/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4723864
What about for emulating Atari 400/800? Altirra again I'd guess, right?

>>4723864
On topic.
Interesting video that debunks the myth of E.T causing the video game crash,and coming from veteran speaker.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDKXAbjJerM

Been playing some H.E.R.O. recently. This is such a legit game. Very advanced compared to the field of other 2600 games.

I like Mountain King, particularly the 5200 version since it's got the funny dance at the beginning, but i've never had a successful run.

For me, it's Star Raiders, followed by Miner 2049er and Moon Patrol.

>>4723986
Looks like OP isn't here - I'd recommend Altira for 400/800

>>4724009
>H.E.R.O.
Never played it, looks fun from the videos I've seen

>>4724259
Thought so; thanks anon.

I've been playing Yars' Revenge lately, super popular but insanely fun

>>4724379
>but

You mean to tell me that a popular game makes the entertainment value of the game drop? What is your logic?

>>4724443
Worded that wrong, meant and instead of but
Sorry, insanely tired

>>4724574
More like insanely tryhard.

>>4724379
This is my favorite by far, Demon Attack and Haunted House are lagging behind tied for second I think. Demon Attack is the best first Atari game for somebody to try.

>>4724616
great contribution g/j

>>4724717
>great contribution g/j
>obsessed with "le ebip board kultuure"
The irony.

Bumping

>>4724709
>no alternate reality
>no fractalus/koronis rift

>>4723864
Weird that the best 5200 emulator is on the virtualdub website.

Keystone, H.E.R.O. and Plaque Attack are the absolute tightest. Will always go back for a round with those.

And Pitfall of course, but that goes without saying.

Was Dragonstomper 2600? That was beyond its time.

>>4725592
OP here - there’s other sites to get Altirra on but Virtualdub is the easiest.

Not enough respect for Beamrider in this thread. 2600 port isn't the best but I was impressed by what it accomplished in the hardware, very fun and playable these days.

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Got a whole bunch of atari ST-related stuff some times ago. a 520ST+, 2 monitors, an external drive, a bag full of floppies, magazines, books and a printer (NEC pinwriter). I think I'm gonna need to realign the drive's heads though (I have an oscilloscope so I think I should be able to do it).

>>4726071
Nice, any pictures?

>>4724717
Haunted House is my game atm.
Only shitty part is that the layout of items is pretty limited.

Who here has hallucinated while playing Kaboom?

It's the videogame equivalent of an Indian sweat lodge.

>>4726206
Not yet.
Also I forgot to mention the megafile 30 that was among the lot, and the color/monochrome monitor switch. Fun thing is that the owner of all these goods had MSX-related magazines too.

Bump

>be Infogrames marketer
>"we need to hype the Atari brand name so we can sell more preorders of our shitty linux box"
>"what's our budget?"
>...
>makes a thread on /vr/

>>4724379
I had a lot of fun with this game as a kid, even when Nintendo first came out, and Atari became retarded, this was one game I could come back to.

Using Altirra x64. If I just wanna load up a game and use kb+gamepad and just play, how do I get that set up? The UI isn't so intuitive, apparently.

This game gave me and my buddies hours of fun competing.

>>4729545
This is obviously not a 2600 game.

>>4730492
Ya figger? Gee. I though the 2600 was the only thing Atari ever made.

Has anyone ever made a Bomberman clone for the 2600? Seems like itd be a good fit

>>4730983
It's been done but not well. If you're OK with movement not being perfectly smooth it could be done pretty well. But that triggers some peoples tism and is also much harder than just limiting it to two sprites.

>>4730492
>>4730827
I think he’s saying this is not an Atari game on Atari hardware, at all. Probably MSX or colecovision.

>>4730492
>>4730827
THIS is probably what he meant to post. God Atari was such garbage!

>>4731132
I don’t consider it garbage - they had software limitations and adapted to them. Anybody who played them back then (most who did at least) absolutely loved the games.

>>4729545
That’s a 5200 game, not 2600

>>4729545
That’s actually Konami

Frostbite is the best game for the 2600, followed by River Raid.

>>4724709
Nice list. However, it's missing...

Plaque Attack
Gremlins
Crystal Castles
Solar Fox
Taz
Spider Fighter
Phoenix
Jr Pacman
Dragonfire
Cosmic Ark

For me it is always River Raid. As instance of game which has quick learning curve, incrementing difficulty, good sound imitiation of jet engine (accelarate and decellarate included and graphics which is easily to "understant".
Absolute 10/10

Also Skyjinks for comfiness.

>>4724009
>>4724269
It has fixed level designs rather than procedural.

>>4731130
I think neither you or him are thinking. At least not very well.

>>4731132
Doubt it. He'd only need that if this was a 2600 thread, which it's not? Not sure why you're so hung up on the 2600 thing. But I have my suspicions.

>>4723864

>>4732409
RIP Atari's last good idea

>>4732404
>>4732405
>>4732406
>>4732407
>>4732408
>>4732409
How'd you get these?

>>4732418
This guy on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxNknap9uPU

Really the only video on the Atari Panther. The others are just clickbait bullshit.

>>4732419
Great contribution man, thank you

Thoughts on E.T.? Lots of people hate it, but a silent group of people also enjoy it.

>>4733186
It's one of the best games on the system and maybe the most technically advanced, too. The "worst game ever" idiots swallowed a meme just like the guys who think Mario Bros is a bad movie.

It was implicated in that industry crash due to poor business decisions (like producing more carts than there were console owners for some reason), but it had nothing to do with the quality of the game.

"One of the best games on the system" isn't really saying all that much though when the system is the 2600.

>>4733186

overperfect collision detection ruins it, most people got annoyed by falling into the pits over and over again, and since that reduces your life bar that rendered the game pretty much unwinnable for many people until they gave up. It is not a bad game, it sold well and without that annoyance surely a lot less of them would have been returned. If Atari had not completely removed all brakes regarding this cart's production (seriously guys, how about you start slowly with just two mil or so?) so those millions lead to a huge loss and the thing with the pits hadn't been there it would have been a success imho.

It has a coherent gameworld with a clear story and goal, two antagonists, items and several obstacles for challenge. I also like the score system tradeof that you can exchange the game's help getting one of the pieces for a better score, that leads to an interesting situation having to make the decision.
Having the player search several boring pits for randomly placed object is questionable but it still doesn't kill the game- if you don't always fall back in...

Regarding the timespan it was made in it is straight up amazing. The decision of having the player search several identical People how call it the WORST GAEM EVARR!1 likely have never played it, it gets a lot more enjoyable with the pit- issue corrected but is playable even without it as soon as you learned how to control ET to avoind falling back in.

>>4733258
I've never understood the Atari 2600 disrespect/beat down stuff, there were technical limitations back when it was created (1977) and they adapted to those limitations. For the time, it was pretty good.

On the ET side, nearly everybody I've talked to who's *actually* played it enjoyed it. I believe people just hop on the bandwagon that it's a bad game because it was overproduced and shit.

>Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger
>Adventure of Link is the best Zelda game
>ET was the best game on the Atari 2600
I can't even begin to imagine what ridiculous meme /vr/ is going to come up with to top this one.

>>4733340
>Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger
>Adventure of Link is the best Zelda game

But both of these statements are true. Also, FF2 is the best Final Fantasy.

I love the 2600. Even so, E.T. is, well, I mean....you guys have a nice thread.

>>4733317
Yeah, I mean, you said it yourself. It's all relative. It was the best people had at the time and a lot of this shit was revolutionary.
But objectively, it's an extremely primitive system with a lot of extremely primitive games.

It's not disrespect; it's an important system and a really interesting case study. I plan on writing some software for it as a little side project one day. But I'd rather eat glass than play most of the games beyond five minutes, even though I'm aware that of course I'd have felt differently thirty years ago.

>>4733427
Yea - I understand where you’re coming from

I want to play through an Atari 2600 RPG. How long am I looking at and which is the best one?

>>4735330
They take pretty long. If you're worried about time you'd better go with a G&W RPG.

>>4735330
There's only like 3 games that would actually qualify as RPGs on the 2600 so take your pick. That being said, the closest thing to what you're after is probably Dragonstomper.

No awesome 80's game cover art that over-sold what the games looked like?

>>4737025
One of my favorite games on it

A lot of the games on 2600 that I like are ports mostly because they had to change a bunch of shit on for the 2600 version, so there's a reason to play it over the original.
Asteroids has wildly different asteroid movement. Battlezone is absurdly different with two tanks and no terrain, much more about movement and positioning (and it looks great) -- not sure if I like Robot Tank more, I kinda think there's a reason to play both. Space Invaders has co-op play.

as for originals, 90% of what I bother with is Demon Attack

>>4724009
H.E.R.O. is brilliant.
mostly played the SG-1000 version though

>>4737826
Going to play Dragonstomper then, thank you anon.

>>4723864
I need assistance diagnosing my Atari 400 problems. The unit I have was given to my brother because he owns a repair shop. but he couldn't ( or just didn't feel) fix it. The guy basically said just take. He gave it to me because I like more retro stuff anyway.

>the thing looks like it's NEVER been used.
>but it doesnt power on:
the previous owner it would appear, got an aftermarket power brick from Sears.
>comes with Star Raiders
Is there supposed to be an LED that comes on when you power it? Is it possible to not screw the prongs into the TV correctly? anyone got a good pic of what the 2 prongs look like when ideally plugged? any help will be greatly appreciated.

>>4739457

>>4739428
If that doesn't work out then Crypts of Chaos is probably your next best bet.

>>4739446
Bypass the two prongs altogether and get either a composite cable or RCA to coaxial adapter.

>>4739446
>>4739567
Also yes, the little LED inbetween the launch keys on the far right of the keyboard should light up when it's powered on. If it doesn't then look into a new power supply.

Loved this thread. Suprised at all the love for Demon Attack. I always thought Phoenix was better.

Also Planet Patrol is great.

>>4739457
What game is this?

>>4741296
Rescue on Fractalus

>>4738112
I never liked the 2600 Asteroids much, and never got how it has so much love. The crazy teleporting asteroids and the ridiculously low difficulty just kills it for me.

>>4733393
>But only the second statement is true

Fix'd

>>4741625
This.
Isn't there a homebrew version that fixes that?

>>4737868
I love this book. I wish I had known about the poster release before I bought it because while the write ups are interesting in their own right, seeing all that fantastic artwork in high resolution really makes me wish I could frame it on the wall.

>>4741625
2600 Asteroids is one of my favourite games bar none. Yeah it's not as difficult as the real arcade game but I can just put it on, lay back on the couch, and space out for hours. Maybe that makes me a pleb, I don't know.

>>4742748
>foreward by Ernest Cline
Why does this talentless fuck get his name and face plastered on any book or movie that has anything to do with Atari? For the last five years or so you can't mention Atari without some asshole being like "hey get that Ready Player One guy in on this, he's obviously an authority on the matter"

found this in a Restore today in southern Wisconsin, only five bucks and 28 cents. i guess the reasoning behind the low price was because it was missing the RF switchbox to fully test it, luckily i had one at home from my current atari(diff model) and it turned out to work perfect. is any particular part of the deal worth a lot on ebay? i've been experiencing some financial problems lately, so any hidden jems i could sell could help a lot.
oh yeah, should add, this is probably my best personal retro find this year so far.

It’s hard to tell the game titles because the photo is so blurry, but I’m not sure a four switcher is worth as much as either a light or heavy six. Atari really doesn’t auction for much.

>>4743995
yeah, sorry bout that, i used to have an iphone 7 plus, which has a MUCH better camera than my new lg k8, so like i said earlier, i'm kinda on a tight budget rn so i had to sell the old phone for bills and am stuck with a cheapo one FN.
i'll see if i can type out a list of the games in the next post here

>>4744027
I mean, it would help if you uploaded it in some sort of reasonable resolution.

>>4743908
>>4744027

Vertical right side list of games:
1. Defender
2.Armour ambush
3.Chopper Commando
4.Frogger(og label tore off)
5.Solar Fox
6.Video Pinball
7.Astroblast
8.Combat
9.Warlords
10.Pac-Man
11.Atlantis
12.Phoenix
13. Star Voyager
14.Lowrey Genious Musical Games

>>4744032
>>4743995
>>4743908
Horizontal bottom list of games:
1.Demon Attack
2.Star Raiders
3.Bowling
4.Target fun
5.Space Invaders
6.Moon Patrol
7.Coleco Donkey Kong
8. Sky Diver
9.Adventures of Tron
10.Activision Boxing
11.Missile Command
12.Video Olympics
13. Yar's Revenge
14. Asteroids
15.Gopher
16.Breakout
17.Swordquest Fireworld
18. Bezerk

>>4743908
Man here in my country atari stuff is expensive for some reason, they usually ask 10 buck for cartridge

Also had these carts since my hs days(somewhere circa around late naughts/early tens).

Also found this guy for like 7 bucks or so in a goodwill sometime in 2013 i believe.

>>4744072
Forgot pic

>>4744079
I fucking love that setup

>>4744190
normally there'd be a VCR under the six switcher atari, but i had to use it as makeshift modulator for the other one since someone robbed this old curbside big screen tubey of his tuner.

Also forgot about this red fonted end label centipede cartridge that came with the bundle

I briefly contemplated getting my Atari 2600 updated to S-Video but I realized there are no good games for it.

Emergency bump

>>4739594
TY >>4739567
this is help.
I will maybe update in coming months.

>>4744217
Clean your room piggu.

>>4745480
Thank you for saving it, appreciate it

>>4733258
>a meme just like the guys who think Mario Bros is a bad movie.
Super Mario Bros. is a bad movie. But it's so-bad-it's-good, and the setting is cool as fuck.
the only intolerably awful bit has to be Luigi's actor, he's so bad that he's shit, good christ

>and maybe the most technically advanced, too.
nah, that's wrong too
there's loads more on the machine that really pushes the hardware in interesting ways
it's got a fairly large scope for a 2600 game, but that's it

>>4723864
Whats everyone's favorite 1st person space shooter? I feel like they offer some of the most interesting gameplay on the system.

1st person tank games are welcome too, as are 3rd person space shooters are welcome too, as long as the field of view is from behind your ship like in Solaris

I have two questions.

1) I always wanted to try Atari classics, but this console didn't arrive at my country (the very first were NES knockoffs) so I knew about Atari many years later, so this wasn't my childhood and I can't use nostalgia googles to enjoy the games because of the very dated graphics and controls. So my question is, are there remakes for the Atari classic games I can play? Throw everything you got at me.

2) For preservation and historic value, what is the best Atari Collection out there and for which console? I saw there are many but what if those mane you recommend the most?

>>4748792
>so this wasn't my childhood and I can't use nostalgia googles to enjoy the games because of the very dated graphics and controls
well, neither can I

just try a user friendly game like demon attack

>what is the best Atari Collection out there
they all have a lot of great arcade games but don't usually have the best selection of 2600 games

>>4748638
see >>4725968 and >>4738129

>>4748638
I prefer Starmaster myself

>>4748943
>just try a user friendly game like demon attack
OK will try
>they all have a lot of great arcade games but don't usually have the best selection of 2600 games
But what collection is the most complete one, so I can search for it?

i got the atari video showcasing that find i made last week done
i just gotta do some editing and it should be ready to upload to youtube.

>>4750607
>>4750607
>But what collection is the most complete one, so I can search for it?
Are you talking emulator wise, or vintage Atari?

>>4751392
I'm asking about the collection where I can play the most atari games with just buying one software.

You know, like the Taito Collection on PS2, Genesis Collection on PS3 or Capcom Classic Arcade Collection, etc

Maybe the most accurate emulation wise would be cool. But this is optional because I'm looking for the collection who have the most games.

>>4748638
I like Star Voyager. It's not the best by a long shot. It's way simple when compared to Star Master, but I like it.

>>4752280
If there's a collection of 2600 games that's decent I haven't seen it, even with the good ones Atari just doesn't have the rights to all the best games

>>4748792
GBC Yars Revenge has actual graphics, sort of, and seems pretty faithful although it's still not that clear what the hell you're supposed to be doing, and having to scroll the screen kinda kills it imo

>>4748638
Starmaster is amazing.

>>4748792
>>4750607
>>4752280
>>4752985
Activision Anthology has a fairly complete selection of Activision's games, only leaving out the few licensed ones they did. It's by far the best collection to get. Atari's first person games generally weren't the best, and there's a lot of license issues keeping the better games away from the collections.

>>4752991
Got it anon, I checked it out and it's truly fantastic, it even has the old commercials and a trophy system. I'm in.

>>4729545
daley thompsons decathalon?
destroyer of joysticks...

>>4731171
no zaxxon
no river raid

>>4752991
>first person
*First party, obviously

I would like to upgrade my Atari 800 XE from 64kB to 128kB, and I checked the two chips that are already on the pcb and they are TMS4464-10NL / IHE 9101. would adding two chips with the same TMS4464-10NL but a different IHE name work? like adding two that end with IHE 9001?
Also would I need to add more stuff? I found some info about someone modding another model and it said to add two capacitors on a certain place.
I also checked and it seems I have a FREDDIE chip, I don't know if that makes any difference?

>>4724709
Needs more Tunnel Runner and less Night Driver

>>4724709
Where the fuck is Battlezone, Robot Tank, Secret Quest, Empire Strikes Back, and Tapper?

>>4724709
>no Return of the Jedi

What’s some “impressive” 2600 games? I’ve been curious about the capabilities of the console for a while now. I’m not necessarily asking for GOOD games mind you, just that they’re “impressive” in some technical way. The most complicated game I’ve played on 2600 is Dragon Stomper if you guys need a baseline for “impressive”.

>>4758869

Pitfall 2 is pretty much the 2600 pushed to its limits considering the background detail, the animations and theres no flickering at all. And the most important is theres music during the gameplay with 4 audio channels.
This was achieved using special chips on the cartridge, like Yoshi Island on the SNES.
Of course nowadays theres plenty of homebrews much more advanced if you ignore the 4k rom size limit.

>>4758869
Solaris, pitfall 2, montezuma's revenge, secret quest and jr pac man all provide gameplay experiences that are on par with a lot of NES games. They just aren't as impressive in the audio/graphics departments.

>>4758869
Robot Tank.

>>4724013
2600 version gained some notoriety due to Glitch Heaven, but much less known is the 5200 version's Glitch Hell. That one seems a lot more deliberate as well.

>>4758936
For the real time and weather effects definitely. I'd argue Battlezone is more impressive though, blows my mind how they managed to pull off the 3D environment. Dodge enemy fire to see what I'm talking about.

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