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quakespasm

>>4836509
Most people actually really like the movement, so I don't know what to tell you. And I agree that you should use the source port if you aren't already.

I'm trying winquake now (it's included in the default install) and the movement is much better, but I can't get the resolution to be in 4:3 aspect ratio.

>>4836529
Alright, I'll give this a try.

>>4836509
probably input lag use a better sourceport and it should feel like quake 2

OP here, I got a bit distracted from the thread, but I fixed the problem.

>>4836681
That's what I did. I tried WinQuake as it was already installed along with GLQuake via GOG's installer. I get some weird color glitches for a few seconds when launching the game, but other than that, it works fine. The controls are good, no more lag/awkwardness, although I'm not sure what caused it in the first place. I fixed the 4:3 aspect ratio through the nvidia control panel. Now the game works like a charm and looks/feels old school.

Now I just have to figure out how to play the mission packs.

>>4836770
I think you load them from the in-game command line thing.

>>4836770
what i do to load up mission packs is just type in "game hipnotic" or "game rogue" in the console on startup
its just whatever the expansion folder in your quake directory is called
also if you want to play multiplayer for these games use http://nquake.com/ or http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/

>>4836509
quake has a low friction feeling by default, it's not lag

>>4836509
Quake's movement:
1) It's based on acceleration, not a direct amount of movement per button press. So, the ms difference between button presses can attribute to how much you move. That is why platforming sections in this game usually don't base themselves on pure accuracy, it's not always easily achievable. What this does mean though, is that it can be really precise if you're good and know how to move correctly and how much your movements will affect where you go.

2) Sometimes certain ports fuck up your movements. Just play with either WinQuake or Quakespasm. Probably Quakespasm, that's the recommended/best one on offer.

>>4836770
>Now I just have to figure out how to play the mission packs.
I'm sure that modern source ports offer different ways to do it but the surefire way that will work with every port because it's right from DOS Quake is this; from the command-line run
>quake -game hipnotic -hipnotic
or
>quake -game rogue -rogue
Replace 'quake' with your source port .exe.

>>4838849
This works fine, thank you!

>>4838849
Just -hipnotic and -rogue is fine for the expansion packs. But to launch user mods you have to use -game modname.

>>4839227
Not in DOS Quake 1.08. -hipnotic and -rogue do nothing but load the HUD changes on their own. If they load the mods as well nowadays then that's just source port behaviour.

Not OP but is there a way to add mouse acceleration (and be able to set it a value you like) in Quakespasm?

>>4836509
If you're not playing quake on the wii with a small dead zone you're fucking up.

Just get the Epsilon Mod
Its a comfy installer and it looks absolutely great with it.
Quake 1 is still my favorite

>>4843271
Holy shit yes

>>4836529
This

>>4843276
>>4843281

I just finished the two mission packs and holy shit, they were amazing! I remember playing the original Quake about 20 years ago when I was a kid and I occasionally played it again every now and then, but I have no idea why I never tried the mission packs. They were absolutely great and I enjoyed them even more than the "base" game (more variety in weapons/monsters/maps, also more ammo for nailguns and thunderbolt, no need to use shotguns and rockets all the time)

Are there any "unofficial" map packs I can try? Sort of like WAD files for Doom.

>>4843271
>>4843276
>>4843281
Meh, I might try it but I'm not a fan of HD texture packs
>>4843646
mainly for this reason, but vanilla Quake just feels perfectly fine to me anyway.

>>4843276
>>4843281
DP isn't bad when you have lighting built for the map, though you really need to also install the higher polycount models or it'll look weird. Even so, most of the map geometry is flat, but there's a few redesigns that add more detailed brushwork and some clutter here and there to enhance the look.

>>4844541
ARCANE DIMENSIONS
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_50final.html

>>4844553
Do I need Quakespasm for this?
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/download.htm
I don't really trust sourceforge... is this link safe?

>>4844541
I know some people get upset because a lot of guys suck his dick, but sock makes some pretty good maps. They've got a lot of advanced brushwork and some more experimental sort of gameplay sometimes, so it might not feel exactly like Quake in all aspects.

For example, I liked his 1000 Cuts map, it's a single map, but you play through it three different ways to open the door to the final boss. At times, it feels sort of like a proof of concept, but a very neat one at that.

>>4844553
Thats awesome

>>4844549
Isnt this included already in the Epsilon Pack? Feels very complete and just as a enhanced original

>>4844603
I think the lighting is, models might be seperate but were on the same page last I remember, so most people probably got them.

It's more an issue with installing it correctly, it's easy to put them in the wrong directory if you're not sure what you're doing. I had them in the id1 folder for a long time, but I think they might go somewhere else.

>>4843256
My friend loves Quake on the wii

>>4844651
It's my favorite version. It's the best version of Quake, and the best FPS on the Wii.
I tried finding a decent video on youtube to show how fun it is, but everyone on there apparently sucks at it. Maybe I'll make my own video.

>>4844553
Alright, so I finally have Quakespasm up and running with MiniQL, about to check out Arcane Dimensions. Thanks for the recommendation!

Is Quakeinjector worth using?

>>4841030
anybody?

>>4841030
>add mouse acceleration
For what purpose?

>>4844553
>linking the old version
watch this
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_70final.html

>>4844541
New maps are posted all the time on func_msgboard

>>4836557
Please tell me you've already got Quakespasm up and running, for me it's the only way I can play the game outside of work via DOSBOX.

>>4844721
Imagining what's inside grandma's pie, my guess is gibs.

>>4846073
Will check this out, thanks!

>>4846092
Yeah, it works fine, I'm also using the MiniQL launcher which is great. Quakespasm looks and feels different than Winquake (especially the monster movement, I'm guessing because of the interpolation), but not in a bad way... I'm just more used to the vanilla style.

>>4845264
Now playing this, good stuff, cheers!
Any other recommendations are also welcome.

>>4844658
Is this possible on dolphin emulator?

>>4846174
It should be, but there's some trick to getting the sensor bar to work. I don't know much about it.
http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/connect-wiimote.html

>>4846174
>>4847032
actually I'm not even positive how the wiimote works with the PC. I've only used dolphin for windwaker, really.

>>4847037
>>4847032
Great, i'll try. I have a dolphinbar so that shouldnt be a problem. Im not sure about that homebrewchannel compatibilty though.

>>4843276
>>4843281
Reminds me of those shovelware covers.

I managed to get it working but had no luck with the controlls so far. Dolphin recognizes the wiimote but the game doesnt react

>>4847783
Hm. I would think it would work on dolphin. Does the wiimote work with other games?

I see this thread's still up, so I guess I'll go ahead and ask: what other map packs should I get?

What are the most noteworthy and essential maps worth trying if you're completely new to non-vanilla Quake?

This is a screenshot from my launcher. So far I've enjoyed all of the maps here, but I'd really like to try something with more weapons and perhaps a greater variety of monsters as well.

>>4849080
quoth maps, it's a resource pack

>>4849040
Works flawlessly in any game and it also says wiimote 1 connected at startup as always. Have to try another homebrew game though. I hope i'll figure it out. Would be awesome on pc with that controller. It also seems to render upscaled to 4k properly

>>4849080
Rubicon Rumble Pack is one of the best. Also try all the Jam packs. Don't bother with Travail, it kinda sucks.

The dirty secret of Quake engines is that WinQuake works better than all of them to this day, unless you're using post-7 Windows (and why would you?).
There's really nothing as solid and comfy as Chocolate Doom in the Quake community, they just make shitty GLQuake improvements that can't even scale the interface properly.
Can you believe that QuakeSpasm didn't support the original weapon positioning until the latest version? The weapons would always look buried under the status bar. And you still have to enable it with a console command (r_viewmodel_quake 1) instead of being an easy option.

The only really good "faithful port" is Mark V's Winquake version, which can be configured to look and feel properly without much hassle, and supports the mp3 tracks like other modern ports. There's also a modified WinQuake that does the same, but is buried on some message board I believe.

>>4849973
BJP version of WinQuake?

>>4849973
>And you still have to enable it with a console command (r_viewmodel_quake 1) instead of being an easy option.

Oh my fucking god I'll delete QS right now

>>4849973
jesus.

>>4849973
>I'm 18 and I'm a hipster

The weapon model was moved lower since the status bar is usually transparent in all FItzQuake derivatives.

>>4850005
But you can't play properly Arcane Dimension and other mods without QS.

>>4850338
Yeah I'm so unreasonable, I actually want the port of game to look and play like the original game. Holy shit! I mean, obviously all those hours put into coding, all those modern 3D renderers and multiplatform capabilities can't compare to the impossibly herculean effort to make the game look like original Quake.

Stop making excuses for engine developers, they could easily give you vanilla-like options, they just don't give a fuck and perpetuate bad behavior.

>>4850380
You need to play DOS Quake if you need a 100% authentic experience. Even WinQuake had a lot of changes, e.g. there's a couple of maps on Quaddicted that can be completed only in DOS Quake because e.g. jumping out of water in non-DOS ports had a different jump height.

>>4850380

Check this engine out my friend:

http://super8.qbism.com/

>>4836509
this song will tell you everything you need to know about quack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAOE1bEEiuQ

>>4849080
nehahra