/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4881535
It's 2018 and you only now realized that Mortal Kombat is a garbage series? Okay Kiddo.

The ultimate "that will be another $0.50 please" move. Then the next time you fight her she suddenly doesn't do that move.

webms aren't working for me for some dumbass reason, what is it?

>>4881545
wow dude if you're gunna post at least show some effort.

>>4881535
>Gets picked up after trying to do a move on wake up
>Does it again
>Does it again
>Does it again
>Does it yet again
Block or neutral jump you retard, quit trying to do wake up moves

>>4881562
you never fought jade before? she does that regardless of what you do

>>4881570
Yes, I have. And thats why do don't try to attack on wake up. You block and wait for an opening or if she is far enough away neutral jump in to an attack. She is REALLY fucking easy due to having an extremely predictable AI. The OP refuses to figure that out though.

>>4881557
Why?

>>4881554
Sub Zero attempting to freeze Jade, but gets locked into an assault and messily slaughtered after being backed into a corner.

>>4881535
Jade is impervious to all forms of projectiles, you need to go on the defensive and smack her whenever she's recovering from her attacks.

>>4881554
Sometimes image delivery gets shuffled around between servers of greatly varying speeds, but they're available to all servers. This is most noticeable for large file sizes.

Try opening it in a new tab, then change the part of the address before /vr/ to https://i.4cdn.org

>>4881608
Thanks.

>>4881620
No problem. I think it's only been an issue since after moot left. I'm sure it's meant to be some sort of cost-saving effort to spread around the server load.

>>4881545
This. The mk games were absolute garbage and sold purely because of gore gimmicks and have aged fucking terribly because if this.

>not wake up sweeping
also there's this thing called a block button

>>4881545
MK came out after street fighter 2, yet it feels like it came out years before it. They someone how managed to de-evolve alot of the amazing mechanics sf cemented and created a ridiculously shallow game that sold on shock value alone.

>>4881640
there's a part of me that misses that faggot, hiro just ain't the same

>>4881535
Isn't she supposed to be overpowered in this game or am I getting characters mixed up?

>>4881535
Absolutely embarrassing display. Stop playing video games.

>>4881886
To be fair, though I shit on it, it's simpler and consolidated controls are one of the things that made it gain popularity when it did. As opposed to Street Fighter where each character has a larger learning curve and more complex moves, you can pick anyone in Mortal Kombat and learn them in a few minutes.

It was like an early party game and is quite good at low level play. It's at high level play they all fall apart.

>>4881903
Computer Jade will spam her projectile shield like crazy. OP kept trying to do a wake up freeze on her and got wrecked.

>>4881951
Only 1 and 2. MK3 is fun as fuck with the higher level. The combos and attacks allow for some of that higher learning curve you mentioned.

>>4881907
LOL. feel free to share your webm instead.

>>4881576
Is that a jelly donut?

>>4882173
It's a nikuman

>>4882003
Lol

What do you expect? MK has always been a broken mess.

It sold on aesthetics, not on gameplay.

>>4881874
>>4881874
>aged

>>4882651
>conversing in English
>not understanding common English phrasing

Why people choose to announce they're stupid instead of trying to learn for themselves is quite something.

>>4881535
>play MK
>expect balance
comedy gold!

>>4881903
Jade was completely impervious to projectiles in MK2, where she was a secret character.
In UMK3, what the computer does is the following:
>see projectile
>activate shield
>run through projectile
>combo the opponent
She does those 3 actions in less than a second. It's almost completely impossible for a human to even do this (run while activating the shield), let's not even say do this while REACTING to a projectile that was thrown right on her face.

MK's CPU, specifically MK2's and UMK3's, is notorious for reading your inputs and having just the right counterattack for it. However, it's also pretty easy to exploit once you know what you're doing.

The first versions of MK2 had the computer counter every one of your throws. They counter-throw even while frozen. Even while in FINISH HIM! Imagine that.

They toned it down in later versions (don't counter-throw when in FINISH HIM! anymore) because people lost their shit (and it seems the machine froze if both characters lost).

>>4882715
>MK's CPU, specifically MK2's and UMK3's, is notorious for reading your inputs

They all do that

>>4882756
MK2 and UMK3 are notorious because you can see pretty clearly that they start reading your inputs after the second opponent.
MK3 is pretty chill, even the console versions.

>>4882763
Every fighting game reads your inputs and reacts to that, not what your character is doing.

>>4881535
You're playing with the wrong mentality. In order to konquer Mortal Kombat AI you gotta cheese as much as possible it's essentially a kontest between who can cheat the most.

>>4882669
wow I didn't know mk2 supported widescreen

>>4882715
Cant we just say, the programming sucked ass!?

>>4882776
Not to the level of MK2/3. MK AI will ALWAYS react with the same counter attack to whatever you are doing. When it comes down to it, you actually have full control over the AI. Once you realize this, all you do is position yourself, throw your bait that the AI will take 100% of the time, and counter accordingly. eg: in MK2, jump away from AI, kicking as soon as you leave the ground. The AI will hesitate, then dry jump towards you. punish as you see fit. in MK3, neutral jump- the AI will instantly run in- LK while falling into dial a combo.

Projectiles in MK2 have varying AI reaction depending on range: within sweep distance, you're going to get swept. outside sweep to 2/3 arena distance, AI will just duck, or counter if they have a "rock" to your "paper" (Mileena will roll at you or drop kick, for eg) near full screen distance, projectiles with cause the AI to jump away, and get hit.

Taking this into account, realize that there are also moves you can do that are basically suicide. Projectiles against the AI in MK3 is one of these, as seen in the OP webm.

some AI characters have their own quirks as they try to out rock/paper/scissors you. take Liu Kang or Mileena - if you try to jump in they will immediately air projectile you. from anything other than close range, this makes jump ins a suicide attempt. however, if you are in their face, jump forward, kicking immediately. they will attempt their air projectile counter, but your kick will connect first. repeat that pressure just like the Baraka/Kintaro webm.

>>4884167
con't

Outside of MK, the only AI I've ever seen react to bait like this is M.Bison in SF Alpha 3. Tapping jab will cause:
1- he'll duck, pause, fireball. so if you see him duck, jump in, combo the fuck out of him, then back of and go back to jabbing.
2- teleport behind you. as soon as you see the teleport animation begin, tap Fierce punch to inflict a counter hit. combo accordingly, then back off and continue jabbing.
congrats, you just got 2 perfects on him.

>>4884167
>>4884171
thanks!

>>4882626
MK's aesthetics were barely a redeeming feature, they were abysmal from the start. laughably bad looking stages, unmemorable songs, uninteresting character designs, and repetitive fatalities make it look like a fossil compared to the dozens of fighting games released before it.

>>4882665
You really have no idea why people don't like that word, do you?

>>4883320
Don't know if bait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat_II
>ctrl+f "Display"
and by bait I mean commonly found in arcade games

>>4881535

Love me some buffering.

>>4884269
what commonly found in arcade games?

>>4884273
get better internet

>>4884289
Wide resolution

>>4884273
See
>>4881608
>>4881640

>>4882173
IIII want a jelly donut toooooo.

>>4885520

>>4884258
Ohh no I understand fully. It makes mocking their idiocy a lot of fun.

>>4882669
You did that even as a kid and the SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP etc.

>play any MK game
>get BTFO by the miniboss
>boss is actually easy as fuck
>except for shao kahn

>>4881557
No one can defeat sub zero.

>>4882173
Eat your jelly donuts, Apollo.

>>4881535
Is it just me or anyone else heard shao kahn laugh 4 times while watching this webm lol

>>4881535
You suck.

>>4884171
I fought Bison in Alpha 3 so much that I knew everything his AI could do. If he does a stomp but doesn't follow up afterwards, there's a 100% chance that he'll use Final Psycho Crusher. I got so used to it that it was almost like a dance to me.

>>4887256
I think Shao Kahn is the kind of boss that can just kill you if he feels like it. I mean, when he starts doing shoulder rams and those rising knees non-stop, you're already dead. Don't even bother blocking.

>>4887256
Shang Tsung was almost a plot boss and more of a tech demo. His skulls could do a lot of damage, but he had no moves of his own aside from those, and he didn't seem to throw them in sets larger than three very often. If he did though, he could unleash a string of six that would kill the player from full health if they all connected.

Shinnok was just utterly botched and still suffers from some poor use. Shao Kahn, however, is probably the key example of a final boss that the series got right. He feels like a proper badass who could beat all of his underlings (or at least stand a chance against them) and he has a unique move set.