/vr/ - Retro Games

>How uncultured do you have to be to consider this good?
Being someone that plays games for the story

don't be a hater just because you never did anything good and nobody wants you around

it's clearly your own fault and not that of anyone who actually did something

>>4854810
I always heard that it was one of the best visual novels ever made and was told to expect an AMAZING narrative, but when I finally played and beat it, I left feeling that it was kinda bland. 7/10 on a good day.

Also didn't we just have a snatcher thread?

Kojima is a hack

>>4854813
/thread

They get what they deserve. Playing a game and telling a story are fundamentally at odds with one another.

>>4854870
Narrative namers that aren't into other mediums will never get this

>>4854884
gamers*

>>4854860
I mean it's certainly better than J.E.S.U.S.

>>4854810
>I never played this game, but I make bait thread anyway: The Post
It must be sad being you. What next? Policenauts being Lethal Weapon rip-off, because Jonathan has a mullet and Ed is black?

>>4854870
Objectively false, seeing as narrative games not only exist but are mainstream.

>>4855212
>thinking mainstream audiences know shit

>>4855225
Not him, but let me ask you a simple question:
What makes you think you are anything else or better than mainstream audience, you sad, pathetic piece of shit?
Seriously, there is something truly amazing about faggots crying about "le evil dumbass mainstream" while living themselves in some unbacked assumption they are "true" or simply "better", just because they have different type of shit taste.

EVERY taste sucks. Every single fucking one.
But mine, of course. I'm the special guy

>>4854860
I don't think the story is amazing, it's actually pretty standard. What I think the game plays well is presenting a specific atmosphere and an interesting world to explore, even if in such a limited capacity. The music specifically always hits the right notes to puts you in the proper mood. But the narrative arc itself is quite underwhelming, and act three is a big tone shock, doesn't even feel like we're playing the same game.
But alas, I liked the game for what it is, I understand it's not amazing but it hit all the right notes for me.

>>4855231
The next time I have to hear a pop song with the same 3 minute length, structure with shitty repetitive chorus and the same 4/4 time signature just because most people find this appealing to the point of only listening to that I think my brain will explode

>>4855231
You need to calm down, mate.

>>4854810
>blatant plagiarism of Blade Runner

Outside of the Tyrell Pyramid in the intro, and Junker HQ looking the police station (only shown in intro) MC bearing a resemblance to Deckard (visual only) that that it involves killer androids, the work is distinct enough that it falls in the camp of "homage".

I hate when people who never played this game say it's a ripoff of Blade Runner.
The similarities are skin deep and only exist in the introductory sequence.

>>4854870
>>4854884

Why are survival horror games that are on average more story based then other genres and series like Silent Hill so fondly remembered then?

In the future please refrain from sharing your opinion with other people.

>>4854810
I enjoyed it mostly for the art, atmosphere and music. It's a great game to pop in around christmas time

>>4855337
>Argumentum ad populum
Besides, le funny reaction let's play garbage clearly favors horror games

Blade Runner is my favorite movie and this is one of my favorite games.

It's a fun homage to the movie.

>>4855354
Even in more gameplay focused genres like SHMUP's some of the most well liked games are more story based like say Radiant Silvergun and Hellsinker.

Again I get that you probably think you are really smart but I'm telling you, you are not, we actually have examples of games that are fondly remembered for their gameplay and also for their story, no "argumentum ad populum" here.

>>4855354
Also If you think jump scare ridden walking sims invalidate the existence of games like Silent Hill you might actually just be stupid.

>>4855370
He can only invoke "argumentum ad populum" so many times until it becomes clear that he just has shit taste and is a brainlet.

If he even bothers replying with it again thus implying that Silent Hill and Radiant Silvergun are bad games it will only confirm his shit taste brainlet status.

>>4855374
I have a friend that watches streams regularly and he told me he's sick of the RE/SH streams everywhere, and he's a big fan of the games, particularly RE.
This is second hand stuff tho so don't take it too seriously, just saying

>>4854810

yeah, yeah, OP - you're a faggot. We get it. Very good.

Are there any scans of the PAL manual out there? Can't find it for love
nor money.

>>4855401
I would just be happy more people are playing old school survival horror and actively reach out to them and recommend even more old horror games.

>>4854870
Planescape Torment would like to have a word with you.

>>4855447
He probably does'nt even play RPG's since those are just "movie games" too to him. What a brainlet. Literal 20 IQ.

>>4854810
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 it 8/8

>>4855447
>muh purple prose
It would take a novel for said "word" to get out.

>>4855212
This. LucasArts and Sierra point and click adventure games were huge in the 90s.

>>4855245
lol shut up nerd

>>4855354
>Clearly, EVERYONE is wrong
>I'm the only one with real taste and knowledge
Let me guess - you also consider hipsters to be pretentious fuckers, despite being one?

>>4857441
Nice ad populum there boy

Storyfags need to go fellate a shotgun. They are the cancer killing retro gaming.

>>4857478
Too late, it metastasized here

Summer is really in full swing huh

>>4857478
These senseless divisions need to cease. Nothing is killing retro gaming and nothing will, not even our deaths.

>>4855231
You're basically right, and I dislike storyfaggotry.

>>4854810
>blatant plagiarism of Blade Runner
They really don't have that much in common outside of like two visual references. Guy hunting robots in the future isn't that original of a concept and Snatcher doesn't explore what it really means to be human like Blade Runner does. If you think Snatcher is blatant plagiarism I sure hope you never watch Bubblegum Crisis you'd be ripping your hair out at every reference to famous movies that OVA makes.

Westwood's Blade Runner is a bigger rip off of Blade Runner imo, dunno how they got away with that desu

Its Kojima game... after 25 years of his juvenile stories you should know his target audience by now.

Juvenile manchildren who fanatsize at being a SciFi hero. They are the same kind of mouthbreathing morons who like Nolan movies, the most basic, insipid, low common denominator stories to make low IQ individuals feel enlightened.

>>4857787
>>Juvenile manchildren who fanatsize at being a SciFi hero

Right because that's not the kind of thing people play video games for.

>>4857787
....on a forum for retro video games.

gtfo here pretentious twat.

>>4857790
>>4857801

struck a nerve right there... DEATH STRANDING WILL ALSO BE A FUCKING JUVENILE MOVIE FOR RETARDS

>>4854870
>what is metal gear solid, resident evil, silent hill, ace combat 3

play better games you retard.

>>4854810
Why doesnt b.a.t. get more love, if anything i could explore that world and be more intrigued just fucking around than all of snatcher. I do like snatcher for what it is though.

>>4857867
Pulp-grade schlock.

>>4857929
pulp grade a) sells and b) entertains WILDLY, turn down the pretentiousness, games aren't high art, and to devs it's a job, just like however you pay the bills. If you can pump out gaudy thrills and eyecandy, and it sells, who cares?

>>4858014
The point is that they're not quality storytelling.

>>4858018
wrong, the point I was making was that storytelling can, has and is fundamentally integrated into gameplay and they are not at odds at all with each other. Quality and entertainment are vastly different and only overlap at points, i have no opinion to give on quality storytelling, because it's objective.

>>4857453
Must be sad being you

>>4857514
I'm personally surprised /vr/ is affected by summer at all. Guess I've grossly overestimated average age of users

>>4858014
>>4858039
There is such famous saying in my country, that roughtly translates into "Man does not live by Bergman alone".
I don't see a point of adding anything more to that.

>>4854813
>playing a glorified visual novel for the story how do they dare

>>4858737
I mean in general, playing games for that. Particularly when said person doesn't seek stories elsewhere.

>>4858650
>Millions of people agree with my viewpoint; therefore, it must be right.
That's ad populum

>>4858741
Ever occured to you it's no longer ad populum if those people are RIGHT? Instead, you are contrarian if you go against their opinion.
Ad populum happens only if you boast about supposed opinions of the masses, without experessing it nor said masses actually having that opinion. Learn how fucking eristics work, you sad piece of shit.

>>4858754
This was the initial """argument""" against me
>Objectively false, seeing as narrative games not only exist but are mainstream.
And all further attempts at disproving me have been on the angle of popularity instead of arguing why they think narrative games are better.
If this shit doesn't scream ad populum to you then I don't know what is

>>4855212
>>4855337
A game is about a player having choices to make, a story is about telling an account of something specific to convey a meaning. The two are diametrically opposed.

>>4854810
>fondling the panties of a 14 year old girl
>while she showers
man among men

>>4854810
Kojima is the most overrated producer in games

>>4860097
It will be a different time

it looked good