/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4657845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPJ1sPQ3aQ

I've only played against bots because I've only ever downloaded the game illegally.

That being said: I enjoy Instagib matches the most. Anyone else?

>>4657938

Instagib gets boring after a while because you only have one weapon. Give me bodies flying into space with rockets and flak grenades anyday.

>>4657980
I don't mind flak or rockets, but I think instagib makes it a level field and faster paced -- even though some bots are insane with the auto-aim.

>Unreal 1 is one of the best FPS' of all time
>Unreal 2 was garbage
>Unreal 3 never ever

>>4658050
Unreal 2 wasn't even a sequel, just some sci-fi game of its own

>>4658050
Sent a message to him

https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic

REMAKE OF UNREAL GOLD WHEN ?

>>4658405
we should make a petition or something

>>4658050
Unreal 2 was trash. It was developed by Legend Entertainment, the same people who made Return to Na Pali, and it's more of a sequel to that than Unreal.

>>4658416
Classes in Return To Na Pali is shit coded lol

>>4657845

I've tried to play Unreal gold about a billion times, I've played and enjoyed just about every worthwhile FPS under the sun but I've never been able to make Unreal click, what am I doing wrong lads?

>>4658589
I don't know how you're playing, but when you play it right you should feel like you are really in Na Pali.

>instagib
There's already enough ways to kill someone instantly, do you really need that too? Just telefrag your opponent like everyone else does.
>playing UT1999 GOTY back in the glory days
>could do OK, was a middle of the scoreboard player most of the time
>crazy wild games, every weapon in use, even dual enforcers and the piston got a lot of play
>teleporting experts warping around the map like ninjas, telefragging people left and right
>every map mode had tons of servers full of people
>many servers would just play every official map of that map mode in order
>crazy mods that added matrix-style movement into the game
>endless fun
>decide to give multiplayer a go a few years ago
>get GoG version, hop online
>2-3 servers playing 24/7 FacingWorlds, handful of players on each one
>every single player is using the sniper rifle and just sitting on opposite sides shooting each other
>they really don't even bother going for the fucking flag, just sitting there sniping all day
>every other server is running 500MBs of custom material that you need to download before you can even look at it, at dial-up 2-3kbs speeds
>they all are mostly empty too
I miss the tense battles on the Assault maps, the adrenaline rush from the wars on CTF maps, and the wild fights on Morpheus_DM.(the three towers with low grav) CS1.6 still averages ten to fifteen thousand players a day, but UT1999 is dead. That's fucking sad.

>>4658050

>paragon's 12 million dollars assets to the trash went
>not a single penny for unreal 3

I want to get off this timeline

i love this shit

>>4659259
>High-capacity AutoMag
>Clip Capacity +284%

>>4660424
Ah, that's a value I have yet to convert into an integer. It is not among my priorities at the moment because I am experimenting with other stuff.

>>4660484
>mag size 46
>284%
If it's just 284%, it will be a bit under 140, if it's adding 284%, it will be closer to 190-200. This isn't algebra, what conversion would be needed here?

>>4660494
Default mag size is 12 . What are you trying to say? I do not understand.

Which games are still active?

>>4657938
>I've only played against bots because I've only ever downloaded the game illegally.
>That being said: I enjoy Instagib matches the most. Anyone else?

You always could play online with warez copy. I used to love Instagib CTF back in the day... pure FPS with all the unnecessary bits stripped away.

>>4660494
Are you fucking retard ?

>>>/school/

>>4658405
didn't he talk about open sourcing unreal 1/UT at some point?

Cheopos Dorado is out
http://www.unrealsp.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4305

Managed to make the author add some decent guns, everything was a bullet sponge in the beta.

>>4661292
Nice, I can play that after I finish Hard Crash

>>4660502
He's being stupid, ignore him

>>4660503
Unreal and Unreal Tournament

>>4661167
Next month is the 20th anniversary of the franchise so maybe

>>4661167
I fucking hope so. The floodgates for modding needs to be opened

A shame this was a bit short-lived but it was fun to see an odd way to revive the pro scene after UT4s announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V3gRmJcd7A

>>4658681
I wish UT had just as many players as 1.6

>>4658554
>not dodging at the last second

>>4666148
There should be an automag that only reloads, it never loads ammo.

Which ASMD rifle is the best and why is it UT2k4?

>>4658589
Give it some time. It's not really a game that you like instantly, but rather one that grows on you as time goes on.

>>4664496
Apparently it was possible, but the UE1 code was in such a bad state they felt it wasn't worth the effort, given it is not relevant to modern game development.

>>4668291
This.

UE1 was spaghetti-coded. We need a remake with UE4.

>>4668291
that's not the point, bunch of autists can refactor the worst offending code in a month

serious engine had it's source code released recently too and nobody complained about it's quality

>>4668291
I'm pretty sure that didn't stop modders from making the 227 patches

>>4668432
In all seriousness, UE4 is limited for modding.

>>4670586
srsly?

>>4669189
Main guy at oldunreal has an NDA for UE1. he has source code for versions..

220, 224v,(225f was lost/overwritten by 226f) 226f, 400, 432, 436, 451 and some unreleased builds of UT. upak.dll source was never dug up by epic -- "we dont have the bandwidth to..." so it's just a dummy dll where the original intent of the code was rewritten in uscript.

For what its worth, when Tim says the middleware in UE1 is a problem -- it's not. Galaxy source code was given to the devs from the original creator, and all renderers and such were made by the community. This also includes some new audio drivers.

Best I can think of that might be blocking is some proprietary intel SSE/gamespy shit still in the source code. Intel SSE instructions have C++ equivalent code -- so they can be stripped easily.

also, UE1 is surprisingly similar to UE4. More or less UE4 has a better rendering system, better audio system, and less... hacked physics/actors. The core workings of the engine (actors, subsystems) are largely the same.

UE4 still has unrealscript, it's blueprints now, there is no uscript compiler as /vr/ knows it, but you could theoretically reimplement it if you had UnCorSc.cpp

>>4670896
I'm curious, what is stopping him from releasing those unreleased UT builds, just part of the NDA?

>>4670953
he sees it as UTPG's job to release UT builds. Those guys still have an NDA for UT, but basically do nothing. Apparently, nothing very important was changed between 451 and whatever version... 468? he has. It's been a while since I asked about it.

Another reason is that he sees releasing a half baked build with no real bugfixes as kind of insulting to the community. Enough time has been spent on U1 alone that I can't imagine him working on U1 and UT at the same time.

I'm stuck
On RtNP in the mission 'inside the prometheus'
How do I handle all those dudes after I turn on the ship?

>>4671018
Kill them all like Rambo.

>>4671018
set input leftmouse set bots health 1 | fire

:^)


but really, those fuckers are hard since they're bots. Going to need a lot of save/reload and luck my friend. The bots aren't very smart, so you can use razorjack/eightball grenades/flak cannon indirect attacks pretty easily. Try funneling them into being hit by grenades

>>4671018
Assault Rifle alt at long range will do fine against them.

>>4657845

Botpack.chair

>>4671018

Hitscan weapons, like the Assault Rifle, ASMD, and even Automag, are you best hope.

>>4670965
Are they going to add widescreen support? I feel like that's pretty important, along with the remote execution thing if that hasn't been fixed.

>>4672923
Pretty sure you can just change your inis to support it -- or use "setres 1920x1080" (or res of your choosing) and use "fov" command to support widescreen. I don't know if there's a limit on FOV with ultrawide res

enjoy your tiny ass hud/text though, not really shit that can be done about that at all from what I understand.

remote execution can be disabled by making your System folder readonly -- sucks if you want to save servers as favorites or something though. I guess you could explicitly make your UnrealTournament.ini and User.ini not read only.

>>4672982
I say that because everytime I expand the resolution, so does my crosshair and that throws off my shots with the Sniper.

>>4658416
Except Return to Na Pali was pretty decent, don't compare it with U2.
U2 was just a generic shitty fps with the appearance of the Skaarj practically forced.

>>4672993
Dunno what to say -- are you using mods/joining modded servers? Scale of the crosshair shouldn't increase past X res of 576 -- anything equal or higher has it scaled to the same size.

>>4673049
I'm an idiot, I thought FMax was FMin

yes, it does scale as res goes above 640.

You could fix this with a mod, but fixing it in multiplayer on a server you don't run probably isnt happening

Is Clive Barker undying similar to unreal? I want to play an fps as atmospherically thick as unreal, I want to feel like im going on a journey.

Why is the unreal fandom so small compared to other 90's FPSs?

>>4673621
Blood has way more of cult following than Unreal. I never got why Unreal doesn't have a huge following.

>>4674589
blood's fans are all drooling retards who only like their game because it's ((((((hard)))))), though, so the unreal community has that going for them

>>4674626
I'm a fan of BLood, but I still don't understand what makes it so popular. People wrote tons of fanfics and made fan videos about Blood.

I really dunno why everyone shits on Unreal 2. It's single player campaign is above average and the graphics are great.

what happened to this project? (Unreal Remake)

>>4675532

Because it wasn't anything like the original, it had a crappy plot, no massive graphical breakthrough, and the soundtrack wasn't as good as the first.

I still liked it though. Weapons were great fun.

>>4658589

Turn that soundtrack up, read the pda logs. Dim the lights.

>>4675762
This. U2 has an insane arsenal. Was the most Unreal aspect.

>>4675532
It didn't feel like Unreal, the Skaarj were thrown in at the beginning of the story and at the end, it didn't continue off where RtNP ended, and it felt like they wanted to steer into some weird RPG-like setting. If anything really, the weapons were well designed and they felt powerful.

>>4667810
Probably because it uses dynamic lights a lot and the combo sounds stronger.

>>4670586
>>4670643
Not really. Some libraries (under MIT licence too) can add lua or python support.
And Tom looman once showed how you can abuse dlc/plugins to load mods
And the newly added asset registry may be used to load things runtime
UE4 is still shit for modding

>>4676460
Samefagging to show some examples:
github.com/20tab/UnrealEnginePython
This adds a full fucking python 3 vm
Lua is already built with C in mind so simply adding the interpreter to the dependencies would be enough.

Why can't they adapt the War Machines in UT4 instead of making the robot designs from UT3

would you bang a skaarj?

>>4677938
Does Skaarj have a puspus?

Now this rather interesting. A short but sweet excercise.
Couple of things to note:
-intro can't be skipped (guess I'm too lazy to input a console command)
-hit scanners are annoying (but manageable)
-earthquake effect with each step of the cyberdemon was a bit too much
-secrets are much more pleasant with unreal's bump into buttons kind of approach

>>4678482
there seems to be a save bug where enemies turn invisible after you load a save. Best to save at the end of a level for now.

>>4678662
doompawns.u I dont think was ever intended to be used in singleplayer.

>>4678482
That intro looks pretty cool, reminds me of the flyby credit in Doom(only good thing about it)

>>4678895
Remaking 2.5D fps levels in Unreal has a certain appeal. Maybe /vr/ thinks differently, but I kinda want to see "Hotel Hell" from Duke in Unreal. Wouldn't say no to something from Shadow Warrior either.

>>4680446
I'd love to see some maps from Blood to show up as well.

>>4677939
if you're brave, yes

Well, it looks like Epic finally shit the bed and dropped UT4 for good over Fortnite.

>>4675532
these >>4675762 >>4676426 men got it right.
It was closer to a Half-Life and Halo than Unreal, too bad they named it as a sequel to latter. But aside from that it's pretty good game for a 1-2 runs.

>>4683264
b-but now they have money so they totally can polish UT4 to the release ready product, r-right?

>>4683447
>They are stashing shitload of cash so they can make Unreal 3/Remake.
a man can dream...

Unreal Tournament ruined what I loved so much and I will never see a sequel. Epic Games created the alternative to Quake, focusing its game exclusively on PVP. Unreal 1 was a complete game in all respects, while Tournament had nothing interesting (it's like a Call of Duty with only deathmatch). This is an insult.

>>4684103
See what happened to Paragon. UT4 will be next. Trust me.

>>4683264
Source?

>>4684109
So... either cancellation or a long ass hiatus.
Fuck, both are fucking painful.

>>4683264

UT4 has been stillborn for years. Fortnite being popular was just the final nail in the coffin.

>>4684070
God I fucking hope

>>4684103
Bait.

>>4684985
No. I hate Tournament.

>>4684103
>call of duty but with only deathmatch
But UT has way more modes than just DM and it shines because of variety and modding

>>4685468
I was referring to the Call of Duty campaign.

Call of Duty deathmatch = MP

I play UT when me and my buddies LAN it up. Still fun to this day.

>>4684361
I don't think it will be cancelled. They know people actually give a shit about Unreal, even if it's a small group

>>4685575
The only question is how long until they go back to working on UT4?

>>4684103
>it's like call of duty with only deathmatch
it's much more like unreal

>>4684070
Or pooling all that cash into UT4 budget

>UT4 started in 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmx62rS69kk

>>4688136
It has been almost 4 years since its development. Why the fuck haven't they finished a good portion of the maps?

>>4689260
Fortnite happened. UT4 never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C_-Xe_54s

>>4689438

>>4689438

That Brute gibbed him so hard he spewed multiple heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsPVKIaxRtE

>>4690456
Why are the Raw Steel such _sexy_ motherfuckers?

>>4675532
Unreal 2 was the first game I played post-Commodore 64 where the load times outweighed the gameplay times. also the gameplay times was basically just flea-market bootleg Master Chief shooting at an infinite number of lame spiders with guns so original and unique that I can't remember a single thing about any of them.

>>4690954
A combination of hitting the gym and drugs

>>4678662
This bug should be fixed in the new version

>>4690456
Canonically the gayest Tournament fighter

>>4677938
>Tiny breastplate that still reveals their tits
>sideboobs all day
W-would bang

>>4677938
you ask this like it's actually a question

>>4686784
When Fortnite gets killed by a battle royale that's closer to arena shooters.

>>4694074
Maybe then we'll see the true revival of arena shooters

>>4692079

I wish I could cum on Slain's rock-hard abs.

>>4694758

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDLLmwxY6Y

Sounds a lot like Unreal.

>>4696721
Holy shit it does, sounds like Prisoner 849 walking in a Nali village.

>>4694074
SOMEONE FUND IT!

>>4678482
>Unreal vs Doom
>Not Doomreal

>>4698316
Is it a doomed reality or is it Unreal that it's Doom?

>>4696721
I love Tim & Geoff Follin's music.

>>4694074
only thing to get me to play fortnite is if epic got some characters from ut in fortnite or as costumes like thunder crash or raw steel armor

>>4675598
Sweaty remade Prisoner 849 is giving me a boner

which UTs do you guys play and when? Are any of the /vr/ servers still up?

I love how Amiga-like some elements of UE1 are, like how it does fire. It gives it a unique identity that was lost in later versions and compared to other engines.

>>4701889
specks unreal server is the only /v/ like server i know of but you have to join the steam group to know when hes hosting because he only does it at certain days its not open 24/7 saddly because not many players get join whenever he hosts.

>>4701942
it's because UE1 was made primarly as an software renderer so it wasn't a homogenized triangle pushing engine like all the future ones

>>4702107
I hope Epic does something nice for 20th anniversary like releasing the UE1 source code.

Fuck, I guess I sound too optimistic about it.

>>4701889
UT99

I mostly play when UM or the Speck group host the game.

>>4702718
>"Hey guys! We're here to announce UNREAL TOURNAMENT ROYALE! It's 100 man deathmatch in Liandri's biggest arena.

People have seriously suggested this in the official UT4 forums

>>4690954
no wimenz, also armor is for bitches

>>4673114
Plays quite different but it is atmospherical

>>4658405
>>4684070
>remake
babies pls

>>4673114
best game on this planet is vampire bloodlines. Got atmosphere so thick you can cut it with a knife.

>>4673114
back on then outcast and gothic atmosphere were pretty good too... not sure if it holds up. But you may enjoy it

>>4702718
Release both UE1 and 2 source codes

>>4704749
You know, even if Epic did announce a new unreal 3, there is a very high chance it will be a reboot of the first one.
Something akin to new Doom. Not entirely a remake, but you get my point.

>>4673114
VTMB is the only game with the best atmosphere

>>4658050
>cliffyB says he wants to make an unreal type game after lawbreakers
>makes a battle royale

>>4658554
>there are people who don't like this because you aren't instagibbing people

I wish more fps games gave us battle against equal scenarios.

>>4658554
It blew me away that these guys were able to dodge your shots

>>4658681

I wish they did what they did with quake live for ut99

>>4704919
Wait, what? A new Unreal?

>>4706310
b-but it takes place in the 80s bro!

>>4706310

>CliffyB went from making games like UT99 and maps like DM-Curse][ to a dogshit battle royale game that's being universally panned and a stillborn arena FPS.

>>4710547
He should just crawl back to Epic so he can make good maps

>>4686784
>how long until they go back to working on UT4?

Basically never happening at this point.

Any drawfags willing to draw Van Darkholme as part of the Raw Steel team?

I just picked up the full collection and I have some questions:
>Any mods I need? I already have 451 and BP4
>Do I need to add anything to the server list or does the browser already show all servers?
>Anyone still play 2004 or is this thread all about Unreal Gold/UT1999?

>>4712490
Make sure to update the master server list
http://www.oldunreal.com/wiki/index.php?title=Masterserver_Guide

>>4712490
Discussion about UT2k4 is pretty small, so there's mostly UT99 or Unreal topics discussed.

So, who is still messing around with UnrealED?

>>4658681
I feel you

>>4714645
Been mostly re-editing old maps like changing textures that don't look well or doesn't fit

>>4714645
what do you have there, anon?

>>4717037
Just making some placeholder textures for the raw brushwork stuff. Very WIP and just for fun.
Probably not going to get my lazy ass to finish a map, tho.

>>4717091
Which UE are you working with? It looks different than the one I'm using

>>4670896

gamespy doesn't even exist anymore

>>4717814
Unreal Editor 2.1
with the extra buttons: Dave's Brush Builder Pack, Extended Brush Builders Pack, RahnemBrushBuilder, TarquinBrushBuilders and FrameBuilder...I think that was all of 'em?

>>4675762

>no massive graphical breakthrough

that game was released in February 2003, I don't remember other games at the times with the use and abuse of static meshes that unreal makes

>>4677938

can you not be banged by a skaarj?

>>4704919

>there is a very high chance it will be a reboot of the first one

no problem with this at this point

>>4704765

not ue1 but ue2 actually has a ton of third party code

>>4704765
>>4717891

I'd really like to have my hands over the pariah/warpath/unreal championship 2 render code and the lineage 2 seamless map loading code

>>4717896
UC2 needs to be ported over to PC

>>4657938
My students play instagib every morning during group time (high school teacher here). It's fast and matches are over in about 10 minutes, which is all the time they get while I mark the roll for the day.

>>4715387
I once updated the original Deck 16 to have the added stuff and paths from UT99 and 2004.
Felt a bit like sacrilege, but played nice

>>4717867
Can maps made in 2.1 be used in UT99?

>>4719287
You can use UT99 maps in Unreal 227, but the other way around?
Maybe if you don't use any of the features that are only in 227 / UnrealED 2.1?
for more see here
https://ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=5540

extra buttons / brush builders work in 2.0 as well, so if you want those, you don't have to use 2.1

>>4718509
Talk about a game being made too early. Those devs must be kicking themselves to this day.

>>4718509
Back when it was released I was hoping it would eventually get a PC release. Now I think it looks too dated. It would be a good remake.

Also Chaos UT2

>wife never got into online gaming until recently
>plays the current dogshit like overwatch simply because that’s all her friends play
>show her UT99
>she gets in, starts fragging and makes some comments
>”I like it, but people now are too retarded to play this. They just want free kills that are participation medals in disguise.”
>”the maps are actually interesting and fun to navigate, even if you might go in circles your first few times they have a lot of charm
>”people actually die when I shoot them”
>”it’s a shame these games are dead.”

>>4720949
I never got why they couldn't make a console and PC port.

>>4658589
i was in your situation, feeling pretty pretty eh and slowing playing through it with months between sessions. But once i got to the gateway to na pali I really got in to it. maybe just because i find the whole floating medieval cities theme to be way more engrossing than ancient tombs and wrecked spaceships.

>>4721504
The outdoor environments is where the game excelled. This is also what made Serious Sam games and Far Cry stand out among a genre that was filled with mainly coridor shooters.

>>4721394
you should wife her

>>4658350
>>4658416
I've heard people saying that Unreal 2's multiplayer was pretty neat, but I never got to try it out.

>>4721532
:thonking:

>>4721560
Never tried it, but I think it still has a community

>>4721204
It doesn't look too dated, I think it'd look much better on the PC with better graphical settings available.

>>4675767
other anon here, you just made me wanna play it again. thanks

>>4721394
You didnt marry a casual, that's good

>>4710547
radical heights is doing pretty good, not excellent but it has interest if they keep updating and supporting it

Is there any way to contact the developers and ask if they're ever going to work on UT?

>>4724674
I'm actually really sad thinking about this. I love Ut4. I adore it. I wish there were more maps. I wish the devs don't give up on it.

>>4724674
They used to frequent their official UT4 discord channel but I'm not sure if they check or not. Last I heard they have only a couple of coders doing some work but not significant for another update.

>Try Unreal in software mode
I can't use other renderers anymore because otherwise the game feels too sluggish

>>4725282
its not slow for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnzpiMfihZw

What exactly does software mode do for Unreal?

>>4725282
Are you running on a toaster?

>>4726796
Nope, just playing without an FPS cap

>>4727137
dont do it then

>>4727137
Have you tried the renderers without the cap? What's your system?

>>4724674
Discord or fly over there and scream at them

Software renderer for life. 3d acceleration is a bad meme.

>>4721394

>tfw my gf found the concept of arena shooters really interesting

It's a pretty cool feeling, right?

>>4704594

Back in my day we called it Last man Standing

>>4730819
too many casual GFs who like Skyrim and Overwatch. We need more tough ones

>>4729323
What's so good about it?

>>4732970
He's a hipster

>>4729291
I thought about doing the lather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3cxt6M18W0

>>4733063
TELL ME.

>>4721204
It doesn't look too date, in fact it looks better than UT2k4.

>>4721204
Selket a cute! A CUTE!

>>4735481
Graphically it is, but that`s mainly because of the limitations of the Xbawks.

>>4657845
I downloaded Unreal Gold yesterday but the game has really fucking bad mouse input lag. I'm on Win 10 any solutions?

>>4737935
installing oldunreal patch should enable rawinput by default instead of directinput
http://www.oldunreal.com/oldunrealpatches.html..

>>4685487
>Call of Duty deathmatch = MP

Did you even play the original CoD? I remember headquarters (KotH basically) being very popular.

>>4721204
How the FUCK is this shit still not on BC when Microshit is opening up the floodgates on it?

>>4666148
Any update?

>>4738673
Dong Lover needs the augmented leg and a shaved head

>>4666148
50% of spawning a Skaarj behind you

I miss servers with their special graphic designs

>>4658554
holy shit this guy cant aim for shit. grandpa reaction speeds too

>>4675158
>I'm a fan of BLood, but I still don't understand what makes it so popular
>I like this game but I don't know why other people like it

>>4738909

The project has not been abandoned. I'm rewriting a lot of stuff to make the game as dynamic as possible.
Unfortunately, I no longer have stable Internet access, so I can no longer post updates of my work.
I will work on it as long as I can, but if in the eventuality I will not be able to do anything (due to problems I might have), I will publish the sources on GitHub and hope that someone will continue my work.

>>4740851
the fucking game has a ton of fanart, fanfics and a short film compared to other games.

>>4741297
Hopefully the project continues to go well for you, it looks really good so far and worthy for another playthrough of the game

>>4744425
The biorifle looks like the Unreal Championship model.
Nice Syzygy.

>>4683264
a-a-a-at least fortnite has Unreal Tournament posters! it has a blurry lo res pic of facing worlds!

I WANT THAT MUSIC AS FUCKING DLC!

>>4745024
I want some of the character designs to be DLC for Fortnite
Like UT99 Necris

>>4742089
because it's based af

>>4746195
lol

>>4746201

>>4746038
Watching that ass jiggle while you run across the field sniping people

So whats the deal with modern games, but especially shooters being saccharine, bright and colorful rainbow barfs? 10 years ago it was about brown and bloom and now were at another extreme.

>>4747903
People bitched about brown and black, now we got bright colors

>>4746825
Epic, please add this.

>>4750601
My anemic daddy-o.

>>4750723
What is he saying?

There should be a /vr/ UT server, we need to come together and play

>>4752271
Someone's gotta host it. We used to have a server but it went down for awhile.

FLAK MONKEY

>>4747903
>>4748201
I wish they would try to do cartoonish graphics in other ways.

>>4756202
It should be done when necessary or else the market would get inflated with cartoonish games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1knZXLkw9E

Post music that sounds like Unreal

>>4758785

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj6omOi20jw

>>4744425
>>4740751

These are dope.

>>4758803
Sounds like something from the Beta

>>4758785
Most of the Deus Ex soundtrack, but that should be obvious.

I've got your back!

>>4758785
Jazz Jackrabbit 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsisGqvXP8I

>>4761884
Assault the base!

>>4763798
Roger, gay leader

>>4752271
The question is, WHO?

>>4657845
Played it as a kid but thought it was hard and used cheats to play sp

>>4758785
Somewhat similar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX8wtjFKXus

>>4764246
I know that feel. I cheated in almost all of the games, I even edited the files to get Xan

>>4752271
it's pretty easy to set up a server for the thread. We just need a server running 24/7 if that's possible.

>>4766549
or we could have set times.

>>4766654
What would work best then? Weekends?

>>4767729
Yes, weekends for pretty much everyone but at what time is another issue.

>>4767792
That's true, we got both US and EU bros

>>4769506
Moar

>>4657845
Unbelievable hubris. I remember them using the janky graphics on magazine covers and the game box with 'actual screenshot' printed on it even though it looked awful even back then.

>>4770081
The big box had the cool holographic art.

Anyone else used to play the shit out of the demo of UT99? I still have my old PCGamer demo disc with it and Rogue Spear and Darkstone and Rayman 2 and shit, I used to play the UT99 demo so much online, shame the servers went down because of gamespy

>>4771550
They're not.Actually, there are lot of servers, some are very populated.

>>4769571
Aww yeah, rpgbro is back. How is the mod coming along?

>>4771550
Just update the masterserver list and you can still play the servers.

>>4724664
>it has interest if they keep updating and supporting it

anon

>>4729323
>muh graphics rendered by multi purpose processor is better than graphics rendered by dedicated integrated circuit

>>4724664

I love the ChaosUT mod for UT99. I spent so much time hookshotting around and fighting bots

>>4774810
I spend a lot of time with U4E mod testing the crazy weapons.

>>4769571
What is your plan for tackling min-maxing?

>>4778380
dunno

>>4673006

Return to Na Pali was a fine level pack for Unreal, provided you didn't pay much for it.

>>4780636
It should've at least had a different ending.

>>4657845
About to finish Unreal Gold for the first time. Sure the game is borked af at times and honestly some of the level design is too complicated for it's own good but damn am I having fun.

unreal and unreal tournament have the best goddamn soundtrack to any video game made past or future

>>4780636
Got this with Unreal Gold, always read how it's shit. Is this worth the time?

>>4781474
If you liked Unreal, then yes.

>>4781474
Still as good as Unreal in my opinion.

>>4704919
Zero chance, Epic is in same state as Valve and would rather make battle royale with purple Homer Simpson than new single player FPS.

Relevant to current events

>>4782661
>Purple Homer
Wait, did they add Thanos to the game?

>>4784785
Sometimes i completely loathe modern games.

>>4784840
>Old games needed a number of units sold to make a profit
> Now devs only need to make one game every 3-4 years that's made to continue raking in cash with microtransactions

>>4783970
I-it'll come back

>>4783970
>>4786415
What happened?

>>4786835
Epic put Unreal Tournament 4 aside for Fortnite. They haven't made any announcements about coming back to working on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjS6rLKnU0c

>>4787985
Having just completed Unreal over the weekend this is perfect. Thanks, anon.

>>4781534
>>4782254
Also the soundtrack for RTNP is as good as the base game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE30MNitK30

>>4787578
Oh bummer.
Can't complain I wasn't hype anyway
>>4787985
I don't think this review makes justice for Unreal
Something is missing from the review

>>4787997
and some of the content was stuff from beta that was originally cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJetmdI6N3o

>>4789108

I was THIS CLOSE to shit on OP with "I know LGR made a video about Unreal but that doesn't mean you have to make a thread and pretend you played it" but the thread actually came first so good on you OP.

It's the 20th Anniversary for Unreal! Epic just made the first game for free today
https://twitter.com/EpicGames/status/998929411033399296

>>4790259
Holy shit, and I was THIS CLOSE to buying it on Steam today.
Thanks anon.

>>4789108
If they were willing to sink all that effort in, they would've been better off just porting the whole game to UE4.

Unreal Gold free on GOG right now

>>4790259
This
It's free on GoG

I've been having blast with RLCoop lately. Is there any other noteworthy gameplay mods for Unreal?

>>4791486
Someone in the thread is making an RPG mod for Unreal

>>4791486
>RLCoop
This looks cool. Is it populated or do you have homies to play it with? if that's the case then you must invite me :3

>>4791792
Oh damn I was wiping my keyboard down lol

>>4721560
>>4722325
Unreal 2 XMP was really interesting and different, kind of like a prototype of UT2K4's onslaught

So, Unreal Gold is free for both GOG and Steam for the next 48 hours:
https://www.pcgamer.com/unreal-gold-is-free-on-steam-and-gog/

>>4791792
Sometimes it can get populated it's pretty easy to set up a server to play with your mates.

>>4792163
There was even a mod that brought it over to 2k4 I think. What was it like? Never played it.

Is the first Unreal Tournament still the most played?
I seeing which one should I buy from GOG.

>>4793191
Yes, still gets a few hundred players online even. UT3 and UT4 were stillborn and 2k4 somehow died - I don't know how as I was never a big 2k4 fan, but it was more played than UT99 around the time UT3 came out.

>>4793212
Thanks, just bought the first UT then. Too bad it wasn't on sale on Steam but whatever.

>>4793191
ut4 has more players imo
every time i hop in ut99 its some meme server with superpowered guns or bots

>>4793404
I played UT4 a bit and it just doesn’t look and feel quite right.

>>4789108
>the ugly tweening on that quadshot reload
every time.

With the free Unreal Gold I decided to finally give it a try. Here's what I like so far.

Weapons are very fun to use. I wish the automag could fire as fast as I could click though. What people say about the flak cannon is no joke though. It's really satisfying and really fun to use. I like it even more than the eight ball. Enemies that are able to actively dodge you are awesome. Makes it a challenge, but not annoying.

What I don't like:
Lack of a windowed mode. Many people don't like that but it's something I look forward to in a game since windowed won't mess with my monitor resolution or possibly crash the game when I alt tab. If there is a mod that implements windowed mode I'm all ears.

>>4794197

Hit the window in the top right hand corner in the main menu

>>4794217
Well damn. That works. Thanks.

Hosting UT2004! at 69.206.70.235

Yo! Since 2010, I've been hosting servers for Unreal Tournament, UT2004, and Star Wars Jedi Academy with the Jedi Outcast maps.

My User Name: InspecktahDeck - Steam Group Name: Speck's Unreal /V/idya. You don’t need the steam version to play, but having steam lets you receive announcements when we play. Announcements, schedules, essential files, group forums, our group discord, and extra stuff is listed all right on the front page!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal

Make sure to download the JK2 maps file located here and drop the .pk3 into your basefolder - http://www.dropbox.com/s/unesp4qinrhbsuo/JK%20Server%20Files.rar?dl=0

>>4794323
Can anyone else connect to this? I was playing and then I got disconnected and now I can't reconnect.

>>4794323
I cant seem to connect to this.

>>4794323
Server is kill for now.

>>4793094
UTXMP was XMP in UT2004, no more no less.
The studio who made the mod disbanded shortly after and the mod had no support, it had a small community and never really caught on, much like the original XMP.

>>4790326
The redux is made by Krull0r, he's a veteran Unreal mapper and I don't think he's worked on later games. Some of his maps are included in oldunreal's 227 patch.

Any games going on right now? Or is Serb quiet?

Alright, I'm stupid so I'll ask, what's the difference between Unreal and Unreal Tournament? Are they both compatible with one another?

>>4794937
>what's the difference between Unreal and Unreal Tournament?
It's two different games using the same engine. Unreal was released in 1998 and had a single-player campaign, while Unreal Tournament was released in 1998 and was multiplayer oriented (also it has some of the best bots ever made)

>Are they both compatible with one another
As far as I know you can open Unreal maps in UT, spawn monsters and weapons, but that's pretty much it. There are also some mods that make the playthrough of Unreal campaign possible in UT.

Can't bring myself to play the expansion. I didn't mind the Unreal campaign, in fact it's underrated when looking back at the FPS games of the 90s but I think I got what I needed out of this game.

>>4795114
but a lot of the expansions content is stuff that was cut from the game.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rtnp-the-ultimate-edition/news/return-to-na-pali-ultimate-edition-v11-hd-released

>>4795114
Better off playing custom maps than RTNP desu.

>>4794937
Unreal is a single-player game
Unreal Tournament is a multiplayer game using the same engine and with variety.

i hate how the HUD doesn't scale in Unreal Gold. is there any way to do it? is it doable without access to the source code?

>>4795114
but what's wrong with the expansion pack?

Here is a "concept" of the mod I am creating. Any advice is welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhydF32pLaM&feature=youtu.be

>>4727137
you're killing your CPU, 90% of those frames won't even get displayed at all

I have decided to play UT99 again but i am getting only 24 fps.
Anybody know what could cause this?

>unreal was given out for free a few days ago on GOG
>game is easily pirateable
>no /vr/ server
why the FUCK is this allowed?

>>4797683
Rendering is almost always the issue for the FPS. Try changing it to OpenGL

>>4797336
that looks more dangerous than any EXU2 gun

>>4794383
When are you hosting again?

does raising the difficulty make the enemies more bullet-spongy?

>>4800702
Don't know about bullet-spongy, but I can tell for sure that it makes their damage output higher

>>4800702
Sort of, but they deal more damage to you and are aggressive

>>4800702
The two extra difficulties in the oldunreal 227 patch will give enemies more hit points, thats for sure.

>>4742089
Caleb's way too cool thanks to his VA and writing.
Also the guns are very unusual for 90s shooter, which adds to memorability.

Can we talk about Unreal Gold? It's surprisingly really good and has great atmosphere.

>>4802837
Speaking of the VA, he was in a low-budget FPS film that I like to call Blood The Movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CBTlUvybU

>>4803904
The first half of Unreal is an awesome experience, I enjoy it as much as HL1. I do think it goes on for a bit too long and starts repeating itself, I took a large break after map28 or thereabouts.

>stuck with a shitty internet connection for the foreseeable future
>feel like playing some arena FPS
>turn on UT99 and start fiddling with bots
>tfw you can configure their behavior and favorite weapons
>make a campy sniper bitch, a jumpy flak guy with bad aim, a shock rifle enthusiast etc., every bot challenges me in different ways
>tfw this is more fun than joining random servers

I fucking love the botplay in this game, nothing else even comes close. I have the perfect mixed team for team matches now.

>>4804574
Yea it starts to feel a bit samey when at isv-khan but I think being able to explore the levels make up for it.

>>4804574
Thats probably because all the cut levels would've filled the gaps, and/or the beta versions of maps generally had more interesting design.

many upak only maps were in the original SP campaign, but cut, and slapped back in as a secondary campaign with some extra levels thrown in.

You should give the beta campaign a go to see if you like it any better. Unfortunately some maps are clearly not polished very well due to being cut seemingly early in the process, but to me it felt more complete overall as maps were connected to eachother in a more elaborate way

>>4804584
arena shooter plus some rpg elements will be an awesome game.

What did the original team use to make Unreal? It can't be the Unreal Ed it shipped with. I don't understand how they could make that terrain in one brush.

>>4804836
not the anon you replied to, but any links to download the beta please? googled a bit, all links dead

>>4805965
There are several versions, but this one is the one i played.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dots-1997-unreal-beta-conversion

Open Vortex3?Mutator=BFix.BFix to start playing.

The mutator is required due to buggy maps and dots not wanting to edit the original files unless absolutely necessary, iirc.

>>4805620
3dsmax, pretty sure.

>>4805991
Isn't, like, dots' conversion the LEAST faithful out of three I am aware do exist (zora, dots, leo)?

>>4806002
I have no objective opinion -- I know all three of these people. Two directly, one indirectly.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/17390004/fortnite-battle-royale-money-made-revenue-300-million-april-2018

why they can't drop a miserable million to ut?

there are tons of modders who'd kill to work in this game for pennies

>>4806284
Because more profit from Fortnite means more money investment in Fortnite.

>ut99 having a 10 years anniversary community map pack
>ut2004 approaching his 15th anniversary and nothing in sight

I chose the wrong game

>>4806413
2k4 has enough bonus content and mods to make the game extra special. And for several years the online community was amazing, especially dedicated servers like )o(mnipotents. But I agree, some love would be nice.

I recently started playing through Unreal again and I had forgotten just how different the weapons are from UT. Having all of the upgrades to the starting pistol thing is a fun concept, wish they would have kept that or used it more.

>>4806413
Why not both?

>>4806436

I like the gameplay of 2004 more

also, I'm 32 years old with a gal, I don't have time even to throw a fart

>>4806413
for a start, unrealed 3 doesn't work on win 10

>>4806434

I tried to organize something for the 10th anniversary but nobody gave a fuck

It's quite sad, the alpha of this game looked pretty promising. They could have made something better than UT2k4, but now I can't see it happening unless they allow fans do everything with the game.

>>4806413
Yeah, I prefer 2004 as well, two years ago I bought it over Steam and was excited to get back in the game. Then I realised almost nobody plays it, there are like 2 somewhat active servers, and they still contain bots. You'd have to set up a meet.
The fact that you can play '99 with a pirated version probably helps keep it alive, but it's a shame how dead 04 appears to be, it's an incredible game, almost perfect arena FPS in my eyes.

>>4806456

they tried to pander ut99 players (AGAIN), the results are evident, ut99 had their shot with ut3, this was time for ut2004

Quake is a game about individual self-expression of mappers through layout design and basically saying "Fuck you Romero, I design the way I like".

Unreal is about layout design ending up environmental design's bitch, and individual self-expression being sacrificed for the "higher vision" of the single project director (Schmalz). The struggle of individuality versus conformance is reflrected in the ingame content itself, with conformance ultimately winning.

>>4806535
In other words, Unreal is the first mainstream nu-shooter.

>>4806539
Continuing in the Quake's direction was, however, pretty much impossible since it, alongside Doom, achieved exactly what it aimed to: spawned the modding scene the way we currently know it.

Following Quake and empowering individual mappers, would've turned Unreal into a simple copycat, while going full out on the coherent aesthetics even though it meant employing censorship on the mappers, made it stood out, even if only for a little while.

>>4806547
In other words, Unreal's downfall was rooted in the fact, that capitalizing on aesthetics was a way to make it un-Quake (no pun intended), pretty much the same way Marathon's downfall was rooted in the fact it was basically hipster un-Doom with "le story" (Pathways into Darkness had way less resemblance in relation to anything made by id pre-Doom, Wolf3D included, than Marathon had in relation to Doom - and Halo actually has way more of Pathways in it concept-wise, than of Marathon). Half-Life, having been made on Quake's engine of all things, however, did something different, but as for right now, I am unsure as to how to describe it. For one, in constrast with Unreal, it WASN'T a direct response to Quake.

Protip, Unreal started development before Quake 1. It took longer to be released because it had a troubled development history.

>>4806632
Yes, and it started as a Magic Carpet clone.

>>4806535
makes sense. the beta maps that were cut seemed to deviate quite heavily from what is now the U1 original campaign.

Best I can tell after playing the U1 campaign a truly autistic amount of times since I played online coop back in its heyday, the overall aesthetic is generally the same up until the "extreme" levels, but you can kinda tell who mapped what.

>>4657845
i got unreal gold for free last weekend, so im playing it for the first time. what difficulty should i play? i started on the second-hardest difficulty, and im already struggling at level 3 a bit. idk if its hte difficulty thats kind of bullshit or if a beginner should be able to git gud enough on that difficulty in their first playthrough without it being tedious

>>4806728
Definitely a high difficulty. The beginning can be a little bit rough because the stinger is a piece of shit and it's the weapon with the most ammo available early on, but after you get more weapons it gets better.

>>4806729
What do you mean stinger is a piece of shit? You do tra-ta-ta, so that the scaarj jumps - you altfire to where he will land. Rinse and repeat, works like a charm.

>>4806761
Because it takes a lot more time and effort than to kill them with most other weapons.

>>4806457
You can still pirate 2k4 with the GOG version. I wish that was enough to keep it alive.

>>4806728
Definitely play on Hard, the game doesn't swarm you with enemies to make it truly difficult, though it has its moments. Normal would probably get boring.

Am I the only who thinks that the Dispersion Pistol is the weakest compared to the other loadouts? EVEN with upgrades I never used it.

>>4806535
A good singleplayer game has to have at least some consistency between levels.

>>4806872
Its pretty much the default weapon meant as a back up. Upgraded can single shot most weak enemies, secondary can do so even without upgrades.

>>4806872
DP is really good fully upgraded with amp to kill titans. Other than that, its kinda shit.

ABU DI!

>>4806872
I hate the unreal 1 design. It's way too big. Why would Terrans carry around a weak sidearm the size of a flak cannon?

Honestly the Unreal 2 design/effects were better imo, but i did miss the upgrades.

The upgrades give you a sense that the DP is actually a character in the game that reflects the player, growing stronger and more experienced over time.

>>4721204
I want to play a remaster of this so bad...in the meantime....anyone find a good rom anywhere?

>>4807465
> the DP is actually a character in the game that reflects the player
That's a really good point.

>>4806558
P.S. In other words, in order to be distinguished from Quake, Unreal, as a whole, was framed as a work of art in accordance with a single person's (Schmalz') interpretation of what art is. In context of Unreal, layout designing is pretty much framed as artisanship, as craft, not as artistry.
Quake as a whole, however, is NOT a work of art. It's a TOOL for creating works of art and the medium through which they can be accessed by the audience. And, at the same time, it frames layout designing as genuine artistry.

>>4808153
>Quake as a whole, however, is NOT a work of art. It's a TOOL for creating
And, therefore, its simgleplayer campaign is, first and foremost, a demonstration of what could be achieved by using that tool in various ways, a showcase of capabilities. Basically, a pitch.

>>4808167
In other words, while Doom is, arguably, Romero's game, Quake is ultimately Carmack's (with Romero just THINKING it was still his game).

>>4808176
>>4808167
>>4808153
How far down the rabbits asshole are you guys going to go with this?

>>4808273
Until I exit through one of the ears, of course.

>>4806558
> Half-Life, having been made on Quake's engine of all things, however, did something different, but as for right now, I am unsure as to how to describe it. For one, in constrast with Unreal, it WASN'T a direct response to Quake.

Half-Life was the Quake 2 done right. Gaben fixed all its flaws in both single and multiplayer and added it's own story, which was narrated in a pretty innovative way, making it more cinematic yet still immersive experience. That wasn't unique feature, all companies wanted to do that, but they were still thinking in the box of text-based narration. Unreal, like System Shock tried to tell story through texts left for the player in a almost empty world.

>>4808532
>cinematic yet still immersive experience.

Gees, dad, if I wanted a movie instead of a game I would play MGS.

>>4808532
One closely follows Quake's mold and in the end creates out of it essentially an interactive painting. Another one literally uses Quake's engine in order to created an interactive Hollywood action movie.
Subsequently the first one flies off the radar shortly thereafter, and becomes a semi-obscure singleplayer addition to the multiplayer series spawned from it, while the second one rises to become a smashing hit.
Like, I don't claim Unreal is a pushover, but the difference in reception and in legacy between it and HL is evident.
I don't think HL being all movie-like is the only reason that would account for that difference.

Moreover, HL2 also went "interactive painting" route with Antonov's art direction. However, it still felt to me very much UNLIKE Unreal at its core. In what way exactly, I can't currently tell though.

>>4807465
I just wish the upgrade progression made it better instead of bogging down the rate of fire to the point where it'll barely save you when you're out of ammo.

>all this wankery to excuse Quake 2 for having one of the most forgettable singleplayer campaigns in any FPS
Come on, the game was tedium in digital form, it was obviously a MP experience with tacked-on SP content. HL1 and Unreal are so ahead of its design that it's not even funny. The only Quake with good maps that actually utilized the 3D capabilities in interesting ways was Quake 1, though it suffers from lack of cohesion the first three episodes had great maps.
Honestly, I have a hard time forgiving Q2 for starting the whole industrial-warehouse-complex-with-crates design philosophy that was so common in mediocre FPS from late 90s/early 2000s.

What are some maps to try after finishing the U1 campaign? I'm interested in both historically significant ones and anything considered great now.

>>4810484
Return to Na Pali.
Operation Na Pali.

>>4810450
>industrial-warehouse-complex-with-crates

HL1 had this in spades too.

>>4810509
Xidia Gold
7 Bullets

The early levels however are very frustrating.

how would you fix unreal 2?

>>4810529
Make it about a group of space miners trying to destroy the Liandri Corporation, and dying in the process.
It would fit with the depressing cyberpunk setting of the games.

>>4810529
Make it take place during the Human-Skaarj war.

>>4810538
>last levels are in the city where you have to blow up the Liandri office building
>its basically Unreal meets Deus Ex

>>4810538
>>4810542

I'm talking about the already done unreal 2, at the end all the bad things are reduced to the plot

>>4810519
>tfw Residual Decay will never get finished

>>4810519
7 bullets is shit

>>4810750
It had its moments. There was way too much running around in dark coridors and backtracking however. Also those scripted events early in the game.

I blame RTNP for introducing and subsequently normalising bad voice acting in most Unreal SP projects. Who thought that was a good idea?

>>4810779
Oh yeah, I forgot Déjà Vu – Gryphon Revisited, which I think is the best out of the 3, but also shortest.

>>4810484
Nali Chronicles

It takes place before the events of Unreal. You play as a Nali and can cast spells, do alchemy, and there are new weapons to use such as the Krall staff

>>4810538
Awesome idea, but people would call it a Red Faction rip off

>>4810538
I recall a backstory from one of the bots in ut99, something about green world rebellion and how they masterminded it.
That would fit nicely with your seting.

>>4811089
It was the miner rebellion lead by Xan

Unreal will never look as good as it did on a Voodoo Rush using the old software rendering dither techniques before Glide and other standards came into practice. You can't even play it anymore, there aren't any functioning binaries left in existence. It's a treasure that's been lost to time.

>>4811089
Just checked it and it's Blood Reavers' Kyla bio:
>Kyla was captured after a five year manhunt that spanned 13 star systems. Guilty of masterminding one of the largest miner rebellions in history (Green’s world), she has been forced to fight in the Tournament for her life.

Man, when you read all these bios, you feel like Unreal deserves something like a comic series or a tv show. All these characters with different stories and goals.

>>4811942
That was his backstory from 2004, which even though it's good, I think it ruined the mystery from ut99 of whether he was a real robot or some guy in a suit.

>>4812345
>the mystery from ut99 of whether he was a real robot or some guy in a suit
Well, when you kill him, you get meaty chunks and blood, isn't that evidence that he was a guy in a suit?

>>4812345
I love reading some the backstories for characters. It makes good fluff for the game. If only they made more Unreal books.

>>4811993
Explain

>>4810556
>You fight against War Machines
>This starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9TJmLrJEzM

10+ years ago I played UT99 online and it was on a custom map that was a house and all the players were as small as toys and there was some weird song playing in the background m any idea what this map was

>>4811993
This is a real problem when trying to replay Unreal engine games. The dithering is broken in Deus Ex and every dark area is either rainbow colored or worse

>>4812509
That was a bug, confirmed by devs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Byml9w4p8

>>4811082
if somehow someone made it so you can destroy everything around you

>>4797336
Is this the RPG mod guy? Was wondering when I'd see more of this, looks really good.

>>4819461
Yeah, it's him.