/vr/ - Retro Games

>OpenTTD
Excellent choice.

Post closeups of your foodcourts!

>Open Sim City 2000
https://github.com/rage8885/OpenSC2K

>>4728003
http://www.tenermerx.com/sc3maped/ this should probably be added to the SimCity pastebin. It's the 3k map editor for making custom terrain.

>>4728057
Give it the cordrazine.

First downtown area of mixed med/dense residential and commercial.

>>4727894
There isn't a burger stall anywhere in that picture

>>4728279
Well fuck, I guess I'm blind.
Also I haven't played it yet, I'm just marveling at all the aesthetics in the screenshots.

Second downtown area across the river.. if only I had commercial demand.

>tfw free form boat rides are comfy as fuck
>tfw guests are too stupid to get back to the station platform

>>4728427
I always put 1 or 2 tracks on either side of the platform and they usually find their way back easier. If it's adjacent to the coast use a 90° piece.

>>4728558
>then all the boats clump together

>>4728575
git gud

>>4728427
Usually if you build the platform out on a lake, and use bridges to reach it, the guests will have a way around on both sides to get back. Though if there are rivers or anything that branch off, they'll be stupid and get stuck exploring.

>city has been declining for a few years
>spend last bit of money to build an airport, take out a loan, and city begins to come back
>game crashes
I was turning things around, you guys...

>>4728693
Why didn't you save?

>>4728697
I had only been playing for 20 minutes.

>>4728698
Well, you can always try again.

main street progress

Lets discuss some Amusement Park related Youtubes.

Lately, I have gotten into this guy. HIs production value is top notch, and his details are always on point, especially his gargantuan and well deserved hate bones for Michael Eisner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2L-bZiqckM

>>4729137
Picturesque.

Damn, I wanted to be ready with some fresh OpenTTD screenshots when this thread went up.

>>4729368
What is this game?

>>4729558
...

>>4729563
I'm not a smart man.

>>4729567
Clearly. You got it, right?

>>4729575
I googled it.

I have never heard of Transport Tycoon before, is it good?

>>4729579
Yes, if its mechanics appeal to you. I'd rather play a city builder.

>>4729579
It's fantastic, frankly. Assuming the genre appeals to you.

Has a full open source remake with improvements and stuff, I highly recommend it.

>>4729579
Give it a try! It's a bit intimidating for some people because you have to learn to understand signal logic to make anything more complicated than simple point-to-point links, but once you do, you can go wild.

Why doesn't this get old, bros?

>>4729780
I fucking dig all those suburbs down in the left corner, all deep in the woods.

>>4729812
Thanks bud.

>>4729160
Defunctland is some good documentary shit, does he have any videos on TOGO?

>>4729913
Sadly no, the only actual Roller Coasters he has done are
>Alton Towers Black Hole
>DrachenFire
>Son of Beast

>>4729137
this is nice

>>4730306
I should really get back to my city tomorrow, been a while since I touched it.

>>4730323
No time is better than now!

Foist highrise in the city.

>>4730501
>want to play Sim City too
>game crashes every time I haven't saved for 20 minutes
why tho

>>4728057
>An Open Source remake of SimCity 2000 written in JavaScript, using WebGL Canvas and Phaser 3.

>modern programmers

>>4729137
Looks good, but I think you should use dinghy slide lifts on the log flume if you're aiming for realism. The open spaces on the bobsled lifts look odd.

Here's my entry to the knots contest. Redline, a floorloess coaster.

>>4730728
Full ride view, with track colors changed for visibility.

Could someone post the contest image again?

>>4729137
What's going on with that Bobsled?

>>4730858
It's just fucking rad.

>>4730858
It's one of these.

>>4730728
>>4730740
Very sexy EIN ratio.

>>4730908
Thanks. I'm happy with how the stats turned out.

>>4730890
>>4730858
yep, its one of those master blaster thingies

>>4730890
>>4730972
Ah, neat. Can you post the whole thing?

>>4730643
you're right anon, it looks way better. Thanks!

>>4731030
stats are shit, but that's because slides have weird minimum drop height requirements

>>4730615
What OS are you, and are you running an old install?

I had lots of trouble running SC3000 on a Win7 PC, turned out the GOG install worked flawlessly.

Is it somehow possible to get a chainlift on a LIM coaster AND change its speed?

>>4728003
Some suggestions for the RCT pastebin
>Xbox RCT1 has the expansions
>RCTC's RCT1 parks aren't perfect due to certain things not being in RCT2
>this RCT Mart archive for the content pastebin: http://www.mediafire.com/file/d5905mb4g6s9yzl/RCTMART.7z
>as well as this http://www.interactivitiesink.com/rct2/index.html

>>4731262
turn on the "arbitrary ride type changes" and "use any vehicle" cheats, then build your layout out of any track type that isn't LIM coaster track.

Only uses pieces that the LIM coaster has (no large loops, barrel rolls etc) or they will be invisible (but functional) when this is done. If you know how to merge, you can just merge on the elements you want.

>>4731275
adding these now. Worth noting everybody I have talked to said xbox rct1 is a really shit game too because the controls are bad.

There's no point to adding buggy's page, most of his stuff has been outdated or is low quality anyway. I'll link to the workbenches section of NE instead, all the good stuff is in there anyway and gets auto imported. I'll link to SpaceK and X7123M3-256's custom rides though.

>>4731301
then switch the track type to LIM coaster (under the viewport is the ride type name with a dropdown box, select it from that list). You won't see the lift speed in the ride settings, but it will be the same as before.

While you're at it, you may as well make the train type the wide hyper twister cars for realism. https://rcdb.com/9140.htm#p=35082
S&S does this with their launched coasters like link related

>>4731275
https://pastebin.com/R32Q4Lu6
updated the RCT bin

>>4730501
Got any Sim City info for the pastebin, anon? good fansites, or just a run-down on the advantages of each game in the series and which one to play first? etc etc

Your city's looking very comfy btw, I love it

>>4731113
That's really coming together. Good job!

Has anyone recreated "Class Action Park"?

>Tfw you underestimate the speed a little bit but you love it too much to give it up

So I made this for a challenge a group I'm in was holding; how do you guys think I did?

>>4732435
Looks nice and kind of minimalist.

>>4730615
Try the GOG version like anon said, things are pretty stable. The occasional ctd when clicking on menu buttons, but I try to save pretty frequently.

>>4731439
Just this post from earlier for now >>4728060. Been debating making more TruFax guides for SC3K like my old SC4 ones.

>>4732435
That station flyby is a nice touch.

>>4732435
in terms of the layout, all the elements are on point for a GCI, its not very compact

>>4732435
It's great, the coaster is perfect.. You seem to have forgotten/not had time to put fences at some places, some more variations in the forest would have looked good and those flower beds are a little to big and need breaking up.

Goddamn that took forever.

>>4732916
I like the tree fuzz around the balls, but you need a little waterfall or something coming out of the tip.

>>4732916
Anon, I'm afraid you might have crabs.

>>4732923
>my cock wins gold

>>4732916
>>4732923
Are we posting cocks now?

I tried making a mobius racing coaster. how do I fix the block sections so I can have more than 2 trains and 'synchronize with adjacent stations' works properly?
If nothing else I have a backup of when it was 2 separate tracks so I'm not completely fucked if it doesn't work

>>4732916

Balls Street

Home

>>4733080
Please, I need rollercocksters

>>4733126
It might be that you need one more block section, but I recall having to dispatch a train unsynched and close the ride back down to get them properly synched before opening. That shifts all the trains by one block section. You may have to do it twice, actually, seeing two trains on the blue half.

>>4733126
>>4733196
No, just once. The lift hill train will replace the mid-track train and the dispatched train on the green half will pull up beside it.

>>4733196
>>4733201
well that part worked but unfortunately my track design is flawed because the train reaches the mid-track block on the green half about about 1.5-2 seconds before the blue half which offsets them at the top of the lift hill and fucks up the racing part

What are some questions people have about SimCity 3000? I'd like to make some guides/graphics/something to help people get into the game.

>>4733465
Yeah, how the fuck do the farms work?

I will answer OpenTTD questions if anyone is interested in that. Clinical autism is not required.

>>4733080
I had /b/ direct the making of a park a few years back and this was a part of it

>>4733535
If it were two years ago when I was obsessed with OTTD I'd probably have questions. As it stands, I don't remember anything.

>>4733520
http://www.sc3000.com/knowledge/showarticle.cfm?id=0117
This seems pretty helpful. I never bothered with farms but I might have to in my next city.

>>4733536
Maybe it's just perspective, but one of them looks bigger than the other.

>>4733576
Realism

City is growing... Planning for a continuation of the downtown area just above the industrial on the right, which will extend up to the left behind the hill with the temple on top.

>>4733535
Got any advice on signaling? I typically play with a friend using a British station tileset but this was my limit. I'm still not really sure what signals to use and when.

>>4733126
I've never been able to get this working, I just turn off block sectioned mode, test the ride until half of the trains have left the station, closed it until they make it to the second station, turned sync on and tested it again.

Your only other option is to split them into two separate rides

>>4733126
Have you tried it with fewer trains?

>>4733761
Childish kek.

>>4733520
Farms are difficult to get, hard to keep, but look great.
Basically you want a large square or rectangular area of light industrial, isolated from other zones. For best results, it has to be powered but not watered. If you want to keep them forever, make every square historical, and dezone any extra light industrial that the farm does not use. If you keep the pollution levels low, they'll stick around. The Farmers Market ordinance helps, and you can add water infrastructure after making it historical so you don't get that annoying "Left out of the Rain" ticker message that scrolls by when some zones aren't watered.

>>4733892
I forgot to add, you can't just zone huge areas light industrial, because small patches of conventional industries might pop up, and that'll add enough pollution that the farms will get the hell out of dodge.

Also, farms put unique vehicles on your roads. It's kinda neat.

>>4733126
The only real way I found to fix it was to have the exact same length of track leading to the first drop and have the chain lift long or slow enough that all other trains on the track have a chance to get over their block section.

In your coaster example this may be fixed by getting rid of the first helix element and starting with a straight chain lift. However sync coasters are quite difficult to cooperate with if you have more than one block section mid way through the track.

If you still can't get it to work all you can do is change it to continuous circuit mode and have the station long enough to accommodate the necessary number of trains.

Yo, I'm not the dude, but I'm posting this again so everyone can see it.

>>4733126
Holy helices

>>4733761
I really appreciate juvenile things like these, to be honest.

Like, not all the time, but sometimes, if you do it just right, it's perfect.

>>4733080

>>4733698
>growing city
>separate districts
>no public transit
seems like a recipe for gridlock and pollution. I always build rather dense railway networks, and eventually subways when money isn't an issue. Works really well, too.

>>4733778
Those signals must be part of whatever British track/stations set you are using, because I don't recognize them. It looks like you are using at least three different types of signals though.
In OTTD there are basic block signals, path signals, and the complicated pre-signals. Before path signals were introduced, pre-signals were necessary for most applications. Now, you don't really need to use them at all.

Treat path signals like stop signs, just put them wherever a train can safely stop, so that it is not blocking other tracks involved in the junction. Use one-way path signals as much as possible to avoid trains trying to go the wrong way, and use the unadorned path signals for tracks that are used in both directions (like leading into and out of a terminus station). I use normal block signals on the boring stretches of my lines between junctions to save CPU time, but you could use path signals for everything.

>>4734287
thank you

>>4734287

You really can get away with whatever asinine track layout you want with these Steel Twisters huh. All you gotta do is plop some trees down

>>4734323
It's not as bad as you might think. I don't get any ticker warnings about traffic or pollution.

>>4730740
>That loop into corkscrew into helix knot
The reason I never get far when replaying RCT is because I fail to pull off cool shit like that and when I do the EIN is fucked to shit. I wish I was awesome like you.

>>4734974
Just gotta keep trying shit until you find something that fits together. You can push the limits a bit with zeroed clearances.

>>4734974
One tip I will always share is to watch the speed your trains are going through corkscrews. Nothing will ruin a perfectly good layout faster than a corkscrew in the wrong place. I personally aim for the trains to enter them at 30-35 mph. If you're doing half loop into corkscrew, you'll want to have the train enter the loop below 50 mph. 45 mph is usually fine. I think it looks silly when a train struggles to get through a loop, so I aim for >40 mph when entering loop elements.

>>4734360
that one way PBS on the left in front of the depot would cause a jam, it isn't needed

>>4734895
>The English Nanny

>>4735110
The branch leading up to the station is just too short. Ideally there would be room for trains to wait outside the station without blocking the mainline. Having a train stopped on the mainline waiting for a path into the station is just as bad.

I recommend placing the signal there, even on a too-short branch like that, because it takes slightly less time for the tail-end of the train to clear the line when it has a head start.
Luckily the arrangement won't cause gridlock because the path out of the station is kept clear. That station probably only has two trains serving it, so in that case entering trains will never have to wait either, because there will always be a platform free.
For a busier station you'd want to use a higher-capacity design than that super basic one.

Does anyone else like Simutrans better than OpenTTD? The interface is dogshit, but it feels more like a proper game instead of a toy.

>>4735574
Can't say it looks fun. At all.

>>4735574
The graphics aren't particularly appealing, I'll have to say. Too simple shading, too bright colors.

>>4735619
>>4735619
There are a lot of Paksets available for download.

I interrupted my frustration with the racing coaster to make some crappy 10x10 compacts

>>4736178

>>4736178
>>4736180
I like me some compact coasters.

>>4736185
Woah, wooden roller coaster 3 looks too intense for me.
Was this for some jewpark where you're trying to cram the maximum amount of excitement into the smallest area possible?

>>4733956
was about to repost, thanks homie

>>4736301
Nah, I just like duelling coasters and wanted to see what the smallest area I could force one into was, while keeping it looking reasonably nice still.

QB mac's splash boats were definitely an inspiration.

you think these games will ever make a comeback? this shit was my childhood.

>>4736318
Probably not because every time they try we get shit like RCT4. I think there is no hope for a non 3D game, but shit Planet Coaster was a neat idea but I don't have a $10,000 Super Quantum PC. Theme Park Studio is nice as well

>>4736318
No need for a comeback. Parkitect is amazing and Planet Coaster is a worthy successor to RCT3 desu.

Planet Coaster is shit. The management side of the game isn't really that fleshed out, it's very light and casual.

>>4736317
And your wooden coasters were an inspiration for my wooden coasters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkLaYVyR398

https://shop.lego.com/en-US/Roller-Coaster-10261?CMP=SOC-RollerCoasterAnnouncement&p=10261
>I'm not paying that much to go on Lego Coaster!

I have literally no idea when I saved this but here you go.

>>4736180
there is literally, unironically nothing more reddit than 10x10 coasters

>>4736385
I should probably add it to the pastebin. I have Parkitect (backed it on kickstarter back before the steam release) but I've found it very underwhelming. I always get frustrated because I try to move the camera like a 3d game but there's no option for a 3d camera. The landscaping looks terrible and all the game controls feel floaty and delayed.

unlike rct1 and 2 it seems to high a higher perspective point so you are looking down much more then directly at stuff, so its much harder to see the details of what you're building.

That said it isn't horrible and is very promising, the devs seem really nice and are constantly updating it, so it could get better in the future.

>>4736326
>>4736398
Planet Coaster is first and foremost a sandbox game and it always will be. Making something pretty takes a really long time (I spent literally an hour on a single planter box a few nights ago) but the result is really stunning. It's much closer to a casualised NoLimits than RCT3. If you want good scenario play, RCT1/2 and Parkitect are your best bet. It also doesn't take a beast to run, I get a flawless 60 on my 3 year old machine that was built with parts that were outdated at the time and not even high end.

I've never tried Theme Park Studio, should it be added to the pastebin? I heard about it but it had such incredibly mediocre reviews on steam that I never bothered

>>4736704
Go away, /v/.

>>4736727
https://www.reddit.com/r/rct/search?q=10x10&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&t=all&sort=new

I'm actually not joking, it was a huge casual trend for years for easy free internet points

>>4736704
Shut the fuck up, namefag.

>>4736735
Given that we aren't from Reddit, we wouldn't know, it sounds like your own problem.

>>4736735
Ah, I see.

>>4736754
Rude.

>>4736754
Most anons that post their parks here then go and repost them on reddit. You realise how small and tight knit the rct community is right? There's literally 3 active communities left for rct2. NE, Reddit, and here.

>>4736569
A shame there's no interesting track elements, like every Knex rollercoaster ever.

>>4736569
Looked kind of meh until I saw the switch track. That's pretty cool. Suffers from the tiny trains though, having only one uphill portion. I guess those trains just don't weigh enough.
>>4737045
Screamin' Serpent was fucking cool, you take that back.

>>4736569
>that switch track
Cool stuff. Don't seem to be that much creativity involved however.

>>4736718
There's mods for 3D camera and now that the game have had some more development it looks quite good.

>>4736704
>>4736735
>>4736760
reddit is 95% trash but there's nothing wrong with using it for super niche special interests

>>4737292
I know anon. /r/rct has hit the point of being big enough to start attracting karma whores and it has turned into the usual trash. The scenario playthrough thing they have going right now is dope though

>>4737156
Cool! I'll try it out again

Mack Powersplash I did in Duerklink's server is pic related

>>4737327
>powersplash
Isn't it reversed? Does it do the backward-forward-backward-forward-splash thing?

>>4737143
>Screamin' Serpent was fucking cool, you take that back.
I mean that every K'nex rollercoaster ever has interesting track elements, that lego one just went around the block twice and was done.

>>4737345
its reverse inclined shuttle with 2 circuits, it only splashes while going forwards unfortunately

>>4736569
>Track not freeform
I'll pass

>>4737327
>The scenario playthrough thing they have going right now is dope though
just had a look at that

https://imgur.com/a/xGzhG
>this idiot

how the fuck do you manage to get a company value of -£7.5k on the original forest frontiers

>>4736568
these coasters are tight as a virgin

So I just discovered that linking up your RCT1 installation also lets you use the RCT1 terrain textures.

>>4738776
Pretty cool, right? I really wish I could find my RCT1 copy now. They're around here somewhere. I know I can just buy them again digitally, but I'm being stubborn about it, dammit!

>>4738821
Is there a RCT1 demo around like there is for 2?

>>4738286
Makes me wonder what the lowest possible company value you can get for it is, while still beating the objective.

Were the tracks named u(XXXX) in RCT Deluxe randomly generated?

>>4738845
From what I remember, those designs were player-made and included with Deluxe as a bonus.

>>4738830
Don't use the demo. It doesn't have everything the full game has:
https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2/wiki/Required-RCT2-files#mini-game

>>4737485
Isn't that good? I mean, the real world equivalent raises the water and only splash once, going forward.

>>4738440
This coaster could really have used a longer break run.

>>4738845
Were any of those tracks even any good?

>>4739171
it's not going too fast at that point but i see what you mean

>>4738850
>>4738845
Weren't some of them made by Chris Sawyer as well? He made two different packs, one named after women and the other phobias, I think...? They were nice, compact spaghetti coasters.

>>4739336
There is a -phobia series, but the other one is a bunch of Wild Mouse Coasters named after words featuring "cat"

>>4733535
If you're still here:
1. I'm starting up OpenTTD for the very first time. Which quality-of-life mods should I get just to make things nicer?
All I'm planning right now is some Japanese graphics pack, because I've long accepted my weeb-ness.
2. Is there any point to non-train stuffs? It feels like most guides, blog posts or YouTube videos, just focus on train tracks and not much on either trucks or airplanes.
Thanks a bunch.

>>4739497
I'm not him, but I can answer part of 2.
The reason there's usually so much focus on train stuff is because that's the most fleshed out system in the game, while the other transport systems feel almost barebones compared to it.
There are some mods to expand the other systems but they still end up feeling lacking compared to trains.

>>4739497
>a

>>4739230
They were okay, but custom tracks will always be best.

>>4739323
>it's not going too fast at that point
Yeah, it's more of a looks thing.

>>4739497
The JapanSet newgrfs are great, probably my most frequently used set. I recommend loading all of them if you are going to use them (trains, buildings, landscape stuff, signals, tracks, stations, etc.). After that you will want newgrfs for all the stuff JapanSet doesn't cover. Even if I'm not planning to use non-train vehicles much, I like to load newgrfs for them just in case I want to use them in some limited way (like a cute little ferry going to an island or something).
Trams are awesome, so you should always have eGRVTS loaded at a minimum, maybe some other themed tramset if you find one you like, but beware that the costs will probably not be balanced with eGRVTS.
For planes there's AV8 or World Airliner Set which are both pretty similar. Load one or the other.
For ships, use whatever the most recent variation of FISH is (Squid Ate Fish?).
Road Hog is a cool tramset that gives you industrial trams that are like mini-trains. They look cool at least.
I also strongly recommend a bridge set. TBRS is good and has a variant that matches the Japanset graphics.

In games where you aren't using Japanset, you will still want to load a trainset and an appropriate track set (2cc and nutracks for example), a bridge set, a station set, and probably a building/town/road graphics set. Many station sets (like the Japanese station set) just include passenger stations, so if you are also going to do freight you will want something like Industrial Stations Renewal (and the various DWE station/object sets that mesh nicely with ISR).

That's the practical stuff. I also like to load eyecandy, so I tack on pretty much every newgrf with "objects" in the name at the end of my list. My favorites are Dutch Road Furniture (which gives you cool-looking but purely cosmetic highways) and MariCo, which is very cool looking dock stuff (but you can't get it from the in-game content browser, the author makes you download it from his website for some reason).

>>4739497
For quality of life stuff, changing some of the default settings is the best thing you can do. This guy has the right idea >>4739520

I have a much longer list of changed settings myself. The most important changes for me are being able to build while paused, drastically increasing the station spread, turning off breakdowns and forbidding 90 degree turns, and using the 3x3 grid layout for towns instead of the stupid random road placement.
A number of my settings are tweaked for playing with Cargo Distribution on. That's pretty challenging so make sure you know what you are doing if you want to try paying with CargoDist. Basically it makes, for example, passengers have a specific destination in mind rather than being sheep you can herd to anywhere.

>>4739497
>Is there any point to non-train stuffs?
Other vehicles can complement your rail networks nicely. When I play a game focused on transporting passengers (which you pretty much have to do if you want to RP Japan), I want my cities to be lively, sprawling, and always growing. Cities grow when stations in the city are serviced frequently. An easy way to achieve that is to make a little tram loop around the central blocks of a town. Combined with a busy train station, a four-stop tram loop will max out the growth rate of the city, as in this pic.

I prefer to use trams over buses and other types of road vehicles because I freely use level crossings in my urban train stations, and if there are any stray RVs around they will inevitably crash into a train eventually. Trams can't go off their tracks, so if I make sure not to put level crossings over any tram tracks, there is no risk. Industrial trams can be useful in feeder systems, or in some specific situations in FIRS (industry overhaul newgrf with complicated supply chains).

Ships are nice for some flavor. With MariCo you can build some amazing looking dock complexes, so you might as well use them. They are actually useful for marine resources (only oil rigs in vanilla, but FIRS for example adds several more). Ferries are inferior to trains from a practical perspective, but if I have a little town on an island or something, running a ferry to it from a nearby city on the mainland feels better than an unrealistic rail bridge.

Planes are OP so many people eschew them. I hardly ever use them anymore, but if you limit yourself from overusing them, they can add some fun flavor as well. The planesets like AV8 and WAS add hundreds of real-world liveries, so it's fun to see the colorful birds taking off and landing at your airports, especially if you use eyecandy object sets to make beautiful transit hub complexes.

>>4739323
>that park area

sometimes it's good to just make something and get back into it

Why does every coaster I build typically have really low excitement and really really high intensity, what am I doing wrong, I don't see any problem with what I'm building but it seems like especially if you build a high lift hill then excitement plummets

>>4740140
Post an image of your coaster. I'd guess that you fail to manage the speed you get from higher lift hills. A higher lift hill means you have to follow up with large elements, not a tight knot of small curves and stuff.

>>4740140
you need to make lots of crests where the coaster just barely manages to summit them, you dont want a fucking bullet train

>>4740140
maybe build the coaster in a way that it would not break your neck if you rode it irl

>>4740140
BANK YOUR TURNS. If you already are, make wider turns at higher speeds, as well as making sure you don't go fast as hell through inversions

What sort of price should I be charging for park entry? Can't seem to find any hard rule on it.

>>4740102
too many right turns compared to left turns but I like the aesthetic

>>4740236
Generally i go as high as the lowest amount of money you see guests enter with. That way, those broke fucks get out of your park quicker to be replaced with other guests that have more money

>>4740146
I haven't saved any. I've just been getting discouraged and closing the game.

>>4740210
I'm banking my turns, but maybe I'm not making it "compact" enough. They tend to be sprawled out.

>>4740283
It's okay to have steep drops, but don't go so fast over hills or through inversions.

Spent far too long today creating this new terrain to build in, but I think it turned out pretty nice.

tried to make a jousting ring for my medieval themed area. It doesn't work perfectly but that's ok

>>4740335
Wasn't happy with this so I made another.

>>4740140
Please post a screenshot, there's dozens of things you can do wrong and we can't give you more than general advice without context.

>>4740283
As an example, here's an image I whipped up a few years ago that deals with common mistakes.

Remember, it's okay to start small. You can work your way up from small tracks until you get the hang of it. Nobody built the Millennium Force on their first try.

>>4737485
I think the boats face the other way irl though? idk maybe I just got confused

>>4740596
Given that image, I think my problems could mainly be steep twists at the bottom of a large drop and things like inversions or short banks at high speeds. That seems a lot more apparent now that I look at this. I'm going to play around and try to do something different. I've been sticking mostly to wooden coasters because they're my favorite irl.

>>4740621
In that case, I think I have another tip that may help you. Try finding a video or picture collection of a real-life wooden coaster, and remake it in RCT.

>>4740628
Let me give it a shot and see how it works.

>>4740634
Here's one I did of Cedar Point's Blue Streak coaster. It's not exact, since the original has some angles that can't be simulated with RCT's diagonals, but it's as close as I could get.

>>4740651
Tried to make the Son of Beast. It actually ended up with Medium excitement and Medium nausea, but intensity was still high. I'm pretty sure that's only because I underestimated the distance that an 80mph drop would get me. I'm going to keep messing with this.

>>4740702
>but intensity was still high.
I don't think that's a bad thing, Son of Beast was not known for being a gentle ride.

>>4740715
Even as high as ultra-extreme? I miss that rollercoaster.

>>4740495
Good idea. Perhaps make the length shorter, or make up by having the stands wider, and implement a food court at the top for maximum, ideal-fantasy comfiness.

we remakes now?

>>4740283
>I haven't saved any
Well do. It's hard to help you improve if we don't know what you're doing wrong. Try to make your coasters look like real world coasters.

>When you learn how to play Openttd and the game is no longer fun.

I kind of miss my spagette lines and being overwhelmed by everything. Now I boot up the game and make 6 billion dollars by the first year.

>>4741576
Congratulations, you got good.

>>4741576
So use that 6 billion to improve and set up new networks.
The aim isn't to make money, it's to grow your transportation network and the cities they service.
Maybe download some AI competitors.

>>4741576
Try Simutrans.

>>4740495
>that massive discrepancy in E/I/N between the two single-track coasters
The fuck?

>>4741934
I think it may have something to do with the single drop and short ride time.

>>4741934
one has a bigger drop than the other because i had to go under the other track underground.

Who else here has got the RCT soundtrack?

>>4742168
aww shit where'd you get this?

>>4741576
I fixed that by playing with a friend, and we would each try to grow a town of our choice that started below 200 pop, to a pop total of our choices from the start.

>>4742168
>Control Failure

>>4742009
>>4742103
Completely overlooked the second half of the stats boxes.

>>4742761
>when the carousel music goes to pieces

Why do people say SC2000 windows version is better than DOS version?

>>4743279
Higher resolution

>>4740495
You seriously tried to slip that maze past us didn't you?

Am I doing this right?

>>4740495
Shouldn't the jousters be going in opposite directions? Leave it to nazis to not know what jousting is.

The stand looks good though, you should duplicate it on the opposite side in a different color.

>>4742546
Bought it online when someone put a listing on Discogs
https://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-The-Bressingham-Voigt/release/2840687
It's also got a few songs that weren't in the game, "Stars And Stripes Forever", the rest of the "Medley of 1954"

>>4743371
Fuck, accidentally posted before I was finished, it's also got "Petersburgher Schlittenfahrt".
I'll see if I can record these songs and upload them somewhere, it sounds a lot better than it did ingame, even though the record isn't in the best condition

>>4742761
>Set record player to 45rpm
>I can break down the carousel on demand now

I just want a SimCity 3000 monthly budget mod...

>>4740562
>>4740335

SimCity 3000 was made in 1999.

I havent' felt this old before.

>>4743279
Better resolution and more cheats, if you're into that sort of thing.

>>4743374
I would love to hear it in better quality. This game made me love band organs.

>>4743309
Pretty alright. Very foresty.

What's the worst ride in the game and why is it Space Rings?

>rock bottom excitement
>despite being a gentle ride it has higher nausea than many rollercoasters
>very low profit per hour
>very low capacity
>basically a wasted research when it appears

>>4744584
I'm pretty sure it holds novelty longer than the fucking Crooked House, though.

>>4744584
I bet it holds novelty longer than the fucking Crooked House, though.

>>4744584
take a space rings, change the train type to mini golf, set it to 1 car, change it back to space rings. Now you can use the tile inspector to copy and paste the space rings track to use as a wall type or as a planter box.

Its invaluable

>>4743536
I turned 28 this year, it's a slippery slope.

>>4743309
Looks nice! I find the station for the shuttle launch a bit cramped on to the main path though, and the entrance tucked in the back behind the exit is a little "anti climatic" if you're a visitor in the park.

>>4744663
The Crooked House doesn't spit vomit all over your paths and hold up your handymen even more

>2018
>wooden coasters can do tons of crazy crap no one would've ever thought possible
>still no one has rebuilt "it"

>>4745963
the issue wasn't in building it and getting trains running on it, it was in how stupidly fucked the g forces were. I'm sure some company like RMC or GCI could easily make the same layout but it just wouldn't be safe to ride, and not as fun as their normal layouts anyway

>>4745963
>Ride features
> ...
>a spiral drop
>the emergency brakes
>a steep drop into the high speed figure eight
wot

>>4746764
>year 168

>>4746764
Looks great, but I'd remove that camera before the first drop, the box supports look ugly.

Come to think of it, it would be nice if OpenRCT2 could introduce a better-looking camera track piece. They're barely visible IRL.

>>4746764
other than having a pre-lift block brake and the cameras this is a perfect layout

Hell

>>4747036
t. Pablo G, you're not getting off this ride yet

>>4747043
HECK

In future threads can we still include "/vr/ct" in the subject for those who haven't caught up yet?

I went weeks without knowing about this thread because I don't browse /vr/ much besides

>>4747074
Yes, this is a good call. It should be in the body at least, like "formerly known as /vr/ct"

>>4747631
>/vr/ctcg

In the 16 years that this game has been around, and all the things I've learned about park and coaster design, I have still never once attempted to build one of these fuckers. Anyone have any of their own they're pleased with?

>>4748504
I've been on that coaster a few times, nothing has ever beat the face-first fall then flipping over on your back on the first vertical drop. Fun stuff.

>>4728003
huh i had no idea transport tycoon existed kinda excited to try it now

>>4748504
It's not the most elaborate design but it's alright I guess

>>4748504
Same, I guess I'm to lazy to bother with train alignment and shit.

https://www.nedesigns.com/park/4097/h2h8-r2-mzima-springs/

https://www.nedesigns.com/park/4098/h2h8-r2-studio-ghibli/

new matchup geddin

Alright boys and girls, the first round of the coaster contest is over. Vote for your favourite one here!

https://imgur.com/a/hqhGnGY
https://strawpoll.com/6r53f8sg

Alright boys and girls, the first round of the coaster contest is over. Vote for your favourite one here!

https://imgur.com/a/hqhGnGY
https://strawpoll.com/6r53f8sg

>>4750114
>no screenshots
Why do they always do this at NED?

Haven't really played since RCT2 came out, but I remember not liking RCT2 for some reason even though I loved 1. What are the big differences between 2 and 1?

>>4750692
2 mainly just has meh to garbage scenarios.

>>4750613
they don't have map previews during contest and stuff so that people will actually open the park and view it properly instead of looking at the preview and scoring based on that. It gets added later

>>4750269
lmao I didn't mean to enter that since I never finished it but ok I'll take it.

What's the best day you ever had at an amusement park? Not the best park you've been to, the best day you've had.

>September 2014
>go to Washington DC with family to see the usual famed sights
>go to Six Flags America
>barely anyone there
>everything open except for the two water rides
>walk-on every coaster and everything else
>two rides on Superman separated by about a minute of walking back through the empty queue
>two rides on Joker's Jinx where the operator let us stay in the train for the second lap
>got to ride every coaster at a park I'd never been to before on the first visit.

The park itself is kinda weak compared to the two other Six Flags' I've been to (Great Adventure and my home park Magic Mountain), but god damn, what a great time. I only recently learned that their "Wild One" wooden coaster has been operating one way or another since fucking 1917, making it the oldest roller coaster I've ever ridden.

>>4750841
Six Flags America was honestly an awful park. I haven't been there since like 2002 though, so maybe it has improved.
I know what you mean about that empty park experience though.

>>4750841
Probably the last time I went to Magic Mountain sometime in 08/09? We hit every coaster in the park (that was open) during the day. At night we came back and did X again cause they shoot fire and shit, my dad lost his glasses on it.

I've also been to Six Flags in Vallejo but it only has a couple coasters, only one being decent. Been to both these parks several times in the 2000's.

I've also been on the triple loop in West Edmonton Mall many times, it being the first coaster I ever went on in 02.

>>4750841
>tfw Six Flags Astroworld has been closed for nearly 15 years now

Prime real estate and that shit is still a vacant lot.

Talking about parks, what new coasters are you hyped about going on this season?

Is there no general for Planet Coaster?
Sorry for getting off topic, that just surprised me, as well as the Tycoon games merger. Haven't been here in quite a while.

>>4751619
It couldn't survive on /vg/. Feel free to talk about it here.

>>4751619
>/vr/

>>4751625
Don't.

>>4751630
I know, I checked /vg/, it's just I know people posted PC stuff here in the past so I wanted to ask.

>>4751625
RIP, but also good.

>>4751642
We did some when it was new. It doesn't disturb here for the same reason it didn't survive on /vg/ - there isn't that much to talk about.

>>4751619
I visited /v/ and /vg/ a couple of times around release and there were the occasional thread, but I don't think enough people play it to keep a general alive. When it comes to modern games I mostly play Parkitect nowadays anyway.

>>4734953
Fair enough, although I get less pollution than that by the time I have through and through high-density zoning.
Your city is a rather small town for now, do you plan on growing it or maintaining such low density?

>>4734953
You've made me want to dig out my pride and joy.
Here's the CBD of my city. Check out the minimap to see how fully urbanized the whole area is. It's all or almost all high density.

>>4734953
...and check out my pollution levels.

>>4751789
>>4734953
I'm very proud of my public transport. I didn't want to sound like a cunt because you're doing a more road-based thing, I guess my autistic reflex is to plan for full-on density right away. But whatever works for you.

Check out how there's railway lines every few blocks. The railways I built practically from day one. There's no highways except one ring highway along the very border of the map, which I built very late in game. Also no buses. Never had any problems with traffic or pollution.

>>4751790
The subway I mostly built rather late in the game. Initially I'd build the odd trunk line in areas with poor transportation (I did have problems with that on some occasion), when I was gushing cash I went all out.

>>4750841
Every year I go to Cedar Point, it gets better.
Personal highlights include:
>riding Blue Streak 12 times in a row at night
>first hypercoaster ride ever on Magnum
>that last ride on Mean Streak before construction

I try to go at least once every year.

>>4751730
Is Parkitect still in development or was it fully released?

>>4751815
>tfw might move to Ohio from Arizona
>mfw looking at the coasters within and relatively near the state
>mfw no reaction image truly expresses my excitement

>>4733892

>you can only develop farms if they don't have water

What did Will Wright mean by this?

>>4750793
whoops lol, I think it's really nice though!

it's a recreation of the Smiler, right?

>>4751948
They can develop with water, it's just that water access raises the land value, and that makes it more difficult.

>open SC2k, 3k or 4
>create a city
>try do not make grids
>1000 years later
>grid city

I am brainlet to design.

>>4751995
Try working with more rugged terrains. Rivers, islands, mountains, forests, do something to try and break up the grids.

>>4751948
Ever heard of a well? Farms tend to have those.

>>4750269
>https://imgur.com/a/hqhGnGY
Why do all of the submissions have 10 inversions when >>4733956 says GREATER than 10?
Did really nobody catch that?

Unless that's supposed to be greentext.

>>4748504
You can mess around with the angle of the seats but as far as I can tell it's purely cosmetic. They're usually not worth building because the E/I ratio usually ends up being shit unless you're really good at this game.

>>4751787
>>4751789
>>4751790
>>4751793
It took me a moment to realize it was on the same map! I always find it difficult to get to that level of 'tism for grids and zone maxing. Looks great!

>>4752064

>>4752321

>>4728048

>>4752480
That would be terrifying as fuck irl. Imagine you're just having a burger minding your business and you start hearing all sorts of rumbling, clanking and people screaming just ten feet above you

>>4750841
>Also 2014
>Go to Holiday Park at Forecast rainy day
>Its merely cloudy
>They have one big coaster Expedition GeForce
>Ride it a total of 17 times plus other Stuff in between.
Pic related is a height profile I took with a little Pressure sensor and datalogger.

>>4751815
Magnum is fucking cool. I've only been to Cedar Point once, for about a week-long stay. On the last night, I went on Magnum right before closing. At the top of the second hill, the night sky and Lake Erie kinda blended together into a featureless black void. It felt like I was at the edge of an actual RCT park.

>>4752064
lmao
Everyone is disqualified.

>>4751790
>>4734953

Is there a way to make a roadless city in this game?

I've seen the magnasanti video where it seems to be pure sub-to-train depot transport, but I've been unable to duplicate that on even the smallest scale. Industrials do not develop because they can't establish outgoing trips that involve subway.

>>4752856
I should add that when I loaded a copy of the magnasanti city in SC3k Unlimited, it gets abandoned almost immediately ("Insufficent transportation to other zones"). So much for 50,000 years of stagnant population.

Something was changed in the final release?

ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJQTc-TqpU

>>4752868
I believe it's because it works for the original 3k that Magnasanti was built in, but doesn't work with the updated worldwide editions.

>>4751815
I miss Cedar Point so fucking much. I miss Magnum and experiencing that first drop on Millennium. And I want to ride the new Gatekeeper!

So after Forest Frontier i tried leafy lake. I've been looking at screenshoots of your creations to improve myself. After all something is shitty but i don't know what, help anons

What is the hardest scenario across RCT 1 and 2?

>>4753178
OOOO CHASE ME CHASE ME ;o

>>4752480
>>4752526
>having a burger at a nice food court
>hear rumbling
>look up
>"oh that's wicked they put a track right over the food court! wow we get to watch the trains go by!"
>rumbling gets louder as the train approaches
>one rider loses his shoe and it hits my gf in the head knocking her unconscious
>the ride was too intense for another, in which he proceeds to vomit over the side of the train, kindly not wanting his breakfast to end up over his fellow passengers
>every patron in the food court gets free breakfast rained down upon them
yea real great design you got there

>>4753178
You don't have to use all one color.

>>4753178
I'd suggest painting up Ogglock there, maybe a black roof with dark red walls.

>>4753401
How in the fuck do you lose a shoe on a sit-down coaster with a floor, much less a B&M sit-down?

I'm going tot ry and get back into this game. I've already installed openrc2 and everything. Any suggestions on design?

>>4752480
Would you like some hearing damage with your burger?

First time playing in some time. Just using pre-built coasters because I am total ass at making custom ones.

>>4753826
Obviously still have a lot of space to fill in with detailing.

>>4752856
It's possible, but a bit of a pain in the ass since your only viable transportation options are rails and subways.

>>4752975
Gatekeeper has got to be the most visually impressive ride at the park. It's not the most intense, but it makes up for it by being really cool.
I still haven't been on Valravn, I was waiting for the novelty to wear off so I won't have to wait an hour to ride it.

>>4753178
>cedar hedge maze looking food court
>giant log cabin style building for the coaster
That's what I like most about this.
I'd just like to remind you that you don't have to put a loop on every wooden coaster you make.

>>4753449
Download the /v/ pack and RCT1 maps, the base game for RCT2 hasn't got much in terms of maps.

>>4753826
That coiled double loop coaster looks really cool. I like how compact it is.

>>4753924
I wish I made it myself!

Made a pond.

>>4753938
Made the pond into more of a stream, filled in some more gardens, and made a decent custom wood roller coaster that goes off to the right.

>>4753250

Big Pier
Rainbow Valley

As a kid I never had the expansions and I haven't unlocked it in my new GOG copy, but Micro Park sounds like a bitch.

Also, they're not necessarily hard, but I hate doing the "park value" maps, or really any of the maps that start out with more than one rollercoaster.

>>4753938
>>4754076
i just started forest frontiers for the first time in years and god i wish i could make mine look that good

>>4754081
uh yeah ignore the double overpass path on the left, i forgot to remove the one on the right

>>4754086
i won the scenario, i suppose now's the time for the real game, building a park i actually like

>>4754081
>>4754105
I've been playing RCT since 2001 or so I've had some time to get halfway decent at decorating at least. Still no good at making custom coasters. Always enjoyed the landscaping more anyway. My "trick" is to cram as many details and doodads into every tile that compliment each other thematically and try to have a good palette of colours.

>>4754119
Also I just straight up cheat for money, that always helps.

>>4754119
>>4754126
that looks great anon. i'm probably going to just cheat for money, i've played enough by now and in the past to just cheese it and go for design. your park looks "alive" man, i want to get that, i'm going to keep working on it.

>>4754136
Thanks buddy. I'd also recommend to avoid "unrealistic" infrastructure like the high walkways over stuff.

>>4754079
Park Value sucks because that just means "build like 90 launched freefalls"

Did up the other side of the creek and filled in more empty spots.

>>4754320
or
or, you could just play the park naturally and not be a bullshitter

>>4754447
>implying i want to rebuild every single coaster and ride after half a year

>>4754458
How are you even supposed to do these kinds of scenarios (without just building a fuckload of launched freefalls)? I swear to god I've attempted Gravity Gardens 20 fucking times and I've only been able to beat it if I cheat in money and build a fuckload of sheckelmachines.

The only feasible way I see to do it is to just build so many fucking rides that it tanks your FPS.

>>4754320
>>4754483
If it works, it works.

>>4754503
This is not okay

Welp I guess that's that for this map. Now to figure out what to make next... Definitely something with more scenery.

Made up this landscape in the editor, let's see how it goes.

I'm working on a Sim City 3000 landscape. What do you guys like to see on those?

I have not played this game for a long time.

>>4754839
A huge bay.

>>4754839
Something I evidently can't describe or create because I'm rarely happy with the landscapes I make. It's gotta have hills, waterfront, and enough flat space.

>>4754848
That's some next level shit mang.

>>4754810
A bit too square. Still trying to figure out the variables in OpenRCT2's landscape generator too.

>>4754848
Good ol' Crackle Canyon.

>>4754883
It was the least square of all the ones I tried to generate this evening, lol. Has a good balance of water/land.

>>4754854
>>4754863
How's something like this?

>>4754938
I like it.

streaming my collab spot

>guest walks into bathroom while eating ice cream cone

>>4753250
Amity Airfield
Rainbow Valley

>>4755038
You should probably mention where.

>>4754810
Wew, that looks almost like the landscapes I build when I really REALLY try to build a nice looking park. The forests look exactly like I build them.

>tfw replaced by machines

>>4755479
Very nice. The layout on the Schwarzkopf is solid, I like the white track ride in the garden, and the stations on both coasters look great.

The only things I'm not on a fan of are the raised s-turn on the wooden coaster, and the large rocky area that seems to just be a food court rather than hold any attractions. Unless there's something there I'm not seeing?

Overall, very good park.

>>4755496
It's just a food court. I couldn't fit anything in there that didn't look like shit so I just made it a little rocky walk-through area with a ton of seats and food.

Also the raised S-turn was due to the park border. Someone else made this scenario for a contest a while ago and it ended up being super fun and nice to build in.

May as well post some of my shit, maybe start some discussion.

>>4755643
>Someone else made this scenario for a contest a while ago and it ended up being super fun and nice to build in
Agreed. Yours is nicer than mine I think. I really like the big pavilion in the middle, it's quite unique.

>>4751815
Wow. I underestimated /tcg/, I'm jealous now.

>>4755070

>guest pays $20.00 to use the bathroom

Post your Big Piers.

>>4756303

>>4755220
It's my "ideal" kind of landscape! The program only generated the terrain, I did the trees roughly with the tree brush thing.

>>4756367
I think you need to break up the hills a little for it to look really good. Or simply build on it.

>>4756392
I plan to build primarily in the areas without trees and have tracks extend into the forested areas. Will probably be finessing some terrain features by hand as well.

>>4756428
Meant to post this with an updated pic of the park.

>>4756438
How do you get so much cash?

>>4756438
>more than two turnarounds in a helix
You should probably make that one turn less desu.

>>4752856
I did it in SC2K. It should be doable in 3K but it is a slow process if you don't cheat. You have to do some trial runs first to see how far away from a sub/rail station development starts so that you can maximize land for development. Industry needs seaport and commercial needs airport so you have plan accordingly.

>>4754938
Looks quite boring. I would go all out with hills and valleys to make it challenging. The resulting city would look nice with plenty of trees.

>>4756475
Cheat menu in OpenRCT2.

>>4756503
I've never been good at making coasters and I'm forcing myself to go all custom in this park. The stats for it aren't too extreme so I'll keep that in mind for future coasters.

>>4756551
>Cheat menu
I am very disappointed in you.

>>4756558
I don't give a shit bruv! I'm just trying to relax on the weekend and make a nice park.

>>4756551
holy fuck my dude you've opened mine eyes

>>4756558
once you've made successful parks the "right" way so many times, sometimes you want the real challenge of seeing what you can really do without limitations

I've decided that I'm going to play through all of RCT's scenarios, and try to complete all of them. Fucking rip me.
I'll post progress if anyone cares.

>>4756648
I care anon. I've tried to do that in the past but only make it through the first half at most.

>>4756648
Make sure to play through all of the /v/pack too.

>>4755673
Fantastic theme work.
Your buildings are so attractive it's hard to believe they are made out of such common scenery objects.
I think a cable car/gondola could work nicely in that area.

>>4756664
I might not. Not because I don't want to, but because I don't think some of the parks are possible.
I spent 10 hours trying to figure out how one scenario called I think Luna Park, where you started off with no land whatsoever, and no attractions or stalls at all, and you just have to figure out which research paths to take. I almost always ran out of money before even opening the park.

I appear to not have the park anymore so I might be in the clear.

>>4756760
See
>>4754503
Lunaland is one of the easier 'hard' maps.

Didn't turn out too bad! A little jank in a few places.

>>4756771
How was it done?

Also the scenario is definitely not in the /v/pack.

>>4756808
That's because Lunaland wasn't made by /v/. There's old download links in the archive that will have it I'm sure.
All you need to do it put down things that make money. Which in this case is food/drinks/ souvenir stalls and let it run for a while unattended while some cash flow starts.

>>4756392
That looks like it's an official Six Flags park. Nice.

>>4756821
>That's because Lunaland wasn't made by /v/.
oh

>>4756834
Regardless, the /v/ pack has a lot of scenarios that have unrealistic goals. It should be obvious early on which are playable, and which aren't, so skipping around helps.

Perhaps we should make a list of /v/ pack parks and rate them on different categories, like difficulty, landscape, effort involved, etc

>>4756840
been meaning to organise the /v/pack for years but its such a daunting task. We could maybe set up some sort of group project on the discord for it?

>>4756869
Sure. The next order of business is finding criteria for sorting them into.

I wanted to make a bigger beach section but forgot I didn't pick pirate theming...

>>4756930
When is OpenRCT2 going to remove those fucking scenery item limits?

>>4756840
I can confirm everything in the /v/pack is beatable.

Except 5 Corners but we don't talk about that. My bad.

>>4756954
>forcing people to make a stand up at like 7.20 excitement

You'd have better luck beating Vidya Valley without splash boats.

>>4756954
I have not forgotten about 5 Corners.

>>4756962
...but I did beat Vidya Valley without splash boats.

>>4756970
This image is important /vr/ct lore.

Havent played in like a year, how do i get back into it? I do not like Forest Frontiers, the variety's a bit basic for my liking.

>>4756989
I assume you're looking to do scenario play?

>>4757017
I guess, it's just that forest frontier's too "beginner" for me

>>4757021
If you don't mind desert maps, the RCT map Bumbly Bazaar is a good starting place. Funtopia (RCT1 Expansion) is really good, too.

>>4756989
just play a random difficult scenario. Ivory Towers? Rainbow Valley? Urban Park? etc etc

Give yourself extra challenges for each scenario, Like "complete with only one flat ride" for Forest Frontiers, or not buying land in Haunted Harbour

>>4757021
If you don't mind desert maps, the RCT2 map Bumbly Bazaar is a good starting place. Funtopia (RCT1 Expansion) is really good, too.

Dynamite Dunes down.
I fucking failed this scenario the first attempt because I thought the objective said 350 guests, not 650. I'm a dipshit.

I'm glad I'm going through all of the official scenarios. I want to build up a backlog of parks that I can use to create something cozy with.

>>4757049
Also I didn't skip Forest Frontiers.

I need to make more use of Junior Coasters more for these early scenarios because apparently they're OP as fuck if the guests don't have a high intensity tolerance.