/vr/ - Retro Games

Fucked up architecture and less documentation than an illegal immigrant

At this point it is just best to get an EverDrive 64 and move on.

n64 has no gaems tho

>>4703931
Gamecube had a shitton of leaked development tools accidentally left in some retail games. N64 does not.

>>4703986
This. The controls don't always translate to a modern dual shock derivative pad anyways

Wait what's wrong with Project 64? I remember emulating tons of great games on that with no problem years ago

>>4704807
You have a shit memory because you were too young to notice how bad it really was.

>two hundred ninety six games

>>4703931
Because every unofficial N64 emulator is plugins based. Literally no plugins based emulator has ever been any good whatsoever. Look at ePSXe, it was plugins based and was fucking garbage, that's why everybody uses mednafen for PS1 emulation now despite how retarded and shitty it is to set that up even with with a frontend.
That leads to my second point: these plugins based emulators are shit but people still use and develop for them. PJ64 has a shitload of plugins and version releases by today, and up until mednafen put theirs out the same was true for ePSXe. Emufags don't have high standards to begin with, they only care if the games are able to actually run, amigafags were actually happy to emulate NES games at half speed and no sound. Fast forward to today and people are actually paying money every month for a closed source Wii U emulator that requires a high end machine, does not allow for any AMD support whatsoever, and can only reliably play one fucking game. Think about it.

>>4704829
Zelda actually runs at 60 fps.

>>4704197
>accidentally

>>4703931
/vr/ told me in 2013 that CEN64 was going to perfect N64 emulation

what happened?

>>4703939
>>4704197
This

>>4704901
I wish devs did it intentionally but by 6th gen they were much tighter with it or else we'd have way better PS2 and Xbox emulators

>>4704924
>believing something /vr/ tells you
I hope you don't actually do this

Dolphin just has a really good and active development team. Project 64 is old as shit and not as active and others are probably even less so.

>>4704867
>Emufags don't have high standards to begin with, they only care if the games are able to actually run

is this bait?

>Wii U emulator that requires a high end machine, does not allow for any AMD support whatsoever, and can only reliably play one fucking game.

Are you talking about Zelda BOTW? Which runs at 60 fps now, higher than the original. Plenty of other games run close to 100%, with more to come

CEMU has improved a lot in just a short time. And you only need it for the nintendo games anyway

N64 emulation is actually a lot better than people give it credit, and it's fairly easy to setup even.

There are games that don't work and games that have some bugs but vast majority of the great games you played as a kid work fine.

All the zeldas and marios work 100%, goldeneye and perfect dark work pretty great aside from the visual water bug in frigate in goldeneye and the sped up intro i think it works perfectly.

I think a lot of complains about N64 emulation is because people forget how laggy games ran on the N64 and they will run laggy in emulation as well no matter the graphics settings since the limitation of the original hardware is emulated even though you can up the resolution and other graphical settings.

Some games can be hacked to run smoothly at 60FPS but due to poor programming a lot of games will bug out or run out of sync if you try to make them run faster.

>>4704807
lags, low compatibility, sound issues, missing textures, ect.
And you can just forget about playing on an actual console like the wii with homebrew channel. Banjo Tooie's spiral mountain into a 5fps land of snow.

>All I've wanted to do for years now is just play DK64 again
>It'll never work properly on an emulator ever.
>It'll never be on the virtual console either

>>4705148
>>4703931
Last time I used Wii64 it was complete shit. Is it better now? I heard they stopped updating it.

>>4705231
When was the last time you used it? I tried it maybe three years ago and it was still trash with even more missing textures and lag than emulating on a pc.

>>4705230
Anon, it's on the virtual console... Wii U exclusively for now, but it's there.

At any rate, if you want it so bad just get an everdrive and an expansion pak... though apparently Nintendo brand expansion paks are hard to come by for a reasonable price, and third party expansion paks destroy consoles.

>>4704807

>>4705238
>Nintendo brand expansion paks are hard to come by for a reasonable price
Nigger, they're like $20 online. Get your money up.

>>4705238
Wait what? God damn I didnt know, if I hadn't recently got a switch I would have got a Wii U instead just for that.

>>4705252
lol, this

>>4703931
Your information is outdated. Any N64 emulator that supports the Angrylion Renderer is multiple times more accurate than the Wii VC. Do some research

Reality co-processor is a proprietary technology that can't be emulate just like the PS3's cell or 360's ES-RAM. 8n addition to this, Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U are only emulatable because a mole in NOA leaked the source code. I think PC gamers turn a deliberate blind eye to this since it makes it seem a boon to their platform.

>>4705372
What so you mean by """accurate""" in this context? The only inaccurate VC game I've seen is OoT.

>>4705582
I mean Xbone.

>>4705585
No other renderer but Angrylion emulates the VI overlay (which is the blurring anti aliasing effect you see on a real N64) and dithering properly / at all

>>4705239
>emulating tons of great games
>tons of GREAT games

>>4704941
Paper Mario is giving me one hell of a time trying to get it to work properly. I tried it five years ago and it would glitch in toad town and when going to the pause screen and I tried it yesterday to play Paper Mario Pro Mode (A hard mode hack) and even used some special plugins and it only shows the background but not my characters. If I disabled the plugin then I get the same sort of working emulator that I had five years ago with the really laggy pause screen.

Will the n64 flashcart play Paper Mario Pro Mode? That and Super smash brothers are really the only games I want to play.

>>4703931
>How come the N64 emulation of any N64 emulator is subpar compared to the Gamecube and Wii emulation
It's 100 times more accurate than Gamecube and Wii emulation. It just needs a ridiculously fast CPU.

>>4705669
Are you parroting some other dumb kid or did you come up with this all on your own?

>>4704197
why do dolphin devs think they're hotshit over n64 emu devs then?

>>4705951
I dunno.

>>4705592
>hating on Ninja Rugrats 64

>>4703939
>less documentation than an illegal immigrant
top kek. I love this board.

Here's a comparison between both VC releases and a real N64. You can see the Wii does not have the "N64 blur"

This is a screen capture of my computer running Retroarch Parallel N64 Core w/ Angrylion, much more 'accurate' representation of what an actual N64 looks like

>>4706451
>the state of limited rgb-range on WiiU
toplyl

>>4704830
>quality over quantity is a bad thing

The absolute state of sonyggers

>>4703931
n64 is easy to emulate, but it doesn't work 100% with default options, so casuals think the emulation is bad.
basically you need to download a graphics plugin and some games need certain settings.

n64 emulation being bad is a meme at this point.

>>4703939
>illegal immigrant

>>4707648
yeah no, I don't think that's it, champ.

>>4705253
At this point the only reason to get a Wii U is for being a Virtual Console box. Any non VC game worth playing is already on Switch.

>>4703939
kekd

>>4707917
It is tho but stay misinformed

Anyone willing to sell me their N64 and everdrive? Can't seem to find one without someone jewing me.

>>4708042
500 bucks

>>4708042
You rang?

I'm using project 64 and this graphics plugin:
https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64/releases

It seems to work really good on the games I tried so far. There's even actual widescreen support that doesn't stretch the image. Are the people who say n64 emulation still sucks using this one? Last update was at the start of this year.

Anyone here know how to get Project64 to use my dedicated Nvidia graphics card instead of the integrated Intel card on Windows 10? Already tried going thru the Nvidia control panel and telling it to use the Nvidia card for the pj64 exe file, but it just ignores it, based on the zero'd out performance data for the Nvidia card from Task Manager Performance tab.

>>4706456
nice

>>4706456
Go to west clocktown at the north end by the secret path and get a screen shot

>>4703931
they're not. i7 master race here: no problems whatsoever with n64 emulation with project64.

> subpar
> somehow gamecube and wii emulation is better though they have far shittier cpus than modern machines

you either don't know what you're doing, don't know what you're talking about or have incredibly shit pc. im guessing a combination of all three?

>>4714198
>t. doesnt play rareware games

>>4704924
I remember this was supposed to be a big deal:

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/nintendo-64-vulkan-low-level-emulator-parallel-pre-alpha-release/

Then nothing came of it

Maybe when the cycle accurate N64 emulator is closed to finish, some group will fork it and use as many speed ups as needed. Or not.

>>4714146

What to do about the analog sticks wearing down?

>>4705238
Or just buy the fucking game its like 11 dollars