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>> No.4856276

Console and arcade games, particularly sports, fighting, and racing titles. Sega especially targeted the jock/dudebro audience.

>> No.4856278

Grab-ass Champions

>> No.4856282

Video games demographics weren't as tribalized then as they are now.
Anything that was popular I guess.

>> No.4856287

Console games always had a more normie audience with computer gamers being neckbeards. If you look at computer gaming magazines in the 80s-90s versus publications like EGM, you notice it right off the bat. Computer gaming mags were always very geeky and heavily focused on the hardware side of things while console-focused mags had a much more normie aesthetic to them.

>> No.4856289
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SF, duh.
Guile is the ultimate Chad.

>> No.4856290

>>4856276
Further proof Sega was better than Nintendo cucks

>> No.4856291

>>4856269
Your crush, your mom, and your sister xD

>> No.4856292

>>4856269
football, baseball, basketball
by the time he was 16 he was driving around fingering girls and drinking

>> No.4856315

7th Saga.

Every normie I knew that didn’t like RPGs that I lent this game to ended up going balls deep on it and one even beat the damn thing.

>> No.4856329

Nothing. Video games only became popular in 2007 when Call of Duty 4, Portal, and The Big Bang Theory came out.

>> No.4856332

>>4856276
Not really. EA targeted that audience and they were simply better at making games for the Genesis than they were at the SNES.

>> No.4856338

>>4856332
All the same, Sega clearly aimed for the jock/dudebro audience if you saw any of their advertisements from the 90s and they had a very close relationship with EA, who also got the unique privilege of being allowed to manufacture their own Genesis cartridges. SoA refused to consider localizing any Saturn JRPGs because they didn't think it fit with their market image and target audience.

>> No.4856345

>>4856332
This was probably because EA had a lot of experienced 680x0 coders from having released Amiga/Atari ST games since the mid-80s--they were literally the first developer to put out a commercial game release for the Amiga all the way back in 1985. They also became one of the earliest American devs to develop for the Genesis, so they understood it well and had tons of experience with it.

>> No.4856354

Chads are to stupid to use electronics.

>> No.4856382

>>4856269

Vanguard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=farSRgI_w5E

>> No.4856387

>>4856345
I suspect that perhaps explains the success of the Genesis in the UK; it was easy for programmers with Amiga/ST experience to code for it.

>> No.4856409

>>4856338
> unique privilege
MY ASS. sega learnt that EA had reverse engineered their devkit and EA decided to tell sega to go fuck themselves by making their own carts. sega tried to do a deal much like nintendo had tried to do but EA already had a previous agreement with sega that didn't involve the genesis and EA weren't willing to budge. sega were so afraid of EA's ability to make their own carts and to take money directly out of sega's pockets that sega did a sweet deal for EA.

>> No.4856410

>>4856292
Correct answer. Chad didn't play vidya until more recently. And if they did it was vidya of the sports they actually played.

>> No.4856423

>>4856329
Games were already earning billions of dollars from arcades.

>> No.4856429

>>4856329
>This is what /v/ actually believes

>> No.4856432

Tecmo Bowl

>> No.4856441

>>4856409
The Genesis AFAIK had no proprietary components and it shared some of its chipset with Sega arcade machines so it would not have been hard to find out tech info on the console.

>> No.4856457

>>4856409
Later on they made it that unlicensed carts wouldn't work, but early Model 1 Genesis consoles have no lockout feature.

>> No.4856798

>>4856276
This pretty much, but some other stuff as well. The guy I first learned about emulators from is now a professional sports writer.

>> No.4856807

>>4856269
N64 = multiplayer party games with friends, listening to blink-182, fingering girls

PS1 = beta weeb games, listening to Barenaked Ladies, jacking off to Tifa

>> No.4856814

>>4856269
Tha Shaq Fu for sega genesis of course.

>> No.4856876

Counter Strike

>> No.4856949

Art of Fighting, NBA Jam, Scud Race, Winning Eleven

>> No.4857045

>>4856269

Judging from that photo he played 'hide his dick in the other guys anus'.

>> No.4857064

>>4856289
Even Biggie played Street Fighter II, so that one's a pretty safe bet.

>> No.4857285

>>4856807
Since nobody older than 12 listens to Blink 182, I doubt you were fingering any girls for a few more years.

>> No.4857295

anybody played games back in the day. you had chads and nerds both playing the same shit.
now its a bit different you wouldnt catch a chad playing a weeb game. also you wont catch a weeb playing a sports game.

most chads play racing, sports, fighting or shooting/fps.

>> No.4857296

Madden if American.
Fifa if not.

>> No.4857298

>>4856949
AoF over SFII or Mortal Kombat?

>> No.4857301

The Chads in my area didn't really pop up until 7th grade, and they were way too busy with steroids/cruising around town robbing people/selling drugs to mess with video games. I imagine if they found themselves in an arcade they'd opt to rob people at the change machine rather than play games.

>> No.4857319

>>4857301
Those are some bad Chads. I wouldn't even call them Chads, those are Brads.

>> No.4857323

>>4857301
>>4857319
What about those people who can hang out with chads and compete with them but also hang out with nerds and do everything they did too.

why is there such segregation between types of people? I dont ever hear of well-rounded people or people who can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they want...like me. why is my kind unheard of?

>> No.4857326

>>4857323
Those people aren't chads, they're just normal people. You're a normal person. This thread isn't about normal people.

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>>4857301
Those aren't Chads, those are Franks.

>> No.4857351

>>4856329
I went to college in 2005. My frat boy roommate in Freshman year had an N64 which he used to play Perfect Dark and Mario Kart.

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>>4857329
Or Teddies

>> No.4858236

>>4857285
I was born in 1985 and blink-182 was one the most popular bands in the world by the late 90s. Everyone owned Dude Ranch and Enema of the State.

>> No.4858286
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The chads in my area loved this game & Road Rash.

When Playstation came out, they played stuff like GTA, 2xtreme, Twisted Metal, Vigilante 8.

>> No.4858324

>>4858286
Don't forget the Tony Hawk series. Possibly the Chaddest of Chad games on the PS1.

>> No.4858409

whatever the fuck he wanted to
if chad does a thing its chad shit
if a dork does something its weeb shit+

>> No.4858423

>>4856269
They vaguely remember having a sega at some point

>> No.4858508

None. They were too busy racing their shitty ricer cars and listening to Pantera back then.

>> No.4858595

>>4857285

Nah your memory's a little hazy there, until 2005 or so all the Chads were into Blink and pop punk bands in general. It was basically the de-facto college music, if you ever see old Warped Tour footage you can spot them easily. Once emo took off so did they, and as you alluded to, the audience got a lot younger.

>> No.4858608

>>4856269
He'd 1CC everything at the arcade and get all the bitches.

>> No.4859023

Chad didn't play games.

>> No.4859081

>>4857351
Can confirm, console gaming for normies exploded on N64.
Theres not a single chad over 20 that hasnt played some version of super smash, mario cart or a Zelda game.

>> No.4859180

Basically everything that wasn't marketed for kids (which includes most but not all of Nintendo's later 90s output), marketed for girls, or could be mistaken as for girls by the imagery (some late 90s games with 2D anime girl characters)

>> No.4859191

>>4859081
That might be your age talking more than anything. I knew a lot of typical jock types (which I assume is what you mean when you say Chad) who had NESs and SNESs. Like this guy who was ripping SNES roms himself >>4856798

How there came to this idea that it would be unusual for people into sports to also be into other kinds of games confounds me. There's always been huge crossover.

>> No.4859197

>>4859191
Im half jock, and all my jock friends play videogames. I remember being a kid a swapping games. Its not just sports or nintendo, chads can like anything. Most chads are not actually as stupid as you think, its just the way they act.

>> No.4859204

>>4857045
cope

>> No.4859212

>>4859197
It's almost like stereotypes are rarely accurate when you truly get to know other people. Amazing!!!

>> No.4859375

>>4858236
Music and pop culture in general went down the shitter in the late 90s. Pop punk, nu metal, pop music in general (boybands were the biggest offender). At least video games had another decade of relatively decent output.

>>4858595
Pop punk was this kind of weird abortion of college rock, punk and wiggerism. Truly a product of the 90s.

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>>4859197
Are you saying this movie lied to me!? Is my life a lie!?

>> No.4859437

>>4859391
You think Booger played Atari Porn?

>> No.4859483

>>4859375
Depends on how old you are I think. I was too young for the grunge era so pop punk was pretty much the music of my youth. I’ll take mall punk over the current mall EDM any day though.

>> No.4859492

>>4859437
That’s Ogre, dummy.

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>>4859492
I know that

>> No.4859569

>>4859375
I would sooner take the cheesiest glam metal of the 80's than I would grunge desu

>> No.4861604

>>4859483
I was too young for grunge too, but that doesn`t mean I should like the musical equivalent of American Pie. I`m ashamed to admit it, but I did listen to The Bloodhound Gang when I was younger.

>mall EDM

I`m not really in the know of current musical trends, is it something like dubstep? Give examples.

>>4859569
Both had a lot of stinkers. I kinda like AiC and Soundgarden. 80s had WASP, which was also decent, not really straight up cock rock.

>> No.4861610

>>4861604
>Give examples

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lNPN4tLlgxQ

>> No.4861615

>>4861604
Every time I hear “Outshined” I feel the need to blurt our “It is in these hills that Juan Valdez and his trusty goat gather coffee beans every morning”, B&B warped my view of music I guess

>> No.4861617

>>4861604
There is literally nothing wrong with still liking early 00s pop punk. I defy you to listen to this and not start singing along:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=desJKYvdq9A

>> No.4861624

>>4856269
Madden
Madden '92
Madden '93
Madden '94
Madden '95
Madden '96
Madden '97
Madden '98
Madden '99
Madden 2000

I would say Madden Duo CD Football too, but only weebs bought the Turbo Duo. Nobody bought the 3DO.

>> No.4861631

>>4861617
Adding to this: people that snobbishly deny liking pop music are always weird to me. You can enjoy both technically proficient music alongside catchy 3 minute summer jams.

>> No.4861648

>>4856269

Madden, NHL 93, Tecmo Bowl, Arch Rivals, NBA Jam, NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, NBA Street, Tiger Woods, 2K Series, Blades of Steel, Excitebike, Fifa, California Games, UFC (Dreamcast), Golden Tee, Cabela Hunting, Skeeball, Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

Non Sports Games: Goldeneye, Tetris.

Am Chad can confirm.

>> No.4861650

>>4861648
>Am Chad
>posting on /vr/

doubt.jpg

>> No.4861678

>>4861650
Not him, but just because you are a sad sack of lard of balding robot, doesn't mean everyone else on /vr/ is like that

>> No.4861684

>>4861617
Different anon and I literally forgot this song even existed. Thanks for bringing it back. A lot of things from early 00s is really unlucky. It's "too new" to be played on retro radio channels, but still dated enough to fall off everywhere else.

>> No.4861686

>>4861678
Nah pretty much all of /vr/ is like that. This is the board that literally endlessly argues over whether Metal Gear Solid, Symphony of the Night and Ocarina of Time are good games or not. /vr/ may quietly be 4chan’s most autistic board.

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>>4861686
>Being in denial this deep
>Projecting own "issues" on others

>> No.4861706

>>4861697
Uh dude. Check the catalog. Nothing I said is wrong.

>> No.4861715

>>4861648
What games do you discuss on this board?

>> No.4861716
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>>4861706

>> No.4861717

>>4861631
Pop music is almost always quite technically proficient.

>> No.4861721

>>4861686
>/vr/ may quietly be 4chan’s most autistic board.

You're not wrong. I got that vibe from the posts on here.

>> No.4861724

>>4861716
There are always and I mean always at least three threads up about why Ocarina of Time sucks. This board is mega autismo.

>> No.4861730

Pro-PAIN

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>>4861724
>Still missing it
>Only now harder

>> No.4861740

>>4861721
/g/ with their stallman worship is worse honestly

>> No.4861742

>>4861734
Alrighty then.

>> No.4861851

>>4861717
Well it has to be. Also post production studio magic.

>> No.4861857

>>4861740
RMS did nothing wrong.

>> No.4861868

>>4861857
he's more of a motivational speaker than he is a programmer

>> No.4861875

>>4861868
Nowadays, sure, but without him there would be no Linux today, nor would the FLOSS movement be as big.

>> No.4861878

>>4856807
>PS1 = beta weeb games
pl0x
PSX is FIFA99

>> No.4861882

>>4856807
At the time I was really into Metallica, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Marilyn Manson etc

>> No.4862057

>>4861631

Music Preference in Introverts and Extroverts

For the majority of people in the industrialized West, music is primarily a means of social identity and unity. Millions listen to the same top 25 songs that everyone else is listening to. Of those top twenty-five a few refuse to fade away each year and the eventual result is a handful of ‘oldies’ that provides a sense of commonality between members of a generation. Members of each respective ethnicity listen to the music associated with their community.
“What music do you listen to?” Is one of the most frequently used conversational ice breakers and one of the most dreaded questions for the introvert.
An introvert tends to listen to music for very different reasons than the socialite and any frank answer to this question must lead to misunderstanding.

The typical popular song is a very simple thing: There is a lead singer to whom any other instruments are subordinate. The song repeats indefinitely, constrained to an unchanging beat and tempo through a few verses. One has heard the entire song quite often in less than a minute.
The lyrics are thus the most important element, sending the message the music seeks to convey in a straightforward unmistakeable fashion.
The point is to create a particular social atmosphere, send a message of group allegiance, and to advertise one’s beliefs by a convenient proxy.

>> No.4862060

>>4862057
Conventionally, music is first and foremost a social tool. A successful song is short, snappy, and simple so it might concisely serve its function.
Asking someone about musical preference is such a popular conversation starter because in an instant it reveals one’s age, ethnicity, allegiances, preferences, and values. Ordinarily, it is a foolproof Commonality Audit. When the introvert is asked this question and gives a non-standard response, it is as though a scanner at the grocery store has just passed over an incomprehensible barcode. The resulting clash of world views can potentially result in social censure for the introvert; it is just another of the mechanisms that forces him or her beneath the Surface.

The introvert tends to listen to music within a private domain. Its purpose is to please the senses, excite the spirit, and invite contemplation.
The mission of the introvert is to find the sound that inspires before all else. Concerns of self-advertisement are secondary if present at all.
The most engaging music is complex, offering something new to listen to every time.
There is not necessarily a lead singer and if so, the human voice is just another instrument performing beside all the others.
The progression of tones is changing and difficult to predict, tones and silences do not always occur where they are expected, volume varies from thunderous heights to barely audible rainfall, the lead instrument(if any) yields to or joins with others, the pace quickens and slows, there are multiple layers each intricate in its own right.

The message of the introvert’s ideal music need not be stated in words: the sound itself contains the message and inspires a nuanced mood.

It is telling that a popular song never truly comes to an end: it usually just fades out, implying to the listener that they have just spent a few minutes in a world where the song loops forever. The invitation is thus open to return and start exactly where one left off.

>> No.4862067

>>4862060
A song of the social sphere is thus a single simple thought encased in glass.
The music of an introvert is a living thought process wrought in sound and silence, a shifting sculpture of time and vibration.

When the extrovert asks an introvert “What music do you listen to?” he or she ends up confused, perhaps even angry when not given Correct answers.
The introvert becomes cautious, closed, and annoyed. Going through his or her head is:
-How presumptious and rude to ask such an invasive question so soon!
-How arrogant and narrow-minded that by ‘music’ they mean just mean a handful of popular bands!
-How unpleasant and nervewracking that they have clumsily created conflict and subjected me to a Commonality Audit!

In music itself is the fundamental difference:
-For extroverts music is primarily a social force defining the self from without. It is inseparable from the public domain.

-For introverts music is deeply personal, its main purpose is to inspire, cultivate, and reveal what lies within. It is most potent in private where one can experience it beyond the judgments of others.

>> No.4862079

>>4862067
There are usually exceptions to the trend, but I would have to say the majority of Pop music I’ve heard is by a band of a few people for whom showmanship is just as important(if not more important) than musicianship.

A band’s music often seems secondary to the performers stage stunts and cults of personality. Is KISS the same if all the costumes and pageantry were stripped away? Is it just a coincidence that a hugely disproportionate amount of pop musicians are good looking enough to be models? Is it the music you’re buying when the CD cover is plastered with glamorous pictures of a hero star dressed in the clothes of a certain fashion faction?

Let’s take the Beatles, a band that is often held up as an example of pop music at its best. They vary their lyrics and delivery more than most pop bands. They live on the extreme as they tell complex(relatively speaking) stories in a few of their songs. We get glimpses of some lonely people, hard working couples, a poor mother trying to support her children, and a yellow submarine.
However, most of the deeper meaning we assign to the Beatles comes from their cult of personality, ideas, and activism. Lennon’s ‘Imagine’ definitely has a strongly ideological message, but a naive and simplistic one at best. Most of the huge meaning we give to this song comes from the fact that someone who sang about peace ended up dying violently. Most of the meaning comes from the culture without rather than from the music itself.

>> No.4862081

>>4862079
This is supposed to be pop music at its very best and I still find it lacking. Like nearly all bands, they repeat themselves over and over again both in lyrical choruses and in their melody.
“We all live on a yellow submarine”
“Yellow submarine”
“Yellow submarine”
Some new lyrics…
“We all……”
is not that far removed from.
“I want to fly away” x 10-20
“Fllyyyy away” x1
“Yeah” x 3-4
“I want to…” x 20? x 1000? (It all bleeds together for me into endless repetition after awhile)

So great is the focus on lyrics that the melody of their songs is repetitive and predictable(as with nearly all pop bands). The music itself is subordinate to lyrics and showmanship.

I’ve never said anything about ‘shunning’ pop music. Only that it is repetitive and lacks nuance. That it is sorely lacking next to music that is about music first. It spoonfeeds a simplistic(or completely nonsensical) message instead of focusing on the music as the principal conveyor of meaning and inviting the listener to use their imagination. Perhaps its main function is to allow listeners a fulfill a social function because each musician’s cult of personality provides a role model for a certain type of archetype. Thus, skaters listen to skater music, country people listen to country music, young black people listen to rap music, young white people listen to rock. Also, people listen to country because they find the image of down home, hard working, drawling cowboys/girls to be appealing. It’s an image they want to associate themselves with by listening to the music. The white people I’ve known who were really into rap also dressed black and tried to imitate everything black people do. The urban people I know who are really into country are usually political conservatives trying to form an association with true red blooded middle American-ness.
Is this all coincidence or have I noticed a pattern?

>> No.4862083

>>4862081
Extrovert- The meaning and message is assigned from without through cult of personality and archetype associations. The music itself need not be evocative or unpredictable, it is just a suitable delivery vessel for more important socially meaningful content.

Introvert- The meaning and message lies within the music and within the imagination of the listener. It is critical that the music evoke nuanced emotions and perhaps change in mood. It makes little difference if one doesn’t know who the musician is or even what they look like. The music is the content rather than the vessel.

In short: I’ve never said that extroverts absolutely can’t approach popular music on deeper level, rather that their priorities and expectations are vastly different. First, extrovert music is a carrier of social meaning.

>> No.4862085

>>4862083
Looking back on my post I can see that there’s a good measure of anger in my description of pop music. I would even call it a rant.

You must understand that the mainstream music has a deep social meaning for me as well.
It was the tribal music of my childhood enemies.

Worse, I see most pop music as an intruder and a usurper: our music is now handed top-down to us now from a bunch of elite ‘stars.’ It no longer comes from the people. Music used to be everyone’s birthright!

I have chastised those who listen to their music mainly to cash in on some archetypal ‘image’ that fits their demographic. I chastise them because I know the moment their idol goes out of style, they will forget.

Since that music was just a social tool to help them get things they wanted from people, they will dispose of it when it is no longer useful.

We cannot isolate ourselves from the cultural and social meaning of music.
I probably even selected my own music in part as a means of distancing myself and as a gesture of defiance.
We tend to make decisions like these from our deepest emotions and the subconscious. That is precisely why the Loud person audits music preferences. In one question they will find out who you are. In music, the truth. And for the misfit, this is a scary question. Even hesitation tells the questioner far too much.

The most important distinction I am making here:
Would you still listen to the same music if no one else ever knew about it?
Or is it primarily a ploy for ‘friends’ and attention?

>> No.4862087

>>4862057
>>4862060
>>4862067
Pfft sounds like a bunch of special snowflake gobbledygook. Introverts like to think they’re so deep and interesting if only someone could get past their outer layer. Maybe they’re just boring.

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>>4862057
>>4862060
>>4862067
>>4862079
>>4862081
>>4862083
>>4862085

Holy fuck.

>> No.4862336

>>4862079
>Is it just a coincidence that a hugely disproportionate amount of pop musicians are good looking enough to be models
Looks weren't a big deal until the MTV era. The Beatles and Stones were absolutely nothing to look at.

>> No.4862565

>>4856269
street fighter 2
nhl 94
definitely had a Genesis instead of a SNES (mainly because Sega advertised to 'em, pushing sports games pretty hard)

>>4856441
the only thing custom in the Genesis is the VDP, everything else is off-the-shelf or just integrated versions of off-the-shelf components

>> No.4862572

>>4862336
>The Beatles

They were literally the first manufactured pop band. Also men werent completely metro back then, yet.

>> No.4863098

My childhood friend could be defined as a chad, he has fucked too many girls to count and he's fairly popular as well.

He still did play plenty of genesis titles, but sports/racing games were his shit mostly. Though he did like Street Fighter, Mario Kart and Streets of Rage, he was never a fan of anything RPG. Which frustrates him now, because half of the titles coming out now for his PS4 are open world with RPG mechanics. He still does play videogames, but it's usually Forza, Gears of War and the usual EA Sports shit.

>> No.4863116

>>4856269
Dune 1. It was such a snore fest that only chads were able to finish the game.

>> No.4863320

>>4856287
>geeks
You don't know the definition, i see

>> No.4863394

I used to be a chad and I played SMW and SFII before becoming a neet during the N64 era

>> No.4863402

>>4863320
Please tell me you’re not referring to its use when referring to turn of the century circus freaks, you goddamn nerd.

>> No.4863450

Tell me about Japanese chads please.

>> No.4863460

>>4863450
they hardly exist, japan is an island of neets and bishounens

>> No.4863512

>>4862085
Sooooo, you happen to frequent modarchive/modland/nectarine by any chance?

>> No.4863643

>>4863460
I dunno, man.
I heard there are a lot of baseball jocks in the Tokyo area.

>> No.4863645

>>4856269
NBA Jam at the arcades, Madden, Tecmo Super Bowl, Mortal Kombat at the arcades, Street Fighter at the arcades, Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball, NFL Gameday, Mutant League Football, NHL 94, NBA Live, etc.

>> No.4863703

>>4863460
>implying they don't have delinquent Chads

>> No.4863705

>>4856269
Tiger electronics handheld games

>> No.4863724

>>4863643
Arino and Jotaro don't count

>> No.4863729

>>4863724
meant to reply to this as well
>>4863703

>> No.4863873

>>4857323
Day walker

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>>4863460
Takeshi will grab your mom by the pussy.

>> No.4864525

>>4856329
They exploded in that time, but they transitioned from nerd-only to general audience during the mid 90s IMO.

>> No.4864562

>>4857323
There are. Chad is a meme with a nugget of truth don't take it so seriously.

>> No.4864589

>>4856278
Fuckin' kek

>> No.4864609
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>>4862336
Honestly most popular bands are nothing to look at.

>> No.4864649

>>4863098
>half of the titles coming out now for his PS4 are open world with RPG mechanics.
Honestly I would take Gears of War and Forza over middle of the road open world games too.

>> No.4864774

>>4861684
Yeah that style of pop punk had a very specific shelf life from about 1999 to 2004. You had your Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Brand New, etc. Fall Out Boy came in sort of at the tail end.

>> No.4864793

Madden

>> No.4864802

>>4864774
Good Charlotte and Simple Plan were the absolute poster children for those 'wardrobe by hot topic' whiny, mall punk bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOR5gvQwDI

>> No.4864912

>>4861875
>without him there would be no Linux today
And nothing of value would be lost
>FLOSS movement be as big
You mean the effect of EU putting fine of few gorillion dollars on Microsoft in early 00s, enforcing drop of their monopoly on various auxiliary stuff?

If you think Linux survived thanks to random enthusiasts - tough luck. It was bought up almost from the get-go and the only reason why it's free is because it's more profitable this way, since you can then have dozens of companies using Linux internally as a free alternative to any other OS. Never stops to amaze me how people truly believe that Linux is some sort of independent OS and not just another corporate property, just managed differently.

>> No.4865813

>>4862085
After reading all this...

You are seeing that most people really just don't delve into music that much. Its actually pretty hard, even for people who are into multitudes of different genres, to break past the entry-level stuff and find most, or all, of the music that they have been missing that they may like.

So, people with a pretty tertiary interest in music just gravitate towards stuff that is played often on the radio, advertised often, has artists that focus on looks (tons of R&B and hiphop) because they enjoy their looks and not the music itself, etc.

Its really easy to do that instead of actually getting into music, music theory, the reasons why certain cultures' pop is different, all of that. I was recently listening to dangdut, Indonesian pop music, and it is so different due to so many cultural differences. I don't understand the lyrics but the music is structured like ordinary pop but it incorporates a lot of different instruments that you wouldn't hear in American pop at all. Every country identifies with the instruments of their culture; humans are programmed from birth to separate "us from them" and to take pride in the culture that surrounds THEM, rather than cultures from all over the world. Its just in our nature to be, on average, tertiary with the arts

>> No.4865818

>>4864802
Absolutely hate this whiny crap. Only people I knew who liked shit like Good Charlotte, Sum 41 or Blink-182 were chicks and absolute numales.

>> No.4865841

>>4865818
I did and still do like blink. Even though they hit their peak in the early 00s they had been around since the early 90s. Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch are solid 90s skate punk records imo.

>> No.4865864

>>4859204

So i called you idolized man, gay, If you'd slap a mustache on him he'd look like fucking Freddie Mercury.

>> No.4865972

>>4856269
Chad's didn't play games back then. It was an actual nerd hobby back then as opposed to a meme nerd hobby now.

>> No.4866757

>>4865972
>What is Madden
>What is FIFA
>What are fighting games
Keep projecting, mate. Try to hide your embarrassment Chad was better than you in even in vidya, go on

>> No.4866953

>>4856269
Madden 97
NHL 98
NBA Jam

>> No.4866964
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4866964

street fighter II
street fighter II championship edition
street fighter II hyper fighting

>> No.4866967

>>4865841
you were and still are a huge faggot

>> No.4867193

>>4861617
>>4861631
Naw, pop punk is pretty faggy music. You only like because you listened to it as a shithead 15 year old skateboarder who had nothing valuable to do with your time.

>> No.4867212

>>4867193
At least I was outside getting exercise, you dork. I had a trampoline too. The early 00s were the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpjsMnI3htA

>> No.4869008

>>4865972
>Being this delusional

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>>4857064
>Even Biggie
Not unexpected. Black people, including rappers, play fighting games. That's just what they do.

>Scoop a female to the crib good, get my boy to bring a blessin' through
>Sit on the floor and play some Tekken 2
>Lesson two, I'm addressin' you, turn out the lights like the World Class Wreckin' crew, bring out the best in you

>> No.4869247

>>4862057
>>4862060
>>4862067
>>4862079
>>4862081
>>4862083
>>4862085
I just read through this and this is spot on. Especially the parts about introverts. I think too many things, not only music have been turned into social activities.

Also saved.

>> No.4869248

>>4869036
They also like DBZ for some reason.

>> No.4869298

Why in the fuck would anyone play a sports video game and not the actual sport itself

>> No.4869342

>>4869298
>You lack the physical capacity to play the sport.
>You lack the people to play the sport.
>You enjoy the management aspect of the sport video game.

>> No.4869637

>>4865818
>>4865841
The sound of Tom DeLonge's cakeboy voice makes me want to punt him off the edge of a cliff like a baby yoshi. I don't know that I've ever heard a singer whose voice cheeses me off that much.
>>4867193
Yeah, pop punk is queerer than the blazes. It's pretty ironic considering that a lot of the earlier punk bands could have pretty poppy melodies while not sounding so light in the loafers.
>>4869342
I like stuff like Baseball Stars and Tecmo Bowl for being more arcade-style than the real-life games they're based on.

>> No.4869873

>>4869247
Meh. But also >>4862087

>> No.4869887

>>4862087
>Introverts like to think they’re so deep and interesting if only someone could get past their outer layer. Maybe they’re just boring
They are just boring. Source: I'm an introvert.

>> No.4869894

>>4856269
Hexen on a DX4-100.

>> No.4869964

>>4869887
Thank you. Books and music aren’t necessarily more meaningful just because you’re shy.

>> No.4870182

>>4869298
Why not doing both? You are the best footballer in the school and in the playground, so you make sure no nerd can beat you in FIFA, too. Besides, it's fun to roleplay as Ronaldo (the original one)

>> No.4870216

>>4870182
>it's fun to roleplay as Ronaldo (the original one)
The tranny fucker? Sure.

>> No.4870231

>>4869964
>just because you’re shy.

I`m a legit misanthrope, but also socially retarded.

>> No.4870417

>>4870216
>Being this young
>Still posting on /vr/

>> No.4870420

>>4870216
>I'm retarded
Here, ftfy

>> No.4870587

>>4870417
Calling a 30yo young for remembering he fucks traps.

http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-29-a-soccer-star-and-3-tranny-hos

>> No.4870601

>>4870587
Nothing wrong with that.

>> No.4870657

>>4856269
Chad didn't play games back in the day until the ps1 came out and he saw [Sports Game Current Year] on it.

>> No.4871442

>>4861734
>doesn't get tacit admission
>whining about projection
>irony.tiff

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>>4870587
I jested

>>4871442
>Replying to a 4 days old post
Not even him, but holy shit, somone's salty

>> No.4871536

>>4870657
Madden is a predating PSX, mate. And it was literally "For Chad: The Game" ever since the first one.
Seriously, why le ebin real nerd maymay is so obsessed with pretending Chads didn't play vidya, PSX is Chad-only platform and generally your sacred hobby have been contaminated by "normalfags"

Are you all at least semi-aware you are on /vR/, with a R in it? And not /v/?

>> No.4871656

>>4871536
yea bro chad was playing NES and SEGA don't get it twisted

>> No.4871743

>>4871536
Madden was also Dad: The Game.

>> No.4871764

>>4871536
They play games that are more niche than their modern counterparts.

>> No.4871850

>>4871536
N64 was the Chad console of that time because it didn’t have JRPGs that were for nerd faggots.

>> No.4871858

>>4871850
N64 had 4 players too. It was great for having all his dudes over.

>> No.4871864

>>4871850
>>4871858
In the UK, PS1 was the Chad console. Ideal for racing and fighting games after going to the club.

>> No.4871934

>>4871864
Well in the US, it was definitely N64. 4 player sports games, Goldeneye marathons, etc.

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>>4856269
Madden '95 on the Genesis while listening to one of his Jock Jams CDs and drinking Surge.

>> No.4872071

>>4871864
Confirm or deny: Sony has dominated in Europe all these years literally because of FIFA and Gran Turismo

>> No.4872129

>>4871656
>Muh NES
Nobody gave a fuck about NES aside Yanks. And for that matter, same about SNES

>> No.4872138

>>4872129
>Brits think Amiga was actually good

lmfao

>> No.4872143

>>4872071
Deny.
First of all, consoles are weak-ass in Europe, at least as far as /vr/ range goes. Nobody suffered from market collapse, PC market was doing just fine, consoles were often with extra taxes and tarriffs on them, making them even less accessible and in general, console market didn't really pick up until mid 00s.
Sony had the massive advantage over everyone else that they were cheaper in terms of games and better off in terms of customer support. And fighting games. And sport games. And everything looking "adult" thanks to "serious" design in 3D. Nobody plays Gran Turismo here.
Meanwhile Nintendo in Europe has a truly bizzare marketing scheme, so while, say, Germans get full support and everything is tip-top, in the same time France gets shit and they don't even sell in Poland, to the point it's a running joke you need to speak German to call Nintendo support in Poland.
Other consoles simply didn't made it at all in the /vr/ time range.

>> No.4872148

>>4872138
>It's another episode of Americans being unable to grasp situation outside their country
I'm not even Anglo, for that matter. And Nintendo was what you were playing if you were underage, with well-off parents that were eager to buy you expensive toys. Anyone who had to buy their PC or console on their own or get games for them will tell you the same: NES and SNES was a dead-end and often selling a decade-old games costing more than brand new stuff with much more appealing graphics on much stronger machines.
Plus, of course there is the delay of NES reaching Europe at all, so when it entered market, it was antiquated, but oh well, better post some shit about Brits and Amiga, right?

>> No.4872159

>>4872148
This.

I mean is it really so fucking hard to grasp the simple reality Nintendo entered with NES few years too late a market that never suffered the disaster that was the '83 video games crash in the first place? The only reason why NES was successful was lack of competition in States, while in Europe, it had to compete with not only home computer market, but also other consoles, since it was already the tail end of the 80s. All while Nintendo was unable to compete, since they had the highest price on the market. Nobody is going to pay triple the price just for the sake of it, it wasn't Apple marketing to "sell" it as a prestige item.

>> No.4872165

>>4872148
>>4872159
I was just shitposting, Euro bros. As an American, Nintendo’s weird relationship with Europe has interested me for a long time. It’s neat to see it from your perspective.

>> No.4872365

>>4872129
>>4872148
>>4872159
With all that in mind, would you consider the NES and SNES good or bad?

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>>4856290
well you're average nintendo fanboys are low test manchildren.

>> No.4872489 [DELETED] 

>>4872478

They all have the same shitty beard.
Facial hair doesn't make you a man. Or even masculine.

>> No.4872535 [DELETED] 

>>4872478
Nice filename

>> No.4872541

>>4856329
lmao, no.

>> No.4872640

>>4872365
I fail to see the appeal of NES at all, even if timing and different marketing is taken into account. SNES at least had a significant number of decent games, justifying buying it. NES is a massive meme that only worked out due to shitload of circumstances. Otherwise it would fail and fail hard.

>> No.4872657

>>4872640
I was born in 1982 and from America and even I don’t really look back that fondly on the NES. The SNES is where Zelda and Metroid both really hit their stride.

>> No.4872670

>>4872640
If I understand you correctly, you find the NES to be a meme due to lack of a high number of decent or good games for it? What are the few, if any, you find decent or good, and more importantly, how many quality titles does something need for it to be a sensible purchase?

>> No.4872979

>>4869248

because Saiyan's literally shimp out. Blacks only do it figuratively. It's admiration.

>> No.4872981

>>4872979

>shrimp

I meant chimp.

>> No.4873346

>>4872670
Not him, but let's try to explain why pretty much every non-American considers NES a meme console:
>High retail price
>Being on market for ages, despite being dated by '85
>Limited number of games
>Quality of said games
>And their prices
In other words, the quality to price ratio was a joke. For the exact same amount of money you could have few times as much in quantity and after 86 or so, also in quality.
On the other hand, NES eventually did find it's own market in Europe. Famicon clones were super-popular. You know why? Because while they dated and weak, but were also sold cheap and in bulk. You could get one for a proverbial pack of smokes. But since Nintendo wasn't making money on that, they've decided to not support those fledging markets at all nor try to compete with clones. In the end anyone who did own a Famicon clone, has fond memories related directly with said clone and with open admittance it was a cheap-ass substitute for actual console, not to mention a proper, non-Amiga PC

>> No.4873364

>>4856269
Me and my friend were the kids that stayed all night inside playing video games. We had friends that were cooler (girls and guys) that hung out once in a while but not really into video games.

I went to florida one summer and came back with Driver after it just came out. Literally all our friends wanted to sleep over and play it all night running from cops and shit.

Same thing happened with GTA.

So Driver and GTA

>> No.4873396

>>4872071
>Sony has dominated in Europe all these years literally because of FIFA and Gran Turismo
JRPGs, GTA on PS2, survival horror games, and piracy. Every console has FIFA. Nintendo is marketed to children, Saturn was late to 3D, Dreamcast had like 15 games released here, and xbox was late to the party.

360 and PS3 shared like half and half of the market. But the other Sony consoles dominated. PS4 exclusives are carrying the war and they even have indies for the basedboys.

>> No.4873430 [DELETED] 

>>4872478
Bottom rights looks pretty chad, while the others are just nu male cucks

>> No.4873502

>>4873346
Famiclones and carts were great, some of them had tons of games and cool menus. Only problem was that you never knew what you were getting before starting it up.

>> No.4875475

>>4873502
Not the anon you are replying to, but consider this:
Cartridges for Famiclones cost about the same as a pack of bubblegum. Literally. And having a trusted seller on a video market exchage back in the day meant you could get different games rather than being swindled. And if you were swindled, then the price made it meaningless anyway.
Meanwhile, getting either SNES (at least until late 90s) or N64 and handful of games for it meant you might as well assemble a mid-tier PC and enjoy hundreds of games, plus all the other functions PC had to offer. And to not make it sound like some "HURRR stupid Nintendo DURRR" - the same rule applied to pretty much any other console from that period. Those using cartridges made it however considerably more expensive in the long run.

>> No.4875483

>>4856269
Major league baseball featuring Ken Griffey jr.
NFL Blitz
Madden 64

>> No.4875524
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4875524

Britbong here. Never met a chad stereotype, though they do exist.
Fifa is the go to for normies though. Gta was all the kids where talking about like 3 years ago too.

>> No.4875948

>>4875524
You are aware you are on /vr/... right?

>> No.4875957

He didn't. You were playing Atari Jaguar while Chad was laughing about what a fag you are.

>> No.4875958

>>4873502
Adding to what >>4875475 said, I would also like to point out in Europe the difference between N64 and PSX in terms of price was close to nothing, while PSX offered much more "mature" games. Not in sense of being adult-only maymay, but Nintendo had the opinion of pedding games for children, so everyone else aiming at teens had much easier time selling their product. Since there was close to no nostalgia toward Nintendo pretty much anywhere (aside MAYBE Germany, but only to a small degree when compared with States), the price was barely lower than PSX and the games were all considered "kiddie stuff", go fucking figure.
Seriously, Nintendo failed in pretty much all European markets so hard most people are utterly confused why it's so huge in States.

>> No.4875984

>>4856269
My chad friends played Madden and stuck up for me when faggy goth kids tried to fuck with me for being a nerd.

Now I hate goth kids and get along better with chads.

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Brawlers and run 'n guns. Maybe fighting games and early fps games too, but he probably found them too complicated because reasons

>> No.4876008

>>4875997
>Let me make things up, because I never in my life met any Chad

>> No.4876021

>>4873346
>High retail price
NES was under $200. This was expensive in the mid-80s, but far cheaper than a computer in the US.
Most of us didn't have a huge library of games.
>Quality of said games
How are you measuring this? Could you list some games from 1987-1991 that would be superior to:
>Legend of Zelda
>Mike Tyson's Punch-Out
>Super Mario Brothers 3
>Megaman series
>Castlevania
>Tecmo Super Bowl
>Battletoads
And for something like Sega Master System, I don't recall that being much cheaper than a NES in the US.

My family always had PCs and I spent a lot of time playing PC games but never as an effective replacement for a console. There were computer games that could be far more deep and involved, since you could build any kind of game engine you wanted. Flight simulators, strategy games, complex RPGs, and of course first-person shooters all came to PCs first. You had other clever games like Scorched Earth that didn't appear on consoles. But there wasn't anything that really replaced console games for what they were good at: simple sprite-oriented gameplay designed for a hand-held controller.

>> No.4876024

>>4876021
>Post about situation in Europe
>Here, let me refute it by talking about States
You aren't the brightest bulb, are you?

>> No.4876057

>>4856354
Lol

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>>4876021

>> No.4876078

>>4861878
>FIFA99
Please, FIFA peaked at 98, in 99 the real shit was ISS Pro.

>> No.4876082

>>4858409
This man understand the essence of being a Chad.

>> No.4876174

I used to go to a console arcade every week with Chad friends from class (in Eastern Europe) and we would alternate each week the games we'd play. They'd pick games like Tekken 3, Twisted Metal 2, Vigilante 8, Fighting Force, Tony Hawk Pro Skater, International Superstar Soccer, NHL 99, and Gran Turismo. Nintendo 64 wasn't that popular, except to play Goldeneye and maybe Mario Kart 64. Famiclones were only popular with them because their parents couldn't afford anything better. Can't even recall them ever bringing up Mario, Zelda, or Mega Man. In fact, when I did bring up Mega Man I got teased for it relentlessly. Usually they played Nintendo World Cup, Double Dragon, Bad Dudes, and Contra. I'd throw Mortal Kombat into the list as well, but they didn't like playing that with me as much (I knew all the moves). We'd play tournament then pick the "watch all fatalities" reward and switch the game. Around the PS2 era they stopped caring about videogames (I was 11 or 12) and we wouldn't hang out anymore. They went into "gangs" while I stayed home alone playing Ocarina of Time, Super Mario World 2, and Mega Man X.

>> No.4876239

>>4876024
>>4876059
No I want to understand. the posts about the situation in Europe are completely lacking any specifics that would allow me to gain a real understanding. I'm saying "here's what I know and why what you're saying doesn't make sense, help me understand" but of course all you over-sensitive euro faggots can do is get defensive and shitpost in response.

>> No.4876504

>>4861717

no shit its manufactured, but you should be appreciating the audio technician that made the actual track and not whoever's fucking face they plastered as the "artist" of it

>> No.4876552

>>4875997
>arcade and competitive games
So chads were secretly the most hardcore gamers?

>> No.4876581

>>4876504
I appreciate the music itself first, the overall package second. The creator is more of a curiosity. It's not like the people behind the scenes of pop starlets and boy bands are exactly oppressed or upset about their lot in life. I suspect many are quite happy to cash in on the appeal of young and beautiful talents.

If you could be Max Martin or Britney Spears, who would you choose to be?

>> No.4876836

>>4876239
Look, you dense motherfucker. The situation between European and American market can't be compared, because they were working in complete different circumstances. And in your bright idea of learning more, rather than asking clarification questions, you dumped a post about situation in States, after what? Five different anons already explained why it can't be compared?
PC was a CHEAPER alternative to Nintento systems for all the 80s and early 90s. Hell, it was like that until Voodoo accelerators showed up and the PC part market was advancing in such pace your state of the art PC was bunch of crap next year (but that in turn meant the second-hand market was well-saturated, making it cheaper for more sensible people).
All your post added to the whole debate was showing how you can explain time and again to a burger and he won't get any of it, then call you a faggot thanks to own stupidity.
Way to go, Joey.

>> No.4877958

>>4856269
Willy wars

>> No.4878000

>>4876836
>PC was a CHEAPER alternative to Nintento systems for all the 80s and early 90s
What was the cost of a PC?
What specific games could you play on the hardware you paid for?

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>>4856269
Metal Slug

but really i just didnt want to start a new thread to ask this: how the fuck do you balance the free credits in the console version of metal slug? I die really quickly, and the game is obviously balanced around you forking over your entire allowance back in the day, but at what point are you cheating and trivializing death in the game?

>> No.4881363

>>4879285
Neo-Geo consoles only give you 4 credits.