/vr/ - Retro Games

no bad

D-pad is suitable for “selecting” and 2D games

>wireless

>>4880010
It's also USB compatible, which is how I plan on using it.

>playing a precision platformer
>thumb gets blocked by the right stick and makes you mess up
Ruining the SNES layout like that is a shitty idea.

>>4880010
go back to /g/

>>4880018
care to draw a diagram of the problem you're describing?
I can't imagine how human thumbs could encounter this

>>4879974
The ergonomics will get you hand cancer after 20 minutes. Better use a dual shock controller for all emulation needs.

Really great my wife son loves playing with his 8BitDo please buy it

>>4879974
There's a newer version coming out that's a cross between the SNES and old Dualshock layouts. Wait for that.

>>4880010
Modern wireless controllers have no perceivable lag.

>>4880168
it's lost it's SNES charm, therefore it's pointless

>>4879974
Just get different controllers for different things. I have a dedicated 2D gamepad, a dedicated 3D gamepad, and a dedicated fighting gamepad. It's way better than trying to make one controller do all of it. And there are way more comfortable controllers out there than these ones as well, mimicking the SNES layout is just a meme, get a GOOD controller instead. You're emulating, that means you can take your pick of ANYTHING.

>>4880191
now you're not even trying

>>4880194
Then buy the one that's a pure SNES controller then. The SNES layout is far too cramped to fit a whole modern controller layout onto.

>>4880194
And the analog sticks don't already kill the "SNES charm"?

>>4880198
reconfiging the inputs every game is annoying

>>4880219
Every controller I own supports Xinput, so all the buttons read the same in the emulators. I plug in a different controller and it works in the software with no changes, the only change is the hardware layout of the buttons.

>>4880219
>Add emulators to Steam
>Configure controllers in BPM to use Xbox controller inputs
>Set emulators to use Xbox controller
Job done.

>>4880168
these look really nice.

>>4880194
autism/10

>>4880198
So what 2d gamepad you are using? I really want to get one for games before 6th generation.

>>4879974
Hijacking your thread

Anyone figure out how to use a DS4 via bluetooth on your phone without lag? I might just have to buy a cable.

Why not just get a DS4? That's actually, you know, comfortable to use.

>>4879974
Analog sticks are not comfortable to use without grips.

Hijacking thread: Is there any lag if I buy a USB to NES/SNES plug adapter?

Analog sticks disintegrate, but it is still one of the top options for controllers

>>4881512
Yes

>>4881321

At the moment my 2D gamepad and fighting gamepad are the same one. It's the Hori Fighting Commander (pic related). It's got a good d-pad, digital shoulder buttons, and 6 face buttons which is great for fighting games and Genesis games. Obviously works just as well for SNES and anything else, too.

>>4881751
If only this worked on Switch

>>4880269
Xbox controllers suck butt, though

>>4881857
No, he's saying the Steam wrapper will translate the gamepad inputs into Xbox inputs so that all your different gamepads will read the same in the software.

>>4879974
Bluetooth on it is laggy as fuck, but that may have been an issue with the adapter I was using it with. I find BT on PC to be generally unreliable and latency ridden, overall. Wired, however, it's perfectly fine. I'd suggest a Mayflash Wii U adapter and Pro controller for your wireless needs.

>>4881512
No

>>4880203
I wouldn't have minded a controller that has the SNES aesthetic with handles
Otherwise there's a wealth of controllers that look better than this new 8bitdo

>>4880213
No because everything else about it is instantly recognisable as SNES

>>4881457
is the wireless adapter still needed or can it be used with a usb-cable?

>>4881482
I'm inclined to agree

>>4880168
is it true there are legal issues preventing 8bitdo continuing to replicate the SNES design like they used to?

>>4882517
DS4 can be used with a usb cable no problem

>>4882558
No idea. I just figured they tweaked the design because they partnered up with Analogue, who wanted something more modern.

>>4882558
Nevermind, just looked it up. Apparently a law firm representing Nintendo in the UK sent out copyright claims across the globe, demanding stores pull the product from shelves.

>>4879974
I have one and think it's okay. I'd still prefer a 360 controller or a dualshock over it though. The triggers on it aren't the best and I mostly just use the shoulder buttons. With no grips the controller is a bit awkward and I feel like I'm pressing it between my palms more than holding it when I use the analog sticks.

>>4882393
Oh, that was what you meant? Fair enough. I thought you meant the handles but I see what you mean. Everything else does look a bit off.

I need more 2d gamepad suggestions for pc emulation.

>>4882782
Right. I want an SFC30 Pro with handles.
The Pro + from the image in this thread, doesn’t quite achieve that from an aesthetic point of view.
If I just wanted a good controller with handles, then I’m spoilt for choice.

Unless the sticks are a selling point for you, get an iBuffalo Classic.

>>4879974
It's great. I use it on my snes mini, laptop and switch.

>>4883762
>snes mini
I thought that didn’t support Bluetooth though

>>4883807
8bitdo makes SNES Classic-compatible wireless dongles for their controllers.

>>4883816
My understanding is that they make controllers that are compatible with snes classic (2.4ghz or whatever it is). But the sfc30 pro isn’t compatible.
I’ll stand corrected though

>>4880194
>>4882393
im sure nintendo blocked them from making replicated controllers.

Luckily they are making a new batch for 2018, some share flavors similar to snes
>hori gameboy controller
>n64
>gamecube
...and some show retro flavors we know and love
>snes
>sfc
>sega? (the black one with blue start/select)

I like that they offer 3 types now for each color
>snes
>snes + joystick
>snes + joystick + ps4 handles and L2/R2 triggers

Sucks that this is only compatible with the NES Classic Edition.

I wish they make a non-2.4G version for the original NES and AV Famicom.
I don't like the diamond ABXY arrangement on their previous NES30 controllers for NES/Famicom games.

>>4883887
From what I understand, the dongles are for the non-2.4G controllers (like the Pro versions) while the 2.4G controllers are only for the Classic Edition consoles and can't work anywhere else.

Also, now I wish for similar solutions for Sega consoles, with six-button layouts for the Genesis and Saturn too.

And a more ergonomic Saturn 3D Control Pad with dual analog sticks will probably make it the best controller for the Saturn.

>>4883887
>>4883979
http://www.8bitdo.com/retro-receiver-snes-sfc-classic/

It's almost, almost finally coming.

>>4883982
Yes, there are Retro Receivers for the Classic Editions for the non-2.4G controllers but there are also 2.4G controllers specifically made for these Classic Editions, with the main appeal being the ability to access the HOME menu using the controller and not having to press the reset button.

>>4883989
Do the 2.4g controllers made for the mini consoles still require a dongle?

If they do then why do they exist? Why not just sell the singles and their traditional controllers?

>>4883994
>Do the 2.4g controllers made for the mini consoles still require a dongle?
Yes, they come with a 2.4GHz dongle to plug into the controller port.

>If they do then why do they exist? Why not just sell the singles and their traditional controllers?
That's a good question.

>>4883995
I guess people REALLY just wanted to access the home button on the controller rather than having to press the reset button.

This has been my go-to emulation controller for a bit. Nice dpad, comfy grips, love the oversized digital shoulder buttons

>>4884000
The Bluetooth controllers all have Nintendo Switch-compatible Home buttons, though. Why not just program the SNES Classic dongle to read the Home button as the Reset function? Seems silly to have the 2.4GHz controllers if the only "difference" is the Reset function which could be implemented on the Bluetooth controllers just as easily since they already have extra buttons on them.

>>4884002
I want to like this controller, but why in the HELL did they put ZL and ZR on the face next to the Start/Select buttons? I will never understand this.

>>4881751
Isn't the dpad on that a little stiff compared to something like this?

>>4883986
I thought this already came out and was shit. No?

>>4883762
>switch
Is it better than the Switch pro controller? I’ve heard Nintendo fucked up with the dpad on that thing

>>4884012
those fight pads are ass

>>4884012

Yes, that's what I like about it. The stiffness means better accuracy, but it's not so stiff as to be hard to press.

>>4883816
you can use the charging cable to make it a usb controller for your pc. it has a d-input, x-input, and mac mode

>>4880104

>>4884442
Let me hook you up bro

>>4880010
shit le shit yourself fag

The d-pads on 8bitdo controllers are notoriously hit or miss, and even the hits aren't up to the standard of the controllers they are pretending to be. Better than a lot of alternatives, though.

>>4879974
It's solid. Best part is its very portable due to how thin it is.

>>4884442
wat

>>4884492
Why are spades so hard to make? And how did Nintendo forget how to make them?

>>4884732
Dpads not spades
Fucking drunk phoneposting

>>4882614
so that official wireless adapter is just for convenience?

>>4884017
I like it. Good dpad and does literally every function of the pro.

>>4879974
i use this controller for everything. i unironically enjoy it even for gtav or grim dawn or divinity original sin.

It's exceptionally solid for a third party controller. Especially some gimmicky shit from an almost no-name company

Is the logitech f310 good?, anyone has experience with it?

>>4879974
8bitdo is top tier 3rd party controller company

>>4880010
using wireless controllers for years now, never had an issue playing hundreds of snes / genesis / nes games

>>4879974
Just buy this instead its incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3Wz9qPyc0

>>4886512
That looks really uncomfortable in the video.

>>4879974
The form factor is garbage while playing with the sticks, buy a PS4 or 360 pad instead.

>>4886512
You seriously need to go back to /v/ and to stop recommending shit without d-pads on the retro board.

>>4885002
I don't think it does HD rumble nor NFC.

>>4884017
The Pro Dpad apparently sometimes has problems with registering diagonals when you simply press left or right. Some Pro controllers don't have the problem and it's possible to fix it manually if you do have it however.

>>4884442
This is the ideal controller grip. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>4887610
>it's possible to fix it manually
I was not aware of this. Any pointers?

>>4887841
It involves covering part of the contact points with tape so it won't accidentally trigger it when you don't mean to.
http://www.ateijelo.com/blog/2017/07/12/effective-fix-switch-pro-controller-dpad-issues

>>4880168
L2/L3/R2/R3 included?

>>4887851
Thanks for the tip!

>>4879974
I would reccomend the Switch Propad for an all-purpose emulation controller.

Nintendo’s build quality remains unrivaled to this day. Also, that nintendo dpad. Mm mm mh mm mm

>>4887920
The Hori equivalent are great for peope who prefer sega style dpads too.

>>4886867
Or, and I know this is crazy, you can accept that retro gaming is both possible and even better minus a Dpad.

I know, I'll see myself out.

>>4886818
Its not, its actually really comfy. Try to get your hands on a steam controller sometime, they are truly amazing.

>>4886512
>>4886818
>>4886867
>>4887993
>>4888009

This is as better video than what that other anon posted, shows that mario is possible

https://youtu.be/-3QdoLWlzUI?t=303

8bitdo dpad is shite. was so stoked when i got my sn30. used it for a week before putting it away permanently and instead use a snes classic mini controller with a mayflash adapter

>>4884927

It doesn't even need that wireless dongle, it literally has bluetooth built in and you can pair it with whatever you like (hold PS and share buttons for about 10 sec while controller is turned off, it will activate BT mode). I don't even know why wireless dongles for DS4 exist.

Oh, if you want DS4 to be usable with PC you need either third party software called DS4Windows or Steam (DS4 doesn't use xinput).

>>4888056
>snes classic mini controller with a mayflash adapter
Does this work on Switch or just PC?

>>4879974
A friend of mine has one and it felt really nice to use. The button layout might fuck you up if you use it for anything other than emulation though. When you see "hit B," you should really be hitting A. Shit like that.

Is the d-pad really as bad as some /vr/ make it out to be or are they just autistic?

in some reviews they'll hold a snes controller next to it to compare them and the plastic on the 8bitdo almost looks slightly translucent by comparison. is this noticeable in real life or is it just to do with how they have the review lit or something?

>>4888056
>snes classic mini controller with a mayflash adapter

Do you have a link to one of these? I can't find them on Amazon or on Mayflash's website, but I'm interested.

>>4879974
>What about the layout, is it cramped?

Yes: https://youtu.be/9Ymvi5e32wE?t=1m20s

>>4881781
Just get a magic-ns, my man.

>>4888969
does that guy have larger than average hands though? his thumb looks like a toe.

>>4889081
Maybe slightly, but I could still see it being an annoyance for the average person, too.

>>4888556
nice, thanks.

>>4879974
that would be the perfect controller if it had a 6-button layout.

>>4882752
>fucking bongs ruining it for everyone

cool. thanks.

>>4888965
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089O4EB0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

shit I paid $20 and now its $13. this angers my inner jew

>>4888815
its not good. diagonals are way too sensitive.

>>4888797
dont the classic mini cons automatically work with switch like all wii connector cons?

>>4888969
>>4889081
>>4889113
I think the guy large hands and probably large balls too. I agree with the awkward movement required to press start and select but I have zero issue pressing bottom on the dpad or the B button. My thumbs are clear of the sticks and don't touch them at all.

Maybe it's me. Maybe I just have small balls.

>>4891665
Wii controllers don't work on Switch

>>4880168
>Have top-left style
>Sticks so small I can't use them for more than an hour before pain
They're way too fucking small, and the mushroomed shape creates an edge that just digs in unless you're somehow capable of holding the very tip of your thumb on the top

I've heard pic related has a good d-pad. Anyone know?

I've heard pic related has a good d-pad. Anyone know?

>>4887920
Would be perfect with symetrical sticks. I can't stand playing a platformer with an offset d-pad and face buttons.
Plus there's the whole issue with the d-pad's innacuracy.

>>4893394
I wish they made this for the Xbone.

>>4893394
I have been wanting to buy that to check it, I hope someone here has some experience to share

>>4893398
>symmetrical sticks

>>4893410
Offset sticks are ok for games that mostly use the sticks but when you're playing a game with the dpad and face buttons it's pretty uncomfortable.

what's the most affordable but good usb controller? the hori mini is kinda tempting sometimes but i don't want to unless there aren't good cheaper options

>>4893410
You're on /vr/

>>4893410
Good for PS1/2 emulation
bad for pretty much everything else

>>4893472
What about games that don't use the sticks?

>>4893394
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hori-mini-controller-for-sony-playstation-4/6129104.p?skuId=6129104

>This item is no longer available.
WELP

>>4893481
just get it off ebay dude

>>4893394
I'll never not find it hilarious that you can effectively replace the touch pad with a single button and not lose any functionality.

>>4893795
Not much used the DS4's touch pad. I got the most use out of it on the PS TV because it emulates the Vita's touch pad.

>>4879974
Enjoy your Chinese made sweatshop electronics

>>4884013
The initial batch had an issue where the innards of the stick and left shoulder button were making contact or something. They went back and fixed it and are shipping by the end of this month according to the last email I got from them like a week ago. Hoping it's not trash, but I'm not too chuffed if I'm out the 30 bucks or whatever it was.

>>4885081
>>4888041
i will never understad why you cucks unironically enjoy a touchpad d-pad. obviously it works you dumb retards but its fucking stupid. How are you going to push down on a d-pad harder when you dont think youre going to make a jump? the dpad is the hardest valve has fucked up since not making half life 3

>>4879974
I find that if I try to use it for anything involving the sticks it feels cramped. If I'm just using it for games with no analog support and ignore the sticks it works pretty well. Shoulda bought one without them I suppose.

>>4894037
>How are you going to push down on a d-pad harder when you dont think youre going to make a jump?

Why do you need to?

>>4894201
youre on a board where you can say
>why do you need to
to literally every thread

why do people feel the need to have real hardware to emulators hurr why do people feel the need to own games instead of drive replacement sd cards durr what is analog feedback etc etc

it feels good and it feels right and it makes those tense moments that more tense. much better than that horrible hard click of the steam controller

>>4894221
this guy doens't understand the haptic feedback or clicky buttons that the touch pads have.

>>4894223
Im sure thats what it is. And youre definitely not being intentionally retarded.

>>4894221
Look anon, I get that you like to have the things you like. It's a universal desire among many many gamers.

The steam controller allows for a large amount of variation and types of feedbacks. If you spent some time really digging into it, you might come to see some things our way. Pick one up on super crazy sale through steam sometime.

If you already own it however, give it more love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPUgmcV7Ps

>>4894223
Haptic feedback is awful, though.

>>4895850
If you say so anon.