/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4726768
Let's not until we get a patch of sorts

Again? There is so much you can say about this subject.

Generals within generals are a mistake.

>>4726768

Probably the grandsons of our grandsons would be the first one to play If in inglish

I'm just hoping the release of Metal Max Xeno in English will spur people to translate Metal Max 2. I also want some more saturn translations, like Linda Cubed and Princess Crown

lol EOPs
that's all I have to say

>>4726768
I hate gideon and what he become, a SJW and a mangina, marry and kids changed this man for the worst, he was a cool dude in the 2000's

Nobody has still picked this up

>>4727810
>yet

I've heard that kanji is too big to fit in older games. If that's the case, would knowledge of hiragana/katakana be all you need to be able to play stuff like famicom games?

>>4727878
Yeah, but the character sets are not totally ordinary and can be a little hard to read.

>>4727878

That was the reasoning for some games using all-kana text, but not all cases. If there was very little text in the ROM, the developers might use scant bits of kanji. In some cases, compression allowed for liberal use of kanji.

Knowledge of kana will suffice for reading text in many retro games, but there's much more to deciphering the text than simply understanding how to pronounce it. Obviously, you have to develop a strong grasp of Japanese grammar and syntax, and memorize a fair bit of vocabulary. Given Japanese isn't even remotely similar to European languages on any level, this can be a daunting task. Plus you have to consider that memorizing kanji isn't going to seem like that big of a deal if you're already putting forth the effort to memorize an entire vocabulary anyway.

>>4727878
Yes, but have fun because reading Japanese without kanji is a major asspain, feels unnatural, and slows down reading speed.

>>4727878
Not really. You need grammar to understand what the characters are saying. You can't just string all the words together and try to gleam some sense from it.

>>4727878
>>4727891
To clarify: the NES video ram had space for 256 tiles (a little less, actually). Each letter would be 1 tile. Since both sets of kana go a little over 42 tiles, the rest is used by graphics and onscreen stuff. They didn't use kanji, except for stuff like title screen or chapter titles, because not all kanji could be left in the little video memory they had. What they usually did was use a few kanji that was extensively used through the game (example, Hikari = light).

The very few games that actually used kanjis in the NES, used a programming trick to swap the characters in and out from memory in real-time. I mean "trick" because they need to be changed according to the situation - IIRC, Gideon Zhi said the SMT NES games had all sorts of hard-coded stuff, instead of clear-cut command codes.

Just FYI,
Hard-coded: someone coded the values by hand in every instance
Command code: sorta like a formatting code, like bold, italic, underscript and so on.

>>4727998
>SMT
>NES

>>4728001
Shit, I meant Megaten.

>>4727998
I have a rather text heavy One Piece Gameboy game that uses exactly one kanji in all the text combined, 実.

>>4728078
That was the norm back in the NES/SNES era. One of the few SNES games that extensively used kanji was Tokimeki Memorial. And it had who knows how many layers of compression already.

Even games made for learners, like Pokémon, still used just a few kanji that were very common in the game. Kana-only games are stuff from NES games, because of limitations.

For example: Super Mario RPG used two kanji a lot throughly the game: Princess and Castle.

>>4728142
No, Pokemon uses lots of kanji. It just allows you to switch to kana-only mode if you're not the best reader. The older games were kana-only.

>>4728148
Doesn't Pokémon use furigana? Or was that Devil Survivor?

I stopped playing Pokémon back in Crystal.

>>4728150
I think some of the spinoff games do (Ranger?), but not the main series.

>>4728148

I don't think this occurred until the third generation. Neither my Red cart nor my Gold cart uses any kanji whatsoever. Crystal might have, but I haven't touched that version yet.

>>4728212
Yeah, they started doing it with gen 5.

>>4728142
>the few SNES games that extensively used kanji
in which parallel universe are jp snes games with kanji few? nintendo literally marketed the snes as the console that could finally display kanji (that zelda 2 pic) gamefreak's jelly boy 1, a launch title, had a bunch of kanji. and then the bigger the cartridge was, the more kanji until it was 1800 in uncharted waters jp. the average for quintet games is 600.

>>4727408
Too bad Xeno is as boring, ugly and uninspired as it looked.

>>4726768
go and fuck yourself gideon mangina, sjw cunt!

>>4728254
>Yeah, they started doing it with gen 5.

Odd. I figured Gen III would have had kanji by then. Plenty of other GBA games do.

I'd just like to let you know that translation on its own has absolutely nothing to do with /vr/. This would be better discussed on /vg/ instead.

>>4731535
Neither does ROM hacking while they're talking about DS. hacking. Remove the other general, you two faced scum.

>>4731761
Remove all generals

>>4731793
this desu

>>4731535
nice try gideon!

>>4731879

Did you get banned from RHDN and now you're schizoposting on 4chan? At least you had the courtesy to adopt a trip so anons can filter you.

>>4731918
I was a mod on that board, I leave by my own will, I was not ok that the rules apply to some people and not for someone else (gideon)

>>4732349

I don't like Gideon or Nightcrawler either, but newsflash: you're also one of most notorious mental cases ever to plague the scene. There's no reason to migrate your name and all the e-drama associated with it to our little community, unless you feel some need to elicit shitposting wherever you go.

Someone translate Verne World for me, I'm too lazy to learn Japanese.

>>4731535
A translation general at /vg/ would get buried instantly because it's not about wanking to anime waifus.

Metal Slade Glory has apparently been finished for years but the guy won't release it for whatever reason. Been waiting on this one forever.

https://youtu.be/KV1tEq1YbFk

>>4727980
The amount of people who think that ignoring kanji, the backbone of the language, when learning Japanese is anything but a huge mistake is ridiculous.

>>4732401
Stop inciting drama, anon.

>>4733437
I agree

>>4726768
Im not sure this is the place but there are literally no other places that would find this usefull.

There is a game call little girl mill of ginko or mill for short. Its a south korean game and somebody actually made a playable translation. Its 2d, the gp32 cant do 3d and is mostly used as an emulation handheld for retro games. There is literally nothing next gen or new about this thing. There were about 30 games released on smc cards... if you have a gp32 and didnt know now you do or if you are a collector looking for something obscure to collect for, this might be the handheld for you, good luck finding much though.