/vr/ - Retro Games

Capcom. I love SNK but they're no competition. No one was until Arc System Works.

Sega or Namco.

>>4724815
I love SNK too, but probably this. It's close though.

>>4724807
They both pumped out some fatastic games but I have to give a slight edge to Capcom if only because they made Darkstalkers.

>>4724807
SNK. Capcom just made 100 reskins of SF2 with different licenses. SNK had actual variety to their games, oh and their graphic designers and composers were 100 times better.

I don't play either but I'm pretty sure the Street Fighter guy is a pop culture icon for a reason while nobody who isn't a manchild could name an SNK character by sight.

>>4724807
I like Samurai Shodown but Capcom. No Contest

>>4725115
The guy who did Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury is the original creator of Ryu and Ken.

I like both, but Capcom is my favorite of the two.

>>4725115
>hot insights from the clueless

>>4724830
What game is this from?

>>4725428
KoF '99

>>4725437
It's sadly one of the worst KoFs gameplay wise

>>4725438
But it's got some of the best backgrounds in the series and introduced some cool characters.

>>4724807
Capcom obviously

At first I was a Capcom fanboy.
Then I got into SNK and Arc System and lost the reason to defend each separately.

No matter what you choose you always win.
To this day my favorite fighters are 3rd Strike, AC+ R (and Revelator) and Real Bout 2.

>>4725107
100% sure this post is a troll, but just putting out there, equating Vampire Savior, JoJo and Marvel series to "SF2 reskins" is either dishonest or stupid

>>4724807
not capcom

>>4725541
Care to elaborate why?

>>4725553
i liked them more because the sprites of characters were so much bigger, much faster action, way better art and styling and far better music and audio. I loved capcom's fighters but always preferred snk's range.

>>4725449
I try to love Arc System but they are too much weeaboo for my taste. Capcom usually has a better balance between anime and realism artstyles. SNK too, although with the latest KOFs they had gone a bit too far with fanservice and average anime plots.

>>4724824
this guy knows it.

>>4724807

They were both great. Just Capcom seemed to have the slightly better devs. Yoshiki Okamoto, Akiman, Akira Nishitani, Noritaka Funamizu etc etc. They fucking ruled the industry back then.

These days you have some polish assholes pump 30 million usd into wanker 3 marketing, and everyone buys this crap. I miss the 90s.

>>4725614
I hated the way XII and XIII looked with the art style change. XIV is a little better but most of the new characters are horrid.

Kek

>>4725107
>capcom
>100 reskins of SF2

>not mentioning the decades-worth of yearly KoF games
>most of which are absolute trash to play

>>4725614
I don't mind Guilty Gear's aesthetic, but BlazBlue is just too late 00's/early 10's anime with its designs and story for me. Not a period of anime I'm particularly fond of.

>>4724807
Snk made a lot of fighters and all of them look super cool and stylized but in a lot of their games it feels like they were never meant for competitive play, and very little effort was put into balancing, it is good that they made a lot of fighting games without caring about competitive nature and made just-for-fun fighters but on the core balance is quite necessary and the players stay with them. But I gotta give it to them for the fun factor, I always prefer playing snk games with friends and neighbors even tho the fighter I have played the most is street fighter 3, from lime light if I show best looking snk and capcom fighters to someone no doubt he will pick garou instead of alpha/3rd strike

>>4725449
This guy get it

>>4724807
AoF
FF
KoF
Samsho
LB

I think SNK had the better games, SF wasn't good until 3.

>>4724807
Capcom if CvS2 and SvC Chaos is of any indication. SNK had way better stage backgrounds though.

SEGA

LightWeight is a notable mention too. Unfortunately, the quality of their games declined significantly in later years.

Virtua Fighter > Tekken > any Capcom fighting game > any SNK fighting game

as much as i like capcom, i would have to give it to snk just because of kof, AOF, fatal fury e.g. capcom did get better when 3s and alpha 3 hit the scene as much as sf2 was great it got a little stale after the 4th sf2 game as much as super was great as a game it just got a little bland imo.

Garou was better than 3rd Strike and the only reason it wasn't as popular is because it didn't have Street Fighter in the title.

Capcom for 2D.
Sega for 3D.

snk had better art, but capcom fighters played better

>>4732173
>better art
kof with its plethora of soibois proves this wrong

>>4732265
Nice buzzword but you're supposed to be over 18 to post here.

>>4732307
>Nice buzzword but you're supposed to be over 18 to post here.
Nice butthurt but you're supposed to not be an easily triggered leftist snowflake here.

>>4732353
Sorry for not applauding people who act like 13 year olds lol

>>4725661
Yeah I give them credit for doing it at least but that was not an attractive game. I’m glad I got XIII cheap because I didn’t play it much at all.

>>4732387
It's such a shame because it could have looked like detailed Shinkiro art in motion, but they made everyone super cartoony.

It's still possible the 3D ones now will get to that point but I worry we're stuck with a lot of the terrible new characters forever now.

>>4732173
I actually think that the vs. series has better art than most of the SNK fighting games

>>4732394
don't count on that.

the chinamen are the ones doing the character models and i don't think they can use shinkiro art without him.

>>4733659
Oooof I had never considered that, but I fear you're right. Ahh well, I'll just keep living in the past when it comes to KoF.

Real Bout Fatal Fury, Real Bout Special are both better than ANY capcom game

>>4725107
>composers 100 times better
>yoko shimomura composed SF2
>literally who buttrock is better than yoko

I don’t even know what snk is.

>>4732394
>it could have looked like detailed Shinkiro art in motion

why do SNK fans love the creepy same face character box-art?

thank fuck Shinkiro isn't involved with snk art anymore

>>4733975
SNK died long ago

>>4733975
Meh, I just like it.

>>4733975
Meh, I just like it. You don't have to.

How is Street Fighter Alpha 2 on SNES? Complete waste of time compared to other versions?

>>4732394
if a future KOF had 3d models with semi-realistic rendering but the cartoony black celshade outline like late 90s/early 00s Shinkiro art, i'd be in heaven.

>>4734248
Yeah, that's the dream.

>>4733659
Fuck this gay Earth

>>4735082
Fuck you lol

>>4724807
SNK. So much style and variation, each game feels like a meal. Capcom is like pizza, never awful but never outstanding.

SNK for when I want my soiboi fix, Capcom if I want a good fighter.

>>4736564
This is what it's like for me too, though they have made a few pretty good pizzas.

>>4736583
Yo mama biatch

>>4724807
SNK was more interesting. Capcom made better games.
but really, there's like three /vr/ games from each that are still worth really getting into when you consider their balance (or lack thereof)

>>4729832
motw has too many issues
Kevin is actually retarded and is better than both boss characters.

they really tried to make the best damn thing they could though, that game would be absolutely fucking perfect with a revision
but really, a huge amount of SNK's lineup feels like that

>>4725661
I liked the way the games look, but I've got a ton of problems with the artstyle. KOF13 is pretty, but kinda dumb looking at the same time.

had more problems with its mechanics though

>>4729612
>SF wasn't good until 3.
what happened to Alpha 2?

>>4725438
99 pisses me off so much.
at least 2000 fixes a bunch of its problems, but no one plays that game

>>4738631
Yup, '99 has great music and backgrounds as well as added some nest new characters. But ohh boy does it suck other than that. I like both 2000 and 2001 better.

>>4736583
Who in KoF is basedlike?

>>4736583
Who in SNK is like that?

Lel

SNK has more developed characters that are more interesting and visually appealing imo. Overall their games are just more interesting, and the stories are actually kind of cool.

Capcom's games have better mechanics and graphics usually. But they are both really close, in the early 90s I would say SNK was ahead for a while.

as someone that loves characters, storyline and atmosphere, SNK will always be my fave, though I acknowledge Capcom makes better games, usually.

>>4724815
namco was a pretty good challenger with tekken and soul calibur, but otherwise agreed

SNK made some good games.
Capcom made Street Fighter 2.

SNK just can't compete. What's SNK legacy?

>>4742764
Is this a joke?

>>4724807
Capcom was better at balancing and their AI (usually) didn't cheat

SNK made way too many KOF games. And I never liked the 2 (or 3) plane system in the Fatal Fury series. Thankfullly Garou MOTW gets rid of the plane system and it plays like a dream

Samurai Shodown was probably their best game series but it wasn't perfect

>>4725107
>Capcom just made 100 reskins of SF2 with different licenses

how do you enjoy 10 annual KOF games in a row? 1994-2003. That's Call of duty level nonsense

How do you enjoy SNK milking the Neo Geo hardware for so long?

>>4743000
MotW is like an SNKlite game.

>>4738631
>motw has too many issues
>Kevin is actually retarded and is better than both boss characters.

what is Chun Li?

What do you call 4 headswaps (Ryu, Ken, Sean, Akuma), two more clones (Yun and Yang) and two more pallette swaps (urien and Gill)?

Sheer laziness

>>4743002
Each is a little different making each interesting in it's own way.

>>4743013
I love both, but as i grow older the technical aspects of snk games have really tickled my pickle, also killer instinct FUCK THE WORLD!!!

>>4743061
Ohh Babs!

>>4743002
Each game plays differently in some way beyond balance, with a few exceptions. You also get new art, music, and characters.
plus, Capcom had semi-normalized it (1991 WW, 1992 CE, 1993 HF, later in 1993 SSF2, and then 1994 SSF2T) -- each of those games plays pretty differently too, but they've got less changes than KOF releases

but yeah, they're fairly different games apart from 97->98 and 94->95, both of which are largely just balance fixes in terms of overall mechanics
the rest clearly feel like major updates than just revisions to the preceding game

>>4738681
Why exactly does it suck?

>>4733975
A shame if you ask me

>>4724824
lolno

>>4744249
Their crossover games always felt weird.

>>4744249
pretty awesome game; hope it gets remade.

>>4744167
It's full of unbalanced shit: Armor and Counter mode, strikers, that really weird ass back dodge. To be fair that can be said about the entire NESTS saga.