so fuck do I know.

>>490807

I hope that one day when I die that my hands continue playing vidya and giving a big 'fuck you' to the riger mortis claiming my body and they gain sentience of their own and end up starring in a series of movies with misadventures with some macabre family.

>>489559
It was like the Half-Life of it's time: first-person shooter set in a facility place thing gone wrong and stuff

>>490797
>Truly the lowest form of debate
Perfectly acceptable when the recipient is ignorant of a subject yet acts like they aren't, considering that's a childish trait.

>Unless you're Moot and you can see everyone's IP addresses, no
Yeah, because the site itself doesn't use it for other things, such as the id's on /b/, or a particular user-accessible function where the site might make note of another user based on their IP. Do I really have to spell it out for you and then make a chime noise and toss you a platinum trophy?

>>490807
I can remember every detail of the 18th of June, 2000 and 7, but if you asked me something like March 1 of that year, I'd draw a total blank.

>>490837
>or a particular user-accessible function where the site might make note of another user based on their IP

We already covered this shit in >>490714

>>490542
but what about the people i know irl who are on here? pretty sure i know how old they are...

>>490852
>but what about the people i know irl who are on here?

Your kid brother who posts on /v/

This isn't as shitty as that thread mentioned in >>490768, but it's close to it.

OP should just delete it before it gets worse.

I don't care if y'all are 30 or 50 or 70. Post however much you like, but if you pretend you're a normalfag on this shithole, you're going to get laughed at and called on the carpet. We're a proud band of rogues, pedos, neckbeards, freaks, and sociopaths here.

>>489546
Should ask them if you can have their old video games

>>490787
ehhh go back to /b/, ya rude-ass fuck

>>490837
i... i've never earned a platinum trophy... *cries*

>>490860
sorry, my kid brother is in jail. try again...

>>490787
>Can't afford much vidya as a Wal-Mart cashier, amirite?
I'm actually a graphic designer and I do have a retro game collection (200+ titles and 20 systems).
Don't have much time to play, though, since I also work on saturdays.

>You don't have a family, do you?
If you mean kids, no, I don't. But I still have to help my wife with housekeeping and stuff like that.

I know it's hard to understand for someone who's problably still living in his mom's basement.

>>490865
we're gettin there lol

>>490027
>>490046
>>490474
>DOOM
>super niche
>you and a bunch of your buddies
Oh, child.

>In a press release dated January 1, 1993, id Software had written that they expected Doom to be "the number one cause of decreased productivity in businesses around the world."[12] This prediction came true at least in part: Doom became a major problem at workplaces, both occupying the time of employees and clogging computer networks with traffic caused by deathmatches. Intel, Lotus Development and Carnegie Mellon University are among many organizations reported to form policies specifically disallowing Doom-playing during work hours. At the Microsoft campus, Doom was by one account equal to a "religious phenomenon".[5]
>In late 1995, Doom was estimated to be installed on more computers worldwide than Microsoft's new operating system Windows 95, despite million-dollar advertising campaigns for the latter.

>>489546
Way too much shit flinging going on in here
Sage for off topic

>>490682

I'd say Retro is 2D, sprite based games, and modern is 3D polygon based games. Playstyle matters more than what year it was released imo.

>hey bro let's play warcraft 3
>"nah I never liked it"
>ok.
>hey bro I see you like oblivion and skyrim
>you should try morrowind
>"dude the graphics suck"
>ok..
>hey bro how about some street fighter 2 turbo
>"this shit is like ancient and unplayable"
>ok...
>dude remember like 8 years ago we were playing dem resident evil games together and how creepy they are
>"OMG the graphics hurt play RE5 instead"

mfw

and he is my age too good thing we are no friends anymore.

>befriending casual plebeians

why is it that so many people on /v/ are friends with normalfag douches they don't even like and then post passive aggressive horror greentext stories about those fucks on /v/.

just let them go and befriend decent neckbeards who know what you talk about or playing. they exist. some are ye olde nerds and even have a social life and gfs.

I play a fuckton of vidya and still I need to find time to finish education and what not. it's weird being a borderline outcast while playing vidya alone at home and being a social creature at work or uni and having to hide your powerlevel. but that's how it goes.

>>490916
>I'm actually a graphic designer
Translation: I draw Sonic Rule 34 pics
>If you mean kids, no, I don't. But I still have to help my wife with housekeeping and stuff like that
Does Konata count as a wife?

>I know it's hard to understand for someone who's probably still living in his mom's basement

Dat Freudian slip!

>>490664
>Mega Man 9 is more Retro than Majora's Mask.
Strictly speaking MM isn't retro at all, it's merely a somewhat old game (nobody ever talks about "retro movies" or "retro books"). MM9, as far as I know, is an actual retro game.

I gotta tell you, from what I've seen of 30 yo dudes on here, I'm not impressed. They're as bad or worse for maturity and whinyness than /v/eenagers. Like for instance, OP.

>>490960

well yeah, /vr/ is a bit of a misnomer. It should be /vc/ vidya classic. Classic would be more based on age of the game than style. Retro is a style.

or maybe /vv/ for vintage.

>>490957
Hahaha, whatever anon.
Believe what you want, it's the internet.

>>490968
retro is also based on age. it really doesn't matter. and if we talk about GBA remakes of old shit or the new old Zelda rehash I think it's fine too to talk about it.

30 years onward /vr/ needs to put some years behind 1999 anyway. there is no way in hell we will keep having 1999 as limit for retro vidya because soon newer stuff will be old retro vidya.

>>490957
What is this, /v/?

>>490960
>nobody ever talks about "retro movies" or "retro books"
Books and movies from all ages are constantly re-released, they're kept fresh.
Not really the same thing with old videogames.
Except maybe virtual console releases.

>>490965
Good point. We have daily whinefest threads how bad modern vidya is. How beta can you get?

>>490986
/v/, /vr/, /vg/, same userbase

>>490990
>Books and movies from all ages are constantly re-released, they're kept fresh

They still age pretty damn bad. Try and watch a comedy show from the 50s and see how funny Adlai Stevenson jokes are in 2013.

>>490636

Not really, I actually feel as if I do better at games than i did as a kid. I seemed to remember Mega Man and Ninja Gaiden games to be hard, and Zelda 2 as well, beating Mega Man 3 as a kid was like the hardest game I actually beat as a kid. Now I picked it up after a decade and a half having not played it and blew through it in an afternoon. Ninja Gaiden? I couldn't get hardly anywhere in that game as a kid, beat it as an adult. Same with the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Zelda 2.

fuck it, i'm out. back to dragon's dogma

>>490994
>How beta can you get?

christ, I'm so fucking sick of /v/ acting like they are manly mc manturd who think they even lift.

there are profound reasons for what you adressed blindly as a non-issue. a lot of AAA titles are shit for many reasons. sure, there are some things still worth buying but not that many.

>>491016
>a lot of AAA titles are shit for many reasons
>sure, there are some things still worth buying but not that many
Your nostalgia goggles kicked in

>>491020

>Using the nostalgia goggles fallacy on a board for retro games

Yeah i'm going to have to ask you to leave. Also the nostalgia goggles argument is a misnomer. Nobody would be nostalgic for a game if it was shit.

>>491020
sure, must be googles. go fuck yourself.

>>491009
>Not really, I actually feel as if I do better at games than i did as a kid.

believe it or not, it's because you simply have more common sense. you conserve items, you approach situations tactically and strategically. i used to think the mega man series was hard as hell when i was 12, but i can get through most of them without a scratch these days simply because i'm smarter.

>>491026
>Nobody would be nostalgic for a game if it was shit.

actually that's not true at all, hence why we sometimes have 'nostalgia destroyer' threads, for games that were amazing when we were kids but haven't aged gracefully or were probably never good to begin with.

i have good memories of playing 'bart vs. the space mutants' and 'hook' on the NES, but i'll admit right now that both of those games are fucking awful

>>491026
>Nobody would be nostalgic for a game if it was shit

People are nostalgic for a lot of shitty things

>>491039

Actually it is true because bart vs the space mutants while you remember it isn't a widely loved or highly regarded game. If you were to say something else like Double Dragon however that's a different story.

Quite some amount if retards in this thread I see.

so according to some here everyone on /vr/ is either 15-20 higschooler who lives in his mom's basement, is fat, retarded and draws Sonic fan pics.

OR is of course the total alpha male, bangs chicks every night and drives his Porsche Turbo around the block in his hood. And enjoys showing the "nerds" and "whiney loosers" their place in society.

>>490983

Retro is not necessarily an age though, a retro styled means that it resembles something from an older age, not necessarily being an older age itself.

Let's look at some examples to explain what I mean.

Mega Man 2 is a vintage game, because of it's age, a classic game, because of its reception and appeal, but it's not really retro.

Mega Man 9 is NOT a vintage game, because it's fairly recent, it's NOT a classic, because it didn't have the widespread appeal that Mega Man 2 had, however it IS a Retro game, because it was designed to play just like Mega Man 2.

Legend of Zelda is a vintage game because of its age, it's a classic because of it's reception and broad appeal and continued reverence, but it's not a retro game unless we're talking GBA re-release (in which case the GBA re-release IS a retro game)

Ocarina of Time is not quite old enough to be vintage (8 bit only for vintage? I don't know, not exact, maybe 16 bit counts too), it IS a Classic because it's a little bit older and it's universally praised and regarded as one of the best games ever created, but it's not Retro, as it follows the modern style of current games.

Now Metroid Prime, Prime 2: Echoes, and Prime 3: Corruption, those are all Retro games, despite not being classic (yet) or vintage.

>>491046
>so according to some here everyone on /vr/ is either 15-20 higschooler who lives in his mom's basement, is fat, retarded and draws Sonic fan pics

Well come on, it is 4chan. And actually most of the fat basement dwelling furries are over 25, not HS kids.

>OR is of course the total alpha male, bangs chicks every night and drives his Porsche Turbo around the block in his hood. And enjoys showing the "nerds" and "whiney loosers" their place in society

You mean this schmendrick >>490916

>>491040

That's what people with shit taste tell themselves.

>>491046
>so according to some here everyone on /vr/ is either 15-20 higschooler who lives in his mom's basement, is fat, retarded and draws Sonic fan pics
I'm more of a Simpsons fan artist myself.

>>491048
>Now Metroid Prime, Prime 2: Echoes, and Prime 3: Corruption, those are all Retro games

Oh you fucking dick

>>489559
Try playing huge co-op maps
The amount of enemies on screen is only possible in a very efficient game like Doom, any other game would lag like hell
Shit is fucking awesome

>>491037

well a lot of it is also muscle memory and reflexes and fine motor control as well. See I've played video games for 26 years now, a lot of different genres, a lot of practice.

In Mega Man 3's case.. it was the second Mega Man game I ever played (first was 2, I didn't bother going back to play the original till emulators much later, I never saw the original available to rent). So I'd rent it, play it for a weekend, get as far as I could, have my password, and rent it again the next weekend, so I'm playing it once a weekend for a few weekends is all the practice I get, because then? I was ONLY allowed to play Nintendo on the weekends, and only if my parents weren't watching the TV, and I had to share with my sister.

But by SNES days? I was mowing lawns, I bought my own cheap TV and SNES and bought games rather than renting them. So I could play more often, as long as homework was done. So I played Mega Man 4, 5, 6, X, X2, X3, etc.. so now I have the "feel" of a Mega Man game memorized in my hands. Now I can pick up and play any of them and make jumps more consistently.

I don't think aging has dulled me yet. Maybe in another 20 years, but remember, surgeons are still operating with their hands when they're in their 50's and 60's, I think I'll be fine playing video games.

>>491093
>See I've played video games for 26 years now
Since you were an infant I take it

kornheiserimpressed.jpg

>Maybe in another 20 years, but remember, surgeons are still operating with their hands when they're in their 50's and 60's

And of course you're not going to live longer than 60 anyway. God knows I won't.

>implying smart people don't put a shotgun in their mouth on their 60th birthday

>>491075

I had to, it was just laying out there to be said.

>>490027

This comment show that either this person wasn't alive in the 90's, or the general gaming culture in some part of the world was very VERY different from Scandinavia.

Not only were LAN parties a pretty much monthly thing, the spaces were provided by our high school. That, or we rented a cabin. Furthermore there were multiple large LAN events where people from all over the country would gather, some of them still running (Assembly comes to mind).

>>491110

I'm 32. I got an NES when I was 6.

>>490465
Didn't the poll place people here at just past 24?

>>489695
The problem will be when the Xbox 1 and the 360 became retro.

>>489943
>SKYRIM IS SHIT CUZ IS NOT MUH MORROWIND

Morrowind had shit combat.

/thread

>>492103
So does Skyrim.

>>490715
Patrice was truly the broest of comedians. All the fat funny guys die too soon.

>>489680
>yfw the game industry can be analagous to dumb girls choosing unloyal jocks over you.

Why do publishers want an audience that isn't loyal? These are the same people that would drop gaming the moment they find something better.

>>492103
>>492113
Can't we just agree that TES in general has pretty lackluster combat?

>>489604
actually i can see someone using this as a legitimate argument. the only thing is, no other game i'm aware of even comes close to the feel of RIP AND TEAR. even carmack couldn't recreate that feeling with Doom 3. I but Doom 4 is going to suck dick as well. Doom and quake set gameplay benchmarks that very few games have even reached. it both makes me sad and happy to see .wads that are even more DOOM than DOOM itself.

>>492159
>I but Doom 4 is going to suck dick as well.
They're restarting from scratch because DOOM 4 was well...how you say..."Call of DOOM."
So the rumor says.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/123065-Rumor-Doom-4-Development-On-Shaky-Ground

>>492170
i read that too, but im worried that it's just going to turn out to be RAGE 2: DOOM 3 WITH BETTER GRAFICS

>>489708

That's pretty much how I see it. You're alright, anon.

>>489546
>friends high as fuck, going to midnight releases of CoD and shit
>me like "nah, gonna stay home and play some Saturn"
>whatthefuckman.jpg

>>490615
Yeah, 27 here too.

>>490056

I remember the first time I tried to play doom on my mom's 3000 dollar compaq computer and it ran like fucking shit

nothing but stuttering 10 FPS bullcrap and lag out the ass, and the only way to remedy it was to go out a buy like a 150 stick of RAM and shove that shit in there to get it to run decently

Didn't even have fully midi capability either, I was running that shit of off the PC speaker, sounded like I was playing space invaders: FPS edition

>>493597

>150 stick

Meant to say "150 dollar stick of RAM"

>>489708
keep having it that way. I know it's better.

This thread made me make this; http://louisville.craigslist.org/grp/3753934603.html

>>493785
Weak.

>>493785
>trying to find someone in Louisville area

You'd be just better off moving somewhere else.

>>489680
lol look at loser anon and his vidya

>>490615
>>490619
>>490635
I just wanted to say I'm possibly the oldest guy here. I'm 35. I haven't been on /v/ in maybe six or seven years. I came to /vg/ for Dragon's Dogma general, and then /vr/ happened and I'm pretty pleased to see actual game discussion -- even if I only get a couple hours a week to play anymore.

>>489546
People of all ages are stupid.
Why would it be different now?
Fuck, did you know people used to think Golden Eye was a good game when it came out? Shit, they've never played FPS games before. Most people are like that. The only time retards think it's okay is when it's a game they get all nostalgic in the pants about, then it's exception, because they loved it.

>>493809
>No car
>Moved with parents
>Cannot move because of issues I have

>>493856
Ganbare, Lousiville bro.

>will ditch Madisonville within a year, if I can.

It's the same thing with movies.
The young don't watch movies from 20 years ago.
People watched Django unchained but didn't watch Franco nero's Django.

>>490627
>See there, I systematically disproved your entire theory.
Aside from the fact that "cheeky" is not at all a commonly used term in American English...

>>490603
>>490619
Also 32 here, and there have been enough "how old are you/what year were you born in and what is the first game you remember playing" threads that have shown that we aren't the oldest here. There are some people on /vr/ nearing forty.

Unless you think they're lying but why the fuck would anyone lie about being older than what is "acceptable" on 4chan?

>>493839
>I just wanted to say I'm possibly the oldest guy here. I'm 35

How's wizardry going for you?

>>493865
>The young don't watch movies from 20 years ago
I'm pretty sure everyone has seen Wizard of Oz at least once and that movie is HOLYCRAP4$$u$u$^^%^^%#(#(#((#OLD

>>493873
>Unless you think they're lying but why the fuck would anyone lie about being older than what is "acceptable" on 4chan?

It's part of the board culture to appear old and wizened. Of course there's one or two 30 yos who samefag those threads to inflate their numbers.

>>493864
Am near j-town.

>>493876
He might not be a wizard.

It's particularly weird for me, because I'm 21 but I grew up with an NES, Genesis and Saturn in addition to an N64.

Earlier in class, a friend of mine asked me about the Saturn and what it had to offer. I probably went way too in depth for such an innocent question, but it just goes to show how there's a generation gap even between people of the same age group when it comes to games. This guy is the same age as me, yet all he ever knew growing up was N64 and the odd PS1 JRPG.

What someone said earlier in this thread is more or less correct: most people weren't really playing videogames until the PS2. Yes, people bought earlier consoles, but they usually only had a handful of games, and often times lost interest in them before they finished them.

Like it or not, advertising has always had a very powerful effect in this industry. What we're seeing these days is, if you ask me, is the successor to the early 80's mentality of games becoming "the next Hollywood", except now the games being marketed to the masses are essentially trying to be movies. It's a bubble, it will most certainly pop (as did the Wii and Guitar Hero before it), and it will, ultimately, be remembered as an insignificant speed bump in the history of videogames.

>>489680
Same thing with computers in general. 10 years ago I used to get laughed at as the loser computer geek, now everyone is hooked on facebook.

They will sooner/later wonder how the game got started and play the older games.

>>493890
If he's 35 and on 4chan, then yeah he's a wizard

>>493894
>I'm pretty sure everyone has seen Wizard of Oz at least once and that movie is HOLYCRAP4$$u$u$^^%^^%#(#(#((#OLD
That's fairly avoidable. The only reason I saw it when I was younger was because someone in my family had it or something.
I've gone the last twenty or so years without seeing it. I can imagine a kid doing the same.

>>493893
>but it just goes to show how there's a generation gap even between people of the same age group when it comes to games. This guy is the same age as me, yet all he ever knew growing up was N64 and the odd PS1 JRPG

I was schooled on PC games. N64 was totally irrelevant to me as a child except to make jokes about nogaems.

The Incredible Machine was a centerpiece of my 7 yo self; MK64 I had no idea even existed.

>>493901
That's not how wizardry works.
In five years I'll be 35. I won't be a wizard. I already lost my power source. I've respec'd to sorcerer and need another ten years. Not quite as powerful as a wizard, but still fairly useful.

>>493894
Am 23 here. First game was [picture] or SMW.

When I heard about EVIL DEAD, I watched Within the woods then the evil dead and went from there.
Happens with most things I want to be into.

>>493894
People don't do this frequently.

>mfw i'm 19 year old
> i keep playing retro games because of the shortage of good games these days

>>493894
>I'm pretty sure everyone has seen Wizard of Oz at least once

Star Wars

>>493897
>feelbook

I have one just to shut my family up.

>>493876
>>493890
>>493901
I've been married for three years. Have a house and a dog, all that. I started on 4chan a looong time ago, and stopped years ago when /v/ began to turn into the /v/ of today. I don't actually spend much time here, but have been enjoying the actual vidya discussion on this board for a week or so. I have a boring 9-5 computer/office job.

>>493893
>Yes, people bought earlier consoles, but they usually only had a handful of games, and often times lost interest in them before they finished them

Since the Internet was only in a really primitive state back then, people got bored of games quickly. I could go a month sometimes without ever touching a PC or console game as a child.

>>493927
> and stopped years ago when /v/ began to turn into the /v/ of today.
/v/ began that the day it was created.

>>493927
>I've been married for three years. Have a house and a dog, all that

>I'm married
>have a dog
>no mention of a human female

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/01/25/whats-your-state-worst-at-washington-ranked-for-bestiality/

Do you live in the state of Washington perchance?

>>493934
>no mention of a human female
He could be married to a human male.

>>490926
>a bunch of foaming at the mouth DOOM nerds at nerdy universities played DOOM all the time
>mainstream

>a game made for multiple OS's is more prolific than one OS
>being at all surprising

It was still not mainstream in the way that Goldeneye or Halo is mainstream. Face it.

>>489604
You've already been blinded. Go play COD.

>>493912
my mom saw that as a kid, of course it was only like 20 years old back then. Scared the fuck out of here.

>>493938
iceburn.jpg

>>493939
Doom shit on goldeneye for being mainstream. Everyone fucking played that shit, on everything and it was all over the place. It had dial-up multiplayer and LAN multiplayer and people were playing the shit out of it. People were mapping for it. It was gigantic.
Goldeneye was mainstream in that kids who bought an N64 played it and jerked off three other friends about it from time to time and some people would mention that they should get together and jerk each other off some time and everyone knew what that meant, loads of penis grabbing and goldeneye.
Shit every day with doom or quake and then even quake 2 you could play with hundreds of people a day when you got home.
Goldeneye, would never be anything more than a couple of kids and maybe be brought to a party where a dozen or so people got together to chuck it up at their inability to move and shoot properly.

>>493970
>being this /v/

Don't you have homework to do, kid?

>>493959
It wasn't really an iceburn. He could actually be married to a guy and if he was, he'd probably be a homosexual or bisexual. There's nothing wrong with that.

>>493939
DOOM was fucking everywhere.

>>493981
Please refrain from shitposting just because you can't stand valid criticism.

>>493970
This.

I swear all of these people in this thread claiming that Doom of all things was "niche" and for neckbeard nerds only did not actually live through the early nineties, or were too young at the time to actually remember anything from it.

>>493983
>He could actually be married to a guy and if he was, he'd probably be a homosexual or bisexual. There's nothing wrong with that

>>>/redshit/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/lgbt/

>>493983
Or he could be a she. Who knows, it's the internet.

>>493983
>>493959
>>493938
>>493934
I live in Oregon. Can't gay marry here yet. My wife is a cute Latina (non-practicing) Jew who's six years younger than me.

Best part about being an oldfag is the size of my vidya collection.

Worst part about being an oldfag is that I never get to play them.

>>494007
>My wife is a cute Latina (non-practicing) Jew who's six years younger than me

Are you trying to bait /pol/ trolls?

>>494004
gb2/pol/

>>494017
No, just being sincere. I know nothing of /pol/.

>>493994
>calling all Goldeneye players homosexuals who jerk each other off at sleepovers
>valid criticism

You're the one shitposting, kid.

Also, projecting much?

Here are some places you might fit in better:

>>>/b/
>>>/v/
>>>/lgbt/

>>494018
Fag marriage isn't real marriage try though you might like to believe otherwise.

>>494023
I dunno; just something about a bunch of dudes playing N64 games, showering together, sleeping in the same bed. Seems kind of gay.

Janitors please delete this thread.

>>494050
Yep.

>>494047
And 12 poindexters doing the same exact thing with Doom isn't? Wow you're a delusional fanboy.

>>494028
>denying two people in love the right to marry

>>494071
Marriage is a tax incentive the state gives to couples to encourage production of children who will be future taxpayers and members of the workforce.

>>494028
This is /v/ shitposting. Come on. Let's try to keep it clean in /vr/ and discuss retro games and not political or social issues, or your opinions thereof.

>>494081
So then sterile couples shouldn't marry?

>>489612
Halo is what started it for people too retarded to work KBM, yes.

>>494086
Or what about heterosexual couples who decide to not have kids