/vr/ - Retro Games

They're games for kids. People played them as kids and thus have a distorted perception of them. Yes, they're not amazing, but they're perfectly competent and charming.

>>4801730
It had charm. Nice jingly music, colorful artstyle, cute characters. Gameplay is okay, but its not like the trilogy is remembered solely because of it.

It's a good attempt at making a rare style collectathon in a system that wasn't known for those things.

on a system that had barely and 3d platformers, a mediocre platformer seemed good

>>4801741
This. The game is greater than the sum of its parts. These games are actually FUN.

>>4801779
PS had many 3D platformers, it just lacked collectathons.

>>4801889
>it just lacked collectathons.
?
Pretty much every single 3D platforming game on PS1 was a clone of an N64 one, just with the scope tuned down for the more limited hardware.

>>4801902
>Crash/2/3
>Pacman World
>Jumping Flash/2/3
>Croc/2
>Rayman 2
Are not collectathons.
>Spyro/2/3
>Ape Escape
Are.

>>4801913
>Crash/2/3
Need to collect crates, gems, etc.
>Rayman 2
Need to collect 1000 lums.

>>4801902

How deep must the N64 be shoved up your ass in order to actually believe this?

>>4801920
>need
They're all optional. I only ever get gems on like two levels because I've come to know where they all are by incident. It's 2.9D Mario on Mountain Dew

>>4801730
When I first got a PS, I didn't have money for an actual game, so I played the demo for this over and over again.

A focused educated art direction goes a long way to stimulate children's minds.

>>4801730
The PS2 games were better

>>4801730
Europeans likes this as well.

>>4801730
The gamera placement was fucking genius in an age before camera control became the norm.

>>4801913
>Jumping Flash/2/3
THERE WAS A 3???

The first one was like a combination of the classic "get to the end" sidescrollers and the Rare collectathons. The other two tried too hard to be collectathons and failed.

>>4802852
I must have missed the giant rampaging turtle level in the game.

>>4802858
Japan only. Robbit Mon Dieu

I was 9 when the first Spyro came out and even back then I had this innate disdain for cringey cartoon dragons. Like, furfag shit hadn't even exploded into the mainstream consciousness yet, but somehow I knew there was going to be this disgusting fandom around characters that look like Spyro, especially with true autists.

With that said, they're playable, but they weren't even top 3 platform franchises on the Playstation alone.

>>4801730
They were games for kids whose parents were too clueless to buy them an N64.

>>4803309
There is literally nothing wrong with being a scaley.

>>4803315
Unless you're into some of that other baggage that comes with it like vore and hypno, then you can fuck off.

The first spyro is a wonderful collectathon. No gating collectibles with later acquired skills, creative level designs, amazing music, and cohesive visual design.
I can really do without the others in the series but the first is really fun.

>>4801730
>>4801736
>>4801736
>>4801779
>>4803310
Spyro is pretty much it's own genre because there's no other game where you play as a 4 legged creature. All of the platforming and shit ends up being completely unique because of this. Every other platform that stars somethimg with 2 legs tends to feel pretty similar.

I've always found weird that people put this alongside Crash Bandicoot. This is nowhere near as good.

>>4803758
PSbabby nostalgia. Neither of them are top-tier 5th gen games, but Crash is definitely better, yes.

I will agree that Spyro has comfy aesthetics though.

>>4803321
Man of culture.

>>4803723
You're saying it's a different genre because the animation cycle the game uses when the character moves is different?

Well alright then.

>>4803797
I played both for the first time in 7th gen. Spyro shits all over Crash.

>>4804032
Is there another game with a two legged character that can indefinitely charge at the press of a single button?

>>4801730
Marketing, same reason people love FF7 so much even though there are better JRPGs that are lesser played/known.

>>4804037
They have to charge now? I thought they just had to have four legs to be in this genre.
In any case, yes there is, and it's boost-a-thon Sonic.

>>4804042
I hear this "It's only popular because of marketing" meme a lot lately.

>>4804054
It's true though. Do you think companies would spend so much on marketing if it wasn't successful?

I'm not saying the game is bad, but there are better platformers on PS1 which sold a lot less because they had smaller marketing budgets. If you want to know why X game is so popular, the answer is usually marketing, especially back when the average gamer had dial-up AOL internet and didn't have places like 4chan to discuss games.

>>4804062
What are those better platformers?

>>4803309
Totally believable post you flaming hindsight bias faggot.
>WELL UHHH I DIDN'T PLAY SONIC ON DA GENESIS BECAUSE DA FANBASE IS CANCER LOL FURRIES RITE

Like any 9-year-old is going to be thinking about some hypothetical future culture centered around a game instead of playing the damn game.

>>4804076
Tomba 1 and 2, Klonoa, Skullmonkies, Strider 2

>>4804120
Now you're just being delusional.
None of those even come close to Spyro.
Skullmonkeys in particular is trash, and Strider 2 is quite poor as well.

>solid gameplay
>smooth controls
>great framerate
>better camera than in any other 3D-platformer that gen
>great memorable music
>superb art design
>high quality voice acting for its time
>tons of levels that are distinct from one another

What's not to like?
The only 5th gen 3D-platformers that are arguably as good or better are Mario 64 and Ape Escape.

>>4804116
well no, I did play Sonic, that franchise was actually engaging

>>4801730
>>4801741
Good music, and easy collected items, you could play it for a few days in the summer and beat it, execpt for trickly levels like Tree tops and Wizards Peak

>>4804374
>Strider 2
>poor
the fuck

>>4803309

>>4801730
9000 better than mario64

They aren't great action games, but Spyro games are comfy and relaxing. If you enjoy milling about in levels they're great games for it.

If you're the type of person to just rush to the end or rush 100% completion and turn it off I can understand not enjoying it that much or not really seeing any replay value in it, though.

>>4804387
I mostly agree. We first got the game for my sister who was a kid back then and found the visuals cute, that's how I gave it a sceptical go.

I grew to like it and you have to admit it's a polished game with great control and the best free camera on the system.
From a technical point of view, it's one of the first PS game to use level of detail, allowing large, good looking outdoors with a smooth framerate

Now, I'm not a huge fan of the level design and collectathon, but it's still a game that truly impressed me.

>>4801730
Why do you care what Americans like?

I can't speak for the other games but spyro 1 is just genuinely comfy. It was one of the first games we played on our Playstation back at home, and coming back to it at like 20yrs old it was just a good time 'n I had fun.
Nothing too remarkable.
Besides the music.
That fucking sweet music

>>4803321
this

I always hated how the 2nd and 3rd games had forced backtracking

Being able to just go through a level one time and 100% clear it was satisfying.

>>4801730
Idk I never really enjoyed spyro and the only collectathons I liked was banjo (and conkers)

>>4807546
Preach, brother.
The third game in particular went real overboard with the backtracking nonsense.

>>4801730
Anon, the trilogy was just as popular in Europe as it was in America.