/vr/ - Retro Games

Thanks for making a new thread so I could post this before I went to bed.

Evergreen Gardens down.
Finally, after all of these years, got my bearings with earning lots of money with a "pay to enter" park. Apparently closing everything down, as well as the park, waiting for guests to leave, and then reopening everything and using advertisement campaigns to bring people back in nets you around $35,000. I don't know why I never fucking thought of this before because literally every fucking theme park in the world does this. Guess I have a brain disorder.
Regardless, can't wait to build a proper park in this scenario. So A E S T H E T I C.

Bumbly Beach I go, woo.

>>4763628
Looking good so far. Evergreen Gardens makes for some awesome large parks.

Do riots happen for a reason in Simcity 3000, or do they just happen randomly? Dumb question I know.

>>4764286
I think disasters are chosen at random.

>>4764286
I think they happen in low aura areas, I only ever see them when something is going wrong with the city. They're a bit more rare than other disasters.

>>4764402
>>4764442
Thanks for the information, honestly.

>>4764235
>all of those prebuilts
Listen here

>>4764790
I was losing my patience pretty hard in the second half. One can only put up with putting down handymen for so long

this is the first city i've ever built in any citybuilder. idk how to lower the amount abandoned buildings. my taxes are low but now one will move in no matter how many parks and amusing things i put in.

this is the first city i've ever built in any citybuilder. idk how to lower the amount of abandoned buildings. my taxes are low but now no one is moving in despite having a million parks scattered around.

>>4764823

>not perfect 4x4 grid layouts
>all that messy roadwork

Commercial stuff should be central, with houses'n stuff flowing out of it. Put parks near neighborhoods, not willy nilly all over the place. Sports arena should be downtown too. I don't know, the whole thing looks messy, but not a bad first attempt, all things considered. City builders were never my thing though, so someone else can probably give you better tips than me.

>>4764823
Look at the RCI indicator. Residential is way negative. You need to work on other stuff before more people will move in. Parks just increase land value, I believe.

>>4728003

Updated my park. Hydra is Green, Wyvern is Pink.

>>4763451
The GOG version comes with a "reference guide" that shows all the buildings (I think). I've uploaded it to my webzone for you (~18mb):
>http://oldshoes.ca/f/Pharaoh-reference-card.pdf


>>4764823
That's pretty good for a first city, friendo. Don't listen to turbo autists for not doing all grids. You may be lacking in education, health or safety (fire/police) for your RCI demands being so wonky.

Fokin' ezpz lemon squeezie.

Is this a common park people use to cram as many rides into it as possible, micropark-style? Do people do that? Because I'm gunna do that.

That's all for the Easy parks in vanilla RCT1. Only to the medium parks, wew lads.

>>4765339

>>4765341
This is this scenarios true and only fate, and I love it.

>>4765339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLzsgBAvWo

>>4765339
>adding extra supports to the wooden coaster at the gate
I approve. It always looked precarious to me.

>>4765339
That's a nice out-and-back woodie. The turnaround is a little hypercoasterish.

>>4765341
>can't build spaghetti parks like this anymore

I miss being 10.

>>4764846
People complain about not doing a grid? Most cities irl are much more natural than that and unless you're trying to build a utopia then grids are boring and unrealistic.
>>4764823
For a first city that's great. de-zone a little of that res to the south to get your rci demand a little bit back on track, and pay more attention to it in the future. Maybe build bus stops on every other intersection for quick & easy transport.

>>4766097
Spaghetti parks are an under-appreciated artform. Making a super-efficient self-sustaining park with coasters everywhere is fun as fuck.

>>4766745
That Virginia Reel is truly unholy

>>4766745
>>4766784
I should clarify that I really like what you have going on, though.

>>4766745
As someone who usually aims for a very clean, purist design, I wholeheartedly agree

I am really liking Trinity Islands my dudes.

Reminder from last thread: knots contest!

https://imgur.com/a/hqhGnGY
https://strawpoll.com/6r53f8sg

>>4766745
I'll bite. Save file?

>>4767272
Looks nice.

>>4766745
https://www.nedesigns.com/park/640/evil-wmes-mount-doom/

all hail the spaghetti lord

>>4767272
That looks great, the added trees, the coaster queue, the entry plaza, all very nice. The coaster looks like a fun layout as well, reminds me of Jaguar at Knott's.

What are your favorite songs in tycoon/citybuilding games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NYlwwFiEbI

>>4767590
https://youtu.be/FAT2XCdIsVU

>>4767469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM5ZFLZKHKg

Work continues...

>>4767559
Funny, I usually use Jaguar as an inspiration to make long-form kiddie coasters.
I'm like 22 and Jaguar is still fun to ride.

>>4767590
ALL HAIL

Seriously though holy fuck

>>4767523
ALL HAIL

Seriously though holy fuck

>>4764286
overcrowded jails/prisons can cause riots (for some reason).

Not exactly /vr/ but since a lot of people talk about PSP for emulating, and it's easy to mod, how is this?

>>4767762
I remember not being able to make your own rollercoaster track layouts or make your own parks from scratch.
The only redeeming quality was being able to walk around and talk with guests and ask about your park and how it is. That was cool.

>>4767762
Also I think this does qualify as /vr/ since the game hit 10 years old like 6 months ago.

>>4767771
That's not how /vr/ works. Kindly read the sticky.

>>4767771
it doesn't, 4chan staff refuse to make a change to the cutoff year, despite the sixth gen turning 20 this year

>>4767778
>>4767781
Kindof lame, honestly.

>>4767651
Re-did the first coaster I made in this park.

>>4767590
>SC3k
>not Magic City
Jerry fucking Martin, yo.

>>4767815

>>4767851
I personally love the buildup that City of Dreams has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc5cUXUDun8

in really busy parks is it normal for openrct2 to drop to like 18-20 fps in certain views?

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-05-09-rollercoaster-tycoon-3-pulled-from-steam-gog

Phew luckily it is still on goodolddownloads and on my external hdd

>>4767920
Must have something to do with the Hershey or ATI product placement

>>4767909
Yup. The game has a hard-coded sprite limit apparently.

>>4767990
It's really hard to hit the limit, and hitting it is probably a separate issue from frame rate

>>4767730
https://www.nedesigns.com/park/3674/dark-realms/

the spaghetti lives on with Angroc

>>4767920
tell me again why """intellectual""" """property""" should exist?

>>4768626
IP makes sense but the way its currently applied does not. Artists should have 24 years to make money from a work and then after that their work is released to the public domain. The current copyright laws allow for terms of like 100+ years which means no one that is currently alive will ever be able to make use of works that are coming out. Copyright laws are just hindering innovation rather than inspiring it. Patents are similar but not as severe because the terms at least expire in well under a lifetime. Bigger problem with patents is that they can be applied to software in some countries so things like open source software may come with strings attached that you're not aware of.

>>4768690
>Artists should have 24 years to make money from a work
note: I don't mean that terms should be 24 years minimum, I'd be all for terms as small as like 14 years or even less if it came up.

Also the DMCA is one of the worst IP laws to exist and is part of the problem with modern copyright laws. It's actively hurting security research and enforcement of regulations by allowing companies to hide poorly written software behind it and sue people that try to examine their software.

>>4768690
Software patents are dumb, because the computers already exist. Patenting software is like trying to patent chopsticks because you just figured out how to pick up a single grain of rice with them. You're just saying "look, I found a marginally novel use for this tool that already existed!" The various patents on the processor etc. should already cover it as a "general purpose computing device." Specific software algorithms are just examples of things that computers can generally do. The hardware patents are meaningless if they don't already cover the universal nature of programmable computers, which they obviously do.

Software patents are also pointless because copyright is a better means of protecting the rights of software creators. As it stands, software patents only continue to exist because big companies spend literal billions of dollars suing each other over them. Whoever is currently holding the bag between Google, Oracle, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, etc. would not accept it if we tried to end software patents.

>build woodie
>9.80 intensity

I know it's rideable, and it's the most profitable ride in my park, but it's still a bit of a drag.

>>4768715
The best solution is a relatively short initial term like 14 years, with multiple optional renewals. Make the renewal require a nominal fee (like $100 or something) that doubles with each renewal. This solves the problem of "abandoned" works languishing un-monetized and out-of-print, but it would also be acceptable to the likes of Disney, who could afford to keep Mickey Mouse protected for another century or so.

>>4768720
Post image!

>>4768740

>>4768747
>that lift hill

>>4768732
We as the public do not have to let Disney have exclusive ownership of Mickey Mouse forever nor should we. Copyrights are meant to be a two way street. IP ownership is given to the original creator for a predetermined amount of time so they can profit from it but then after that the work becomes the public's property to inspire new works. Disney created works knowing they'll some day become public but then changed the rules when it came time for them to uphold their side of the deal. All we do by letting Disney hoard their works is let them become more powerful without innovating.

>>4768760
the faster they get to the top of the lift hill the shorter the ride time, meaning more money. Also reaches a greater height in less time

>>4768747

>>4768747
Cursed by Harry Traver.

>>4768818
>>4768864
What's the problem? The ride makes money, after all

>>4768768
>want more money
>build a tall as fuck, 1500 m long woodie
Looks expensive bro

>>4769084
it'll pay for itself in no time with $9 entry fees and all that

>>4769090
Anyway, I don't think anyone doubt that it make money. It's just that it's ugly as fuck.

>>4769095
I was never very good at aesthetics, so I just focus on moneymaking. Speaking of which, I made this so that i can slap it down at the start of scenarios, how is it?

>>4769103
Does it run only one train? Other than that it looks decent enough for money making. But I doubt a woody could ever get close to the cost/earnings rating of say a shuttle loop.

>>4769110
Yeah, it's only one train. Nowhere near as good as shuttle loops or Corkscrew coaster half loops, but more parks start with Wooden Coasters than Looping/Corkscrew

how do i into block brakes

>>4769343
Block breaks stop the train entirely vs regular breaks that slow to a certain speed.

>>4769372
They only stop the train if there is another train in the next stretch or "block" of track (until the next block brakes section). They are the same thing as block signals in Transport Tycoon actually.

>>4767896

Is there a park with a compact Splash Boats design i can steal to slap down for money?

>>4769487
Why not make your own?

>>4769479

>>4767920
>>4767923
A pretty similar thing happened to Descent a while back. One company stopped paying royalties to another, or something. It went back on sale after a year or two of being gone.

>>4768768
maybe
just maybe
you didn't need the height this time

>>4769585
but i wanna go fast

>>4769586

>>4768747
how much is that 360 steep twist contributing to the intensity?

>>4769541
New foodcourt and added a building around the monorail station.

>>4769625
Cool food court. I like the view of the water and the willow trees.

>>4769095
Seriously though I would actually murder people if I could ride Wicker Man at night right fucking now.

>>4769625
>>4769541
>>4769479
I unironically really like how your park is coming along.

>>4769653
>>4769646
Thanks buds.

>>4769668
I really wish I were a billionaire philanthropist that could dump all his money into making a superpark with fucking incredible Disney-tier themeing and a very healthy mix of hundreds of gentle rides, thrill rides, shows, and coasters.

Duerklink Multiplayer server. We all got the same layout and can't change it

I tried to make a compact Standup. I know these things are terrible, but getting stuck with these in research is a drag and I want something I can slap down. How'd I do?

>>4769698
>4.98 Excitement
God why does this coaster type suck so fucking hard?
I have literally never seen a TOGO standup get higher than maybe 6.2 excitement. Is it even possible to achieve 7.5+?

>>4769732
This image just turned 4 years old.

>>4769675
The front arch into the grass could use some foundation I guess. The rest looks nice.

>>4769732
something something Togo standups are rough and terrible in real life too. Maybe with scenery and other rides the excitement could break into High.

>>4769541
If you want realism, keep it easy on drops when building Rapids. Have loads of short drops and one that is like up to 4 track pieces long.

>>4769757
Could probably have made it even better by cramming some more air-time in there.

>tfw OpenRCT2 still don't allow you to set the speed of block breaks

>>4769917
The boat things get going pretty fast and it looks like they should be flung out over the water at the turn at the end, heh. I'm not feeling super autismal over the realism of it but you've planted the seed now.

>>4769920
Adding water features probably would have helped, too.

>>4770564
Does water being nearby actually do something?

>>4770571
Gives Excitement a little boost, yeah.

>>4769732
Years ago I tried to make dueling Standups to prove it was possible to get a good rating, but I was frustrated that the stats didn't even come close to matching and gave up on continuing to improve them.

>>4769732
This is the best one I've ever managed.

https://youtu.be/Rvvt8LVQ9wk
I just found an infinite money bug by accident. Welp.

>decide to update OpenRCT2
>graphics are blurry, have to switch settings
>this specific setting results in a black screen when alt tabbing
>the icon for the cursor while placing details is enormous
>get lower FPS with the same settings

Good thing I kept the old install lads.

>>4771169
are you sure you didn't mess up the window scale?

>>4771180
Yes, had that set the same as well. The black screen while alt-tabbing is the biggest issue really.

It's official, this is the scenario I'm building in first after I complete both games. It's challenging but it looks so good.

On to Katie's World my dudes.

A "basic" giga coaster to take up the far part of land.

>>4771247
Nice work.

>>4771280
I feel like you're making a mistake that I always did by elevating the turns. I'd like to point out that you can use the widest turns in RCT on a giga at over 90 mph and it will be fine.

>>4771313
Yeah I've been realizing it's kind of a crutch. This park is my first time going 100% custom coasters so it's been a learning experience.

>>4765058
Decorated the station and got both to extreme excitement now

>>4765058
>>4771374
Damn nigga that's quite the update.

>>4769732
I don't have screencaps anymore but I broke 7.20 for the 5 Corners /vr/ct scenario.

>>4771350

>>4771603

>>4771350
You can at least make the elevated turns not flat, more like real hypercoasters. They'll spiral so there's airtime entering and exiting the turnaround.

How come sometimes my Go Karts have low excitement? Is the ride time too long?

>>4771859
Do you have lots of tunnels? Having tunnels that are too long can kill an otherwise fine go-kart track.

>>4771869
It's about 60/40 with more track aboveground. Set the laps to 2 and the excitement up by 3 whole points.

Is it frowned upon to autocomplete scenarios when you've met the requirements for them over a year before the deadline?

>>4771880
I don't give a shit, you shouldn't give a shit, nobody should give a shit.

>>4771880
No. That's how speedrunning this game works anyway.

>>4771880
I prefer waiting for the deadline because for something like maintaining park value it can get really god damn hard. I like the challenge.

>>4771880
I prefer to play it out with OpenRCT2's fast forward feature.

>>4771313
From both a looks and a realism standpoint Gigas are one of few coaster types where it makes sense to mix high and low curves at high speeds.

>>4771880
Do how you feel like, it's a game of leisure, IMO

Way to block handymen from lines when? I'm sick as fuck of my handymen roaming through lines and ignoring the actual paths

>>4772027
Set patrol areas you fucking nerd.

>>4772047
how about I set my foot in your ass area bitch

>>4772047
>set partol areas
>the 4x4 grids bleeds into queues

>>4765058
>>4771374
How the hell do you get the excitement rating so high? What kind of sorcery is this?!

>>4772565
Giga coasters are kind of broken as fuck dude

>>4772565
Air time is FREE E and Gigas are air time machines with amazing starting stats.

>>4771374
>0 guests
>year 20
I'm not sure why that made me laugh so much.

>>4771957
This is best because you can skip and it lets you know if your park is actually sustainable.

>accidentally left the game unpaused when I had to go do something
>come back to a failed objective
F U C K

there's no better game than RCT, fight me

>when the researched ride is a variant of the Car Ride/boat hire

Hate these things, they're so terrible

I did another "seaside cliffs" park to pull myself out of a very long slump.

>>4773598

>>4773603

>>4773607

>>4773609

>>4773615
Left side overview.

>>4773618
Right side overview.

>>4773619
Full overview.

Simcity 3000 question: how much does difficulty matter? Is it like SC4 where the hard difficulty actually makes the simulation better or is it just money?

>>4773598
>>4773603
>>4773607
>>4773609
>>4773615
>>4773618
>>4773619
>>4773621
It's actually fucking great.

>>4773607
>triple threaded loop drop
Fucking beautiful.

>>4773789
I've never tried the different modes. I have no idea.

>>4773621
Please share the save file, this is gorgeous.

>>4773889
Here's the completed park and the scenario as well.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9hat6rowta9tv4b/Calypso_Point.sc6
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h1bxfazw4xp2vh3/Calypso_Point.sv6

>>4773598
>first vertical drop is not a hold
Literally unrideable.

>>4773957
I don't like the shape of the drop with the hold breaks on. The train is crawling when it comes out of that tunnel, so there's plenty of suspense.

Has anyone done an "Alice in Wonderland" themed park? It seems like more than half the scenery pieces would suit the theme well which means it could be a mammoth park.

>>4773967
You have to admit, it is at least realistic.

>>4773789
How does hard difficulty improve the simulation in SC4?

>>4774052

In SC4 the difficulty actually modifies the demand for RCI. Easy is like 4x, medium 2x and hard is zero making it the most realistic. If you do easy or medium it can actually completely fuck with both your city and region demands and even more so if each city doesn't have the same difficulty applied to it.

>>4773607

>no modern games on /vr/
>/vg/ too fast for the thread

>>4773789
> Simcity 3000 question: how much does difficulty matter?
Just starting money.
> Is it like SC4 where the hard difficulty actually makes the simulation better or is it just money?
Hard difficulty doesn't make simulation better in SC4. Effects of difficulty in SC4 are starting money (500k/200k/100k), small boost to tax income (+20%/+10%/+0%) and tiny boost to demand (+6%/+3%/+0%).
>>4774195
Non-sense.

>>4774317

https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/32121-difficulty-level/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/wvo80/sc4_differences_between_difficulty_levels/

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/131694/what-other-effects-does-difficulty-have-on-your-simcity?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/917992-simcity-4-deluxe-edition/answers/271348-differences-between-easy-medium-and-hard-level

Ok I was a bit off but still, at least for SC4 difficulty does make a difference. I did some digging and it appears that SC2000 and SC3000 don't change anything side from money you start with.

Can someone tell me how to play OpenTTD with working bot competitors?

>>4775109
Obviously don't use the old TT AI if it's even still in the game. The only half-way decent ones will be user-made AIs that you can find on the in-game content browser. Many of them will only play with "simpler" modes of transit like road vehicles or ships, although I believe there are several that can actually stay in the black with rails. I don't know what they are called off the top of my head because I don't play with AI competitors or follow their development.

Look at some of the recently updated threads in this forum to get an idea of which AIs are still actively being developed. I understand that some users are amusing by starting a game with multiple CPU competitors using different AIs and pitting them against each other to see which works best. You should disable "buying shares" if you want to play with bots by the way.

>>4775154
Whoops, forgot the link to the forum
https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65

>>4775665
May I have a download link for that scenario?

Nice work, I like the Wildcat-type coaster's station and second curving drop under the bridge.

>>4775665
That is certainly indeed cozy.

>>4775685
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mts8zqaqyjhezb7/Cozy%20Cove.sc6

There you go my dude.

>>4775778
Also, to add, it's kindof difficult to actually complete as it's really hard to attract guests and you only have gentle rides to start off.

Man, Dusty Greens is easy as shit

>>4775945
>not beating it in the first month

>>4775778
Thanks Anon.

>having to constantly lower the prices on rides in Corkscrew Follies because the guests' interest in them gradually decays
AHHHHHHHH this is why I like Loopy Landscapes more. Just setting my roller coaster ticket price to $5, not having to worry about micro-adjusting it or my park entrance fee. Too bad the first two RCT's didn't have a "reduce price by $0.10 when >5 guests are thinking 'I'm not paying that much to go on [ride]'"

>>4776067
I just turn value decay off. It's not fun to rebuild rides constantly, especially rollercoasters.

>>4768690
You are right, but unfortunately people don't care. There is a stunning amount of idiots online who defend copyright laws and call you a commie if you say anything bad about them. Which probably isn't completely wrong, the only way we could actually combat it would be to destroy corporations, there is way too much resources and self-interest involved to effectively do this in a democratic way - Disney is a fucking mafia, they'd do anything to save their IPs.
We're going to be seeing endless remakes of Sherlock Holmes for the end of the time and none of the existing media franchises will become the property of the public. Read fanfiction while crying in your cornflakes, probably the best you can get.

>>4775665
Absolutely beautiful.

Does park value actually do something or is it just for those few missions?

>>4776842
It goes up or down depending on the amount of debt you have and how much your rides are worth but other than that it doesn't seem to do anything.

>>4773618
>That hill/drop going through the 3 loops

>it's a Monorail Cycles episode


So these things are 100% worthless right?

>The fucking mine train coaster had a brake failure and killed 16 people
God FUCKING damnit, now I have to rebuild the goddamn ride.

>>4777509
F

>>4777509
>tfw you've been so traumatized by ride crashes since first playing a decade ago

I never EVER allow myself a coaster, that runs multiple trains, to stop at the station > 25 MPH. I believe the speed impact for crashes is about there, definitely 30 MPH.

>tfw you can't tell where patrols are because the entire park is a bridge

>>4777549
It's 30+MPH. I think 30 might be safe, but as long as you're at 29 and under you're golden

>>4777509
R.I.P

>crooked house is unrideable at $1 even though i literally just placed it down

What the fuck is this shit?

Fuck this stupid scenario. Forgot to pause after I went to do something and had to restart.
Shitty research, shitty landscape, shitty dumb Mine Train (>>4777509 was me, by the way), dumb, garbage, gay, dumb.

>Just took a peak at Dinky Park
Uh oh

>>4777641
One of the first memories i have of RCT was watching my dad rename that coaster because it crashed. I swear it's something that'll always happen.

>>4777641
>shitting on The Ultimate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9DMUpiwn3s

>>4777668
RMC when?

>mechanics kept trying to go fix rides that were out of their patrol sections

What's happening?

>>4777675
If the patrol area doesn't encompass the entire station platform/flat ride then sometimes mechanics just won't repair the ride.
If your patrol area reaches to the front of the exit, but the exit itself is not in the patrol area, the mechanic in that area will not fix the ride. You have to select the area under the exit for it to work.

I don't know when OpenRCT broke this because this certainly wasn't the case in the original game, but it was actually a factor that made playing >>4777641 so awful, because ALL of the fucking ride exits in that park are right on the edge of a grid that makes it impossible for a mechanic to fix the ride. It's frustrating because it's so easy to miss.

I just need to learn to click every available patrol square in the area I want the mechanic to go so I can avoid not clicking that one corner of a pathway not being within the patrol area that's hidden by trees that prevents the mechanic from fixing shit.

>>4777692
I know for a fact i had the ride exit itself highlighted

Had enough with Frasier Valley and my dubious limited coaster selection. On to Pacifica Park, which has way more coasters to choose from.

>>4778174
With some trees.

>>4778178
Start of the entrance area. Shockingly similar to my last one...

>>4777673
RMC isn't going to fix something like that, my dude.

>>4777692
Yeah, it used to be that the mechanic only had to go up to the exit for it to count in the patrol.

>>4778393
>that coaster
THERE ARE NO BRAKES ON THIS DEATH TRAIN

>>4778393
Looks like a nice coaster. Lacking breaks however, and it might be hard to build a station building with the track going so close to the platform.

Question time.

>Favorite and least favorite of each ride type, AKA coaster, gental ride, transport, thrill, ect.
>Favorite and least favorite food stall
>Favorite and least favorite theme.
>Favorite and least favorite missions from RCT 1 and 2.
>Favorite and least favorite missions from the custom 4chan parks.

>>4777668
This lift hill is alpine coaster slow.

>>4779183
>Transport
+ Miniature Railway
- Lift lmao
>Gentle
+ Merry-Go-Round
- Crooked House
- Circus
>Coaster
+ GCI Woody (articulated trains)
+ Arrow/Vekoma Looping (Corkscrew)
+ B&M Inverted
- Togo Heartline
>Thrill
+ Enterprise
- 3D Cinema
>Water
+ Log flume
- Submarines
>Stall
+ Pizza stall
- Sea Food Stall
>Theme
+ Trees
- Space theming
>RCT Scenario
+ Hydro Hills
- Crazy Craters
>RCT2 Scenario
+ Rainbow Summit
- Extreme Heights
>4chan Parks
I don't remember the names of them all. I do like Chireno Bayou, Piscine Pond, the Donald Trump ft. IS pier one and image related. I dislike scenarios like Vidya Valley and Ex Nihilo.

>>4779183
>transport
+chaitlift
-elevator
>gentle
+observation tower
-crooked house
-any type of car ride
>coaster
+looping
+twister
-all of the suspended coasters
>thrill
+launched freefall
-bumper boats
>water
+river rapids
-every single one of the water boats that always get stuck
>stall
+pizza
-seafood
>theme
+roman
-scary the one that has the pumpkins
>rct1
Haven't beaten many of them but
+Arid Heights
-Barony Bridge

As for the rest i don't have much experience with them.

>>4779313
Ex Nihilo, and really all of the super high park value parks, just end up like pic related.

>>4779313
>claim to hate 3D cinema
>there's 3 of them in his park

>>4778709
It's not THAT intense!

>>4779085
I'm still a building nublet so I doubt it would have been very big if I was going to make one anyway. Thanks for getting that idea into my head more, though, will have to be careful of that when I do make some buildings.

>>4779389
tfw have to go to work instead of detail virtual theme parks

>>4779551
How long have you been playing? Your park is looking really good for a novice, I especially like the paths and surrounding scenery.

>>4779564
I've been playing RCT since 2001 abouts. Got it in a box of Cheerios. Have many memories growing up playing the game in the summer, and as the weather is getting nicer here it's been pulling up all sorts of old memories and associations. Being alive is crazy.

I've only recently had how to make an okay coaster "click" in my mind so they don't have 999999 intensity and low excitement. Always liked detailing with doodads but in these most recent parks I've been taking my time in free builds vs scenarios. I've never dabbled with making larger buildings in parks however, so that's something I want to try with this park.

>load up scenario
>already built coaster has decent ratings
>5 seconds later it instantly ticks over to 11 intensity and the excitement plummets

What the fuck is going on?

>>4779596
Well, you say you haven't mastered big buildings, but I love what that pagoda area around the entrance of your jr coaster has turned into. Multiple detached outbuildings and winding paths through pretty gardens is absolutely perfect for that theme. Only additional thing I would suggest adding is some water. Maybe a small pond in that empty area between the hedgerow and the station, or a little creek with some rocks and a bridge over it like the cute queue bridge over that bit of track.

>Have many memories growing up playing the game in the summer, and as the weather is getting nicer here it's been pulling up all sorts of old memories and associations
This is totally a real thing and I know exactly what you mean. They say that smells are one of the biggest triggers of memories, and maybe that is part of it, but for me it's feeling when the late-Spring sunlight finally starts to feel really warm and the air starts to feel humid that immediately brings me back to games I used to play at that time of year.

Tip for big buildings: try to avoid making them too tall with large rectangular walls unless you want them to look like barns. That's one of the reasons why your pagoda area looks so good: it matches the scale of the peeps in your park.

>>4779551
>>4779628
Building on these ideas, consider raising the terrain under the farther turnaround and adding a small pond. Not only would it add to the theme and look good, having water beneath your ride increase excitement.

>>4779628
Thanks buddy. Scale in these kinds of things is a major autism point for me. It's funny you mention adding the small pond as I was considering doing just that, like it's where the dirt was dug up to create the "man-made" hills around the coaster. I absolutely plan on having some more water-based terrain features with paths, bridges etc elsewhere in the park. I like the pagoda theme and will be using it for a few areas/coasters.

More on scale, I managed a Minecraft city build project for about four years called "Broville v11". I was very particular about the scale of things in the whole project. I'm sure I irritated many of the people who contributed to it by putting the brakes on all sorts of grandiose builds that didn't fit with the scale. I shunned most gaudy large things to be made underground and out of sight. The first building made in the entire map was the tallest skyscraper in the downtown core, which set the scale for everything else in the "Broville universe" to keep the map internally consistent. I also feel like a lot of detailing experience to come out of that endeavour has helped with my detailing in RCT.

I'm 28 now, but sometimes when I'm playing OpenRCT2 it feels like I'm 13 again in my old room at my parents house playing RCT. Especially so if I have some music on from the time as well.

>>4779707
>I'm 28 now
Same. I'm so relieved that retro gaming is seen mostly as an adult hobby these days.

>>4777668
No fucking wonder this (had?) has the world record for longest coaster in the world: it's balls as slow, but pleasant.

>>4779745
>the world record for longest coaster in the world
The longest coaster in the world is Steel Dragon 2000, an absolute monstrosity of a ride build by the son of the founder of Arrow. The best thing with the ride is that it's loud enough to drown out Robb Alveys obnoxious screaming.

>>4779183
>Transport
+Railway or Monorail
Literally what the fuck are you doing, nigger-tier: Elevator
>Gentle
+Tie between Carousel and Car Ride
-FUCK building mazes
>Coasters
+Traditional Woodies for aesthetics and Twister for versatility
-Literally anything by TOGO, and the Mini Suspended Flying Coaster
>Thrill Rides
+Go Karts
-3D Cinema
>Water rides
+Rapids
-Submarines
>Food stalls
+Burger, because I would love to see a stand like that IRL
-Iced Tea, simply because it's iced tea
>Themeing
+Honestly, you can build a very nice looking park with just the basic first 6 default tabs, and it's what I use the most.
-Literally fucking anything from the RCT2 expansions.
>RCT
I haven't played through them all yet, but if I have to rate the few I played:
+Trinity Islands
-Katie's World
>RCT2
+++++++Ghost Town
-------Gravity Gardens
>4chan parks
I've only played though Chireno Bayou.

>>4779707
What the fuck you were the one that started Broville?
Jesus

>>4779389
He wasn't talking about intensity. That's a station brakes failure crash waiting to happen.

>>4777509
Speaking of crashes, I honestly want to hear everyone's first experience with a ride in RCT outright crashing and killing people, I know the first time it was with a dingy ride and I was just shocked that the game actually stated that the passengers died.

>>4780283
I honestly don't remember, it was so long ago. I only remember intentionally launching looping coaster trains for the lulz.

>>4780283
>make shitty coaster because i have zero clue what i'm doing
>instantly open it because i have zero clue what i'm doing
>loud as fuck BOOM
>never build coasters unless they're premades

It made me paranoid and i thought some scenarios were hardcoded to have a crash unless you tore down the ride, which i ended up doing. Of course, that just killed profit hard.

>>4779760
Longest in this case is referring to ride time rather than track length.

>>4779731
It helps that RCT has aged like a fine wine.

>>4779901
Yep, that's me. It's on my autism resume.

>>4780116
Oh dear, thanks for pointing that out. Been flirting with disaster for so long on so many coasters, ignorance is bliss.

>>4780456
Made a castle around Sir Spinsalot and the bathrooms.

>>4780283
I set the speed on the launch tower too high.

>>4780654
Love the idea of a bathroom castle, but you should be able to walk around on the second floor.

>>4780659
Shit I didn't think of that. I'll try to make it work.

>>4767651
>Frasier Valley
Heavily in debt, your objective is to un-JUST this park's finances.

>>4776842
>>4776957
A higher park value draws in more guests.

>>4777549
>>4777578
Also take into account that a full load will enter the station at a slightly higher speed than an empty train.

Gotta say, I'm really not a fan of Canary Mines.

>coasters that'll crash if the brakes fail
>shitty bridges and tunnels everywhere
>uneven as shit making building a pain

>>4780659
Put a lemonade stall on top for laughs.

>>4780682
Lol, I've been watching all of Frasier through while making the landscape and park.

>>4780651
They're certainly not popular IRL, either. Only two are left, and only one of the flying type was ever made.

>>4765058

Decided to start working on the entrance area. I like how it looks so far.

>>4780768
If you're going to keep the castle motif throughout the whole park, it might be better to hide the 3D Cinema dome, it's a bit out of place.

>>4780768
Ignore the other guy, I like the way it looks in the middle of those castle walls.

>>4780283
Station brakes failure at Diamond Heights.

>>4779183
>Transport
+Monorail
-School Bus Trains on Miniature Railway
>Gentle
+Dodgems
-Monorail Cycles
>Coaster
++Hyper-Twister
-Water Coaster (fuck you 5 Corners)
>Thrill
+Go karts
-Top Spin
>Water
+Log Flume
-Water Tricycles
>Shop
+Fries Shop
-Candy Apple
>Theme
+Mine Theme
-Wonderland Theming
>RCT1 Scenario
+Thunder Rock
-Rainbow Valley
>RCT2
+Bumbly Bazaar
-Rio Carnival
>Custom 4chan
++Set Sail For Hail
-Asian Island
So many nice parks in that pack, but Set Sail For Hail is simply the one landscape that sticks out in my memory.

>>4780869
>rio carnival

More like "spend 30 minutes deleting paths and balloon stalls"

>>4780757
This might be a very minor thing but anyway:
For the fence that cuts of the path in front of the portcullis, there's actually a fence piece in the same style with a small opening in it that would better there.

>>4780869
>-Top Spin
Explain yourself.

>>4780884
do you like puke machines? because that's what they are.
There, I said what everyone was thinking.

>when the launched freefall is researched

>>4780898
They may be nausea incarnate but theyre also a classic and a magnificent bit of engineering.

>>4780757
Wow, the lemonade stall actually fits very well with the castle theme. Good call with the awnings adjacent to it, although maybe some colors other than shit brown and piss yellow would look good.

>>4780768
I love the interacting tracks over the water and the covered bridge.

>just started playing Pickle Park
>google the name
>image related
Did he know?

>you can charge more than double E for a new drop tower
I can't believe how I failed at earning money in pay for ride parks as a kid.

>>4781551
I think it's best to charge equal to intensity for Launched Freefalls. As for pay to ride parks, you probably were used to charging money for entry at the same time, which I'm pretty sure makes guests unwilling to pay much for rides.

Name my Woody. Also, should I put shrubbery on top of the white support structure at the food court?

>>4781828
Of course you add shrubbery

>>4780883
Thanks, I'll fiddle with it some more.

>>4781443
Yeah it turned out alright. I fit in another castle wall on the one side of the lemonade stand to at least fill part of it in.

Posting my amazing city from SC3K for teh lulz
Here's the CBD

The amusement park is on top of the hill. To the northeast residential zones, to the northwest there's industry.

Industry, airport(s), spaceport, waste disposal and power.

Large commercial area. Outside the ring highway which circles the city and is the only highway, there's a bit more industry, plus more airport.

Massive residential areas south of the river.

Modelled after the museum island in Berlin, the island has no zoned areas, but instead the university, medical research center, geyser, museums, hospitals and parks.

>>4781893
>for teh lulz
You have to go back to 2008.

The city is crisscrossed by railways. Gotta have good public transit to maintain that high density.

Also the more recent subway system (same view as previous pic), complementing the railways.

Industrial areas don't need subways, but there's an "express line" to the airport.

Pollution is more or less under control despite the continuous high density.

Highly educated workforce to get mostly clean industry.

That's kinda it, anything else you want to see about my pride and joy?

>>4781938
Good work!

>>4781938
>all those empty tiles on land and hillside without trees or extra parks for detailing

>>4781939
thanks familia
at this point I've become bored with sc3k, because once the growing pains are overcome I basically go into sandbox mode
I've been playing the shit out of that game literally since it came out, back in the day I bought a physical copy kek

>>4781947
Most of the empty tiles are sloped so can't put parks there, but you're right about the trees.

>>4781949
>back in the day I bought a physical copy kek
Counting expansions, I own at least 7 physical copies of RCT1/2 and 1 digital of each. And I've pirated them both uncountable times.

>>4781964
I really want to like RCT, I used to love it, but I just can't get into it anymore, WHY???

>>4780770
>>4780768
>not wanting to guard the sacred orb

>>4781970
Have you tried playing for the pure enjoyment of just making a nice park without any restrictions on time and budget?

>>4781970
Embrace the autism, build for looks instead of completing scenarios.

>>4781995
>>4781998
Artistic expression-mind.

>5 months left
>need 450 more peeps
>no advertising allowed
>research keep giving me crap like Virginia Reel when I need a B&M
I'm starting to feel doubt.

>>4782153
Also,
>no fucking park awards

>>4779183
>Transport
+Mini Railway
-Elevator
>Gentle
+Merry Go Round
-Ferris Wheel
>Coaster
++Woodies
+Hyper-Twister
-All the singe-rail coaster types (Steeplechase and Mini Suspended in particular)
>Thrill
+Go Karts
+Scrambled Eggs/Twister
-3D Theater
>Water
+Log Flume
-Water Slide or Boat Hire, can't really decide
>Stall
+Info Kiosk
-Seafood, I guess?
>Theme
+Abstract
+Wonderland
+Mine
-All of the ones from the RCT2 expansions
>RCT1 Scenario
+Most of the "Build 10 coasters of X excitement" scenarios
-Aqua Park
>RCT2 Scenario
+Crazy Castle
-Most of the ones from the expansions
>4chan Scenarios
I actually haven't downloaded any of them.

Nu coaster. Going to make a bigger castle around the stations for the coaster and car ride.

>just got done researching the worthless steeplechase
>motorbike races is right after

How come my purchaseable construction rights/land vanish when i select construction rights? I have to quit and reload to see the purchaseable land, but i can't see where construction rights are no matter what

>>4782246
seriously this is a huge problem

>>4782209
Nice city, but 4 isn't retro.

>>4782251
>>4782246
Updating fixed the unseeable rights, but i still can't buy the path, so i have no option but to cheat

>>4782269
you could never buy rights or land over the path

>>4782258
okey sry

>slap down one of the custom compact coasters i made after updating
>it's a full 3 points lower in excitement, despite having scenery

Alright, what the fucking hell is going on? Why is my coaster worse?

>>4782275
Yeah but i can't even build over it, and i recall being able to do so on Haunted Harbor

>have to save scum
>have to lock peeps in the park
>finally get an award with 1 month to go
>break 1400 peeps 4 days before scenario end
>finish with a park rating of 625
Wew

>>4782223
Made some castle. I kind of wish I went cheshire cats for the car ride but oh well.

>>4782292
Desperate times call for practical and reasonable measures.

>>4782292
>get another award while tidying up, 2 weeks into year 4
I'm officially mad.

>>4782297
Backside angle. Still need to finish the car detailing.

>>4782318
Do park awards do anything aside from being cosmetic?

>>4763628
Its stupid that the player gets coerced to do this actually. The money stream and this stratagy should have equal rate of cash flow, or closing and reopening should have less

>>4781926
What's the use of all of the subway to rail connectors?

>>4782251
Land rights over park entrance paths is something that broke in RCT2.

This park's a pain, it's pretty small and hilly, and I constantly misjudge bridge heights. It also becomes cramped as all hell near the end.

>>4782706
I forgot how much of a pain in the ass Haunted Harbor is.

>>4782340
These are fun to make.

>>4782735
A larger landscaping project to work on...

>>4782789
Why do I get the fear that guests will get stuck in it?

>>4782798
We'll find out soon enough.

>>4782789
Asian food court with temple to food deity.

>>4782692
They work like regular train stations but take up just one tile (and they look nice and not like a freight depot).

>>4781995
>>4781998
It's what I usually do, I just get bored rather quickly these days. I want to build a yuge, beautiful park in the BYO Six Flags park, recommend me a set of sceneries that will allow for a nice series of themes, maybe coherent with each other (like countries or time periods).

completed Paradise Pier on multiplayer with BlueBalled c:

>>4782927
Alternate angle.

>>4782937
Do I see one of these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if6cMoOnF5c

>>4782497
Yeah, they increase park rating and draw more guests. It's like free advertising, but better.

>>4767453
Reminder to vote if you haven't already done so!

>>4782927
>>4782937
How do peeps exit that mine cart thing?

>>4782984
Disabled clearance checks allow for things to overlap.

>>4783039
Wait, you can put the entrance and the exit in the same spot? This changes everything!

>>4783041
the exit was moved with the tile inspector to be under one of the end track pieces. I tried overlapping them but it broke multiplayer with a lot of desyncing

>>4783093
>I tried overlapping them but it broke multiplayer with a lot of desyncing
But it works in single player?

>>4783109
I think so, you can't place them on top of each other in construction mode, but with the tile inspector you can copy and paste an entrance/exit, delete the old one, and set the new one as functional

What are some things that instantly put you off of a scenario? Be it poor ride selection, the goal you have to reach, or the landscape itself.

>>4783902
Always the objective, though no wooden coasters and tiny build areas are a bit off putting.

>>4783902
Answering my own question, no tree removal/height restrictions are the major ones.

>>4783902
>You need 3000 guests by the end of Year 3

I like how these sorts of goals don't have a time limit. Probably could have gotten this goal complete even quicker if i tried harder.

>>4784090
I love Vertigo Views for that reason, you can make a very extensive park, or beat it quickly if you want.

>>4784090
It feels like a crime to not redesign the hypercoaster after the second airtime hilll.

>>4783902
Having landscaping or scenery/rides protected under local authority, just annoys me and I feel justified cheesing with shovelware corkscrews and splash boats, if not outright 8cars fuckery.
Thankfully, IIRC, the RCT2 WW scenarios that have those restrictions aren't that hard or slow.

I remember there being a stone wall texture in RCT1 that's not in OpenRCT2, is there something I can do to get it?

Here's a bank with 4 fountains in front of it.

>>4784325
Rich ass niggas.

>>4784108
This desu, it's up there with Dynamite Blaster when it comes to amazing concepts that need to be fixed.

>>4784325
I like this alot for some reason.

>>4782857
New hypercoaster.

>>4784415
What's wrong with Dynamite Blaster?

>>4784456
>Dynamite Blaster has crashed!

>>4784451
Not happy with this one pushing red but it's ok otherwise.

What's going on here?

Even once you become loaded enough to afford a lot of land, there's not much of it. Eventually things become such a clusterfuck you can't even see stuff. There really should be a "see through this specific ride" option. Either way it's a fun scenario aside from more or less being forced to lead off with Launched Freefalls for cash

>>4784725
I don't know what to build at the end of the park entrance path.

>>4784783
What a strange error.

>>4784887
Themed alley with a couple flat rides.

>>4783902
>ywn go on The Room 3D at Universal Studios
>ywn witness Tommy Wiseau leap from the screen and land right on your ride vehicle in breathtaking special effects.

>>4784939
Yeah kind of had to be flat rides... Fanciest Roman bumper cars.

>>4784990
>there will never be Johnnyfrontation where you take the MUNI and watch Johnny destroy SF.
>No Disaster Artist: the Ride where acting employees help guests re-enact scenes from The Room.
Fuck Nu-Universal Studios rides with 3d screens and spray effects, they defeat the whole purpose to go to a theme park. US: Orlando used to have so much cool stuff, I've only been there twice but have such great memories of the attractions especially in comparison to how disappointing Disney-MGM was in comparison back then. Fucking hell I miss old Epcot, though, nothing tops that in terms of theming and attraction quality.

>tfw never been to an actual theme park that wasn't some small place or a waterpark

Are the lines as horrendous as i think they are?

>>4784993

>>4785026
I remember at Six Flags Magic Mountain in the line for X there was a marker that said "at this point the wait is 4 hours". Thankfully I was not there on a day like that.

>>4785029
That just sounds miserable, and i thought the 50 minutes for one rollercoaster at some small place was bad

>>4785026
Not if you plan things out and are willing to avoid the most hyped rides outside of peak hours. >>4785029, like this, I remember when X became X2 and the line was 3 hours all the time, but Colossus and Goliath were 25 minutes. (And Viper has been a sub 10 minute wait coaster for a decade outside of the school field trip days)

>>4785035
I've never seen worse than an hour at magic mountain but I don't go there when it gets crazy. If you wisely choose the day of your visit, you should never see a line longer than an hour, the typical being more like 30-45 minutes. You should be able to get your fill in a day, but definitely be in line when the front gates open.

Last years flash sale had $100 season flash pass for renewing members. That could actually be worthwhile if you go often enough.

Just did the WW China Scenario, but it's so pathetic that it's not even worth taking a screenshot. Terrible land layout, can't mess with terrain, no new rides, so i just slap down a ton of prebuilt rides and win to get it over with

>>4763617
I just couldn't do it guys.

>>4785085
>that awful realization a decade ago that the WW/TT expansions "expanded" nothing to the game except pretty, out-of-place reskins of rides and nice scenarios to just look at

>>4785113
RCT2 is fundamentally is bugfixes and optimization in what is a rehash sequel. I don't hold bias that it isn't anything more than it is, because reinventing the core of the game would not have gone well.
Very few people actually 'bought' these content expansions anyway unless it was part of a big sale or school book fair.

>>4782789
Finished detailing this pathway.

>>4785113
What, you don't like more reskins of the Car Ride?

>>4785113
It's a shame Frontier was never given more assets to work with.

>>4785126
That is really pretty. I like the use of the shapes.

>>4782497

Yes. Positive ones actually increase guest turnout while negative ones do the opposite.

>>4785089
This has banner potential.

What resolution do you guys play with?

>>4785697
640x480

>>4785697
I play on a TI-80 calculator screen.

>>4785137
Oh yes, sure, along with Bubonic Plague Rat Bobsled.

What the fuck is this shit.

>>4785770
>bobsled and its reskins

Hate coming across these things in parks/research, not a fan of having to painstakingly design every single hill and turn so that they don't go up in hellfire. Not to mention they can't reasonably go very fast meaning the ratings are mediocre.

Does anybody have the rolling rando scenero image; if so I’d really appreciate it.

Speaking of Bobsleighs, does anyone know the requirements for getting decent E? 2.5 seems awful low considering the speed, length etc of this one.

>>4785825
It might be placement based or something, I have no idea. I tried slapping down a prebuilt i made in the designer and it had 3 whole less excitement than when i designed it/put it down in Barony Bridge. Placed the low excitement one pretty high up off the ground, maybe that has something to do with it?

>>4785825
Was playing through Evergreen Gardens and just built this one earlier today. Seems that taking a risk with hills pays off, and it helps to have some stretches of straight track to recuperate after twisting and turning through helixes.

I notice that with a lot of ambitious mega coasters I like to build: allow some breathing room of straight tracks to keep Nausea low and Excitement high.

>>4785848
I don't want hills. Not because of crashes, but because it's not realistic. Same reason I don't want a 2km long Bobsleigh, though I don't think length is the problem as I have prebuilt with 6E that's 200m shorter than mine. Different coaster types have different requirements that result in a huge E penalty if they're not met, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is for the bobsleigh.

>>4785878
Well, other than being shorter, your coaster also has 0.00 secs of airtime and only 1 counted drop. Maybe you should try to add one airtime hill near the beginning, and a couple small drops in other parts of the coaster for speed boosts.

I do like how yours hugs the ground, it looks much more realistic and aesthetic than the other one. Just gotta get those numbers up.

Hello everyone. Perhaps the wrong thread to ask in, but you all seem quite knowledgeable about the City Builder genre, so may get lucky. Basically, I'm after a city builder which allows the following -

1. Free build - no resource expenditure, I can place buildings and infrastructure wherever I want.
2. Individual building placement - no zones or relying or development over time, I can choose which building unit to place where.
3. No population or population requirements.

Bonus for isometric view and the ability to import assets/modified unit textures.

Basically, I want to build a virtual city model/diorama. Any suggestions are much appreciated.

>>4785921
Sounds like you want to play a city builder like Caesar or Pharaoh but with an infinite money cheatcode.

>>4785925
I think you've identified that I'd like to have Caear/Pharohs individual unit placement system, but I don't think it's quite what I'm after. The downsides of those games are -

1. Each building in that game serves a strict gameplay function that has no relevance to the outside world. You could build a city using it, but it's not a very realistic city. Does that make sense? I kind of just want "unit buildings" of different sizes and looks, like a building that looks like an office block or high rise flats.
2. Following on from that point, the aesthetic doesn't appeal - I'm more aiming for a modern realistic or slight futuristic unit look like SimCity.

I guess it's less game, and more model city diorama builder. Probably the best way to describe it - imagine someone building a model city in real life, placing individual buildings in a pattern that they want; now take that and make it virtual.

>>4786014
Cities Skylines or SimCity Societies.

Skylines has basically no depth outside of traffic management.

>>4785825
>>4785848
Adding to the bobsled collection + some other surrounding rides. Also taken in Evergreen Garden (One of my favorite scenarios)

>>4786027
Water your fucking flowers

>>4786019
Cities Skylines has zoning placement. I would like unit individual placement. Societies is even worse - that whole game is about the population aspects.

Look, clearly a city MODEL building game doesn't exist so I'll drop it.

>>4786035
Why don't you just learn to 3d model in Unity or something and make renders of these cities you want to create? Try a building game like Minecraft or something and make your own city? Don't get mad at us because of your incredibly specific parameters.

>>4785697
Native 1920x1200 but I scale up to 150% in OpenRCT2.

>>4785921
SimCity 3000 has a special cheat that opens huge list with all possible buildings in the game (including housing, commerce, industry), you can use it.

>>4786035
Societies has a mode (when creating new game, you don't even need to cheat) that has unlimited money and no building requirements, specially for people like you. You can build whatever you want just for aesthetics.

>>4785825
https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2/blob/develop/src/openrct2/ride/RideRatings.cpp#L2055
You're probably not meeting the min speed and length requirements.

>>4785347
Thank you. I've never really used the card suits bushes before and the tiers in the hill worked nicely to get them all in there. Used them again here for the new food court.