/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[06-17] PSX Doom SFX remaster project in the works
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101057-psxdoom-hq-sound-effects-project-by-triaxis-trevor0402/

[06-17] Cola 3 now with HacX 1.2 support
https://wildweasel.itch.io/cola-3-the-soda-of-style

[06-16] Zombie Jam 2 released for Quake
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61591

[06-11] F2P trial week of Quake Champions available, ends 06-17, but can still be played afterwards
https://quake.bethesda.net/en/news/6vtiowCplmQ66SQKyEGgEu

[06-11] E3: Bethesda announces Doom Eternal, a direct sequel to the 2016 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oVwrpfo_QA

[06-10] Colorful Hell's second beta
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1058613#p1058613

[06-10] MetaDoom to include codex
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1305#p1058266

[06-10] 4th 100-bursh mapping competition for Quake released; requires Quoth
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61587

[06-10] QZDoom updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60838

[06-09] La Tailor Girl update, featuring a new character
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=255#p1058181

[06-08] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[06-07] GZDoom 3.4.0 released
https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/174643966924/link#notes

[06-03] Doom Tournament pre-release; backports UT99 weapons to GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759

[06-03] Golf proof-of-concept mod for Zandronum and (G)ZDoom
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4814363/#4815315

[06-02] Colorful Hell test build release, notably overhauling ammo and pickup drops
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&start=645#p1056959

[06-02] BloodGDX to get multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfBetb4QCI

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Floating meatball incoming

>>4847136
Hellshots Golf got an update >>4845681

>>4847145

So I opened up GMOTA in SLADE. What I want to do is get more blood splatters and have it splatter on the ground too. I opened the blood.txt file in the actors/core directory. I don't know what to change in here. I have zero knowledge of any of this. What does +dontblast mean? Will that do it?

>>4847059

>>4847059

No regrets.

>>4847171
where's the single revenant

>>4847174
Not needed. These archviles die in a single hit, but can resurrect each other.

>>4847158
Dontblast stops the actors from being pushed from the disc of repulsion or anything that calls it

>>4847186
Oh, okay. I'll just close this. I don't know what I'm doing and I might break it if I change anything.

>>4847180
It's needed for comedic value.

>>4847190
What do you mean by splatter on the ground anyway? The blood does that when it hits the ground

>>4847201
I mean leave blood spots on the ground when I kill something. I see blood on the walls if they're killed next to a wall but only rarely on the ground in an open space. I just wanted that to happen more consistently.

>>4847209
Oh yeah that doesn't happen at all with GMOTA's blood. To do that would might either break zandro support or tank performance hard. Both a pretty shitty outcome

Man that PSX Sound remaster has so much potential. I want it now

>>4847171
maybe if they hit you all at once you can reach jupiter

I just played through Quake for the first time.
I think it's great fun. I don't think the gameplay is as solid Dooms, but the level design is a bit more consistently good throughout.
Definitely the best Sandy levels.

>>4847259
Did you play DOPA and the expansions?

>>4847259
>I don't think the gameplay is as solid Dooms
You're right, it's even better. Once you learn to make use of instant weapon switch and all the verticality given by jumping and the level design you'll have oodles of fun, even moreso in player-designed maps created once people had gotten used to this whole 'third dimension' thing and everyone was using a mouse full time instead of that lookspring and arrow keys shit.

How do you guys decide a layout for a level? I spend a couple of weeks trying to figure out one for a level before I finally decided on.

I'm not the only one who has mad maps of their workplace and then filled it with monsters to kill right? haha

>>4847289
Fuck off Kyle and/or Eric

>>4847171
where's the single machine gunner

Any reason why the screenshots I take in GZDoom are so dark? Like, they don't match the in-game brightness at all.

>>4847289
t.

>>4847263
I have not. I was gonna play Arcane Dimensions next.
>>4847274
I don't know. I just don't think it has the great fundamentals of doom. The enemies are good but they ain't as good as the doom bestiary.

>>4847289
>people making maps of their workplaces to play deathmatch with their coworkers (or schools and classmates) on used to be a common thing
>now it gets you put on a list and possibly jailed/had your dog shot

>>4847289
I'm intending to recreate my house in Doom but I'm afraid the spiral stairs will break or prove too difficult to implement in standard doom, I don't know GZDoom builder or trenchbroom

disclaimer: I have never made a single map in my life and have zeeo experience with any map editing tools besides worldcraft

>>4847306
Arcane Dimensions is so fucking good. Be sure to check out "DM4 Jam" and last year's "Map Jam 9" too.

>have downloaded tons of wads and megawads
>every time I play I just pick one and start on a random level and play for awhile
>have never finished any of these wads fully or even evilution or plutonia

Who /can'tstickwithit/ here?

And now I'm stuck
Great

>>4847321
I've never completed Doom 2 start to finish

>>4847327
Neither have I soul brother.

>>4847321
unless it's a gimmick wad, a made-to-look-pretty wad or something very specific, you'll get bored very fast of them if you aren't just palying to kill time

remember that you've played +100 DOOM levels by finishing all the official stuff. that's a lot of times killing the same 10 enemies over and over

>>4847274
Eh. I agree to an extent and I think instant weapon switch in particular is pretty great but I don't know man.

>mfw i think about all of the dev time and money that must have been wasted in doom 2016 making multiplayer only maps, weapons, powerups, and playable monsters, and how badass it would have been to have this content incorporated into singleplayer/ coop modes instead
>And allllll the multiplayer only DLC for a competitive mode no one fucking touched, like good lord they were banking on that shit

Heres hoping they learn from their mistakes in eternal. I would be fine with it not even having competitive multiplayer to be honest, what with QC coming out. Focus on coop and horde modes

>>4847343
>Focus on coop and horde modes
Dude yeah. Night Sentinel mode.

>>4847343
pardon my curiosity but what is that pic from

>>4847343
i agree. the only fun i've had with d44m multi is with friends, and i'm willing to bet that was the case for most.
also it has been a while since i've seen that pic and i still don't know the sauce

>>4847359
>>4847359
Its from a Kim Possible futa comic called Kimcest in which Shego buttfucks Kim and her mom

Its good shit, highly recommend

I will literally suck someones dick if they can update the smoothdoom ketchup patch to work with the newest version of smoothdoom. Right now blood spatters from enemies with blue blood or green blood don't work.

>>4847171
has anyone ever gotten nuts to run smoothly?

>>4847363
heres your answer mate >>4847370

I'm having trouble keeping the BTSX special color pallet when using mods in GZDOOM. Even if I have smooth doom set to do no extra blood gimmicks, the cacodemon blood spurts are still the same colored dark blue. What do?

>>4847370
>western cartoon porn
>any good

>>4847274
>even moreso in player-designed maps
is there a list of good ones?

>>4847383
>>4847370
>>4847343
>>>/anyotherboard/

>Canonically now called 'The Doomslayer'
>Still feel like it sounded cooler in Q3 where he was just called 'Doom'

>>4847392
I prefer Doomguy

>>4847386
go to quaddicted and play everything 4 and 5 star rated
there's a list on func i think about 'good' maps but they're dorks

>>4847392
I don't really love Doomslayer either

>>4847392
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the name Doomslayer sounds dumb as fuck.

>>4847397

>>4847321
who cares? play something as long as it keeps your interest and then move on. if you ever feel like picking it back up it's not going anywhere.

>>4847343
>I would be fine with it not even having competitive multiplayer to be honest, what with QC coming out. Focus on coop and horde modes
This, let QC handle deathmatch, I want sweet coop action in Eternal!

>>4847343
I wonder what they'd do with Snapmap, whether it gets dropped or reworked.

>>4847423
They were talking about unexpected features at E3, I wonder...

>>4847343
>And all the multiplayer only DLC for a competitive mode no one fucking touched, like good lord they were banking on that shit

i played it and while it's not as bad as people say it is i'd never play that shit outside of bot play but at least all the DLC is free now anyway so whatever.

at the end of the day D4T is how doom 4's multiplayer should've been

>i think about all of the dev time and money that must have been wasted in doom 2016 making multiplayer only maps, weapons, powerups, and playable monsters and how badass it would have been to have this content incorporated into singleplayer/ coop modes instead

but they did. most of the content from the competitive multiplayer got incorporated into snapmap.

>>4847403
>>4847406
'Doomslayer' is dumb and for some reason I think nearly all the monsters look funny, like these guys and the Caco's especially.

>>4847319
personally i loved the zer jam, but some of that comes fro my love for the riot-gun

>>4847447
The barons were fine, but that figure looks awful.

doom eternal hopes?
>ammo doesn't disappear after 5 fucking seconds
>you get movement upgrades faster if not right away
playing through nudoom on ng+ is 100x better than first time around

>>4847452
The mini has a butthead and messed up face. the Doom 4 minis in general could be better.

>>4847460
that it's fun and good

>>4847392
Glad I'm not the only one that likes the name of a man to be just "Doom". You think it's lazy but it really is a badass name. He is their DOOM.

>>4847447
They were sorta silly from the beginning. Barons are fine, I just wish they had their loud ass scream.

I wish a lot of the monsters had more characteristic screams actually.
>>4847460
Well, better sounds like I was saying. I want Archie to have his fucking laugh.
Other than that, dunno. Cool enemy patterns and fun bossfights, I want to fight robot dude and his giant hellsword. Also keep the storytelling style, except the cult stuff maybe since everything went to shit

I think a far cornier choice would be to have your guy be named 'DOOM' and then place him in the cover of your game, shotgun in hand, with 'DOOM' in stylized font as he exchanges looks with the viewers. just think about it. anyone who's in the know about the game's story and who DOOM is is guaranteed to enter a giggle fit every time he stares at the cover long enough.

"Pablo is a badass and he killed lots of demons in his wake, he was gone for a while, now he's back."
PABLO FOR PS4. honestly either Doomguy or Doomslayer seem far better choices to me.

>>4847483
>his giant hellsword
You mean YOUR giant hellsword.

>>4847486

>>4847460
I hope VEGA doesn't go the way of Daisy.

>>4847486
I don't get it.

>>4847452
I don't like the nose, makes him seem a bit 'dumber', like literally less intelligent. I also wished the mancubus kept his weird human-like face.

The other monsters I like, but hell didn't feel too interesting. Not sure why. It reminded me of Diablo 3's hell a lot for some reason.

>>4847476
>He is their DOOM.
I was thinking that as well.
>>4847490
Yup yup.

"their", "your". Possesives are powerful

What a beautiful sight. Love this game.

>>4847483
>I wish a lot of the monsters had more characteristic screams actually.

I love the look of the new revenants but I don't like how quiet and slow they are.

>>4847492
a prefix kinda mends that. also helps that Doom has an actual personality and is not a stand-in for the player to fill in on your 60 bucks FPS game. I don't think they're comparable.

>>4847495
They based Hell of of a lot of this guy's paintings, and so it took on a duskier, more amber hue than most hells we've played through. Looks like they've learned from it though. Eternal looks red and bloody and fiery as all fuck.

>tfw no slow and smooth jazz music megawad with colorful maps

How are maps made anyway? Is it all done with a visual version of it there so you can see what you're doing or is it all code?

Where the fuck can I buy just a simple serious sam bomb shirt? Every goddamn store is out of stock. are serious sam shirts that much in demand?

>>4847501
Hexen never gets old to me. There's something so charming about it. Feels great to clobber a load of ettins.

>>4847513
Yep. I suspect they programmed the punching behavior and Ettin health the way they did just so you would always get the satisfying punch, punch, PUNCH combo with them.

>>4847495
It's a weird kinda hell. Hard to make it scary in a way since you're the thing demons fear. You couldn't use Doom 3's hell for example, as good as that was.

I liked it tho, but I like the new direction as well

>>4847486
>PABLO FOR PS4.
imma fix snapmap

>>4847509
>How are maps made anyway? Is it all done with a visual version of it there

Pretty much.
Open up GZDoombuilder, draw lines.

>>4847486
>PABLO FOR PS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59b8J1j5sk

Just wanted to let you know it exists

>>4847495
barons arent really known for their intelligence. High on the demon peking order, sure, but its more because of their size and strength. Theyre battering rams made out of flesh and blood.

>>4847504
>dukes playing it cool
>sam and wang are having fun
>bj is filled with stoney determination
>doomguy is about to snap his controller

hmmmm yes perfect

>>4847383
a vintage meme, though the truth is western art vastly surpassed nippon long ago

>>4847397
>>4847403
>>4847406
>>4847476
>>4847392
Doom is a much better name. Its like having a character called 'Despair' or 'Terror.' And then finding out that he was given that name BY DEMONS. You dont fuck with that guy.

>>4847539
why are they frenching

>>4847546
>he doesn't make the boss enemies kiss each other into submission
why do you even play video games?

Concept: ice/fire enemy types that either spawn off water/lava liquid textures or die if they touch the wrong liquid textures

>>4847249
wouldnt work sadly. A_VileAttack sets momz to 1000/mass (10 for a player) - it doesn't add on. so if 10000 archviles all hit you simultaneously you'd still only get 10 units vertical momentum. you'd need to stagger the hits, one every 10 tics.

Kinda disappointed that Scythe 2 episodes are all only five levels long, I already miss the Egypt levels, almost as much as I miss the Gothic ones.
If there's an upside at least, I only have five levels of boring technobase to slog through.

How hard can I expect the later episodes to be, if I barely managed to scrape through all of Scythe 1 on UV?

>>4847729
anon, everyone knows the only way to reach jupiter is via an army of angry martians

>>4847135
When does Brutal Doom v21 come out? The full release I mean.

>>4847171
>skillsaw's latest map

does quakespasm have a speedometer?

yay

>time 30:30
>par time 2:30

Damn, thought I was better at this.

>>4847209
You mean like in Brutal or Ketchup?

That isn't a decal like you see on wall surfaces, that's achieved by laying out a flat 3D model with assigned graphics, it's essentially a dirty workaround to achieve something that GZDoom wouldn't normally allow.

Now, this can look very flashy and nice if done right, like a big scorchmark after a big, nice, fat explosion (add some lingering flames, debris, and pillars of smoke, etc, it'll look fucking tits), in BD it's also used to put blood decals on floors and ceilings.
The big problem is that though these are all extremely flat and simple models, they use a LOT of memory, based on how GZDoom just works.
On a middle of the road laptop, GZDoom's default value of allowing 4000 wall decals at a time (blood stains, bulletholes, scorchmarks), works fine, you won't notice a performance drop unless you jammed like a thousand on one small spot and looked up close. On the other hand, if you have just 1000 flat model 'pseudo decals' in a map, that REALLY eats into GZDoom's performance.

>>4847787
Another issue is that these just break easily.
Maybe this changed in more recent updates, but if you applied these model decals to like crushers or elevators, they'd remain static in spite of floor or ceiling movement.
They would also tend to just overlap with stairs and ledges, which could look VERY goofy.

>>4847259
In Quake, Sandy Petersen really came into his own.

>>4847274
I think you have some very solid points, but I also don't think there's nearly as many amazing playermade campaigns as for Doom.
Also, with GZDoom, you can add a lot of those features onto Doom.

>>4847797
Quake gameplay modding peaked in the 90s, meanwhile Doom's modding is pretty much still on an upwards trajectory.

A lot of that's down to ease of modding.

Surprised CH doesn't have a variant capable of spawning black/white monsters
Also, if the Baronmissile bug fixed?

>>4847383
You're making me cry, anon.

>>4847787
Oh, okay. I didn't know about any of that with the floor and walls being different. I was thinking more along the lines of Metadoom with the little blood spots you see on the ground after killing something with a shotgun. That must be a model with transparencies. I noticed Brutal had to be something like that because if something dies on stairs it leaves a blood pool that sticks out into thin air.

>>4847263
>>4847306
DOPA is trash and the expansions aren't good either.

Beyond Belief and Gotshun's Lost Levels are way better episodes and closer to the stock levels in quality. Also, czg's Ceremonial Circles is probably the best single map release.

Not a big fan of Arcane Dimensions, by the way. It has a few amazing levels but most of them are tedious and have too much filler in between encounters that are actually exciting and memorable.

>follow john romero on twitter
>my timeline suddenly has a bunch of political bullshit retweets/liked posts by him

>>4847817
Oh, did you mean like a whole pile of regular small sprite actors? Those don't have those mentioned issues, really.

>>4847824
>twitter

>>4847370
Please raise your standards.

>>4847383
There's lots of it.

>>4847826
Yeah, I like the way Metadoom does it a lot better than the way that ketchup/brutal do it. It fits the game's aesthetic better in my opinion. If I could somehow get that in GMOTA I'd be in heaven.

>>4847383
Shitweeb detected.

>>4847827
What?

>>4847830
It shouldn't really be difficult to like make a patch of that.
You could probably just like tweak up NashGore or something.

>>4847831
Anon is a faggot, but there's nothing wrong with being a weeb.

>>4847823
That screenshot makes my dick tingle.

>>4847343
>all those amazing looking maps
>no single player expansion
why?

>LegenDoom 2.0
>weapon switches to fists after dropping current one, no option to change this behavior

What the fuck

>>4847392
we can still call him doomguy
the uac call him the doom marine and the demons call him doomslayer

>>4847848
Also,
>pressing fire closes the legendary weapon pickup pop up

WHY

Is there a version of Strange Aeons that's "vaccinated" like Valiant was?

>>4847343
Doom 4's multiplayer, while lackluster, did have a lot of really good assets that I think could have been amazing in singleplayer, so yeah, I'm hoping some of that gets reused for Eternal.

>>4847392
>1, 2, Final, most of the pwads
Doomguy

>3
MARINE!

>64, 4, Eternal
Doomslayer

Works for me.

>saturnine chapel's graphics are so sick I can't even run it

Has anyone ever tried to remake those TF2 Mario Kart maps in Doom?

>>4847145

>>4847823
you have a bad opinion but I will respect it.

>>4847823
I agree with everything you posted except that the expansions are not good. I'd say after playing through the base game, the expansions should come next, then the stuff you posted which is all top shelf stuff. Then AD eventually.

>>4847892
Truly deserving of a plaque on all of our walls, next to the Impse Statue.

I'll be honest I didn't like the idea of a mod with modern FPS features.
But Project MSX is freaking amazing, it's well balanced, the sprites and animations are great. Bless that anon who made that update.

>>4847915
what update lad ? link me that shit

>>4847915
What update?

>>4847913
>uncle's here!
>happy birthday sweetheart. have a severed demon head.
>carla.
>every single time.
>alright, time to cut out some cake slices!
>I'm on it.
>your uncle is way cool...
>yes, yes he is.

>>4847913
>>4847945
> tfw no cool doomguy uncle

>>4847854
because shit gets in the way during fightign and there's a menu to check your legendary shit.

>>4847887
It's also a bit glitchy with some mods and source ports, sometimes completing itself when you get near the start of it.

>>4847136
Legendoom updated to 2.0 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51035

>>4847890
>Mario Kart
>Doom
>Vietnam flashback noises

what doom wads and mods should i play before article 13 prevents me from probably playing those ever again?

>>4847259
For some genuine insanity, try MadFox's Abandon episode.

Boy, does it scratch that particular Petersen itch, Jesus Fucking Christ. Actually, no, it's not Petersen-esque, it's un-everything, it's One Giant Episode Fucking Five, it marches to its own tune playing in its head only - and that's IT.

>>4848052
grezzo 2.

>>4847781
106% certain

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=60697
Oh shit I didn't realise Interstellar Enforcer has a demo now

I'm playing Ultimate Torment and Torture for the first time and this is pretty good for the most part. Some sections have way too many enemies though. I'm even playing on the easiest difficulty because I'm a complete shitter.

>>4847823
What are you smoking? DOPA and the expansions were fine.

Also chronoteeth made a cool little guide about weapon feel back at the start of the month. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=60751

>>4847823
>>4847306
>>4847263
Yknow Everyone seems to say DOPA is trash but I sure as fuck had fun playing it, over and over again like 3 or 4 times too. The reason is because im not a map maker and im not criticising the map progression - im looking at the Detailing and the gimmicks involved.
> the use of shamblers and fiends
> that grinder that moves around in those tunnels and destroys the zombies as you run from it
> those laser traps that do 60 damage a pop
> navigating and hiding in the cozy spaces with all those crates in the first or second map
> those deadly crusher walls that very satisfyingly pulp the death knights

Some parts like the slaughtermapping with all the grunts and enforcers was shit. And the non-shub ending was shit.

Generally speaking I Loved it.
I wish there was a 2nd one, or that it had more maps.
More of this = Yes.

>>4848105
What's that weapon mod he's got with the SPAS-12? I want that shit. I want it bad goddammit.

>>4847848
>>4847854
>>4847993
They could've fixed this the way I forsaw the problem, you A_Selectweapon on a likely alternative or follow up weapon to the one that was just dropped or lost.

Maybe in the Deselect states check if the player still has the weapon and if they dont then select a weapon for them instead of just picking the fist.
> Ie, Rocket Launcher should go to SSG, if the player doesnt have SSG go to Chaingun, if the player doesnt have Chain go to Shotgun, then Pistol.

You could have a dummy CheatNotWeapon which is given, then goes through that routine, and then in its own deselect state takes itself away.

>>4848103
Not that anon, but

DOPA is unimaginative remix of ep1-4 with superficial "le professionale levele-designes" bells and whistles the point of that it gives you, in progressively more explicit manner, less space, less health, less ammo, than was given to you in corresponding situations from the main game. Like, that concerns the old maps from that dude as well. It's like they were made by some deathmatcher boasting, through all those self-restrictions, just how much of a hot shit he was.

Anyway, the point isn't that DOPA is much tougher specifically towards its end than any of the original episodes were, and that you are very likely to end up with axe only in the final shamblers fight the first time around due to absolutely no ammo. Point is, even fucking Willits' maps are more varied, imaginative and novel, than DOPA is.

Also, original 4 episodes were perfectly playable keyboard only, while DOPA just isn't. Which would be fine and dandy if not for claim for being an official episode 5 to the game.

>>4848112
I think he made it himself as an example?

>>4847932
>>4847936
It's a revamp made by an anon.I had to dig in the threads from last year.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/f4ncdbbd451g5aq/projectmsfixd_v10b_061217.pk3

>>4848117
>the point of which is that it gives you

>>4848117
>Also, original 4 episodes were perfectly playable keyboard only
Nobody plays Quake with keyboard only. What a dumb fucking complaint.

>>4848132
However, at the end of the day, it neither looks or plays classic.

>>4848117
That could be summed up as a "dare", something like "Remember that setup from that level back then? Imma gonna do it with my eyes closed. Now this setup from this level? Gonna tie down my left arm, yup, will still manage. Are good enough to compete with such fucking skill?"
And it's, just, "The point being? What do I get in return?"

>>4847768
no

>>4848117
>muh keyboard only

>>4848152
>auto-aim on by default

>>4847945
>>4847913
Wait a fucking second, I'm a comic letterer. I can totally edit that comic (in a good looking way and not with Comic Sans in Paint).

Gimme an hour or so and I will post the translated version.

>>4847797
>Also, with GZDoom, you can add a lot of those features onto Doom.
you mean you can add kludgy half-finished versions of some of those features onto doom

>>4848097
Bob please put the gun down

>>4848178
> "pretty good"
> not for long
> "leave"
> the fuck you think you're going

>>4848153
>first thing you'll see when you start the game is 3 opening demos of Romero playing the game with the mouse

>>4848103
>>4848110
wait there's expansions to DOPA?
where?

>>4848117
the fuck if I care if its unimaginative, there were some cool situations in there and whatever they did to tweak maps compared to the original style it was a dramatic improvement

>>4848132
the lack of a peripheral for playing games, being forced to use only the keyboard, was always an undersight on the part of the player typically due to being a poorfag, having a shit configuration where you couldnt bootdisk with the mouse enabled, or
> mfw I was a teen my dad bought me a wacom tablet with a 4 button Puck, the stylus was useless though because of tech limits and had no pressure setting

>>4848212
No, the expansions to Quake (Armagon and DoA), you fool.

>>4847151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bTpp8PQSog

>>4847190
>I might break it
Copy and paste the PK3, and edit THAT version of it. If you break anything and can't figure out how to fix it, delete your new PK3 and copy and paste the original, then edit the NEW new pk3.

That's a good way to get a handle on modding, honestly. It lets you experiment in a safe environment.

>>4848097
I can't say this starting mission isn't pretty, but I'm feeling like the areas are *too* open, though. a lot of shooting enemies from far away and running out of ammo because the pickups are hard to see in the fog.

>>4848197
Seriously, they didn't have vertical aiming because renderer can only render what amounts to a 2-point perspective, so it'd look crappy if you could look up and down. Try looking up and down using a software renderer.

By the time Heretic rolled around, they realized that they can use y-shearing to have that effect as long as you make sure that view won't look obviously distorted if camera won't go too far up/down, so they added that in.

>>4848246
Like the ranged enemies have a chance to drop health and ammo, but I didn't know that because you fight them from far away and the pickups are fucking tiny, I mean look at this.

>>4848246
Now thats a niec looking map. Not because of the marble effects, but just in general, sorta reminds me of the local mall.

>>4848253
I have considered the idea that Zombies can become Imps due to the demonic possession if they're allowed to survive long enough, and they'd have no use for their items but not not bother dropping them.

>>4848249
You probably haven't noticed, but we were talking about Quake, not Doom. What you just said has nothing to do with this game.

>>4847892
DSDMPAIN

>>4847913
Is this made by ZenPencils?

>>4848105
About time, some people can't animate weapons for shit.

>>4848261
Huh?

>>4847330
We're now a trio

This Legendoom update is pretty great

>new dmc coming out
haha, time to demonsteele

at the tune of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6GC5NtuAg

>>4848117
>Also, original 4 episodes were perfectly playable keyboard only
That's also a beyond shit way to play Quake.

I really don't think "playable on keyboard only" is a worthwhile metric for any kind of Quake content.

>>4848153
Or it's 1996 and you could go get a mouse.

>>4848284

>>4848284
perhaps it should be news posted?

>>4848298
It makes you feel much more constrained, but, strangely enough, that kind of fits the game.

Basically, I though of it this way. I could've played this game as a really basic and primitive mouse-based FPS game. OR I could've played this game as a pinnacle of 1993-1996 era in shooter games, basically as an apex of 2.5D shooters (despite being 3D).

I preferred to play it as an apex of old-shooters, rather than as a proto-nu-shooter.

And I'll repeat myself. The original campaign is VERY much playable keyboard-only.

>decide to check quack manual for shits
>slope jumping is actually mentioned in the manual
This is fucking with my head something fierce.

>>4848323
It just released like a few hours ago.

>>4848336
>OR I could've played this game as a pinnacle of 1993-1996 era in shooter games, basically as an apex of 2.5D shooters (despite being 3D).
that's just insulting to quake and everyone who worked on it

>>4848351
Playing it on hardware that was becoming obsolete, in terms of control scheme it provided, by the time the game was released, isn't insulting to either the game or its creators, in my personal opinion, in any conceivable way. Conversely, that's some actual respect on my part. Way more respect, than, say, launching glQuake, while clawing a laser mouse (or are you playing Quake using a ball one? I highly doubt that, to be quite honest) and trick-jumping straight to the exit while circumventing 90 percent of the level.

>>4848336
>I preferred to play it as an apex of old-shooters
You know that Wolf3D and Doom were meant to be played with mouseturning, right?

If you like keyboard only as some sort of handicap, sure, whatever, there's some talented speedrunners out there who do keyboard only, and seeing their demos is stunning, but don't pretend that it's the truly oldschool way to play, because that was never iD's intentions, keyboard-only was always a concession for players who lacked normal means.

>>4848197
Let's not forget, that, by default, without console """wizardry""" in order to have mouselook, you needed to constantly hold down a dedicated key/button for it.

>>4848239
I don't know anything about it. All I managed to do was go down to blood scale and change it from 1 to 2. That made it bigger but I'd like to do more. I thought to myself, hey I'll open up Metadoom and just copy the blood file over this one to replace it. Well that can't be done, there's no blood.txt, just a gore folder with lots of stuff in it that I don't know shit about. I'm retarded.

>>4848393
Not that I remember, I played it with the original .exe a while back and I had no problem doing mouselook.

>>4848392
I don't recall claiming that keyboard-only is the ONLY CORRECT WAY POWERS THAT BE INTENDED. And yes, at the end of the day, this is simply my personal preference.

However, don't you think, that if a piece of Quake content gets described and positioned as classy, and as a throwback to ye olden times (moreover, to Quake's singleplayer specifically), then it would make at least some fucking sense for said piece of Quake content to be more or less keyboardable, well, seeing that the main sources of inspiration for said piece of Quake content were perfectly keyboardable on Nightmare? And that doing otherwise (all the while explicitly invoking nostalgia card) has some more than slightly revisionistic overtones to it?

>>4848403
Options -> Customize Controls -> Mouse Look

>>4848406
>then it would make at least some fucking sense for said piece of Quake content to be more or less keyboardable, well, seeing that the main sources of inspiration for said piece of Quake content were perfectly keyboardable on Nightmare
Most people don't know that because nobody fucking plays Quake that way.

If people want to play mouseless then let them.
If people want to KB+M then let them.
In the end we both have the same goal of pumping hot lead into the enemy.

Legendoom says it is compatible with colorful hell but no matter what load order I try i dont get colorful monsters if i load both legendoom and colorful hell together

>>4847829
>he doesnt like Darkdp

how did you even find the internet

>>4848432
Works for me

>>4848440
wtf am i doing wrong? I've tried it like this and with colorful loaded second and it doesn't work.

>>4848441
not sure if it matters but normally, i load colorful hell after the other mod i'm playing with

>>4848447
re-read my post

>>4848117
>>4847823

>>4848441
Is it giving you any specific errors? I tried loading it up myself and it ran fine.

>>4848448
oops sorry

>>4848453
There are no errors when I load it up, nor any red messages in the loading box before the game starts proper.

>>4848406
Please stop typing like you're a goddamn encyclopedia to make yourself look smarter.
> then it would make at least some fucking sense for said piece of Quake content to be more or less keyboardable, well, seeing that the main sources of inspiration for said piece of Quake content were perfectly keyboardable on Nightmare
Just popping in here to say that Nightmare is easier on keyboard than Hard is because the enemies move around so much less.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd the sound seems underwhelming tho, even when you get the chaingun version

UDMF SUCKS

>>4848436
I'll never get people who jerk off to stylized American cartoons with noodlearms, hard edges and stick figure proportions.

Raise your standards.

>>4848470
Go to your room.

>>4848472
t. weeb who only jerks off to stylized Chinese cartoons with dinner plate eyes, soft edges and pedophile proportions

>>4848472
>>4848475
What Doom WAD are you guys talking about?

>>4848481
Remember those .wads from the 90's when a dude would just replace all the sound effects with audio rips from The Simpsons? Imagine that except he's just jerking off to it instead.

>>4848472
>shitweeb talking about standards

LOL

>>4848470
I doesn't /suck/ but there isn't a good interface for editing it yet. Even GZDoombuilder is cumbersome when working in UDMF.

Taking advantage of a lot of its features is time consuming and sucks a lot of the joy out of mapping.

We really need a better interface for it.

>>4848157

reportado por intento de apropiación cultural

>>4847813

killing that demon with your dick I pressume

>>4848105
Never liked his mods or his animations, so the fact that he's using himself for reference feels incredibly wanky.

>>4848117
>DOPA is unimaginative remix of ep1-4 with superficial "le professionale levele-designes" bells and whistles
what the fuck even is this sentence

>>4848486
>>4848475
There is literally nothing wrong with being a weeb.

>>4848591
What points are wrong? You want weight to your animations.

>>4848594
I know right?
Dopa was dope.

>>4848406
No, it wouldn't make sense.
What makes sense is using the control scheme intended by developers without feeling any kind of a twisted and bizzare shame about it.

>>4848627
I didn't find DOPA amazing or anything. I thought it was good, I gladly enjoyed it.

>>4848636
So, holding/releasing a dedicated key in order to switch between mouse-turning and mouse-look then?

>>4848450
uhh that was confusing, i thought i'd closed those tabs when the matches had ended.

>>4848645
Oh yeah, all the while using ball mouse.
Naturally.

DOPA isn't shit because muh keyboard controls, which I find to be a baffling criticism because it has some of the most 2D encounter designs. It's like a Quake episode for Doomfags. It's shit because the maps have extremely little variety and creativity in level progression or encounter design. There's like only two encounters in the episode where something actually surprised me, the shambler ambushes in the sewer and the ambush while you're on the moving platform over lava. Most encounters in the episode are forgettable and tedious "kill these 4+ death knights in this basic ass square room". That's only tolerable if you've been playing shitty ass Doom megawads (which have too much filler as they all do) for too long.

What's going on with this?

>>4848656
Arcanedimensioner?

How many women play old school fps' so far I've only met one and I'm 99% sure shes autistic as fuck

>>4848157
>>4847945
>>4847913
There. "Roger that" was originally "I'm on it" but I though military lingo (get it, because he's a Marine?) would be funnier.

>>4848656
> tries to leave level, the stairs are in ass poor shape with all sorts of holes in them, have to jump on a piece of stair still jutting out of the wall to get up to the top
Holy shit 2 Shamblers
> the high ground meme isnt even a meme
> ohthatsright.exe
> grenades dont work so well against shamblers

You're blind.

Anyone else ever get this bug in GZDoom Builder where if you lower the brightness in 3D mode past a certain amount random walls/sidedefs wil just go pitch black? If so how do you fix it?

version i'm using is in pic related, map was set to boom format, gpu is an RX 460

>>4847945
>>4848157
>>4847913
There, an English version.
Also I waifu'd it because original was really tiny and super JPG artifacted.

>>4848670
Out of all the maps Arcane Dimensions has only like 5 of them are good
Metal Monstrosity
The Horde of Zendar
The Sepulcher
The Ogre Bastille (E2M2 remix, hard to fuck up perfection)
Crucial Error (inb4 butthurt tfumafags claim their shit techbase map is better -- it's not, it's a tedious gauntlet of repetitive arena-style encounters)

>>4848687
thanks i like it

>>4848693
> thinking the horde of zendar is worth putting anywhere else but the trash
And you forgot foggy bogbottom

well, so i studied the way of the doom multiplayer, but i still don't get a few things.
Apparently i need to do this "port forwarding" thing to set servers. Is it really necessary? i only want to play with friends, or the occasional deathmatch with you cunts. Or just using TSPG service is enough?

What if there was a wad where every map had a voodoo doll on a damaging floor so it was a race to get to the exit as fast as possible

>>4848718
You only have to use TSPG since they host the server for you. Port forwarding is when you want to host the server on your own computer.

>>4848693
I wouldn't call E2M2 a perfection to be quite honest. I think it's just Romero trying to imitate Willits for some reason or another?

>>4848723
Then it would suck.

>>4848732
Meh, I can imagine it being fun. Not the type of thing everyone would want to play all the time, but more like an interesting gimmick that'd be fun for some short maps.

>>4848693
>(inb4 butthurt tfumafags claim their shit techbase map is better -- it's not, it's a tedious gauntlet of repetitive arena-style encounters)
>implying implications
terror fuma blows cruical out of the fucking water and is anything BUT a gauntlet, it has imaginative design and a neat environmental twist on techbase especially with the grunts fighting the other enemies spawning in as well as the player and the flow from outside to inside and back feels natural
crucial feels just like fucky buttbottom but with techbase instead of wizard- the interior part of the map and the exterior feel so disconnected it's hard to remember they're the same map, a bunch of mindless wandering to find a key that just spawned in that wasn't there the first 5 times you passed that hallway, the author pissing on the player by giving weapons/powerups after they're useful and making the message taunt them about it, and everything is draped in FUCKING GREEN FOG EVERYWHERE

>>4848760
also: metmon and zendar aren't originally AD maps, and necromancer's keep is fucking ace and if you don't like it then get out of my face

bump

>>4847382
bump

>>4848656
I liked DOPA but it's true it's 1) very flat overall, and 2) lacking spice with enemy encounters past the second map or so.

Imps, sergeants, and grunts are my favorite enemies. I would be completely satisfied if a map only contained them. It feels good to kill them in one shotgun blast. I love it.

>>4848801
>killing crowds of zombiemen, sergants and imps with the RL

>>4848801
Yeah, they're pretty great.

It isn't exclusive to these, but Double Impact really makes good use of them.
Zombiemen, especially with shotguns, just roaming freely, that's tense.

>>4848253
Dev here. I know its late, but I want you and others to know that I read this shit. Bigger, more readable pickups are on the todo list.

>>4847135
Version 0.1 of Zrift-Chasm in Doom has been uploaded
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60811

>>4848117
whatever mane its a free bonus episode. good to do in a full playthru before shrubguarath or whatever its name is

I have determined that I am not quite hardcore enough for Nightmare mode.
In Knee-Deep in the Dead, I can manage through the first two levels, but simply cannot work my way through Toxic Facility. There's just too much shit in the way.
Furthest I got was reaching the keycard. Can't seem to make it back without the respawned hitscan enemies tearing me a new ass.
Anyone else try this shit? How far did you get?

>>4848825
Neat

>>4847741
i think easier. map30 on scythe 1 is definitely harder than scythe 2's

>>4848095
113 now

>>4848837
nowhere at all, i've never bothered with nightmare mode. i am led to believe by reliable sources that E1 is one of the harder things to do in nightmare because of all the bullet tracers, and if you want to do an episode in nightmare you are better off trying to do E3. but i can't confirm this from my own experience.

>>4848909
uh, 118 even.

>>4848917
and map11 is even worse

>be me
>Play DF II: Jedi knight as child but it's buggey and I can never get it to work long enough to make it very far
>After years of trial and error of trying to get it to work say fuck it and get a copy on steam
>Manage to get it to work flawlessly
>Tear through the game and enjoy every bit of it
Why did Lucas arts have to fail? DF I and II alone are amazing

>>4848470

>>4848823
You got some good shit there. I'm usually not a fan of huge Doom levels but this one is the exception.

I'm not the only one who fell off this fucking staircase on the first playthrough of Scythe 2 right?

>>4848996
Was there a secret to the left of there with a jump or something? Because I sort remember dying to that
Otherwise no lol

>>4847370

>fap fap fap

does she have a dick or what?

>>4849013
i hope so

>>4848996
Health and safety would do them up a treat for the lack of a handrail straight into lava.

>>4848450

doomball mod when

>>4849020
Kicking around a tiny inflatable caco?

>>4848647
Of course! It's not like mouselook could ever be default in a 3D Doom clone.

Speaking of mouse, it is optimal if it's color is white.

And don't forget to run the game on a IBM PC with Pentium CPU with Windows 98 OS. Else you're commiting an act of revisionism.

>>4849023
YES.
The issue would be the physics of the ball.

>>4849023

>>4848527
I was trying to make a better editor for UDMF a few months ago but I stopped when I realized I had to implement an algorithm for drawing sectors. Merging concave polygons isn't trivial and I didn't really have the time to go and dig through DB/SLADE code to see how they did it. If anyone is good at geometry and can give a rundown of how to do this then I'm all ears, otherwise it will be on the backburner for a while longer.

>>4849031

~/PlaytimeIsOverMotherfucker.tiff

>>4849031
how DARE you

I'm trying to make a flying monster in Decorate (using +Float and +NoGravity) but it won't actually fly around unless I spawn it higher than the floor. And when I spawn it higher than the floor, it then won't fly below the height it spawned it at. Any help with this? I want it to just fly around normally like a caco does.

>>4849027
>Of course! It's not like mouselook could ever be default
True. It's not. You are actually meant to continuously hold down a dedicated "Mouse Look" button in order to have mouselook on.

>start playing Hexen:Beyond Heretic for the first time
>up on a really high ledge with 30% health
>only played doom so forgot fall damage was a thing in vidya
>die
im not even mad just disappointed

>>4849171
Such is life in the HEXEN Zone.

a beefy boy

I can't believe no one has pointed out the OP image should be "The Quadfather"

>>4848961
the fact that you got a retro game from steam to work at all is a miracle.

then again i dont know if the Q3 engine has many problems on modern systems

>>4849013
do you not know what the word futa means bruh

>>4849171
>start playing Heretic
>MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES AND CONSTANTLY OUT OF AMMO
>stop playing Heretic

well it sounds like you had a better time than me

>>4849282

I didn't want to know

>>4848825
Sweet!

Beautiful Doom really is trash, wow

>>4849109
I'm not too familiar with editing doom monsters, but couldn't you just steal the code for a cacodemon and put your own stuff on top of it?

>>4849282
>running out of ammo in Heretic
That's possible?

>>4849486
Why?

>>4849498
Not that guy and I don't even agree with him for the most part (Heretic is not particularly hard to navigate through), but the game does get a bit happy on the flying imp spam at times. Thankfully it isn't too hard to kill them with the staff.

>>4849282
>MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES MAZES
Seriously?

>>4849385
These alien things are cool.

>>4849498
The expansion levels are pretty ammo-scarce

What wad perfectly captures the feeling and atmosphere of waking up with an itchy dick?

>>4849557
Plutonia. Easily.

>>4849486
>not using Smooth Doom

>>4849508
The effects are ugly and the sound design is terrible. Ricocheting bullets alone makes me want to kms
>>4849570
I was just trying it out, I like SD better yes, for the most part.

>>4849527
The shading in general is really nice on those models.

>>4849578
Try Perkristian's sound effects too.

>>4849596
They come with SD now

>>4849597
Oh, I didn't know that. Cool.

>>4849597
You're full of shit.
Right now, I'm looking in the PK3 for Smooth Doom, which I only downloaded a couple of days ago, and the only sounds in there are for shell casings and liquid splashes.

>>4849617
Man I didn't lie on purpose.

Yeah they're mentioned on their zdoom thread but they don't come with the mod, my bad.

What can I change in GZ Doom to eke out the best performance I can? There are so many options I don't know what to mess with. Dynamic lights off is a given.

>>4849671
You don't play wads like nuts.wad or anything like it. If you're trying to play something that shouldn't be that intensive try checking if it works on another sourceport. GZDoom is known for being a shit port if you have a toaster.

>>4849675
Ah, yeah I just want to play Ultimate Torment and Torture and it chugs a bit. I don't know if that's known for being a toaster slayer or not.

>>4849679
In general basically any map with too many sectors/linedefs will slow GZDoom to a crawl, the slopes are also unoptimized to an extent as well.
Ultimate Torment and Torture is a Tormentor667 map and all of his maps have a shitload of sectors/linedefs/slopes, so it might get laggy a bit.

What was your reaction when you found out Dopefish actually existed?

>>4849747
swim swim hungry
stupid fish.

>>4849749
yeah exactly

Kegan, I need the Combined Arms and GMOTA updates and I need them now. I need them injected right in with an IV drip. I've got to have it. I've got to.

>>4849761
Working on it. I finally figured out what the fuck I'm gonna do for a reload animation for the plakanomicon. Once I get this update I'm headed back into GMOTA to start working on the robot mans.

This reload animation isn't gonna look very good but whatever, I think it'll suffice.

>>4849761
But...GMOTA just GOT an update you, armless numpty.

>>4849763
Doomguy's brown gloves always made me think he just had really loose skin.

>>4849747
he lives

>>4848687
You are doing Romero's work, bro.

>>4848275
Dunno.

>>4849031
That does look like a Doomguy stomping on a Caco. And gibbing it. Even the colors are right.

>>4849557
Huh? Do you have like lewd bugs in your bed or something?

>>4849772
dopefish lives
as dunkleosteus

>>4849795
>>4849031
BAN THIS SICK FILTH
doom hadeslife documentary when

>>4849809
It's not illegal if it's for self-defence.

>>4849825
>self-defense
>murdering innocent cacodemons
pick one

>>4849809

>>4849809

>>4849851
gee thanks boss

>>4849845
The fuck you want me to do?
Just LET them try to eat my face while shooting fireballs at me?
Fuck that.

>Got a map to be making and several fairly vanilla/plain WADs to play on the backburner
>mfw all these amazing game mods and level packs the community keeps pumping out

SLOW DOWN DAMMIT

>>4849874
best community

So the Doom Eternal and Devil May Cry 5 trailers got me hyped for some demon hunting media so I finally went and watched Hellsing Ultimate

Holy shit that was garbage
Greatly animated garbage, but just a dumpster fire of a story

>rage 2 includes the classic BFG as an exclusive unlockable weapon in the game
nice.
>if you pre-order the collector's edition!
get fucked.

>>4849880
>>if you pre-order the collector's edition!
>rage 2
>buying
the first one was garbage and so is the sequel

>>4847274
The fourth episode sucks though. The original Doom levels are great all the way through. Quake needed a bit more cohesion to be a proper SP campaign IMO.

>>4849880
Maybe it'll be a cvar in the config like RAGEs DLC
But then again it's RAGE so who cares

>>4849874
Have you tried out the Tangerine Nightmare map pack yet? I'm giving it a go and it's pretty good.

I think GOTHICTX is my favourite texture pack. I downloaded GOTHICDM a while ago and set Turbo = 45 just so I could walk around the levels and admire the scenery.

>>4849895
>Tangerine Nightmare

Hadn't heard of it, looks great.

>>4849896
>GOTHICTX
>Go Thick Thanks
wtf, I love gothictx now

Any caveats when using bjp's fixed version of WinQuake as the default Q engine?

>>4849747
I dreaded going into the well of wishes thanks to those things.

>>4849896
Tangerine Nightmare has its own custom enemy skins, just letting you know in case you use mods. I was playing it with Smooth Doom at first and noticed some weird glitchy fuckery with pinky demons so I took off Smooth Doom and noticed it was because they had skin already on them.

>>4849073
>Topology
Maybe you should ask around in places where mathematicians hang out.

>Doom was meant to be played with the keyboard
>nobody aimed with the mouse

>>4849152
You can look sideward with the mouse. What else do you need?

>>4849880
It will be nice just to see what an “official” rendering of the classic BFG would look like in 3D

>>4849952
Shame it's not even in a Doom game
Same goes for most of the QC stuff

>>4849916

>>4847321
>think to myself I haven't played Doom in a while
>get psyched and decide to binge on wads
>change my mind, feel compelled to start over with Ultimate Doom and up
>get to about halfway into TNT before I get bored and stop
>process repeats a month or so later

the fuck is wrong with me

>>4849961
The fuck did you do

Are there any other texture replacement mods? All I've found is the Hexen 2 texture replacement. I've found texture packs but they must be just mapper resources because loading them changes nothing in game.

>>4849962
Maybe it's because you end up at the shitty bits of TNT, making you burn out faster.

>>4849962
Cause TNT is boring and tedious.

>>4847392
>>4847397
In my head I always liked to pretend Doom was his title/codename in the military. Like in an action movie where everyone has a nickname they call each other.

Besides Revilution, are there any other unofficial sequels to TNT?
In fact, are there also more to Plutonia besides 2 and Revisited?

>>4847321
I finished Reverie with Brutal Doom once. Going Down with Wrath of Cronos. Maybe a handful of other megawads when playing coop. That's it. I think the whole megawad format is bullshit. Quake has stronger fan made maps because the game's community focuses on single map releases. Even if it's a map pack, one author only works on one or two maps.

Gimme you dumbest doom wads and ill play them :^)

Just played mock2.wad with my volume on max felt great :^)

>>4849975
there was a TNT:Devilution but it is stuck in development. i believe there is a *twid TNT planned

>>4847171
Put a roof really really high up and whoever touches it wins a fabulous prize

>>4849763
Hey buddy, what does the plakanomicon do? I remember asking once about the Combined Arms update and you posted a webm of an awesome caltrop SSG and said you want to put custom enemies in for it. What kind of enemies are you thinking? I like the GMOTA enemies. That's some dope shit.

>>4849207
> marty a live
it's pointing under the crosshair
wait is that the shotgun?
what happened to the old one?

>>4849961
i need the unobstructed version of that post

>>4849997
The plakanomicon lets you cast brick magic.
https://my.mixtape.moe/fmcfye.webm

>>4849997
Oh right, and the monsters of Combined_Arms are pretty much just the same as vanilla, just with one extra attack and some new sounds. Except the Archies and lost souls, they just have new sounds.
I didn't wanna go too crazy with the monsters seeing as a lot of people will most likely just get the weapons only version of the mod still.

>>4849970
>>4849971
Is Plutonia any better? Haven't touched it in the longest damn time.

>>4850015
I like that brick magic. Especially that big wall you fired at the pinkies. I'm looking forward to that update, I'm hyped for it. The brick magic and caltrop shotgun are gonna be a lot of fun to use. Gonna be a good time.

Is it possible to determine somehow who did what levels in Dissolution of Eternity?

>>4849857
We will charge you with animal abuse and poaching.

>>4849912
me too doc

>>4849961
>even we can't understand what the hell is being said

>>4850027
Plutonia is more consistently well-made than TNT, but it the most difficult of all the Doom IWADs.

>>4850037
okay you know what if you come at me with that shit imma just shoot you instead you satanic cunt

>>4850040
Right. I'll skip ahead and give it a go. Thanks.

>>4849963
>>4850004
It was a post made on the /vr/ doomgen a while ago, here's the original of the pic.

>>4850036
Try emailing John Romero

>>4850040
Guess there's no double standard for marines.
Kill a superior officer because he's trying to kill unarmed innocent, peaceful protestors.

Ruthlessly slaughter nearly harmless jellyfish-cats from hell that hardly even know they themselves exist; and have no clue what the player even is; It has no limbs, so it interacts in the only ways it knows how.

So much for a moral compass.

>>4850068
yeah but what about the nonsensical post?

>>4850071
GET A JOB, HIPPIE

>>4850081
I mean, the gibberish was posted ages ago. It might be on some archive somewhere.

>>4850084
That imagouse. Romerog Doom. mouse. Obviously you couldn't aim in y axis but you could still aimge is shit. sly you couldn't aim in y axis but you couldD still aiYou could play Wolf3 from the start wih the m with the moth a when they weren't even planning on makinking Doom. mouse. Obvioum wituse. Romero was speedrunning it with a mouse years ago

>>4850086
thank
> romerog doom

>>4850083
job has nothing to do with it
it is my job to stop you from killing caco

>>4850084
huh, never thought i'd see that map of mine posted again

>>4850094
It's a nice aesthetic, is it from a public release?

pssst hey kid
wanna buy hellstone?

>>4850097
How much hellstone is equal in value to one 64x64 of FIREBLU?

I like Cutmanmike's "ZPortal".

>>4850096
it's a very old map of mine, one of my first.

>>4850102
How do you even carry fireblu?

>>4850113
with gloves

Currently played Chasm in Doom.It's cool to see how some monsters fit in the Doom universe.

>>4850069
How would he know that? Wasn't he already in Ion Storm back when the addon entered development?

>>4850113
Very carefully.

>>4850137
Chasm's 3D models are the only 3D models that manage to look good in doom.

>>4850113
with your hands, pussies

whatcha playin /vr/oom?

>>4850164
We got a UV-Fast player over here.

>>4850004

>>4849880
Have they even shown off gameplay of Rage 2 yet?

>>4850180
You know what?!?
You're right.

>>4850192
Yeah, they have. go look at bethesdas youtube channel.

>>4849961
I remember that post, and people being extremely confused.

>>4850196
I guess I meant like just a video showing some minutes of gameplay. I guess we'll see some at Quakecon.
I kind of liked the first one, even for it's flaws, and it'd be interesting to see if they fixed those flaws.

>>4849970
IMO, TNT starts failing after like map 20 or so, it's pretty solid up until then.

>>4849971
Says you.

>>4850027
Plutonia is much more consistent in quality and tone (though TNT does have a pretty strong tone of its own). It's much harder though.