/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[05-08] Deep learning AI generating Doom maps
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611072/ai-generates-new-doom-levels-for-humans-to-play/

[05-04] Champions, a compatibility-friendly monster variant mod, now 1.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[05-03] Anon's ZScript video tutorials
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4744020/#4748086

[04-30] PROJECT ILE version 0.23 released
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4741726
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e52z704ui56acjm/Project%20ILE.rar

[04-27] Powerslave EX Revival "not far" according to lead developer
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/989945964831105024

[04-27] Further details of upcoming DOOM movie
https://geektyrant.com/news/doom-reboot-reportedly-has-a-director-and-lead

[04-26] FreeDoom maps, as PWADs
https://mega.nz/#F!j0cgkJKT!QXo16jxgK1iQf-92Sx1gdA

[04-26] func_msgboard is having a 100-brush mapping contest
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61565

[04-26] New Q1SP map, Mire Prison by jcr - feedback requested
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1iwq_lBPaEDxqee4Qr430fCequXNyx3Fs

[04-26] Anon map release: Old Research Sector
https://mega.nz/#!AVcwWADK!qxrEr7yMG_TxYLyfqxOohQJtszlT2k_9vt4NlL9CMxQ

[04-25] A new beta for Brutal Doom v21 released:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta

[04-24] Dimension of the Boomed, a Quake themed mapset currently in beta.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed-beta2-release/

[04-23] Babel 4-23-2017 update, mostly bug fixes.
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

[04-23] Mr. Friendly alpha release, turns Doom into "an Animal Crossing-like nonviolent social space"
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[04-22] Anon mod release: CLANG.wad, replaces every sound with CLANG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4k2bxhorxb4vyo/CLANG.wad?dl=1

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>>4758496
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mtmGjNKrVSPF/
God help me eventually it will finish processing.

trufax

>>4758506
why are you posting this again.

>>4758508
>"Why do you post doom stuff in doom threads?"

>>4758515
that's clearly not the issue here, are you gonna answer the question or not?

>Gore mod in other thread

I think what will finally get things moving away from Brutal is not only the addition of fancier gore mods, but more alt-death type animations for weapons and monsters. The "feedback" BD gives it's players is a major part of why it is so successful, Term did a pretty good job of discussing this in relation to weapons on his channel but I think it applies to all facets of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-xxGkkWPs&t=10s

So nice job to the guy with the green plasmagun.

>>4758519
There isn't a "question" to answer that's worth answering. We're still not appointing you hall monitor.

>>4758508
>>4758519

>>4758518
>zdoom developers

why *is* he like this?
he's /g/ to the core

>>4758530
>>4758539
Something I'm working on
you may wish to read "hellstar remina" to get why it's called "reminara forest"

>>4758518
fixed

>>4758540
Oh cool, you're the trees guy right?

Looks promising.

>>4758545
Are you an idiot? That's completely wrong!

Zdaemon should be a solid white bar

>>4758553
OH I'M SORRY YOU'RE RIGHT!

>>4758551
i'm trees as fuck man
let's make some beautiful sector-somethings.
Hopefully it lives up to your desires; I'm kind of still sketching things out. (see next post)

>>4758560

so what map is this?

>>4758568
same as: >>4758164
>>4755365
>>4758164
>>4755571
>>4758564
>>4758540

>>4758573
think i missed some
>>4755320
>>4755321
>>4755365
>>4755347

>>4758564
Looks alright, you can map quicker than I can since you had a draft yesterday.

Two things I'd suggest, I saw a tip from an anon here a long time ago that they make organic themed levels in Oblige and see how it looks for flow, it's one of the things that wad maker is good at. Don't copy it like a scrub, though.
Besides, it's unmatched at lighting in outdoor areas.

Another thing I'd try is reading the monster placement essays that are around, this is what I mean.

https://realm667.com/index.php/en/tutorials-mainmenu-138
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/73964-essayarticle-monster-placement/

This stuff is literally perfect for reading on the toilet. I love reading doom tips/tutorials and what people think about levels in general, fascinating stuff.

>>4758506
The first two "levels" are the same map. This is dumb.

>>4758578
Also, check out the repository on Realm667, they have a pretty cool skull tree there you might like.

>>4758582
I pulled a couple of the trees off of that site.

why is freedoom so ugly?

>>4758586
Noice.
Anyway friend gotta go, best of luck with it all.

>>4758589
Cheers lad.

>>4758587
Freetards can't into aesthetics. I'm sure they could make it less ugly if they weren't deliberately trying to be "not doom".

What's the best (practical) way to get the Doom 64 experience?

>>4758592
Download a Doom 64 ROM and Doom 64 EX.

>>4758596

Aren't there remakes and enhanced versions though?

>>4758592
doom 64 ex or doom 64 retribution (for gzdoom)
youll eventually want both because there are level sets and mods made for both

>>4758590
supplimentary to anybody else intrested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1wZH_WNs
whttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/HellstarRemina

i cant be bugged to compile all the images
i just wonder what an actual doom map by junjo ito would be like

>>4758605
junji ito* fuck

>>4758545
>>4758560
Holy fuck don't remind me of that shitty preference ZDaemon players have for gamma on 3.0

>>4758496
>[05-08] Deep learning AI generating Doom maps
I want to play the maps to see if they're worth a damn.

>>4758609
too late cap'n.

>>4758615
I am mapping atm while leaving a tab open on this thread, forgot to check more often Ç_Ç

>>4758618
We's all mapping down here bossa massta
well, except for my current block.

>>4758623
I'm not mapping. I'm making guns.

>>4758626
You're a gun.

>>4758609
But why they like it so much? It's not appealing at all.

This is my face when I walk into the next map
> 3% health
> shotgun sergeants are sitting right there
> my selected weapon was the ssg

>>4758639
Well you se-
MY EYES!
MY EYES!!!!

>>4758641
and the rest of this map will be popup chaingunners and countless ambushes, great
> entered map with 3% health

>>4758495
There was one map I remember playing that was the epitome of "What did that switch do?" I can't for the life of my remember which map it was though. Think it was in Doom 64.

>>4758660
there was a megasphere, I got to it just in the nick of time

>>4758671
Something in Eternal Doom?

>>4758629
say to my barrel end fucker not my magazine see what happens

>>4758674
Well of course, why else do you thik caco is smile?

>>4758564
I T H U R T S, N E S S

They'll bury you in a lunchbox!

>>4758761
Put that thing away before you hurt yourself
> no seriously, he's got better body armor than the enforcers
> you can only kill bosses with explosives

>>4758703
Oh, I didn't think of that.

also if you wish to see the video you'll have to break it oppen yerself
https://www.mediafire.com/file/o8u95fdd98zj8w6/2018-05-07+21-35-28.flv

saw this today, how accurate is it?

>>4758780
Are you the DoD guy? The one who did the Joel map?

I'm about to play 2002: A Doom Odyssey, should I play the original or the 10th anniversary version?
I've no idea if there's any important changes between the two

>>4758792
I don't even understand what it means.

>>4758797
No, I'm the other dude with a map in the joel map thing. I got tired of waiting for my map to be played so I could harvest feedback.

>>4758792
>no RPG or resurrection of evil
>but brutal doom

>>4758889
no god today. just me.

Does anyone else think Doomguy's punch looks like he's fist pumping to the music?

>>4758934
I always thought he was doing mouth puppets
I wished he equipped googly eyes instead of brass knuckles

>>4758934

My favorite things are weapon mods where the punch alternate hands. Because when you start running really fast down a hall and you hold down fire, it looks like he's fist-pumping real fast.

>>4758934
If you do it repeatedly and to a fitting track.

>>4758970
That seems like something Sgt. Shivers would do.

>>4758934
I was always pissed that his arm isn't more jacked and he isn't wearing gloves.

Look at how ripped he is on the cover of DooM big box. He definitely has gloves too.

>>4758973
Nothing can beat doing the monkey though.

>>4758984
I find it fits well with Aliens, say your prayers! Though that's a Duke 3D track

>>4758797
I hate being a nickfag because it's super close to being a tripfag but I usually try to make you guys know when it's me. Right now I'm trying to think of ideas for an Out of the Silent Planet map, so far I have the title screen done.

Haven't posted in these threads for a longtime because I've been busy with other hobbies and finishing other games. I really want to get done with my backlog.

>>4758998

>>4758506
For the longest time I remember testing all gameplay mods in MAP31 of JPCP.

cleaned this up a bit.

>>4758993
That's probably why so many mods give him his gloves during the punching animations.

>>4759056
Can you apply a similar shake effect to this image and make it a .gif?

>>4759076
I also always wondered why he has gloves for a few weapons but others he doesn't. Damn ID had to screw a few things up so people would remember they are human.

Does Doom 64 have different layouts depending on their difficulty?

I'm super stuck on level 13: Dark Citadel, and all the walkthroughs i'm seeing seem to show the level i'm stuck on beingvery similar, but this room which supposedly has an elevator to the blue key is full of these statues that spit out darts if you press the switch in the room, and don't appear to do anything else. I'm losing my mind on this level there's nothing else to explore.

>>4759130
I know for sure that items are placed differently depending on difficulty.

>>4758857
Can we play your map now? I wanna play it before Joel streams it, because that would be cool.

>>4759114
I'm pretty sure it's only the fist that doesn't have gloves, and that one makes sense because he's got brass knuckles and they probably don't fit over the gloves.

>>4759160
It's kind of barebones and you can tell where I had to cut stuff for time, but I guess.
Bunch of issues and a few things I wanted to do/didn't know how to/were far too difficult; but felt that messing with the map much more would ultimately end up making it worse; such as the portal which I figured out how to get working properly; but the way it's set up in the map would require ripping it apart and remaking; something I wasn't in the time nor mood for.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgvqzoprphr37tl/Incident666%20%28Readme%20and%20Comic%20within%29.pk3?dl=0

>>4759229
This is the joel map; mind.
Not entirely satisfied with it; but I felt I did what I could within the restrictions

Am I tripping or does Heretic really have 99 textures?

The megasphere/pizza sound in Demonsteele is fucking disgusting

>>4759229
I'm aware I missed a lot of credits.

>the only two people with access to id's rpg games' files gave up making gzdoom ports for a port with almost every iwad and official doom map, that was already playable in some ways
>they soon gave that up too, to work on spriting doom 64's cut monsters
And people say Term has a thing for unfinished WIP's

>>4758495
Are there any good Doom-related discord servers? Preferably the ones with people developing things.

>>4758495
This OP picture takes me back...

>>4759349
I miss doombro. His doodles and comics give me life.

>>4759335
show me a modder who finishes everything he works on and i'll show you a liar

it's the curse of creativity, inspiration and ideas come and go, and not every idea that seems cool ends up working in practice

>>4759378
>it's the curse of creativity, inspiration and ideas come and go, and not every idea that seems cool ends up working in practice

Wisdom.
But you forgot the other part of the curse friend.
That no artist can ever create everything they dream up, the rate at which they imagine will always surpass how fast they can work.

>>4759387
The best thing to do is writing down the ideas not to lose track of them. Then again, when working on something, those ideas change, evolve, turn into something else or don't work at all. It's the beauty of developing a project, there's some sort of "organic" artistic development that makes your work feel alive.

>>4759393
True, I have a "doom ideas" book that's 10 years old. Full of old sketches and ideas, some get recycled, others not used at all, others used almost entirely.

I guess if I die (and am famous) somebody can just upload the whole thing somewhere. You're right too it does feel nice to move the brain fluids around like this. I can spend half an hour just staring at the pages, mentally moving things around in my mind until eureka moments.

>Hear an elevator or door open up when passing a certain linedef.
>Cannot fucking find where the hell it is.

Who are the best scripters in the Doom community?

I've got some technical stuff in my levels and some of them haven't actually been implemented in level sets that I have seen and I've realized that while I can implement "visual" parts of a level, the "behind the scenes" stuff is just painful and I'd like to hit some people up for help given how easily some folks have pulled things off.

>make maps
>people play them
>they only ever play on UV first time every time
>say they're too hard
>don't want to sound like a prick saying "try not playing on hardest?"

>>4759229
Welp, gg anyone who wanted to see this finished. If you like the idea I'd recommend you just download it and finish it yourself before he chimps out and deletes everything. This guy is more predictable than the rising sun.

>>4759503
Fucking streamers all the time and worse than that is that instead of fucking lowering difficulty, they start cheating.

>>4759510
It's because of stuff like this I'm actually considering having the difficulties appear as "easy, normal, hard" or something. Nobody fully balances from ITYTD to UV anyway (well, it's really rare they do) as I think everybody does HMP or UV.

But you want to include it to just stop the autopilot in their head. You could just make it a bit harder but I wanted to make my hard, way harder.

>>4759503
Tell them to play on a lower difficulty setting.

>>4759515
Thanks captain obvious.

>>4759482
I woulda told you Kate, but they died :(

>making a large indoor area
>got it all plotted out
>realize the roof is totally barren

Anybody have any ideas on detailing a ceiling?
Besides giant skylights.

>>4759593
Lights and support beams?

>>4759606
I'll work something out, too many support beams blocks a players movement though.

>>4759482
Just say what you want to achieve here dude.

>>4758592
I kinda want these levels in an original Doom style.

>>4759609
I'll come back when I have an illustration/demo wad to explain it better. Though it's basically a rising tide of acid up some flights of stairs that damages monsters as well as players, though the acid is swimmable so you can come back later with a rad suit and swim back down.

Sounds easy in principle but what fucks me is thinking "ok swimmable sectors have to cover every other sector"
Plus the rad suit part, but I could toss that idea for the sake of simplicity.

>>4759612
that exists, its called something like "doom 64 for doom II respawned"
im surprised theres no doom 2 for doom 64 though

>>4759608
I meant more like beams running across the ceiling horizontally, or perhaps conduits for pipes, wires or circuits.

>>4759615
Oh yes, the stairs are one flight on top of the other, like a high rise building's. Not a continuous line like vanilla doom.

>>4759593
i like to put random computers/screens hanging down from the ceiling

>>4759615
Dude, that's just a rising swimmable 3d floor and https://zdoom.org/wiki/SectorDamage calls. It's piss easy and doesn't require a particularly experienced coder. Have you tried make super basic door opening scripts in ACS yet?

why is the revenant so damn slow in ps1 doom?

Also
>Sounds easy in principle but what fucks me is thinking "ok swimmable sectors have to cover every other sector"
In UDMF you can do multiple sector tags if your staircase is made of 3d floors

>>4759662
>>4759670
I see, I'll try a mockup and if I stuff it up show it off here.
Though how can you raise the acid so it'll only go up the stairs one by one? I can imagine a single sector rising, but something filling up a stairway seems a bit more difficult.

>>4759675
Imagine that the acid volume is an infinitely wide but finitely tall large cube that is only drawn in the sectors you've told the control sector to use. Now you have an ACS script raise the ceiling of the control sector and hence the acid volume. You can do it in large steps with a second or two between each, or in smooth increments 35 times a second. The choice is up to you.

>>4759683
Finger painting to you, brain surgery to me.
Thanks for the leg up, I'll toy with things a while longer before coming back. That's a good idea.

>>4759698
https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_quick_beginner%27s_guide_to_ACS

>>4759664
limitations i assume
same reason why the archvile was cut

>>4759615
>.gif
>but that's just a screensh-

>"top X facts you never knew about Doom"
No matter what channel is this video from, it doesn't know Doom 64 and Final exist.

>>4759592
what did kate actually do, anyway?

>>4759612
You're in luck. This is some quality stuff.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92901-doom-64-for-doom-ii-respawned-final-test-build-v8-is-here/

>>4759742
Srly?

Does anyone know a mod that focus on long range combat with big maps?
Or in general just big open maps

>>4759859
I got one for you.
"UAC Vinur Prime Research Base "

It's really vast and open, last area is a humongous open area fight.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49163

Is there a way to take specific weapons away from the player once they leave a map? Like if I want the player to have the BFG in one map and then have them lose it in the next.

>>4759862
Thaks senpai

>>4759859
>>4759862
>>4759868
...okay then.

Don't forget this one too btw: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=53887

>>4759892
You're the author?

>>4759912
Yeah, i always leave a tab open in the Doom threads nowdays because nice subjects pops up sometimes as well goldmine of memes like Sarais mental breakdown.

>>4759867
an UNLOADING acs script that takes the bfg item. Probably won't work with gameplay mods that replace the bfg though

>>4759917
Keep your drama on /v/

playing with balls again. now bounces correctly on actors and don't fall through level geometry, and also their speed can be linearly interpolated upon spawning so you can shoot hundreds of them every tick in a constant uninterrupted stream. This also applies on bouncing, so the stream doesn't broken into clumps when it hits a wall.

>>4759937
>playing with balls again.
that's gay

>>4759917
Oh, well pleased to meetcha.
I almost never login/post in the Zdoom forums but I recommend maps to people here if something comes to mind.

Was going to message you there but I forgot, liked your level anyway. The massive open airness was weird at first but kind of grew on me. Would probably be great fun for modders that have you use big robots or something to make the most of the space.

>>4759937
If it was a bit slower/thicker I'd be reminded of a kind of "lava rifle". But you'd murder the GPU if you made each one dynamically lit.

>>4759946
Yeah thanks for the promotion, actually i am in need of feedback for Main UAC Hangar since that one is what currently i am working on, but fuck Warnock's Dilemma hits me hard for these solo maps i make.

I'm thinking in make a UACVPRB Redux to fix the balance with monsters and map flow, cut off rooms that is not necessary and only exists to make the player loose track of where to go.

>>4759150
What would REALLY be interesting is if Monster Teleports were also shifted based on difficulty. Since monsters occur depending on difficulty as well you can have monster teleport chambers that are empty on some difficulties, only have a few pinkies, or on UV+ end up having a horde of skeletons.

That way if the player was on any other difficulty than UV or Nightmare they would be surprised by critters not coming in.

Weapon and Key placement could also be affected so that, ex, the SSG sitting on a pedestal that had no consequence becomes a BFG on UV that fills the room with hell knights when you grab it.

>>4759939
fits me then ayy

>>4759946
Yeah, that many GLlights would be a bit much.

>>4759407
> you hear the ever so slight sound of "grind" indicating something only moved a little bit

>>4759937
Hawt damn, soon we'll have water physics in the doom engine!

To developers that put options in their mods:

Thanks. Really appreciate you guys.

>>4758506
also add make your own test map

>>4759976
>not posting the superior version

>>4759867
>>4759928
From a map edit side thats the only way I can see it being done, and you can also make a guess as to what kinds of mods people might play it with and also take those named item tiers as well (might throw a bunch of errors? but unless it crashes it gets the job done I guess).

From a modding side of the equation the best way IMO to handle items like that is give them their own ammo type and the weapon itself is the only source of ammo for it. Which makes a gun like the BFG overpowered if in a scenario its found where you only have 80 cells available. But it nerfs the weapon significantly in most other scenarios because it has no forward mobility for ammo capacity. This is also useful if you want to replace the Plasma Gun and Cells with a different kind of ammo system (like .308 machinegun) and still have a BFG.
> I also want to for kicks create a separate fake weapon that gets switched to when you run out of BFG Ammo, which then takes your BFG and drops a broken and toasted BFG sprite with sparks coming out of it indicating that the gun has fried itself and you dropped it.

Doom 3 had a decent idea with this by giving you a BFG with 4 shots. I think about Five is good considering what it can do on a point blank shot to a boss, and it keeps BFG pickups from being a frivilous encounter of only collecting some cells.
> Ive also done a thing before where the BFG replaces the Plasma Gun and the altfire is the regular bfg attack, while the main attack is a 5 shot pulse of plasma blasts in an X shape. And plasma gun pickups would only give you ammo if you had a Bfg. So having the BFG is a tradeoff of being more efficient than the plasma gun but a little less flexible.
> In this mod the Chaingun also takes away the Pistol, and the SSG takes away the Shotgun. Though single shots are possible with the chaingun and the SSG has some long range capability.

Anyone have any experience with making a 64Doom rom? Not Doom 64, but the port of the original Doom and Doom 2 to the N64? I can't seem to get the rom builder to work and I want to play Doom on an N64 after I beat Doom 64.

>>4759951
Hmmm well I'm making a map but haven't released any yet so I'm not the one to ask.

Good luck with it though.

>>4759976
Options are fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID1_vklK08Q
If anyone here cares about QC:DE, the new character will be Sarge

>>4760024
the
> (((wog beam)))
lol i dunno what that is but it sounds funny as hell

Has anyone extracted the skyboxes from Ancient Aliens yet? I wanted to get a good look of them outside of the game since they're gorgeous.

>>4760040
Dude, you get slade and look at em

>>4760040

>>4759968
believe me, i have considered trying.

>>4759335
I wish they could have at least released assets such as sprites and sounds.

If DOOM Hell invaded the Earth how fucked would the world be and could it be repelled. Let's not forget the who sheer mindfuck aspect of "Hell" unleashing pure imaginable cruelty and horror in the real world. They once had the Earth but they lost it and now they are coming back.

Let say a Hellmouth/Portal opened up in major city in the US. Everyone within 25 miles would be instantly killed and/or possessed into zombies. How fucked would we be facing,

Demons- Not much to say here, from your imp to the largest Baron. Obviously extremely dangerous and love nothing more then to slaughter people and unleashing carnage in the real world vs in Hell where killing other deamons just means they come back anyway.

Zombies- Possessed humans, some would just be your typical vannila zombie, others would be fully possessed former military or police that are armed and act as a single unit. Possession can happen by visiting hell, being in the immediate vicinity of a hell portal opening up or falling asleep in Hell controlled/possessed areas.

>>4759806
This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OV3SQ_6DhE

>>4760086
All of us would die except Mark, who would bravely defeat all the demons single handedly. Then repopulate the earth with his clones.

>>4760067
Damn, that could be my new wallpaper

>>4759976

Options are probably the most fun I have in messing around with making mods. Being able to tweak things so that they become batshit or provide a different experience entirely is so satisfying with a mod.
Being able to summon chickens in Samsara and the various ways that could be applied is probably the most fun I've had in modding.

>>4760086
Depends if just demons, it would be gory as fuck but I think we could win. It would probably require multiple nukings of the portal site and just a full out scorched earth doctrine of fighting hellspawn.

But, if friendlies could go turncoat/become possessed we are 110% fucked in everyday, literal Armageddon. It would be a complete breakdown of the chain of command and fighting hell aligned human forces would be worse then any cyberdeamon of malediction on the battlefield.
Having daemons ontop of the zombie apocalypse and 1/2 the world turning would just be an added fuck you.
I would also imagine most people would go insane.

>>4760086
>Implying we don't have a BFG or two lying around IRL
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

So is there anything inherently "wrong" with linear maps?
For a concept I'm working on, it's a level that is entirely linear and plays very much like a gauntlet. Encounters/fights can have variety in how they go but it is always abundantly clear where the player has to go because I want them doing things quickly and the fastest way to piss a player off like that is having them unsure where to go next.

I know how to make a non linear layout, but I don't want the player doing scavenger hunts when the whole building is exploding around them as it removes tension.
/linearleveldefender

>>4760130
fucking hell
it looks like something you'd target a ship with

>>4760134
Not really. It all boils down to taste.

>>4758506
>Not Ghoul's Forest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID1_vklK08Q

>>4760187
I already posts this >>4760036

>>4760086
>>4760119
They'd send in Pinkies first because weapon of choice for most militaries is assault rifles and in a non-bottleneck situation soldiers will be overrun by them and chewed up. Likewise Cacos will provide air support and reach areas constrained by barricades or obstacles. Imps and HKs would come in to break up any stragglers and attack close quarters in urban combat situations (hallways, buildings, apartments that dont get burned down for one reason or another).

Mancubes and Imps would be anti-vehicle and incendiary patrol. One reason those fireballs do so much damage is because its assumed they're sticky incendiary substances. Nothing destroys a tank, technical, or APC like being set on fire. Imps do the same job as Mancubes just at a slower rate.
> doomguy reflexively knows to smack off the flaming substances, so he doesnt go down in flames but it still hurts him alot, anyone else just gets burned alive, their house gets set on fire, or their car is toast.
> this is also part of why being close to a fireball impact does him no damage, but anyone else would get hurt by it
> other reason is because he's wearing the best security armor the UAC could afford, which is part of why he's got 100 hit points compared to even a chaingunner's 70 when it comes to being shot with bullets. The additional armor he finds becomes a 2nd layer overjacket.

None of these monsters would give a rats ass about human air support, it might cause them to lose some numbers but they would arrange a teleport to occur out at the air bases. Mancubes and Pinkies would make the air force go up in flames.
> The Nukes would likely be teleported out, the demons dont need them and it would kill more humans than the monsters anyway, the demons want to relish those deaths.

Its kinda like the 7 hours' war from Half Life, the enemy just starts showing up everywhere and hits you where you're softest.
> Even a star culture might be fucked over, let alone modern or near future earth.

>>4760195
The demons can only teleport in areas they control (like areas literally being hell terraformed with the fleshwalls and shit) or by being summoned with a sacrifice (likely a poor captured human or by use of an hell artifact).
It's really hard for the demons to exist in a corporeal form in the real world under normal circumstances. They have to maintain a link to Hell with sacrifices, being near the portal or some other means other wise they are easy to kill/banish back to Hell.
It was actually mentioned somewhere in the doom lore one of the reasons, they zombfied/possessed people is because human hosts were not bound by the same limitations and why Hell collaborated with literal satanists to get shit done. Also the same with the cybernetic demons since apart of them existed/came from the real world

Speaking of collaborators that would be another force to deal with, you can bet every satanist and insane nut job would come out of the wood work and ally with Hell, perhaps with the promise becoming a powerful demon.

>>4760195
>Nothing destroys a tank, technical, or APC like being set on fire
Modern armored vehicles have good protection against fire, anything besides directly hitting engine compartment will not deal any singnificant damage.

>>4760105

>his clones

>not his superior hue seeds

>>4760221
>Olivia sacrifices herself to become the Spider Mastermind
>Betruger gets his head turned into a tongue for his new dragon/gargoyle thing form
Man, Doom 3's designs were so ridiculous, your boss becomes a literal tank

>>4760245
It's a neat concept. You have the Cyberdemon and Spiderdemon, hellish creatures infused with human technology, and then you have Sabaoth and Olivia, humans infused with human technology and then possessed by hellish creatures.

>>4759968
not until we get special effect actor class that omits most of the game's complex actor behaviour calculations.

Can any anons give me some suggestions on WADs to run Doom RPG/RLA in? Also, is there a better way to run WADs with RPG/RLA than ZDL? I did a bit of a BTSX run, but the UI was a mess and it bugged out about halfway through and stopped displaying my credits and other things.

Any good mods that make co op a bit better? Whenever I play with friends they always die and then have to watch me play through the whole level which seems really boring. I was thinking either something where when a player dies they become a ghost and can be resurrected after his allies kill enough demons or just make it so players can be ressed by taking half of another players health. I might take a crack at making one if none exist.

>>4760323
La Tailor Girl is getting a support character soon.

>>4760323
Stronghold is great for coop and has lives.

>>4760086
>>4760119
Keep in mind Doom Hell is also able to infect and subvert technology to its use.

WHY THE FUCK DOES GZDOOM HAVE SPORADIC FRAMERATE DROPS

>>4760323
I remember someone tried to do something like that, implementing Nuclear Throne mechanics in Zandronum. But I haven't heard of that project in years.
Good luck, if you decide to make anything.

>>4760321
Some people think DRLA+RPG pairs well with DTS:T despite the bug on the zoo map.
Other than this, it comes down to prefrence regardless considering you can have one continual run through multiple megawads.

>>4760329
Awesome, I love La Tailor Girl. I'll have to try it in co op soon.
>>4760331
Sounds fun I'll check it out.

Speaking of co op I really wish Doomrla + rpg co op worked better. When I did do co op with it, it was some of the most fun I've ever had in Doom, but saving progress and characters didn't work too well.

>>4760409
> lags your game just for a second
> just for one teeny tiny second

Whats the best way of playing Dark Forces in todays day and age?
I rememer therre being several attempts to reverse engineer, port or remake this game. Have any of them been successful?

Were its levels ever ported to Doom in their entirety?

>>4759664
probably to make it easier for people playing with a controller

>>4760134
I'm okay with linear maps, but I'd easily suspect that a lot of Doom players aren't too fan of 'em because they're looking for something a little bit more exploration oriented with keys and switches and the lot.
if you're upfront about it, that'd probably help keep a few people from bitching

>>4760469
Some time it can freeze for about 10 seconds

>>4760409
Oh thank god, I thought it was just me.

Guys I'm having an issue with GZDOOM too.
Basically everytime I autosave and die like 3 or 4 times it crashes.
What should I do?

>>4758496
>[04-30] PROJECT ILE version 0.23 released
Did nobody else download this and notice the file was broken?

>>4760036
>still not adding hunter to show up bethesda

>>4760575
I figured it was just me

Why do they drop eggs?

Am I the only one who thinks that Brutal Wolfenstein is better than Brutal Doom?

>>4760605
yes
though PB is better still

>>4760390
Hell was given human tech from collaborators and scavenged what was left over from the survey teams that went to hell during the teleportation experiments.

>>4760615
I think it's better than BD because it has a clear idea of what it wants to do.Of course the bosses are a pain but better than a Cybderdemon who dies with 3 SSG shots.

>>4760036
>No active ability, gains armour from cooldown hourglasses
Neat!

FUCK ALIEN VENDETTA
FUCK IT
FUCK THE GUY WHO MADE IT
FUCK MANCUBUS
FUCK ALL THE 100 HELLKNIGHTS IN A SINGLE CORRIDOR
FUCK IT

>>4760604
the same reason disciples drop tomes, weredragons drop arrows, and maulotaurs drop urns

>>4760639
Having played on the seemingly permanent complex alien vendetta servers on zandronum about 10 quadrillion times I can safely say I have map14 and 15 eternally branded into my brain.

>>4760642
>disciples drop tomes
Makes sense.
>weredragons drop arrows
Makes sense.
>maulotaurs drop urns
Makes a bit of sense.
>Iron Liches drop Eggs
????

>>4760616
> mfw that satanist asshole director sent survey and security teams there just to give them a technology drop so they could figure out how to use it against the UAC

>>4760639
That mountain hike on map 20 was the worst goddamn thing

>>4760651
How does weredragons dropping arrows make sense? The knights could at least be bullshitted by saying that the ethereal axes and ethereal bows are connected, but the dragon is a big brown beast that shoots fire.

>>4760657
I've seen some comments from people saying they liked it :\

>>4760662
i can't believe someone likes something i don't like

>>4760651
Those eggs are their concentrated magical force.

>>4760651
so you're telling me you weren't born from a levitating egg and spent your entire childhood as a disembodied head, with each separate limb developing throughout the process of adulthood?

>>4760731
No dude the eggs are incubating baby liches.

>>4760731
>>4760741
>>4760746

>>4760791
Your meme looks a little undercooked.

>>4760575

I downloaded it but saying I have no time to even unzip it is underestimate my situation..

>>4760841
It takes like, 0.001 seconds to make sure a file works after you download it, my dude.

>>4760660
It's in a name.
Were-Dragon
They were most-likely an archer.

>>4760864
Man how the fuck does Were-Dragon -> Archer

>>4760873
Not that guy but were usually implies half man. So maybe the guy was an archer before he turned into a were-dragon.
I'm just trying to jump on this guy's train of logic

>>4760873
How the fuck does Were-Wolf -> Anything?

>>4760880
Were is derived from Wer, meaning Man. Literally Man-Wolf. Nothing about Were-Dragon could indicate an archer.

>>4760881
Yes it could. You literally just explained how.

>>4760892
>Man = Archer
Ok then bud

>>4760902
You dense motherfucker.

No Doom stream today for Joel it seems, maybe in friday he'll play.

>>4760950
doubt it, on friday he does "FMV Fridays".

damn they must have a horse in there

>>4759229
Gotta tell you, this map is pretty bad. I don't get eyestrain easily so the visuals don't bother me, but it's an overly long maze with really shit pacing that quickly devolves into quicksave instakill gameplay around the middle and continues all the way to the end. I just can't see anyone investing the time required to actually finish this map with the total lack of compelling gameplay that it currently has.
You could really benefit from reading the stuff this guy >>4758578 posted so that you have an idea of how to set up an encounter. That and to cut down the map size a bit, not everything has to be a magnum opus or something. If this map was themed exactly the same, even with weak encounter design, but only took ~5 minutes on a first run it would actually be better.

>>4760950
it wouldn't be the first time he started (relatively) late. a few weeks ago he started in about 2 hours time

>>4760239
So they can run through fresh hot lava from an active volcano? Because that's how hot mancubii fire burns.

>>4760565
Take cover, chaingun snipe things far away, hug corners and run away when you open a door.

>>4760981
Heat damage is typically caused not by high temperature but duration of exposure to high temperature, at least in scenarios that involve sane temperatures that can reasonably occur on earth. Mancubi shoot fireballs made of flaming gas. While the impact of that fireball could fry the skin of a living thing by flash-boiling water in its body, since it dissipates quickly it's unlikely that anything but repeat fire would harm the armor on a tank. Not to mention that lava is typically only 700-1200C, while a typical campfire can reach 1100 if stoked properly. You can quickly swoop your own hand through a campfire, so just imagine how much less effective something at that temperature would be against ceramics designed to resist heat.

>>4760981
>>4760990
Also relevant https://www.quora.com/Can-thermate-really-melt-tank-armors
Mancubi would pretty much have to be shooting at temperatures higher than thermite to be effective against modern vehicle armor. It's more likely that arachnotrons, shooting plasma (~30000C give or take composition) would be effective than mancubi.

>>4760791
>>4760808
I love it when random conversations generate OC. Good stuff.

>>4760998
magic hell technology, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>4761008
Mancubi would be more useful for infantry cleanup and general urban warfare bullshit, i.e. soft targets. Arachnotrons would be the ones shooting the APCs and tanks.

>>4760239
>>4760981
>>4760990
>>4760998
Issue isnt actually damaging the tank armor but heating it up. Its pretty clear the reason why Mancube fireballs (or imp fireballs) do as much damage as they cause to the player is because its a flammable substance that sticks. Like napalm, greek fire, or white phosphorous, otherwise a bullet is going to do more, if its just some flaming gaseous stuff.

Its just rather than make you take 3-5 points of damage a bunch of times over a short period to simulate the burning, the damage is consolidated into one lump. Sorta like in Fallout 1 and 2 the Flamer does 45-90 damage, which is evident that its consolidated continuous damage because of the dancing burning man death animation.

Granted the effective "HP" of a Tank or vehicle is going to be pretty high, but this only concerns how many fireballs its going to have to take before the thing is completely immersed in flames and cooking the inhabitants alive.
> cooking the inhabitants alive, because even if the armor can take it, it transfers heat to the interior of the vehicle

Its not an immediate kill but its a scary way to die, if your tank is hit by flamethrowers or has an incendiary bomb dropped on it. Because you cant get out, the door hatch is going to be too hot to even touch and even then there's nowhere to go.

> give a tank the equivalent of about 2000 hp and make it take half damage from fireballs, but those fireballs really stack up if its drawing the heat as a priority target.

>>4760971
It's not that, he announced on Twitter there won't be any streams until friday.

>>4761023
>Its pretty clear the reason why Mancube fireballs (or imp fireballs) do as much damage as they cause to the player is because its a flammable substance that sticks
Nope, it's from flash-boiling. Nothing in the game would suggest that they are anything but gaseous fireballs.

>>4761024
>>4760971
He said in the previous stream yesterday that he has to leave town to meet with his family and will be staying there until Friday and thus won't be able to stream until then, he'll post on twitter from time to time.

SHADOWMAPPING

Whats the hardest 'oficial' map to pistol start on UV?

>>4760808
And yours is fucking burnt.

>>4761024
>>4761031
well shit

>>4761104
but yours is raw. FOOKIN RAW.

>>4760970
As stated; your experience will variate heavily based upon how you approach things and what route you take. Don't automatically assume I haven't read those.

>>4761121
So if the intention is to have variable routes with different styles of play, why would you include routes that are unfun?

>>4759229
>load in doom 2
>standard map01
>listmaps
>nothing is different
>load in doom 1
>standard e1m1
>listmaps
>nothing is different
>opening in slade gives me an error

How the fuck am I supposed to play this?

>>4761147
It's unopenable if the filetype's changed to .zip, too.

>>4761131
Because ultimately the map is extremely nonlinear and it is possible to go ways that deplete one of all supplies; I cannot get all of them

>>4761150
Then that's a problem with your map design. Don't try to make something huge and ebin :DDD, especially if it's easy for the player to gimp themselves. Open design and non-linearity are only fun if a player can choose their own route and still be able to take things on their own terms.
If you've already read those articles, then reread them. They're not just blowing hot air.

>>4761147
I don't have that issue? What are you trying to do?

>>4761154
>Open design and non-linearity are only fun if a player can choose their own route and still be able to take things on their own terms.
>Gives me shit for doing exactly that

>>4761169
>and still be able to take things on their own terms
you are not doing that
you literally just said it's possible for players to go ways that deplete all their supplies

>>4761168

Download and play your map.

>>4761093
perfect hatred

>>4761174
And this is possible in virtually any map. I'm sorry if you found a magic route I hadn't considered.

>>4761176
You first.

>>4761195
>You first.
What
Different anon but I literally can't run or open your .pk3 file in the link

Berserk packs are a helluva drug.

>>4761195
>You first.

That's what I'm trying to do, you idiot.

>>4761195
>I'm sorry if you found a magic route I hadn't considered.
so then fix it
this is not that hard

A or B?

"No one will defeat me in arguments if there are no arguments"

>>4761213
thanks for the update, champ

>>4761212
No idea what this is for, but I'm actually having trouble deciding. B looks a bit more silly with the big gaping maw, but also a bit terrifying because of the sharp teeth. The angler-esqe light is also really good and could look great if properly integrated into the brightmaps. (Imagine seeing just it's face illuminated as it sprints towards you in the darkness!) A looks a little more generic. Writing this out, I honestly prefer B. Great spritework, anyways!

>>4761213
what server is that?

>>4761213
>discord is gay
wow! what a shocker!

>>4761213
What discord is this on and why should we care?

>>4761218
Official ZDoom discord, the birthplace of Doom cuckoldry and snowflakes

>>4761212
B looks pretty comical with his wide-open mouth, although the light is a neat touch. Perhaps left guy could have a light? Or right guy could have left guy's mouth?

>>4761183
Done!

>>4761213

>>4761223
>>4761212
>>4761216

https://streamable.com/bf6bi
thanks term

it's a girl

>>4761250
>https://streamable.com/bf6bi
Oh, so this is Rool 2

>>4761251
it's a man, baby

>>4761250
link, now

after the love has gone. What used to be right is wrong.

>>4761212
Some more

>>4761253
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60523
you're making a mistake.

>>4761212
Some more

>>4761260
looks excellent

>>4761212 >>4761260 Here
Some old stuff that never went anywhere

>>4761219
>>4761221
>>4761240
18+ website

>>4761270
Fuck off, janitor wannabe.

>>4761269

Those look amazing.

>>4761269
>Baron-Xeno Hybrid
>Went Nowhere
Slap yourself. An entire TC mod could be based around the concept of Daemon-Xenos.

>>4761274
no, s'arais, it couldn't

>>4761274
>>4761269
Also the weird tentacle dude on the right too is neat.
Reminds me of independence day's aliens

>>4761023
Fair enough.

>>4761274
>Vilemorph
>even faster+jump+melee
>summons an acid geyser under your feet
>can resurrect xeno corpses or can create facehuggers from non-xeno corpses..

>>4761301
This guy gets it.
>Vilemorph wanders towards corpses
>Suddenly huggers
>Huggers go to Other archviles
>Archviles rapidly take damage after some minuites and die, spawning more vilemorphs; which repeat the cycle.
Pain which mortals were not prepared to comprehend.

>>4761309
Make it and send it to Joel's Doom mapping contest.

>>4761313
That's already over
plus this would require a long time to make a TC which isn't what the MAPPING contest is about

>>4761301
>>4761309

>>4761315
I'm not saying make a TC, just make a Vilemorph a surprise boss.

>>4759612
>>4759625
>>4759839
On this subject, has someone ported the N64 version but made it in such a way that I can play it with a gameplay mod?

>>4759839
>Maps must be vanilla compatible! Do not use Boom
Doesn't Doom 64 use some features similar to Boom ones at places?

>>4759952
That's easy to do, you could even shift the placement of monster teleport destinations depending on difficulty.

>>4761318
I guess that's kind of a fair way to set up a teaser of sorts
>plot of this map is that the UAC has been running it's teleporter experiments again, no surprise there, but unwittingly the usual hell-hole rips open a rift to whatever universe the Weyland-Yutani corporation is in. The two corporations have some clashing viewpoints and morals, but nevertheless seem to enter into a skirmish with eachother (not out of hatred, granted) where the UAC marines and USMC fight one another. Also there's demons. It's heavily hinted in the backround that somebody laid the basic threads for the event to occur, specifically for Xeno-Demon hybridization. The perpetrator is a doomsday-cult using the hybrids as a basis to combine with humanity's genetic malleability to create "Ascendants"

I want to get into mapping but it's pretty intimidating with the amount of talent and amazing maps in the community. Can any mappers around here give me some advice on getting started?

>>4761368
Don't get discouraged, make sure to have fun with what you make.
One thing I've learned that works wonder for map flow is while you're testing your own map, when you die, go back to the editor and put a Doomguy corpse there, and leave some supplies, like a stimpack, some ammo, etc.

>>4761368
While there's a lot of guides out there; you need to remember that it's YOUR map; so if you don't ever get your own style down and out, you might lack.

>>4761373
but in the same vein, note that "style" is not a good defense for bad mapping practices

be open to criticism and feedback, and note that while you should always mod and map for yourself, ideally other people should also be able to enjoy playing it

>>4759229
>>4761147

Tried redownloading this map three times from the link, still nothing each time.
Whatever you did, the link's busted, mate.

>>4760478
it has a sourceport but i never tried it

>>4761372
>>4761373
>>4761376

Thanks for the advice guys

>>4760604
>>4760731
>>4760746
Phylactery

>>4761401
actually this works.
why didn't we think of this?

>>4761259
I SPENT THE LAST FUCKING HOUR TRYING TO BEAT TNT MAP01

FUCK YOU TERM AND FUCK YOU IJON

>>4761315
>That's already over
No it ain't, the fuck you talking about?

>>4761443
Yes it is.
https://contest.vargskelethor.me/

>>4760604
>>4761401
>>4761408
You're pretty close, but it's more complex than that.

Concept of a lich is descended from evil undead wizard Koschei from Slavic mythology.
As you probably know, liches have phylacteries - special objects that house their souls, and until it is broken, they can't die. The thing is, this idea is based on original Koschei legend, who attained immortality by hiding his soul, within, wait for it... an egg.

So the mythical prototype for lich phylactery was an egg. So that's probably the reason why Iron Liches drop eggs.

>>4761471
I'll take this official

This is one of the better standard shotguns I've made, I'm really pleased with this.
>>>/wsg/2215139

i've seen people point out how the praetor suit and new cyberdemon sort of resemble each other because of the red/blue dots on their chests, but does anyone noticed how doomguy's exposed abs in his armor may parallel with classic cyberdemon's exposed tummy guts?

>>4761447
Oh, huh. Literally just changed after I looked.
So where the fuck is the final stream?

>>4761481
Looks cool
Kinda hoped it would actually freeze foes, though

>>4761492
The ice beam freezes enemies when you kill them though, everything else will be more ballistic/energy based and heat the gun up.

>>4761212
>>4761260

Both are excellent.
I like B more as it seems more unique, the angler fish head would be great varying on how you ingrate it, it's a great "dark area monster" that isn't just another spectre.
I could actually see a use for both in a WAD, the angler variant coming more common as you go deeper into a level, providing variety but keeping the same monster niche.

>>4761269
I can see why you let go of the fly variant on the left. I'd try using a lightish off-green colour for the white parts.

Apparently Smooth Doom breaks some maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100662-smooth-doom-breaks-maps/
Any idea on what could cause this?

>>4761515
Weird.
That's a pretty simple script, too.

>>4761515
I replied the dude there, actually i find it weird that Gifty never fixed such simple thing.

Is there a way to make the blood on katchup mod more colorful and less realistic and dark? it would fit well with the mods I'm playing

>>4761493
Just watched the video
Turns out they do actually get frozer
Thought it was the previous one oops

>>4761491
Final stream? I think he has like 100 .wads left, this is gonna take a while.

>>4758496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4F9tQWKOU

>>4761481
That switching sound to the shotgun is loud and harsh on the ears!

>>4761481
i'm bothered by the ice statues absorbing all pellets instead of going through like they do with normal enemies

>>4761481
now you gotta make the player rarely use the deus ex death scream instead of the regular one

>>4761528
Thank you. So to fix this I should replace A_SpawnItemEx("SmoothDemon", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, SD_VARIANTSPAWNFLAGS) with A_SpawnItemEx("SmoothDemon", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, SD_VARIANTSPAWNFLAGS, 0, tid), right?
Seems to work now with this fix. He really should update it.

>>4761574
I can tone that down pretty easy.

>>4761576
I was noticing that too. Shouldn't the other pellets go through a monster that dies?

>>4761579
Don't tempt me.

>>4761471
Well now I learned something interesting about liches today. Didn't think I'd get a serious answer to my question.

>>4761607
Worth noting that the egg is an ancient symbol of life

>>4761368
Map to have fun, fuck critics and only take their advice when you're seeking it I say.

>>4761212
If you really want a fish like monster, B is perfect.
As the other annon suggested, you might use it as a little light source on a dark area to make him more threathening.

>>4761212
B and I love it. Are you modeling or drawing from scratch?

>>4761493
What if hitting enemies with the ice beam would like, not freeze them, but slow them down?

>>4761706
That goes into weirdo fuckery territory and also might make the weapon a little too good, it's a pistol tier weapon and the fact it has regenerating ammo and killing monsters with it leaves no corpses makes it somewhat okay.

>>4761212
Both!
A (with the angler light tentacle thing) when far away and B when it gets closer

>>4761147
>>4761149
>>4761383
it's a rar. the file extension is misleading.

I've been making a Boom map cause all my ZDoom mods got too complicated. This room came out nicely.

>>4761828
I do retract my statement on "the best" though. My maps were only ever really concepts for those who had actual skill and talent; unlike talent-less, useless hacks such as myself.

>>4761828
.pk3s aren't supposed to be .rar files, please don't do that!

Funny thing I noticed:
Beautiful Doom has kick as an altfire for a fist.
And a kicked enemy actually flies back a bit.
And if an enemy gets kicked into another enemy, that enemy also gets hurt
And so this can actually make monsters infight!
Actually kinda fun to mess with pinkie hoards this way, just run in, kick a couple of times, and watch the chaos

So I've been streaming 300 Minutes of /vr/ again but when is the next mapping competition? I'm not super amazing at it but I'd love the chance to try my hand at it.

>>4761945
And this seem to only be possible with berserk

>>4761481
>>4761576
Huh... im actually TRYING to do this, so how exactly is it working this way?

>>4761974
I was actually thinking about starting another one at the end of this month once I'm done with all my finals. Still kinda unsure about the theme though. Throw some ideas my way and once I get enough I'll put them into a stawpoll and we can vote for what the theme/challenge will be.

Is there any way to add menu items without touching ACS coding at all?
id be okay with zscript even though I dont know anything about it

>>4762062
yes although the menus are probably the worst documented part of zscript

For some reason Zandronum doesn't take any controls. They are assigned and all but it just doesnt take them, Only the mouse for some reason.

>>4762049
I would dig a caverns+ancient temples theme. Something to make more use of outdoor and marble/wood textures.

>>4762049
The last time we tried people freaked out and refused to join because one person participated
like dude how is that even real just submit your map rofl.

>>4762095
Can anyone help me?

The Last Temptation of Doomguy.

>>4762049
Make sure there's a nice texture pack included whatever you choose in the end.

I think "magic" is a nice theme, to be freely interpreted. Like wizards towers, magitech machinery, runic temples and whatnot.

>>4762165
Im not huge on the texture pack thing but I really dig the second bit of your post.

>>4762095
Desktop discord is messing with its input for some reason. If you use Discord, close it and try running Zandronum again. Web Discord doesn't seem to have that problem.

>>4762049

I like the idea of adding some kind of time constraint regardless of the theme. But thats cuz I'm not a super l33t mapper and want a chance at getting in the wad.

Man, MadFox is a legit great mapper. HIs "abandon" ep so far is _everything_ I HOPED "Dark Realm of Blue Magic" to be and then in spades. His mapping is some fucking STYLE. It would fit just great after Petersen's episode, as an ep5 (well, if the ep wasn't pretty much as long as the entire Quake itself, if not longer). I am having a fucking BLAST.

Strangely, copious Z-fighting (at least, when playing from WinQuake) only enhances its weird ephemeral feel. As does v_idlescale 10.

>>4762194
>and then some, in spades

>>4762173
I really believe fresh textures can make a map feel a lot more exciting. There doesn't have to be a ton of them.

>>4762183
I'm not super picky about what gets into the compilations. As long as your map is playable and conforms to the rules, you should be good.

>>4762127
You know exactly why everyone didn't want you to participate, and refused to be in a mapset with you.

>>4762236
What happened?

>>4762240
Don't acknowledge.

>>4762236
>>4762240
Unless this is the same dude who got mad about the map in 300 Minutes titled IN YOUR ASS

>>4761490
MIND = BLOWN

>>4761490
BIG (guts) IF

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>>4762049

I'd like to have a most relaxed time constraint and another texture wad like cc4-tex or something like that

>>4762276

what was the problem with that map name?, beyond that it was built with letters

>>4762337
Absolutely nothing I love the map but I figured the dude that >>4762236 was talking about was the dude who got turbo bent out of shape about it and seemed like a general dickhole. I am probably just underestimating the population size of these generals

>>4762337
Hey, what about the ShadowCaster texture pack? It's got a lot of magical shit and seems to mesh fairly well with Doom textures.

>>4762356

I'm open to anything while our balls don't touch

>>4761828
why in the fuck would you do that

>>4760841
>>4760847
>>4759229

I opened it with 7-Zip no problems

some wad where jesus is blowing up hell?

>>4762360
I'd planned on missionary anyway.

>>4762380
Doom.

>>4762049
A summer map compilation would be neat.

What's something we haven't done?
1024 format mini maps? Maybe we can put a twist on it and make it 2048, meaning maps don't have to be AS cramped, but the author is still challenged to make a level with only 2048x2048 units of player space.
Just an idea, though.

At any rate, I strongly recommend Boom format for maps, as it's versatile without being too advanced, while still being mostly vanilla in gameplay.

>>4762165
>>4762173
>>4762212
Maybe the Gothic texture pack? We can make levels that look a bit like GothicDM, but with monsters and without things to get stuck on.

I will strongly suggest that we use custom sky textures, and use replacement music, even if just using existing iwad tracks.

>>4762428
Something limited to size or linedefs or some such would be fun. There was a good idea some threads ago... Forget what it was. Remember it was pretty unique.

>>4762049
Dante's Inferno theme maybe? Have people pre-sign up for maps/circles of Hell

>>4762439
I'd be fine with as many linedefs and sectors as people want, just that the idea with 1024 is that the player has only 1024x4 area to move in, the rest of the level can be as big as you want.

If we raise it to 2048, you still have a map that's quick to make, but it's not as big of a challenge to fit in a small space, and the maps can be more vast and elaborate.

>>4762428

1024 and gzdoom to make use of 3d floors

Does anyone know what's the song used on MAP23 of ALT?

>>4762439
Was it the proposed 720 Minutes of /vr/?

>>4762478
720 linedefs of /vr/ would be more fun tbqh

How come nobody plays Real Guns Advanced anymore?

>what did that switch do
That's what I ask myself during nearly every level on DOOM64. Fuck this game.

>>4762482
Same reason nobody plays anything else anymore, dummy
>muh Complex+LCA+a trillion other addons that make the game worse
>muh mm8bdm

What do you think of Accessories to Murder?
Is it worth playing?

>>4762095
>>4762178 (me)
Looked at it again. Seems like Discord's Overlay is what's messing with Zandronum. So it needs to be disabled for it.

>Playing with PSX Consolation Prize
>Decide to put Demonsteele MIDI pack
>MIDI version of Poison - I won't forget you. starts playing
>Feels like Doomguy is thinking about Daisy.

>>4762519
Welp, at least there's still Master of Puppets and the occasional DoomCenter and All Out War servers (as unbalanced as the latter is, I would still rather play it than complexshit or MM8BDM).

I've been playing Zandronum on a near-regular basis for nearly a decade (started in 2009 with Skulltag) and I only started feeling burned out on it last year. If it weren't for it, I most likely wouldn't be as into Doom as I am.

>>4762519
Why do people keep saying this? Everytime I go into Doomseeker there's always tons of servers with different mods on.

>>4762509
Toddlers beat that game 20 years ago, what's wrong with you?

>>4762519
The most populated server right now is neither of those, good job.

>>4762563
Are you sure about that?

Rewatching those The New Colossus commercials I was thinking....What parent would buy to their children an action figure of the man who most likely killed one of their loved ones?
This is so weird and yet it's so funny to me.

>>4762482
It lasted 7 years, that's a lot for just a weapon mod.

>>4762581
>>4762563
>>4762519

Just checked, as of this time of writing the top 10 servers are:
>8BDM TLMS
>GvH Multiverse
>Master of Puppets
>8BDM Fishing (sounds interesting, not gonna lie)
>Brutal Doom
>Jumpmaze
>Complex Doom
>Death & Decay
>All Out War
>DemonSteele

This is a crazy amount of variety.
Yeah, 8BDM is still the top, but so what? If you only look at the top server and nothing else, no wonder you think Zandronum's dying.