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When did he jump the shark?

>inB4 he was never good

>> No.4735425
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When he kind of abandoned his own channel to work on the movie.
He got back on track ages ago though.

>> No.4735435

If you're going by the actual definition of shark jumping - a desperate stunt to try and bring in viewers.... never. Closest that would qualify would be those crossover videos where he "battled" the Nostalgia Critic.

>> No.4735437

I think his videos are still interesting when he focuses on the game and doesn't get so caught up in the dumb gimmicky shit. Like just keep it to a semi-legitimate commentary/review even if his reactions are obviously exaggerated and played up some. Those ones were always the most fun to watch. When you waste half the episode on fighting with a guy in a bugs bunny suit or some stupid beranstain bears conspiracy theory or something it just gets cringy.

>> No.4735440

Once artists are popular for about ten years, give or take, the fan base becomes bitchy and often impossible to please. Sometimes the artist really does start to suck but more often people are just pissed they aren't getting what *they* want, everyone else's taste be damned.

I've laughed just as much at the new episodes as the old ones. Maybe you're outgrowing him OP. If that's the case it's time to find a new channel or create your own. Good luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSMq_QNvOA

>> No.4735443

>>4735440
That episode is one of my favorites. Granted I already enjoy Keith's stuff, so seeing both the nerd and keith together was a deal. They should do another episode together.
One of my favorite lines from that episode (from keith):
>You turned off Sonic! Christmas offense.

>> No.4735445

>>4735419
Earthbound dropped today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5nX0FTH6Q

>> No.4735446

>>4735437
>When you waste half the episode on fighting with a guy in a bugs bunny suit or some stupid beranstain bears conspiracy theory or something it just gets cringy.

I agree, they're barely interesting to tolerate on the first playthrough but are episodes that I'd never rewatch because who wants to see some half-baked trash from a failed film director? But he's obviously bored with the shtick, and has been for at least since the "game trailers" era... he just uses the nerd as a springboard to try to do what he actually loves which is directing and producing movies. He just sucks at it. Nobody fucking cares about his "movies", just the reviews.

Also he needs to review more slightly new stuff, there's a ton of trash on the PSX he hasn't even touched.

>> No.4735451

>>4735440
I actually owned the activator as a kid. My dad went out and got it for us since obviously as a kid it seemed awesome from the commercials, and in my 8-year-old or so imagination I assumed that the character would do EXACTLY as you do inside the little circle so you could pull off crazy moves impossible with the normal control scheme.

Of course after messing with it for about 5-10 minutes I quickly realized this thing was fucking useless and unplayable and never touched it again.

>> No.4735456

>>4735446
>Also he needs to review more slightly new stuff, there's a ton of trash on the PSX he hasn't even touched.

That is less about "new" and more about the fact that him and Mike are devout Nintendo fanboys who hardly ever branched out beyond it, it's very obvious.

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4735458

You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.4735461

>>4735419
But he wasn't, not even trying to be contrarian. All he could do was swearing, bitching and making up le funny faces, nothing special or particularly fun. Maybe you're just tired of the same basic formula or watched it as a kid or a teen and then grew up of it.
>but le dude was so fucking based he single handedly shaped the modern retro community and the e-celeb world
Definitely not a good thing.

>> No.4735463

>>4735461
>but le dude was so fucking based he single handedly shaped the modern retro community and the e-celeb world
What? kids don't watch AVGN, they watch stuff like Game Grumps or pewdiepie.
James has been doing the nerd since before Youtube existed. Probably since before you had your first memories as a kid.
Try again, contrarian edgy hipster from /v/

>> No.4735464 [DELETED] 

>>4735458
>announcing a sage

buh-bye

>> No.4735469

>>4735463
How are most modern e-celebs not literally the nerd ya doofus. He and Doug popularized the whole guy talking in front of a camera thing.

>> No.4735474

>>4735461
It was a different age when the nerd started, what he (and Charlie the Unicorn) did was raise the bar for original content on YouTube and in those early days people started making some interesting content that tried to rival TV. The issue is that youtube changed what was to be monetized and prioritized long videos released frequently.

That's when letsplays, shitlists and long unedited shit became popular. Even Jontron, arguably the most popular AVGN clone, had to stop making his edited reviews since they just were no longer profitable.

>> No.4735482

>>4735419

when he started doing shows out of character. he should only appear in public as the AVGN

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>>4735469
>He and Doug popularized the whole guy talking in front of a camera thing.
Gen Z, everyone. e-celebs invented talking in front of a camera.

>> No.4735496

>>4735445
Great, well there goes Earthbound to $300

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>>4735496
>not having owned Earthbound since 1995

>> No.4735503

>>4735496
Don't worry, Earthbound was never good

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>>4735503
>that one guy who thinks people give a fuck about his unpopular opinions

>> No.4735506

>>4735497
Had it since 2014 actually. Maybe it's time to sell.

>> No.4735507

>>4735506
Definitely, you never deserved it anyways.

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4735509

Why is everyone on this board such a gigantic pissbaby? I typically only come here for recommendations and such but anytime I actually spend the time to lurk I realize how oddly hostile and uptight everyone here is compared to other boards

>> No.4735510

>>4735507
ok autist

>> No.4735514

>>4735510
Don't get angry, just telling it like it is.

>> No.4735518

>>4735514
ok angry autist

>> No.4735520

>>4735509
Shills.

>> No.4735523

>>4735497

I actually bought a couple of cases of unopened Earthbound games directly from Nintendo back in the day because I figured it would be worth money in the future

>> No.4735525

>>4735518
Huh?

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You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.4735532

Another example of faggot mods selectively choosing what rules to enforce. ARE THESE THREADS BANNED OR NOT YOU FUCKING RETARDS

>> No.4735537

remind me what ecelebs have to do with retro games again?

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I think he is playing the "angry nerd" way too much in his recent videos while letting the "storytelling" of old videogames on the side, which is a shame because that was the best and most comfy part of his old videos.

>> No.4735545

>>4735461

As someone who studied film in college he definitely is special, at least in a sense that he knows how to do a lot with little and make fun B movies. Seriously dude, it may not be your cup of tea but a LOT of work went into something like the Activator episode. It's not just a guy cursing in front of a green screen.

>> No.4735549

Anyone think that ecelebs are cancer an the people who watch them are drooling retard faggots?

>> No.4735550

>>4735532
>Another example of faggot mods selectively choosing what rules to enforce. ARE THESE THREADS BANNED OR NOT YOU FUCKING RETARDS
Dude, a while back they made a notification saying at least one thread for this shit would be allowed. Lurk moar.

>> No.4735552

>>4735545
This.

His Jekyll and Hyde video is pure kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3_OGnROMo

>> No.4735556

>>4735550
No they didn’t. Check the archive for threads deleted as recently as yesterday. Reminder to sage and report all eceleb threads

>> No.4735557

>>4735537
Absolutely nothing! They’re utter cancer

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>>4735550
Fuck off to >>>/v/ underage

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You know I had to sage and report it to em.

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Does anyone else like Simutrans better than OpenTTD? The interface is dogshit, but it feels more like a proper game instead of a toy.

>> No.4735602 [DELETED] 

Nice eceleb cancer thread you got there, would be a shame if someone saged it.

>> No.4735603

>>4735552
Or perhaps you’re a pure faggot?

>> No.4735643

Best videos on that channel were the Mike and bootsy videos.
Mike would be horrible at the game and talk about how hard it is, then bootsy would clear it without any trouble for his first try.

>> No.4735649

>>4735643
None of the videos are good, unless you have a sub-100 IQ

>> No.4735652

>>4735649
YKWB and the Monster Madness series are good.
Although to be honest you need a very high IQ to fully appreciate Cinemassacre's best works.

>> No.4735653

>>4735643
Mike and Bootsy are the worst parts of the whole channel

>> No.4735679

>>4735652
>>>/v/ underage board is that way

>> No.4735723

>>4735653
Bootsy beat Silver Surfer. Opinion discarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNMVgAAdrt8

>> No.4735725

>>4735549
Gen Z. They'd rather watch people playing video games than play video games.

>> No.4735735

>>4735419
When he ran out of games he was legitimately angry about because they pissed him off as a kid.

>> No.4735757

>>4735419
IDK... I think his content keeps improving.

>> No.4735761

>>4735435
I've always disliked the Nostalgia Critic. Something about that entire channel seemed so pretentious that I didn't want to bother with any of it.

>> No.4735768

>>4735761
It was fake as hell.

AVGN was fun to watch because he reviewed shit that legitimately made him angry or frustrated and it showed.

>> No.4735782

What I hate/love of him at the same time is his completely ignorance about gaming. He is not even good at most of the games he play.

>> No.4735785

>>4735556
>>4735561
So which bitter AVGN wanna be who never made a dime are you?

>> No.4735787

>>4735725
What causes this phenomenon? Laziness? Not an actual interest in videogames, but rather in the social/friend simulator aspects of let's plays and speedrunners? So when they buy a game it isn't as much a desire to play it but rather a "oh hey, look at me, I have some really old Mega Man X cartridge, just like the super cool older kid Egoraptor!"

>> No.4735794

>>4735735
The Tiger LCD game episode was the best at that. You could FEEL how he truly despised that crap.

>> No.4735795

>>4735787
Bitch we have no money, no time, and no energy.

>> No.4735798

>>4735653
That would be Ryan

>> No.4735826

>>4735795
You have enough time to watch YouTube and post on 4chan. You quite literally have way too much time.

>> No.4735831

>>4735757
Me too, I have no idea why people keep bitching about the new episodes

>> No.4735848

>>4735768
Naw dude. There was nothing fake about that pretentious attitude from Channel Awesome or what ever the fuck that cess pool was called that had the Nostalgia Critic.

>> No.4735849

>>4735795
Jesus, are Gen Z kids this pathetic?

You have enough time to watch someone play video games on the internet, but not enough time to actually play them? Are you retarded? Maybe watch a little less Twitch and try actually playing a game for a change.

Maybe if you had a job and actually went outside once in a while, you'd have some money and wouldn't be to lethargic and pathetic.

And to think your generation likes to talk shit about millennials. What a joke.

>> No.4735851

>>4735782
Have you seen him play Super Ghouls and Ghosts? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.4735856

>>4735798
Agree. I don't hate him or anything. Just not entertaining like James and Mike are.

>> No.4735859

>>4735787
That's the whole of society ever since twitter.

>> No.4735862

>>4735419
He didn't. You just grew older than 12 and were too old for avgn.

>> No.4735863

>>4735848
I don't mean that the fact that he is a punchable twat is fake. I mean the whole act was embarrassing and tryhard.

>> No.4735872

Reminder to sage and report cancerous eceleb threads

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>it's an AVGN episode where he just plays and reviews a game and doesn't do a retarded skit, use a retarded character, or say a long stretch of swear words

>> No.4735898

>>4735761
I liked some of the early videos before he went full SJW

>> No.4735907

>>4735490
who the fuck said invented? learn to read retard

>> No.4735932

>>4735896
That means Mike's involvement in the writing was limited.

>> No.4735936

ASS

>> No.4735941

>>4735872

im glad that GCCX threads are bannable offense too :)

>> No.4735946

HOLY PISS THIS THREAD IS A SHITFUCK OF ASS

>> No.4735950

>>4735941
They should be. But the dumb faggot mods can’t make up their minds what they ban or don’t! Anywho, reminder to sage and report cancer eceleb threads!

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>>4735950

>> No.4735975

>>4735474
>Charlie the Unicorn

What? Shitty flash animation? Newgrounds was full of that shit way before YT existed.

>> No.4735979

I respect James as a person a lot, he's a nice guy and all that but I'm a little tired of the Nerd character now.

I'd like James even more if he reviewed stuff as himself rather than the character, I think the Nerd has outstayed its welcome.

>> No.4735981

>>4735907
>still replying to the shill

>> No.4736002

>tfw there are people who still don't get AVGN was always a character who while rooted in truth, primarily satire and meant to be funny, and think they are genuine reviews.

Come on...AVGN was always a goof, it was entertainment, satire, sure there is some truth within there but it was never a real person or a real persons thoughts, it was supposed to be over the top

>> No.4736006

How can anyone unironically tolerate Mike?

He is not built for being in front of a camera, he just nervously spouts irrelevant, unfunny and often untrue contributions to the video in that horrid nasally voice.

As for James, I like the guy. All the shit episodes don't null the genuinely funny observations he made in the classic episodes. I remember the first time I saw the Lester the Unlikely episode. When he said 'get the fuck up there' I completely lost it. There's a point where the frustration becomes forced but its hard to keep it natural.

>> No.4736016

>>4735761
Nostalgia critic is just painfully unfunny and has no idea what the fuck the films he watches are even about.

>> No.4736017

>>4735957
What do ecelebs have to do with retro games?

>> No.4736027

>>4736017
His show is literally all about retro games.

>> No.4736029

>>4735509
That's what happens when you have a board full of high school kids that spend all their time here instead of trying to go out and get laid.

>> No.4736035

>>4736029
Why are you here, then?

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>>4735509
>pissbaby

>> No.4736041

>>4735798
Ryan is a living loaf of bread. But with him owning Screenwave Media looks like he will be around for a long time.

Fucking sucks Bootsy is gone. But we still got the racist man child Mike Matei.

>> No.4736045

>>4736041
Bootsy Beats was the best, dude was fucking ice cold, man

>> No.4736046

>>4736027
What retro console can I play his show on?

If I make a show, can I post it here? What about my retro blog, can I post it here?

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>>4736027

>literally

fuck off miss California

>> No.4736057

>>4736041
>racist

explain

>> No.4736087

>>4736035
Killing time waiting on my woman to get off from work.

And good comeback there snappy. But it took you an entire period of study hall to come up with it.

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>>4736057
Someones still butthurt about somes comics Mike made.

>> No.4736091

>>4736057
Mike wrote and drew a bunch of racist comics back in his early 20s. They got discovered last year or so and since then Mike has tried his best to get them taken down anytime they pop up.

>> No.4736092

>>4736090
Yea I am so butthurt over a shitty comic a no talent like Matei drew. I was just pointing out a fact. Plus shouldn't you be paying attention in school instead of fucking off on your phone.

>> No.4736094

>>4736087
>staying home while the womenfolk are the breadwinners
Pathetic.

>> No.4736098

>>4736092
NOW THATS AN ASSLOAD OF ASS AND SHIT. WHAT AN ASS

>> No.4736101

>>4736006

I like his let's plays.

>> No.4736113

>>4736029
>>4736041
>>4736087
>>4736091
>Every post he makes is about children
Get the fuck out of here you nonce

>> No.4736131

>>4736090
LMAO oh fuck, now I like Mike even more.

>> No.4736135

I still enjoy AVGN, it's kind of hit and miss since after the Shitmas episodes, one good episode, one bad episode, two good episodes, two bad episodes, something in that sense.

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You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.4736165

Season 4 was the last truly good one.

>> No.4736173

I think it's less he JUMPED the shark and more it became increasingly obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about. So many episodes just run into the same boring complaints and there was an increase of idiotic shit coming out of his mouth. Things like "Nobody reads the manual" or him freaking out because jump and shoot where mapped to different buttons than Mega man.

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>>4735907
>e-celebs popularized talking in front of a camera
>e-celebs popularized eating
>e-celebs popularized breathing
>e-celebs popularized being an ignorant gen Z parroter

>> No.4736217

>>4736090
This is so over the top I fail to see how anyone could see it as legitimately racist

>> No.4736221

>>4735419
Honestly he never "jumped the shark", but the episode quality went down ever since the ROB episode. Even then he still has some really good episodes. It's more hit or miss but what do you expect when he's been doing this for a decade?

>> No.4736227 [DELETED] 

>>4736174
Well said lad you told him. Now let's take a time to talk about how N64 emulation fucking sucks, trust me with this bro you're better buying an amazing, brand new Everdrive 64™. This product is a must have if you’re a N64 fan. And you are, right? It is everything a console should be. No load times, sturdy, easy to use, fun, cheap. No other console is as perfect as the N64

>> No.4736251

>Shilling for the new AVGN episodes is allowed but making fun of the shill isn't
fucking janitors

>> No.4736368

The first bad episode he did was the Barbie one, where he went through his whole video-making process. While I actually found that interesting, I think there was a whiff of bitterness because he was kind of burned out and didn't think the fans appreciated how much work went into each episode, even if it was only like 5 minutes long. Which if he did think that, he was probably right. They don't. But that's neither here nor there.

Most of the episodes he did while working on the movie weren't very good, with the exception of the Dark Castle one. It wasn't that he didn't put enough effort into them, it was more like he wasn't looking hard enough for games that had AVGN "potential." Understandable. The guy is only human, he put an obscene amount of work into the movie, can't expect him to be 100% on five different things at once, including raising small children.

He didn't get his mojo back until Big Rigs, which was probably a Top 3 all-time episode, and he's been mostly good ever since. I'm glad he had the opportunity to make the movie, but on a personal level I just didn't care. AVGN had potential to be like Wayne's World or Beavis & Butt-Head where it could translate to the big screen with an innovative enough script, but I didn't like the AVGN Movie's premise.

Plus, the increased exposure has led to some kind of shitty guest episodes, like Toxic Crusaders and especially the Keith Apicary one.

>> No.4736387

How does it feel to know that the only reason this thread is permitted right now after all other eceleb threads have been deleted is because AVGN cut a check to gook moot and the faggot jannys have to comply? Reminder to sage all cancer eceleb threads!

>> No.4736417

I just watched the Crazy Castle outtakes a little while ago. It's hilarious to see them breaking down as James keeps having to redo the muckspreading line.
https://youtu.be/6rLrSFWPpqU

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>>4736368
>not liking the Keith episode
I don't get people who browse /vr/ and don't like Keith.

>> No.4736528

>>4736514
I liked his Virtual Boy and Dreamcast 2 music videos, but I thought it was kinda shitty how he went around bumping into fragile stuff in stores and acted like a mental defective to get away with it.

>> No.4736531

>>4736514
I wouldn't say it's Keith I had the problem with. My opinion on him is basically neutral because I hadn't heard of him before the episode. It's really more a principal dislike of crossovers/guest stars. They always seem to detract from the overall unique charm of whatever show it is.

>> No.4736549

>>4736528
t. store clerk