/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[05-03] Anon's ZScript video tutorials
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4744020/#4748086

[04-30] PROJECT ILE version 0.23 released
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4741726
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e52z704ui56acjm/Project%20ILE.rar

[04-27] Powerslave EX Revival "not far" according to lead developer
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/989945964831105024

[04-27] Further details of upcoming DOOM movie
https://geektyrant.com/news/doom-reboot-reportedly-has-a-director-and-lead

[04-26] FreeDoom maps, as PWADs
https://mega.nz/#F!j0cgkJKT!QXo16jxgK1iQf-92Sx1gdA

[04-26] func_msgboard is having a 100-brush mapping contest
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61565

[04-26] New Q1SP map, Mire Prison by jcr - feedback requested
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1iwq_lBPaEDxqee4Qr430fCequXNyx3Fs

[04-26] Anon map release: Old Research Sector
https://mega.nz/#!AVcwWADK!qxrEr7yMG_TxYLyfqxOohQJtszlT2k_9vt4NlL9CMxQ

[04-25] A new beta for Brutal Doom v21 released:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta

[04-24] Dimension of the Boomed, a Quake themed mapset currently in beta.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed-beta2-release/

[04-23] Babel 4-23-2017 update, mostly bug fixes.
https://babel-mod.neocities.org/

[04-23] Mr. Friendly alpha release, turns Doom into "an Animal Crossing-like nonviolent social space"
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[04-22] Anon mod release: CLANG.wad, replaces every sound with CLANG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4k2bxhorxb4vyo/CLANG.wad?dl=1

[04-22] Anon map release: roomv4.wad
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f3xu3bifrox8mb2/roomv4.zip (original)
https://my.mixtape.moe/ylyuxt.wad (update)
https://my.mixtape.moe/aaczhx.wad (another update)

[04-22] Anon map release: no title given, forest/cave map
https://my.mixtape.moe/abvwgx.wad

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>>4750507
>[04-27] Powerslave EX Revival "not far" according to lead developer
yeah right, not after Kanye made his recent public remarks about slavery being voluntary. To revive a game with a racist name like "powerslave" now would be suicide for any company and a career ending move for any and all developers involved.

r&i

Yo what in the god damn fuck am I supposed to keybind in order to switch between weapon mods in D4T? I've been fucking with this shit for an hour now and nothing works, it's really pissing me off.

Have anybody made a mod that places PSX lighting in PC maps?

Would a "how to make a multiple frame switch" tutorial be of any use to anyone? I'm working on that.

I'm amazed that Caleb is still the best cowboy ever in a video game. Not that he could ever be surpassed, but no one's even trying.

>>4750717
I thought he's more of a mix between a cowboy and a gangster, since he chucks dynamites and carries a tommygun.

>>4750717
>best
Have you even played Red Dead?

does anyone have the Harris levels? are they any good?

>>4750727
yes
no

>>4750627
I think you supposed to press the same key you chose for changing mods.
Same goes when you went to stop the demon transformation. Which is bugged in the latest version.

>>4750776
Yeah but what key changes mods?

>>4750782
The same that activates them

>>4750782
I havn't played in a while, but doesn't D4T have its own controls section? Either at the bottom of the controls list or in its own mod menu?

i have no fucking idea how I am to animate this.

How many gameplay mods out there have a feature that lets you push back monsters?

I'm designing a map at the moment and I'm thinking of having a death pit in it, which can be utilized by players to push some enemies into, rather than just a hazard for the player to avoid.

>>4750717
I think the High Noon Drifter (even though he's a mod, so probably doesn't count) would see him in a strange way.

They're both supernatural cowboys who fuck around with the undead, but drifter never speaks and Calebs a psychotic misanthrope.

>>4750840
the space pirate does, and i think so do wild weasel's the stranger mod

>>4750837
https://www.dualheights.se/caustics/#download

>>4750847
How do they do it?
Like you get a powerup? Or can you just push them back from the get go?

>>4750848
Holy shit, this is really cool. Thanks, anon.

>>4750854
its an alt-fire for starting melee in both of the mods im sure

brutal doom

>>4750840

>>4750884
>all done under 64kb
Fucking TEXTURES, man. I kinda wish there was a standard Doom style aiming mode for this, the sprites are so goddamn good.

>>4750884
Anyone is free to use the sprites. You can even export TEXTURES definitions as pngs.

Also I would just finish the next release of the damn thing if I could get over having to delve in to fuckin' zscript menus.

>>4750887
Anyone is free to use the sprites. You can even export TEXTURES definitions as pngs. I would just finish the next release of the damn thing if I could get over having to delve in to fuckin' zscript menus.

Also: those ice shards are zombieman gun barrels.

>>4750884
heh, what is this, CyClones?

>>4750884
What's up with that HUD?

>>4750897
system shock themed mod for the old 64kb contest on ZDF. there's a version 2 in perpetual (?) development hell.

I'M GOING TO MARRY DOOMGUY!

who determined how high doomguy can jump?

>>4750926
randi I'd guess. Being able to jump over pinkies is really stupid.

>>4750927
Not really, it adds a gameplay element to jumping. Otherwise it's pretty much useless.

>>4750926
Raven with Hexen.

>>4750929
I find it really unbalanced to be able to crowdsurf so easily.

>Otherwise it's pretty much useless.
Except for you know, playing Hexen or Strife or zdoom maps that make use of it. Which reminds me, jump height might just be taken straight from Hexen source code.

>>4750935
I thought Zdoom added jumping before adding support for other games.

>>4750939
Hexen was the first game using the doom engine to include jumping. I assume whoever developed zdoom just took that mechanic from Hexen and added it as a feature.

>>4750938
You can do it on lower tier monsters, as far as I remember you can't do it to Barons or Cyberdemons.

>>4750940
zdoom started development in 99, I think, and Raven released the source code in 2000, so it's possible. Anyway, I just checked in-game, all three classes can jump over a pinky with little trouble.

>Download a Revenant,Imp and Arachnotron models for Q3:Arena
>Fight with them with Doomguy(of course)
>There is an arena that is really close to Doom
>Fun as hell

Man now I have to do it again with the Entryhall map.
Are there any matches you made with certain custom models that you particularly enjoyed?

Well I'll be damned, this actually turned out pretty good. For a first try, anyway. I'll probably still polish it more.

>>4750727
No and no.

>>4750998
Rad.

What are some bright and colorful megawads that don't have custom enemies?

>>4751068
Alfonzone maybe?
Atleast the first episode is certainly colorful

>>4751068
Ancient Aliens has 2 new enemies that replace the wolfenstein ss and commander keen classes so you can use your preferred monster replacement wads without issue, most certainly.

https://www.file-upload.com/st46aoc8715i
I made this WAD for the original lost soul design, but the brightmaps I made aren't working. Anyone know why? It sems like I did all that was needed.

reached the third episode of hexen

In which stream vod does Joel play the map wrong that causes the creator to get butthurt and email him? I want to see that.

>>4751079
That's Heresiarch's Seminary right? That's probably my favorite hub. Good luck.

>>4751082
I think the second one?

>>4751082
How would you know what to look for, do you know the name of the map?

>>4751105
I have no idea, but some people were talking about it in a previous thread so somebody probably knows.

I think I'm keeping the throwing knives, just gotta rework them some.

I'm a fan of the console Doom ports, specifically the Sony PlayStation port. I don't know if many people are but I do have a question pertaining to them:

Is there a mod that has the "simplified" versions of the console Doom maps, stemming back from the Atari Jaguar version, as well as the console exclusive maps? Is there also a mod that contains the sound effects from the Saturn/PlayStation versions? The only mod that I know of is CONSOLEDOOM.WAD, but this incorporates some levels from Doom 64 into the mix, which is, while still cool, something that I don't prefer. The PSX Doom Total Conversion is impressive, but is a hassle to setup, and all I'm really wanting are the simplified levels and sound effects, something that can be easily done with a WAD or two.

>>4751168
not sure if this is different from what you're talking about but: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36600

If anyone is interested, here is an "okay" run of map 1 of Favillesco Alpha Episode 2 with a custom version of Hideous Destructor. The map doesn't throw any really dangerous monsters at the player so the video turned out fairly boring. Like an idiot I also didn't realize my cropping made the video so fucked on youtube. So much unused screen space holy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUj-QBQhL70

>>4750507
I've released a new mod - it's sort of similar to Colorful Hell in concept but the execution is rather different:

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

>>4751168
Sounds like you want consolation prize.

>>4751178
>>4751223
Both are looking similar to what I'm looking for. Thanks for the suggestions. Gonna try these out.

>>4751215
how's that customgun thingy going?

>>4751242
breddy gud - I'm working on split system so you can have stuff like seeking incendiary or bouncy explosive shots and stuff

Redneck Rampage is currently on sale on GOG.Should I buy it?Or pass?

Shub-Niggurath? More like, Shub.. The nigger wrath!

>>4750975
Do you have the Doomguy sound pack installed? If not, your game has been incomplete so far. http://www.moddb.com/mods/classic-doom-and-quake-voices

>>4751278
This isn't /v/, please don't use the n-word around here.

>>4751293
Niggur lover.

>>4751293
n-word

>>4751292
Holy shit man,thanks.

>>4751317
You're welcome, anon. Show them who rules the Arena.

>>4750857
what wad? looks like btsx e2 but i dont remember anything like that

I'm thinking of creating a survey here on doom music. Namely about what sort of music is appropriate in a wad. Not sure of the names of the music types though.

>MIDI only
>Older "modern" type music. Eg: Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex type stuff
>Full modern, modern day electronic, orchestral themes.
>Basic"

>>4751334
i like all of those

>>4751334
It just has to fit the theme of the wad is all.

>>4751105
>do you know the name of the map?
Soundless Mound or something, apparently.

>>4751334
can't beat MIDI renditions of 80s/90s pop songs

What's the best source port and why is it Crispy Doom?

Am I the only who thinks that Xaero was a random choice for a final boss? I know you have different cyborgs,aliens and demons but never seen a Shaolin Monk in any of the ID games.

Btw would you like to see him again in Champions?

>>4751265
It's kind of unpolished and finicky and hasn't aged very well compared to other build engine titles.
But if your super bored and can get past that why not.

>>4751334
As long as it doesn't make my ears bleed, I couldn't care less.

beat the third episode of hexen and now i got to build a clock, i guess

>>4751168
>Is there a mod that has the "simplified" versions of the console Doom maps, stemming back from the Atari Jaguar version, as well as the console exclusive maps?
I think so, yes.

>>4751293
shut up, nigger

>>4751334
ultimately it really doesn't matter, the priority is what fits the most with a mapset and the aesthetic it's trying to go for. you don't want pop music on a moody and grim mapset, for example.

in terms of personal preference, though, i've been turned on to tracker music and module music. there's a lot of damn fine tracker songs out there, lots of emphasis on a grooving melody

send help

>>4751385
only for him to receive infinite amounts of comparisons to zenyatta?

>>4751479
newfags and normies don't know shit

Jesus Christ

>>4751483
What did you expect?

What are some good megawads that take place in areas other than techbases, hell, and hellbases?

>>4751487
Epic2, and Ancient Aliens off the top of my head. I've been playing Doom since i was eight but I am only getting into mods in the last two years.

>>4751483
post RAM usage

>>4751491
You have missed out on a lot, then.

>>4751385
>Xaero
I always forgets he exists, until someone reminds me of him, not even the topic of Q3A reminds me that he was a thing.

>>4751385
I like the cyborg monk concept. This guy was another fun take on it

>>4750795
If it does I'm not seeing it.

>>4751532
Fuck, meant to reply to >>4750810

>>4751265
yes

>>4750840
Who is this madness?

>>4751091
ive still got the female heresiarch sprite sheet somewhere that someone made, the tits bounce like a woman's ought to in real life

>>4749818

what site is this? is not gamefront

>>4751560
Found it in a Steam discussion
here it is: http://en.ws.q3df.org/models

>>4750884
>>4750909
>still no completed Doom Shock mod

>>4751563

thanks

seems to not be indexed by jewgle

>>4751568
s-sorry

>>4751359
What? Nah, that wasn't it. That wad was made by a tripfag on here, while the complaining guy was an anon (who never mentioned what their wad was).

>>4751483
>massive map
>1/3rd of it is hallways

>>4751586
dude

it's every doom 2 map put together

>>4751591
how do keys work?

>>4751591
...oh

>>4751483
What wad is this?

>>4751603

Memorial.

>>4751483
I don't even want to see someone play this with Hideous Destructor, Extreme Weapons Pack, or Project Brutality. However, I would want to see someone play this with Russian Overkill, 20x Monsters, GMOTA, or Project Babel.

>>4751610
Thanks anon

>>4751616
Protip: it literally says so in the middle of the image

>>4751618
I thought it was just the name of the map,not of the wad itself.

Currently playing Project Brutality with PSX Doom Consolation Prize with Doomguy PSX cover mugshot and hud.
Have to admit,it's really fun.

Just wondering, does every megawad must have their path to secret levels in map 15 or can it be different?

>>4751616
what the fuck

whose retarded idea was it to give BJ buckteeth

>>4751638
mine.

>>4751635
>Doomguy PSX cover mugshot
Link?

>>4751645
Here you go
http://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/psone-cover-art-doomguy-mugshot

>>4751638
he looks like a downie.

>>4751638
Tried to fix it with paint.

>>4751681
not him but that does look better. mouth corners could be darker/mouth could be slightly larger, but still. quite the improvement.

>>4751685
in fact, make his entire skin darker
and his hair black, too

>>4751662
That stuff is the coolest shit.

>>4751662
is that you tzk

>>4751614
You'll get to see something like that very soon :^)

>>4751662
DoomCenter is a good wad.

Speaking of Wolfenstein before.
>Decided to check out one of my favourite weapon mods
>Doom Incarnate
>See it got an update
>Check it out
>Get this title screen
Holy shit

>>4751741
Not that bad, aside from this maybe.

>>4751743
I think it will be fixed soon,the creator updates this mod regularly.
Plus the fire and B.J. move,not in many gameplay mods the title screen does that.

Has there ever been a mod anyone is surprised nobody made off shoots mods or addons for it?

can I use trenchbroom to make a cs1.6 map?

>>4751794

A lot, actually.
There's a lot of truly fantastic mods that don't get a lot of love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdl4-5tSMg

>>4751637
map15 is the only map to work with secret exits in vanilla. zdoom lets you change that, but that means locking your maps into zdoom, so it almost never happens.

>>4751821
Can you name some?

I've found that to make dynamic spotlights look good, you need to place them in a dummy sector behind where you want them to actually be. Also helps to give the light texture a higher brightness than the surrounding textures, since the spotlight behind it won't light it up.

Who's your favourite character in Samsara?And why?

>>4751859
i have more fun playing as dick kickem in samsara than in his own game and im not sure why

>>4751859
It's a tie between Parias and Duke, Parias is great because having the Sapphire wand along with the serpent staff, hammer of retribution and the fucking wraithverge, the guy has a lot of options for destroying shit.

and good ol douk with his mighty boot shenanigans for all of his weapons gives him a lot of flexibility up close, plus his ripper cannon is insane.
BOOORRRN TO BE WIIIIIiiiIIIILLLD

>>4751849

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=52041 - I really enjoy this. The alternate weapon loadout is neat, but generally the "low tech" theme is one that needs done more often.
GMOTA is really fun and I expect an add-on to be made for it soon.
Dakka is less well-known but still is just begging for more content to be slapped on it.
Hideous Destructor has been around for an eternity and I'm amazed at how there hasn't been a single damn offshoot/addon mod for it.

>>4751859
security officer GOAT

qcde irredeemably fucked him up

>>4751871
>I expect an add-on to be made for it soon.
What makes you think that?

>>4751874

Optimism and wishful thinking.

>>4751875
I guess my other question would be what would you want to see as an add-on?

WHO IS C.KID

>>4751895
an OC

>>4751841
I've seen a lot of love for Ed Edd and Eddy lately. People are okay sometimes.

>>4751901
they are cute

>>4751805
Probably not at the moment, but IIRC GoldSrc support is listed as a feature the author wants to add at some point.

>>4751865
Surprisingly my favourite is Blazko.I don't know is problably the fact that he has some exclusive weapons that were absent in his game.
Plus the sound effects are hilarious

>>4751915
They weren't absent, they were in Spear Of Destiny. Right? I mean, that's what I always thought but I could be wrong.

>>4751917
The flame thrower and rocket launcher were added in ports, such as SNES and Mac versions.
SoE is a bit of an original piece inspired by both the Wolfenstein 3d prequel and the weapon of the same name in the RPG mobile game.

>>4751917
In Spear of Destiny you don't actually use the Spear of Destiny. Also, Rocket Launcher and Flamethrower were Mac and Consoles only.

>>4751919
Mapset?

>>4751924
>>4751927
Right, okay. Now i have my facts straight. Also, the RPG mobile game is fun as hell. Playing through it right now, and I started right after I beat Doom RPG.

which version of Doom RPG 2 should I play, the touch screen version or the original

>>4751932
Which one is better?Wolf RPG or Doom RPG?

>>4751859
Caleb. Because Caleb guns.

Addons aside, Parias because of what >>4751865 said.

>>4751929
Cod1-11.wad

>>4751935
Play them both, Doom RPG first. Trust me, Wolf RPG has more features but Doom RPG is a shitton of fun and really helps you learn to play those games. If you play through Doom RPG first you get a better hang of the controls and how to use your inventory. Wolf RPG is a thousand times more fun if you know what the fuck you're doing.

>>4751859
Something about BJ is so appealing. Maybe it's the jank oldschool movement and the chaingun. Ranger comes a close second.
I don't think anyone likes Chex.

>>4751940
Ooh I like that shotgun, was it made specifically for D-RADYS or can it be found as a resource somewhere?

>>4751614
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AFESaT5xd2MP/
Fucking hell this took FOREVER to finish processing. Pretty neat map but it's fucking yuge.

>>4751886

If I was personally doing an add-on, I'd give Blaz a shotgun instead of the Blazter.

>>4751956
a kickass crusader swapping between shotgun and sword would be a mod i would play for years

>>4751956
So how would you handle the other upgrade items and the subshots?

>>4751962
Doomslayer can already do that.

>>4751965
doomslayer isn't as cool as blaz, change my mind

>Huge, elaborate, difficult map that has over a hundred enemies, one of each weapon, at least one megasphere, and a boss fight
>Exit level
>Underhalls
I don't know why it cracks me up every time.

>>4751965

Well now we're getting into scenarios that require plans and design rather than a "would be nice" situation.
But off the top of my head, if I was making an add-on, the RL upgrade for the shotgun would be the ability to load up multiple shells for stronger/wider sprays, while the PR upgrade would be invoking the spirit of a dead angel into the gun to make it an automatic-firing explosive-shell death machine for a short time.

>>4751973
this gets me too

Being motivated from sheer fucking annoyance can work wonders, if anyone wants a big folder of Deus Ex weapon and item sounds, well.

here you go.

https://my.mixtape.moe/kpdhzs.zip

Anyone know where i can get a hold of the first track on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFCnme6yWGY [Embed]

I downloaded the "NowThatsWhatICallMidi" wad but it sounds completely different.

>>4752030
by request I also ripped a bunch of grunts, yells, screams, and footstep sounds.

https://my.mixtape.moe/lzqpkd.zip

>tfw making enemies check if they should explode from proximity to SSG blast is more efficient than making the puffs choose, as would be logical
Fug. I was wondering why the SSG was stuttering so badly in that fuckin video. God damned SSG puffs were doing up to 4 distance checks *each* per puff. At least it's probably less shit now, if slightly jankier.

>>4751265
Outside of the OST it kinda sucks
I also hate how the only source port is also of poor quality, so that never helped my view of it

>>4752062
HUP

>>4752115
Aaagh

>>4752108
The fact that every Build engine game has a specific source port and not all of them in a single source port really rustles me.

>>4752115
HUUH

>>4752140
I think it's because they all kind of do something different enough that it ends up bothersome if you don't.

In my ongoing journey to balance out the Overkill in Russian Overkill, I have combined Legendoom Lite, Colorful Hell, and the all-new "Champions!" by Mikk. (great mod, check it out)
The result is, uh... colorful?

>>4752158
>Champions!
Now that's fucking cool. Wish to see more universal modifiers like this. Will check out.

>>4752158
Champions mixes nicely with mods like GMOTA too. But avoid mixing it with mods that have real complicated enemy switch-ups, like Quake-Style Unbound, and really badly coded garbage like Brutal Doom. BD apparently gives the player monster tags, and your variant keeps shifting, so you'll randomly be teleporting or shooting fireballs out of your ass, or phasing through attacks - and enemies do the same since they keep changing their variant too.

>>4752259
>BD apparently gives the player monster tags

>>4752259
Remember that he's paid $482 a month for bullshit like that.
This combination of mods has just become pure sensory overload. I feel like Legendoom and Colorful Hell are making things EASIER due to the drops.

>>4752279
Here's all the weapons I have by Map02 of Doom 2, with Maps of Chaos. It's a good thing I have the weapon menu mod, selecting what I actually want to use would be a nightmare.

Good god.
Champions! modifiers apply to the Warpocalypse.
And I have three warpocalypse remotes.

>>4752293
IT GETS BETTER.
The top-half of that Warpocalypse had the modifier that allows it to resurrect on death if you don't gib it. So... when I returned it, it returned the bottom half but left the top half. So now I just have a disembodied tank turret. It can't fire normally and won't dispense health, but the tertiary turret is still firing.

>>4752140
They're too different, it could be feasible with a massive amount of work but it's nowhere near as simple as adding Heretic/Hexen support to Doom. Both SW and Blood use completely different internal mechanics to Duke when it comes to level design and monster AI.

Redneck Rampage is actually a lot more feasible in that regard since it's based on top of Duke3D rather than the base build engine - even the palette is the same.

>>4752062
>>4752030
Thanks, now I can do this in Doom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sty73gVmhDE&t=71s

I died a second after taking this pic. Legendary Pinkie with the white champion effect that makes him phase in and out and thus be able to avoid attacks while phased out, when the opponent is already only damageable when its randomly electrified or attacking. I think he basically outran me in speed and nothing I had was doing all that much to him.

>>4750506
COMMENTS ABOUT BLOOD, TAKEN FROM /v/:

>The difficulties are literally broken in dosbox. The middle difficulty for instance is actually the hardest. It's fucking bullshit
>Difficulty is supposedly glitched in blood. Once you load a save, the monsters do a lot of damage in the lowest difficulty and little damage on extra crispy (or something like that). Starting a new level (or a new game) fixes the problem, but only until you load another save. The only difficulty level that works correctly is the third one.

ARE THESE TRUE?

>>4752335
>photographs taken seconds before disaster

>>4752340
Yes. BloodGDX, the most accurate "source"port (the actual source code hasn't been released, it's just a good reverse-engineer job), fixes that bug though.

>>4752335
Also I should've figured PB and Mark's Extermination Day wouldn't play nicely with this. Even the barrels are randomly champions.

>>4752340
If this is true than it explains at least a little why I suck so much at Blood. I thought I was just bad.

in the new version of gzdoom i notice these white pixels appear on the edges of the sectors whenever i move is this only happening to me

>>4752352
I just hate the GL rendering, it just fucks with Blood's atmosphere so much.

>>4752359
This image is fucking perfect, it just sums up BD's coding so well if only it didn't need additional context to make sense of it.

>>4752391
>A mod that completely changes how Doom works doesn't work well with another mod that completely changes how Doom works

>>4752359
...why is the toilet the same color as doomguy?

>>4752340
The middle difficulty is actually fine, so the second greentext is correct.

>>4752401
No way to politely ask this: are you colorblind, anon?

>>4752397
I don't know of a mod capable of overwriting explosive barrels with living actors.

>>4752416
Do you... want one?

>>4752416
Run For It

>>4752425
hand over that toxic waste BB

>>4752429
have a sad cum BB.

>>4752435
comfy

>>4752429
I was thinking something... bonier
https://mega.nz/#!jlVkiJAQ!YrGur4VaEIMMIQLULybqqHQ4o6zcyZ15yS4fc2lr0mw
DISCLAIMER: I am very tired and made this in less than 15 minutes.

>>4752442

>>4752414
Yes. They both look yellow-green. The toilet is still weird though since it's definitely not white.

>>4752442
What in the ever-loving fuck is this?

>>4752437

>>4752438
my bony

>>4752457
yo oi yo
amnesia

Is this shadow mapping? I need maps that do shadow mapping justice.

>>4752391
You think that's bad, these barrels started teleporting and slapping eachother.

And then blew up with the force of a thermonuclear bomb because Mark decided it was a good idea that bunched-up barrels make stronger and larger explosions.

>>4752352
Doesn't BloodGDX cause problems with the Death Wish mod though?

>>4752450
Aha. Well, the toilet is a darker lime green while Doomguy is a shade of gold.

>>4752397
The Champions mod is meant to be compatible with anything. And it is. It doesn't completely change how the game works, it doesn't even edit monsters (in terms of code), that's the point. It's like legendoom lite in that respect. Go away, Mark.

>>4752451
Everything and nothing.

>>4752509
>those three tiny revenants

it's like discovering fire

>>4752517
>>4752519
New to doom modding?

>>4752517
>>4752519
what, did you make a BFG pistol?

amazing
but how do i make it look this good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-xDWdU7GQ

>>4752529
That's what I thought, at first I thought you were just fucking around with modding but you're playing with the lighting stuff.
It's really cool.

>>4752530
does GZDoom g3.3.2 bumpmapping as seen here?
amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOfw6HNcmj8

>>4752529
Okay that's dope as shit.

Also of note: spotlights need to be stacked on top of eachother (in z-level increments of 32) to look like a vertical light rather than a literal spotlight.

>>4752469
Is that a Legendary barrel?

>>4752581
nah, wasn't running legendoom, just champions with brutal

>>4752582
Oh right, Brutal leaves those teleportation circles, forgot about that.

>>4752052
He's using a custom soundfont, that's why it sounds different.

>>4751859
Tie between Blazko/Duke, BJ is chaigun central, who just grinds through everything with exactly one gun, plus Holy Lance is probably the coolest BFG gun, and Duke has flexible arsenal without major weaknesses.

It's nearly screenshot saturday. How do these switches look?

>>4752665
> nearly screenshot saturday
It is already

>>4752670
well where's the guy who does the post

Am I the only one here who really likes Wolf 3D aesthetic? The semi-cartoony artstyle and bright coloured enemies and maps.
Just makes it so fun to play. At least for me

>>4751215
Also, the feature of that mod is very reminiscent of the "Elite" zombie system from that Flash game SAS Zombie Assault 4 (which makes re rather question the name of the mod itself, since there's "Quake Champions", and seeing the said "champions" as numerous as the common vanilla enemies as well)

Having a hard time deciding which look to go with. Also this is supposed to be lava, not burning cobblestone. I'm thinking, maybe the top third.

>>4752665
Looks fine. The reds look a bit faint, but that might just be me. I like my reds deep. Should put them on a wall texture to get a better idea.

>>4752681
They all look real good. Keep in mind the doom palette is going to eat a lot of the detail, so why not chuck them into slade and see how they look?

>>4752681
Bottom row looks good to me, has more colour.

Is "Fistful of Doom" the only western-styled WAD or there's something else?

>>4752697
nice meme

>>4752685
Well, first version will be truecolor, for GZDoom stuff. Vanilla compatibility will come after that. It'll sure be fun making 64px versions of all my 128px floors. Not really looking forward to that to be honest.

>>4752697
Probably due for an update.

Do you reckon this would cause motion sickness in players?

https://my.mixtape.moe/zeinah.m4v

>>4752752
I instantly wanted it to stop, so yes

>>4752681
They're all good, actually.

I like bottom right as it's the most "realistic" for how lava can look IRL, but the top ones are brighter and would add a better colour contrast in the map and nobody has ever written off a level for the lava not being realistic anyway.

Especially since IRL being anywhere near lava would cause you to burst into flames.

>>4752752
Save for tech demo purposes and to give to VR headset users.

>>4752698
Just randomly found it on the internet
Decided to post it here

How can you have a switch that is in a 3d sector above the player, that the player can't activate unless they're actually where that switch is?

Reason I ask is I think there is a bug where because the switch is on a "line", the player can be on the floor below the switch and still activate it .

>>4752773
I think you can do a check for the player's position in ACS.

>>4752779
>ACS

I'm going to have to be asking for so much help with that from people here when I make my map, at this rate I'd be including a whole section of the level thanking /vr/.

I've noticed over the years here that there are some posters that just "get it" when it comes to ACS. I had one issue I thought wasn't even possible, get spat out to me in about 10 minutes in a demo level by a random anon here. Just amazing stuff.

It's why I always try and help people here when I can, you get so many favours you want to give others a reason to come here.

So I'm currently playing Doom Incarnate.
All I can say is...how did Icarus say that it makes everything too easy?
Sure you get new weapons quickly but you get more damage than usual.
It balances things out.

>>4752807
If ICARUS himself, the guy that constantly complains about things being too hard and /doom/ makes fun of him for it, says it's easy, then the problem might be you?

>>4752813
I've played it on medium high. The creator of the mod said you get more damage than usual.
I guess Icarus played it on medium difficulty.

>>4752807
Maybe he plays on an easier difficulty.

>>4752851
>>4752852
Actually /doom/ mocks him because he always plays on uv or whatever uv-equivalent the mod has and then complain that it is too hard instead of turning down the difficulty.

>>4752672
I really like and prefer the Jaguar port but I think I'm the only one as most conversions try to mimic that Mac/3DO versions

I mean the higher res textures and sprites with the modified doom weapon sprites is a great look.

>>4752857
>implying custom wads and gameplay mods aren't balanced around UV

>>4751265
It has some nice high resolution gaphics, but the game sucks overall.

>>4752857
I used to only ever play on UV, after an injury to my arm it's now a HMP start.

Who the hell even plays on anything lower than that I don't know. The level I'm planning only has HMP and UV starts but I'd have to make it clear that UV is intended for those who already played on HMP, if you play a level again I think you want it significantly different, not just a few more barons and cacos.

Hey, question.
Is there any limit to how many monsters Icon of Sin/monster spawner can spawn at once? Is it number of spawn spots or some hardcoded value, or it will just spawn them forever?

Can you make a monster that hates absolutely everything (even others of it's own kind) and attacks monsters and players alike?

>>4752697
>[NO]

>>4752873
First things first. What would the monster's name be?

Still Speaking of Samsara who is your least favourite, not because the character sucks but the one you had least fun with it than the others(addons included) and who would you like to see in the cast?

>>4752881
Mad bastards.

Nah it was just an imp variant, not sure yet.

>>4752887
Favourite was Duke for the flavour comments he'd give. Even sent Term a message saying how much fun I had with it.

I was playing for so long one day I went to get something to eat and left the game open, came back and Duke's like "you're pissing me off" and on reflex I'm like "we've been here all day, fuckin' hungry man" before realizing it's a vidya.

Don't know who I'd add really, maybe another character he's already made in one of his other mods. If he wants to add a girl he could add the character from the upcoming game "Ion Maiden" perhaps.

>>4752864
> after an injury to my arm it's now a HMP start.
You almost cracked the code. Lower levels are for people who are disabled, children, or - back in 1993 - didn't own a mouse.

>>4752873
Could make a monster with the +QUICKTORETALIATE and +FORCEINFIGHTING flags - might work?

Here's version 1.1 of Champions!

Fixes a handful of weird glitches and shit - mostly caused by brutal dewm

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ylkrq9MUYsVzOaRv0m-Z3ouX_M8QRE4R/view

>>4752887
>tfw fps games had always cool characters and a lot of other cool stuff, for potential over crossovers and celebrations around these games
>may never actually happen for a lot of reasons, like how western game companies handle crossovers compared to japanese ones
Good thing this genre is even associated with modding at all, so stuff like Samsara exists
I'm still amazed how poorly presented was BJ, Doomguy and Ranger being in Quake Champions together, because they might as well blew a shot at what could have been consired an historical moment in video games history

with the rpg id games being "playable" on pc, has anyone tried to rip stuff out of it?
because so far, there's only two guys at doomworld who managed to do it, but they haven't done anything since, as they're now busy with one or two other projects at the same time

Not quite a screenshot, but here is a thing I finished!

https://streamable.com/7aii3

>>4752934
Nice
I'm clueless about her and her mod, so is she supposed to have any relation to Malcolm from TrailBlazer?

>>4752938
Not at all (I guess other than the fact I voice Malcolm and he has an eyepatch?!)

It's currently more connected to WildWeasel's Diaz series of mods, but I don't know if that will stay after the next update.

>>4752934
Nice, I like the kickback stuff as the map I'm working on has death pits in one section and I'd like for players to be able to toss monsters into them rather than just avoid them themselves.

>>4752918
Not only that but the same probably goes for Doomguy's face in HD for the first official time.
QC feels like a weird mix of ideas, it even wastes certain milestones that could have been saved for better games.

>>4751794
kinda would like to see what kind of addons someone would have add for meta doom, if they manage to understand how the mod handles its inclusion of doom related content

meant to finish this years ago (like, 2015) and haven't touched it in ages, added an end to map04
uploading it to newstuff soon, but I kinda want some feedback first
https://my.mixtape.moe/bbbryu.zip (note: apparently malwarebytes hates my.mixtape.moe right now)

kinda only actually did testing on HMP, although there's more enemies on UV

>>4752998
I'll try this out tonight, so come back in a while and I'll have a reply.

test

>>4752958
One thing I don't understand of QC is why everyone got a trailer except Doomguy aka the most popular and iconic of the game.
Plus the grim dark tone of the game and comics but then you see the trailers that supposed to sell the game that go too much in contrast.
Hope it ends well when it's finally complete.

>>4753048
Might be because the game is still being developed at best or suffering through an identity crysis at worst
Sometimes i do wonder about how much the general audience even cares about Doom, that a lot of people simply describing Doom as "guns and demons" makes it that not a lot of it isn't that iconic or big of a deal, as if it only existed to inspire a genre and not that there actual good game design in it
Same probably goes for "Doom is sp, Quake is mp" otherwise, a lot of people who have raised eyebrows over Quad Damage showing up in a Doom game
May or may not be tied to "that one mod" being so popular, it might as well have a chance to show up in Conan O'Brian's Clueless Gamer show but i'm probably going too far with this bullshit

>>4752870
It'll just keep spawning them.

If monsters aren't alert, and they all just stand there, the monsters that stand in place will get telefragged and replaced with the new ones, but as soon as they all wake up and start moving, you're more or less looking at an endless supply of monsters until you end the level.
GZDoom has an option you can toggle that makes the Icon Of Sin kill all of his spawns when he dies, if you think that would be a cool feature.

>>4753024
gotcha, thanks!

>>4750909
that gun aiming system feels like it should be used on Wii (or Switch)

>MFW I see people who want Doom 64 on Nintendo Switch Eshop
Do they know that you can still play it on PC and you have two excellent and simple ways to do so?

>>4753096
>inb4 it's about whether or not they want Doomguy in Smash
Don't forget the reason why D64 is barely mentioned outside official twitter accounts is because the game might as well be in some weird ass trademark limbo or something.
But i guess that might still be less bad than some shitty BFG edition port with that terrible sound pitch thing going on.

So I combined Colorful Hell, LegenDoomLite, Champions, and Demon Counterstrike. Absolutely fucking impeccable. Now I just need to throw in a good weaponset that feels arcadelike. Too bad there isn't a weapons only pack for Bulleteye...

>>4753102
You know how Snake stuck out in Brawl?
...and you know how Bayonetta stuck out EVEN WORSE in Smash 4?

Someone as violent as Doomguy would shatter the "I do not mesh with the rest of this roster" scale.
Smash Bros. is utter trash now, anyways.

>>4753102
I'm one of those who would like to see him in Smash but I think that for the whole trademark limbo thing it's better playing it on PC instead.
There wasn't even a slight reference in QC of Doom 64.

>>4753114
>You know how Snake stuck out in Brawl?
And people loved him and were angry when he didn't come back. And Bayonetta was voted in so that's even more support for a character that "stuck out".

Doot!
https://twitter.com/nichegamer/status/992593365794545664

>>4753121
Which is weird, because you know, they own these series, yet can't go any farther than the four main games, specially when 64 is treated as "the real Doom 3"
Bethesda has the guts to screw over some studio over Prey 2, to cancel the game and scoop up their IP, then give its name to another studio so they just get a name for their own new IP, yet id somehow isn't allowed to add a single reference to Doom 64 or even the Quake expansions that sort of realized some of the main game's concepts and are currently the closest things to actual Q1 sequels

>>4753114
>Someone as violent as Doomguy would shatter the "I do not mesh with the rest of this roster" scale.
People said the exact same thing about Bayo. Snake is a far more serious character than Doomguy anyhow.

>>4753123
...and then everyone immediately hated her for being OP as fuck, and I had a small chuckle at them getting fucked by their mistake.
okay can we stop now this isn't a smash thread

>>4753114
Found the meleefag.

reminder that this happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

>>4753141
Oh god I remember when that one came out. Worst birthday present ever.

>>4753141
I would rather forget thanks.
Between the video and the comments I don't know which one is worse

>>4753137
That has nothing to do with the point at hand, which is a character fitting in on itself, not the gameplay balance. It's like saying meta knight doesn't fit in Smash because he was top tier in brawl. Bayo got nerfed hard anyways and became another meme character like Little mac who gets picked mostly by people who don't know how to use her, now ZSS and Cloud are the ones winning tournaments.

>>4753125
>not just linking the original tweet in the first place

>>4753141
>giving this garbage views

We really are being invaded.

>>4753152
I refuse to continue this discussion.

This is your fault, >>4753102.

>>4753153
>>giving this garbage views
Any sane human being has adblocking software. Also good lord are you seriously worried that a video with 12 million views might get a couple more (if those adblock-less people exist)?

>>4753158
We had people melting down over someone's twitter bio a few threads ago, you're one to talk about sanity.

>>4753161
Sounds like average human beings to me, judging by humanity's constant history of overreacting towards everything, be it burning someone who they think is a witch or giving 50 million retweets to a picture of a popular rapper picking his nose.

>>4753131
The part that is really weird about QC is that it has a more Q1 aesthetic and yet it denies the existence of the expansion packs.
It wants to represent some more Strogg by adding a veteran, Keel, and a character simply called Strogg but in terms of personality it looks like they came out from Borderlands.
How about Bitterman? Kane?Or a new guest star?The potential is huge.

>>4752887
Security Officer. Probably because I don't like Marathon.

Don't get me wrong, it's a quality game and I heard the story is phenomenal. I just can't play it, or the Samsara character, because everything feels so, so fucking floaty. The sound design is so flat and wet, half of them sound like someone knocking on a goddamn wood table or clicking a joystick. It's just not fun at all to play.

I haven't played the extra heroes addon yet but it does include Powerslave dude which was who I really wanted to see because of the really fun weapons. I'll play it later to see how it feels.

>>4753125
You're late. this was already posted

>>4753174
And with Tim Willits and Bethesda's history of being bad at lore, i can't even tell if it's even intentional or not

>>4753189
Once again how hard can it be to handle the lore of these games? They're far from complex and pretty clear.
Blazko I can understand. He's from a different time period but not the rest.
That's a shame because I really like the redesigns in this game.
Especially Sorlag, Ranger and Keel.
I still have faith.

>lore talk

Actually, I did like how Doom 2016's lore with basically a literary handwave makes almost every single WAD cannon by implying Doomguy has been fighting hell all across different dimensions and realities.

>>4753215
>I did like how Doom 2016's lore with basically a literary handwave makes almost every single WAD cannon
Why did people make up such a retarded theory? That's one of the most desperate straw grasps I've ever seen.

>>4753213
>>4753189
>>4753174
I thought Quake3 already had lore, an alien race collects fighters from across time and space and has them fight in the arena eternal for their entertainment.

>>4753215
>>4753220
I'm oretty sure the context should be ambiguos enough to tell about what areas, monsters and more exist and happened in Doomguy's journey, rather than "Simspons Doom is now canon"

>>4753215
And yet there are still people who still don't want them to be the same guy.
Because it contradicts the lore according to them.
If B. J. can go into a coma for 15 years without losing an inch of muscles so can the original Doomguy becoming the DoomSlayer.

>>4753229
Terrywads are now canon.

>>4753232
I'm also surprised nobody applies >>4753215 to the Ranger, considering he also spent an eternity fighting monsters
Specially when Quake had inspiration from Lovecraft, who had this idea of "shapelessnes" meaning he may have seen more than Doomguy did

>>4753229
>>4753220
>>4753232
Well I did say almost, Terrywads being canon, stuff that.
Also it's much better Doomguy remains this unknown everyman who never speaks and who the player can imagine as even themselves, rather than as a fucking continuation of B.J's legacy. Fuck off Tom Hall.

This is almost as lame as people who want Gordon Freeman to speak in a half life sequel.

If Gearbox asked Bethesda to put Duke in QC, would you be okay with that?

>>4753251
That would be pretty cool, he'd fit I think.

>>4753251
>"I AINT AFRAID OF NO QUAKE"

>>4753251
It would still mean that Gearbox would still own Duke.

>>4753215
Did any wad actually take advantage of that?

>>4753229
It makes it way too ambiguous. There has to be a way that they can make it clear which is canon or not.
Maybe they colud've made some DLCs called "the tales of the Slayer" or something. Where they let you play the events happened before the game.
But no, muh multiplayer.

>>4753245
>rather than as a fucking continuation of B.J's legacy
To be fair, which other dev decided to make two or three protagonists from their different series related?
I can't think of any other dev that did this.

>>4753292
Because it sounds stupid and lame, but Bungie did it quite well in that their games have a mythos of sorts. Pathways into Darkness has a small connection to Marathon, which has a connection to Halo.

But it's done in a "hinting at", "maybe" kind of way which is the best way to do it. Then fuckheads come along and demand it all be laid out in black and white for their tiny brains to grasp because they hate mystery.

They're the same sorts who want master chief to reveal his face.

>>4753292
In fact, I don't see anything wrong with that.
The idea of Doomguy killing the enemies that his ancestor killed in hell, it's great.
Plus robot nazis and demons existing in the same universe. How cool is that?

>>4753304
I think BJ having a connection with Doomguy should be the farest we can ever reach to Doomguy's identity, before we actually reach something like his actual name, location etc.

is nuwolf's story supposed to take after RTCW and wolf 2009? because Caroline Becker was in 2009, and that's a straight up continuation of RTCW.

>>4753304
Nazis are an actual part of history, so comparing them to demons is stupid to begin with. Also "nazi [x]" is the most creatively dead thing anybody can come up with after "zombie [x]". The kinds of people who unironically enjoy this probably live in trailers and subsist on mountain dew. Usually defending their sub-pleb tastes with watery allegations of prejudice instead of admitting their taste in fiction is the equivalent of eating baked beans every day.

>>4753313
I bet you are not a fan of the direction of a certain Call of Duty game type in recent years.

>>4753313
I could accept that some of the more insane higher-ups if the nazis turned INTO demons and maybe formed some kind of nazi-themed demonic army. That would be a somewhat interesting concept so long as it was clear they were demons with a bit of nazi, not nazis with a bit of demon.

>>4753313
>The kinds of people who unironically enjoy this probably live in trailers and subsist on mountain dew. Usually defending their sub-pleb tastes with watery allegations of prejudice instead of admitting their taste in fiction is the equivalent of eating baked beans every day.
Holy shit they're nazis. They're mostly used as evil regime trope. Why you have to be so mad?

>>4753324
Because he can't afford baked beans.

>>4753324
Because it's as creatively bankrupt a concept as shooting jihadis was a few years after 9/11.

>>4752887
Ranger, I never found Quake arsenal to be any good because of how boringly utilitarian it is.
>addons included
Can any of them even work with last version of Samsara? Honestly almost all of those characters were complete shit when it came to gameplay, either overall balance of the arsenal was bad and you would end up using exactly one gun, strange weapon progression or weapons simply not giving enough ammo was also a thing, I remember playing as the Corridor 7 dude, and not only his main weapon was a chainsaw replacement, he would run out of ammunition constantly even on some of the most ammo bloated maps.

>>4753329
It was totally unnecessary reacting like that. Some people like it, some people don't.
By that logic thousands of concepts became boring because they became overused.
At least Wolfenstein puts a different twist on the formula.

>>4753339
Firstly, you're not even talking to the same guy.
Secondly, your tone-policing is pathetic.
Thirdly, people are allowed to have an express opinions and if you don't like it you can leave.

>>4753313
Wow! You are superfast at being mad!

>>4753185
Those dual shotguns were the shit though.

>>4753316
I only ever played CoD 1 but I liked it, I can see why Infinity Ward were so desperate to bring the game into a modern setting and they had to argue very hard for that because publishers wanted to stick with WW2.
You had talented guys who were just bored to tears with being asked to feed Nazi shooters to brainlets and surprise surprise the modern warfare era was a smash hit because whether the market knew it or not, there was a huge demand for something new.

>>4753324
Because as the other guy said, they're creatively bankrupt. There were shitloads of terrible mobs in history but because as creators we have to cater to the largest market, which sadly is also the most historically ignorant market....the American market.

Their knowledge of history is entirely this:
>ancient times, swords n' shields
>leonardo davinci, funny hats
>slavery happened
>nazis!
>cold war
>i think I remember bill clinton on tv
>obama president
>now

What about Imperial Japanese, Soviet Union, Khemer Rogue or even something entirely fictional. No, no....let's go with Nazis for the millionth time or idiots run away and can't relate to it.

>>4753346
I was mainly referring about the nazi zombie game type of the last few years

>>4753346
It's Wolfenstein, so it has to be nazis, no matter how cliche it seems
That's like getting mad that Ninja Gaiden is about ninjas

>>4753340
I won't leave I like to discuss about certain topics in games. Just don't get angry about it.

>>4753346
>>4753329
The New Colossus may of not been a great game due to taking steps back from its predecessor, but really, the problem was the really awkward marketing that tried to promote killing Nazis like a political statement. Otherwise you're kind of overreacting, it's Wolf's thing to fight Nazis and if you're expecting anything else then I really don't know what to tell you. Most other games abandoned WWII nowadays besides CoD's brief return to it.

>>4753317
No, that sounds boring and lame too since it's already been done and says to me people are thinking "ok we need to make the nazis even more evil!". It's at the point where it's fucking ridiculous and I just have to laugh at how fucking goofy it is, it's closer to saturday morning cartoon nonsense than "oh yeah these guys existed".

If that's what you want then ok, we can play it and have a great time but this isn't breaking a single inch of new ground. If you weren't interested in that anyway then all the better.

>>4753351
Agreed, Wolf is always Nazis (with a hint of spooky) and it'll be fucking dumb when it says it's anything else.

>>4753346
It's an overused concept? Yes.
But there hundreds of games that have been doing the concepts you mentioned just not in Fps games.

>>4753354
>missed the point of the entire post
It's literally a game about one really actually evil prick turning into a demon then extending his internal masturbation about the nazi party into a demonic apocalypse by forcing a bunch of unintelligent demons to LARP as nazis for his amusement and ego gratification. The demons are just doing it because he's allowing them to kill humans and functioning as a commander, they don't give a rat's ass about his idology. You quite literally took the entire concept in the exact opposite direction that I described.

>>4753353
Trusted friends have told me the new Wolf's gameplay was pretty rock on, looking at footage I would agree but yes they marketed it like morons which unfortunately cost them a lot.

To add to that, don't hire marketing agencies if they know much about your product (eg: they aren't gamers) or they're desperate for money as they'll do dumb risky things with your brand. Trying to imply that the current political climate in the USA was like Nazis because of Trump was a stupid move, their defending of it and implying whites are Nazis was an even dumber move and they defended this dumb move all the way up until their sales figures kicked them in the stomach. It could have been way higher, but they got greedy and moved away from core gameplay.

not retro

>>4753358
Oh I got the point fully, I just think it's really stupid because your idea is as new and original as oatmeal.
Doom 2016 is already implying something similar anyway with Samuel Hayden hinting that the Doomguy shouldn't interfere too much with Argent energy. Same with Olivia Pierce who tried the same thing.

Do you have a twist where the power goes beyond their control and the good guy stops them and we have to learn that racisms bad m'kay? Wow, big twist.

>>4753367
its a discussion on the games plot
no need to tug on the moderators pant leg

>>4753215
I never liked that.

Also, I like Doom 4, but to me it and Doom 64 are their own separate canon from the original games.

>>4753368
Holy fucking shit how triggered are you? It's not a political message you mongoloid, it's just some fag playing dressup with an army.

>>4753373
just report, it's clear he's just trying to start shit.

>>4753367
People recreated elements of Doom 2016 in classic Doom, as well as elements of Wolfenstein: The New Colossus too. Plus they're modern entries in retro series. So fuck right off with attempting to backseat.

>>4753360
IIRC They said they've made it more political because of the current situation.
Seriously imagine being one of the developers at MG and you hope that people could appreciate the game you worked on but because of the writers you get overshadowed by the people who are making political killing nazis.
That sucks.

>>4753372
Doom 3 is more separate since it and it's expansion have fleshed out different dudes.

>>4753373
There it is.
See how I said these people defend their boring tastes with allegations of prejudice? Same thing.
Relax man, I like watching Family Guy. I don't expect every story to be Pride and Prejudice but don't expect me to not pass comment.

>>4753378
You'd be all for it if the situation were reversed. Just sayin.

>>4753375
Point to where this was the intent and not a disagreement of opinion you're having a hard time coming to terms with.

>>4753378
Yes, it does suck because the mechanics are quite cool. This is why marketing departments are almost 90% bullshit, they even take more of the budget.
Good games market themselves by being good. I got New Vegas because I like Fallout games, not because I saw it on the side of a bus.

>>4753381
You've betrayed your own views and intent by implying everybody is the same as yourself. If you want to make games political, don't piss and whine to moderators when you get push back in your arguments. I guess we can add "moral cowardice" alongside "pleb taste".

>>4753384
>>4753378
You can thank Pete Hines for it
I won't be surprised if he was also the one who decided to make multiplayer a focus on the new Doom, despite its problems

>>4753384
>moral cowardice

Remember when you subtly implied that you thought some major members of the doom community weren't human?

>>4753360
It's not just their marketing. They shifted from Nazi exploitation and gore, to blaxploitation and sexploitation. Their target audience isn't even old enough to have seen those genres on film, and they aped those concepts while tossing in modern gaming elements. Theres little of the source material left. The whole design is a focusless clusterfuck.

>>4753381
I'm talking about the ones who made the gameplay who were overshadowed by higher-ups decisions.

>>4753386
No? I do remember saying their taste needed variation if it wanted to be considered decent. If you want to make shit up give me something better than "Nazis bad! Agree or die!".

>>4753387
Totally. When I saw it I thought "do they think their market is coastal boomers or something?" I half expected them to go all the way and have the girl with the afro go "you're under arrest sugar!".

That's exactly when I thought the marketing decisions were made by idiots out of touch and just thinking "oh i bet those millennial whipper-snappers like this!".

>>4753215
>Doom 64
>Doomguy chooses to stay in hell
>Doom 2016
>"He chose the path of perpetual torment"
The 'every wad is canon' idea I can take or leave but Doom 2016 being a sequel to Doom 64 is something I will stand by 100%

>>4753340
>tone-policing
Because when someone disagrees with you but also have to insult you is always good right?

>>4753379
Yeah.
>Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom
>Doom 3, Resurrection Of Evil
>Doom 64, Doom 4
Doom 4 definitely cribs some of the aesthetics from Doom 3 though.

I really don't think Commander Keen or Wolfenstein 3D quite fits the setting of any of these, like the mobile games insist on, I think that's all stupid.

>>4753420
I like the idea of them being descendants but otherwise unrelated, myself.

This image is just bothering me. Isn't Ranger a 6'5" ft and Blazko a 6'3"?
Is he crouching?

c.kid

>>4753426
>pistol ejects rifle cartridge

>>4753420
I think Commander Keen was all part of the kid's immagination.

>>4753435
do not hate c.kid's gun logic

Speaking of Wolfenstein before which one is your favourite WolfenDoom wad?

Stock Image Doom

>>4753459

>>4753447
>Wolfenstein comics coming soon
>One of the characters is literally named Mary Sue
May have read that wrong, though

>>4753435
>implying Doomguy's pistol doesn't chamber .22lr

>>4753459

>>4753475

>>4753475
> bottom left
now imagine all barons had "handsome squidward" face going

>>4753474
That's way too big to be .22LR, those cartridges are tiny.

Speaking of which, has anyone actually put a .22LR gun in Doom?
I think Shut Up And Bleed had one, but anything else?

One thing is whether or not Nintendo themselves would mind if if brought up D64 related stuff, but would anyone at Sony or even Sega flip if they brought up the nightmare spectres?
I also wondered if this was even about licensing and not just streamlining references for newcomers to these series, otherwise we could have even had a reference to the mobile id games or something obscure certain fans would get
Kind of a missed oppurtunity that the HWP could have been added as a weapon to fuck up demon rune using players in the multiplayer, but whatever

>>4753479
>that awesome/epic face/smile meme