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4700750 No.4700750 [Reply] [Original]

>What games are you playing?
>Which controller are you using?

I'm running the Mega Man series right now and I'm using the Classic Pro controller that I bought recently. I was worried about the fact that it has to connect to the Wiimote, but it's actually not a problem at all. And I don't feel any added input lag when playing on my CRT. It's pretty great when you want that D-Pad since the one in the GameCube controller is very small and uncomfortable.

Mega Man II is still my favorite.

>> No.4700756

>>4700750
I'm trying to get to get far in Donkey Kong on MAME, just like Billy Mitchell.

>> No.4700764

>>4700756
What controller are you using? I feel like I should play Arcade games always with a JoyStick, even though the D-Pad feels better for the older titles.

It would be great if there was an Arcade controller for the Wii. I know there is one for the GameCube, but I've never seen it on the wild ever.

>> No.4700772

>>4700750
>best emulation machine
>not a PC

>> No.4700781

>>4700750
I'm playing Castlevania IV
> on my XBOX 360

>> No.4700786

>>4700772
Modern PCs can't output to CRTs without lag-inducing adaptors.

>> No.4700794
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4700794

Wii is the best way to emulate at 240p on a CRT. Make sure to grab revision 60 Wiis since they have the sharpest video out, they are just about on par with gamecube. I have 7 revision 60 Wiis that I got for peanuts. Gonna flip most of em when the boom hits wii.

Also buy up them official component wires. They are starting to dry up and raise in price.

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>>4700772
Here we go again.

>> No.4700805

>>4700786
>>4700795

I suffer no lag playing my emulated games. Maybe you should get a better rig.

>> No.4700807

>>4700764
A GameCube controller. I like and it beats the Wiimote. The analog knob on it does the trick just fine, but it's never going to be as accurate as the arcade stick.

>arcade controller for GameCube
Well, X-Arcade made an adapter for the GC, but I'm not sure if it works on the GC part of a first generation Wii, but if there's one for the GC, maybe it works for the GC-capable Wii as well?

https://shop.xgaming.com/collections/adapters/products/x-arcade-adapter-5-game-systems

I got a "Tankstick" myself and a GameCube adapter and they're quality items. Hope that helps, anon.

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4700809

Why is it whenever I try to load a save using snes9xgx, it always, without question, brings me back to the very beginning of the game as if I'd just hit a reset button?

What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>> No.4700810

>>4700781
I love the soundtrack of that game. Truth be told, the Castlevania series has always had great music.

>> No.4700816

>>4700750
>Wii: The Best Emulation Machine
Are you kidding? I was using Snes9x and the lag was terrible.

>> No.4700818

>>4700810
After LOS, they went full shit
> But not retro, I know

>> No.4700820

>>4700816
Try a CRT.

>> No.4700827

>>4700807
Thanks. I wanted to try it on Arcade and NeoGeo games from the Virtual Console.

>> No.4700832

>>4700816
>Snes9x and the lag was terrible

What kind of TV? I detect no lag when playing on a CRT.

>>4700809
>What the fuck am I doing wrong?
Maybe it's that you're using 4.3.7. I'm using 4.3.2 and it loads at the correct place every time, just checked it.

>> No.4700834

>>4700816
>>4700820

Use a wired controller

>> No.4700840

>>4700827
No problem.
I'm not sure if it will do VC, but it should. I'd send them an e-mail. They're always been very helpful and when one item failed to do something, they promptly sent a replacement without a hassle and even told me to keep the old PCB which is still useful. Good luck and have fun, maybe come back and let people know if/how it worked later on.

>> No.4700863

today i played some super mario kart with my red CC Pro. Haven't had any issues with any emulator yet, really good machine.

>> No.4700872

can anyone explain why wii is so great for emulation? is it because computers dont have component output? can't you just get a video card with that?

>> No.4700886

>>4700872
>Dirt cheap
>Can be gotten practically everywhere
>Easy to setup
>Vast amount of emulators and native GC support
>Decent size so it can be transported everywhere

Yes you can output video from a computer but where's the fun in that?

>> No.4700905

>>4700809
I'm not sure. I honestly never save to SRAM, I use the 'Snapshot" option.

>> No.4700908

>>4700872
It's mainly the native 240p output, which you couldn't get as easily from a computer or other consoles from the time.

It's also the most simple to hack and modify, and supports various input methods.

>> No.4700915

>>4700805
Yes you do, you just aren't familiar enough with real hardware on a CRT to notice

>> No.4700937
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>>4700750
I use a Red 25th anniversary Wii, and have a few controllers. I have the Classic controller pro I use for some games. I also LOVED that the SNES mini controller is compatable, and use it for the SNES emulation. It provides a very spot on experience. I use the wii-mote for Nes games. MMII is a great game. I also keep game cube controllers...obviously for GC games & a pair of Kongas for DK Jungle Beat (not retro!...but one is NIB)

I think the last title I played that was earthbound. I missed the SNES, as I had a sega genesis, and NES at the time, and was content with all of the games on the NES. I inherited an SNES in marriage, but gave it to my sister in law so her kids could literally destroy it. I keep meaning to play Chrono Cross. I have NEVER played it. EVER.

Get yourself some of the Snes & Nes mini controllers. They work with the wii. They are officially licensed as an added bonus. I enjoy them & it is nice to get something new & made by Nintendo. I know it will last for a few decades before It needs cleaned

>>4700772
>best emulation machine
Yes, if you want 240p on a CRT. A computer works great if you want to play on a HD display. If you have a SD CRT, I honestly think the wii is outstanding.

I hated the Wii for years. When my kids grew out of it, I made it mine, and it became my SNES/NES emulator for my CRT. It is highly underrated for its purpose.

>>4700805
>I suffer no lag playing my emulated games.
It is most important that you are happy with what you are doing, now what one of us faggots tell you....How do you output your PC to your Standard Definition CRT without lag @ 240p? I would like you to explain it so I can understand it better.

.>>4700872
>can anyone explain why wii is so great for emulation?
Native 240p output to a CRT. It is not so simple to get this sort of output from a PC & seems to require additional hardware. Basically a wii is as close to the authentic experience you will get via emulation

>> No.4700986

>>4700937
How "very spot on" is the SNES mini controller (and NES mini controller)? I was actually looking into buying one for the SNES emulation, but I don't know if it will really make a difference since I already have the Classic Pro controller. I mean, how's the D-Pad?

Original controllers, of course. I get temped by the cheap prices of China, but I've never heard anything good about them.

>> No.4701007

>Authentic experience
>On a Wii
You faggot are completely delusional
Any PC with a CRT monitor and shaders can look and run better than your gimped emulation box

>> No.4701021

>>4700986
>I mean, how's the D-Pad?
It is identical in shape and dimensions to SNES controller. The button presses feel authentic. I had a cheap chinese knock off SNES Wii controller years ago when I used VC games, and it died in short order. I haven't touched a legit SNES controller in over 10 years, but the SNES mini version feels totally authentic to me.

If you are happy with the Pro-controller, no sense in dumping money on a non-issue. I got it brand new for $25 from some games dealer on ebay. I just like OEM controllers. ALL of them hold up better then 3rd party.

>>4701007
>Any PC with a CRT monitor and shaders can look and run better than your gimped emulation box
Listen up you illiterate fucktard. The exact parameters of the conversation are as follows:

>Wii
>SD CRT TV
>Games
>Controllers

No one is saying that it does not run well on a PC MONITOR with a PC. You are presenting points that are no part of the conversation. No one gives a fuck about your PC or your monitor.

>> No.4701028

>>4701021
Don't pretend you are having an authentic experience emulating on a fucking Wii
God you are so fucking retarded

>> No.4701035
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4701035

>>4700816
>>4701007
>>4701028
Stop shitposting. This thread is about Wii emulation.

>> No.4701053

>>4701028
Not that anon, but dude, take a powder. With your logic the only authentic experience is the arcade. What you don't seem to appreciate is that with minor and minuscule differences, emulating on a Wii does feel very authentic, so much so that I frequently forget that many games are being emulated. It helps if the Wii is set away from the TV, but it looks feels fantastic. NES games especially are difficult if not impossible to discern from the ROM on the original cartridge via the NES.

If you like your PC emulating, great; I did PC emulating for a long time and I got tired of it and wanted a simpler all-in-one experience.

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>>4701028
>Don't pretend you are having an authentic experience emulating on a fucking Wii
I never said it was authentic. I specifically said:

>as close to the authentic experience you will get via emulation

I chose my words very carefully. In a way it was to bait out illiterate hipstards like you. You cannot output from a PC @ 240p without adding latency inducing hardware. You further reaffirmed what I said by talking about shaders and other such pc-centric bullshit.

I respect that you emulate on a PC with a HD monitor, and don't doubt that you enjoy the experience. Just because you have an opinion, does not mean others share it....Especially when it has nothing to do with op's topic. I had a pentium PC in the mid 90s that could emulate on a monitor. You are not telling me or anyone else here something we don't know.

I will refuse to address this again. Learn to read, learn some manners and make your own post if you want to talk about PC emulation on a High def monitor.

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>>4701065
>that pic

In thread related , in the future I think a test of who can spot the emulated vs. original hardware will have to happen.

>> No.4701125

>>4700937

Why would anyone want a CRT in 2018? There is no reason to use a wii for anything including emulation

>> No.4701127

>>4700915
No. I don't. There is no lag that is anywhere visibly or remotely noticeable.

>> No.4701137

>>4701125
>hurr tube TVs are useless
>Wii's are bad Wii thread people

Now you can't feign ignorance, we know you're trolling.

>> No.4701146

>>4701137
What's to be ignorant about? The wii was a shit console back then and meaningless now and so are CRTs except for like playing Smash or some meme pvp. For emulators you'll be fine just running software on a 2009 rig unless you want PS2 and up emulation.

>> No.4701148

I've switched back and forth between bloodlines on my genesis and it running on my wii via emulation. Its so close I don't think I could tell them apart outside of the controller I'm holding

>> No.4701151

>>4701146
Why even come in this thread? If by even post here?

>> No.4701153

>>4701146
>What's to be ignorant about?
Do me a favor. Instead of trolling/derailing, go ask your questions about CRTs here:
>>4697058
No one cares about your off topic antics. I will begin to report you if you keep acting like an entitled snowflake.

>> No.4701157

>>4701146
>I'm mad that I paid $500 dollars for a high-end graphics card to play a few games on my PC and now that I migrated to emulating older consoles I'm pissed that my PC was a waste of money compared to the Wii, the post

>>4701148
That angers the PCfag.

>> No.4701161

>>4701151
Why not? Title said best emulation machine and I completely disagree. You were expecting a circle jerk?

>>4701153
I don't have questions about CRTs because they are useless. Check the threat title cause OP obviously wanted this. Also advertising you reporting people is against the rules.

>>4701157
>implying

I'm quite content with my purchase because I can play old and new games on a decent and humble rig. I don't have to go out of my way to lug around 40 pound class tubes called monitors to run scanline games at 240x190 resolution like if Betamax was in style I'm clinging to the 70s.

>> No.4701164

>>4700809
Save a snapshot my dude.

>> No.4701165

>>4701161
>muh humble rig

No one cares about your "rig", Trucker Joe-Bob. This is a Wii thread. Verstehe?

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4701168

>>4701161
Point taken. You may go now.

>> No.4701170

>>4701161
>CRTs are useless

Just report that dummy.

>> No.4701174

>>4701161

>40lbs are too much for my girly arms
>stop being strong and happy guise

>> No.4701179

>>4701165
>op
>The best emulation machine

I doubt the wii can run PS3 or PS4 titles and it was made to compete with the former at its release, but my machine can no problem. Enjoy your purchase.

>>4701174
>doesn't hit the gym to stay fit
>embarrassingly displays his manchild hobby by carrying around old TVs just to play a videogame casually.

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4701180

>>4701157
not that guy but in that scenario he'd be making a profit

>> No.4701181

>>4701161
It is the best emulation machine for a crt and you have yet to refute that

>> No.4701187

>>4701181

>Best emulation machine

No, friend. There is nothing to refute. I am sorry you bought a wii.

>> No.4701192

>>4701179
I don't give a shit about emulating PS3 or PS4 and I'd be retarded to expect a Wii to ever be capable of such things unless emulation takes giant leaps forward that are also retroactive, which is doubtful.

>muh gym

Now you're not even trying. Don't whine if you get banned. I feel dirty replying to you.

>> No.4701195

Use the Wii pro because you can't navigate the damn menus with a gamecube controller.

Unpopular opinion here, though, the gamecube controller isn't even that great. I just would rather use it because its a normal wired controller and not hanging off the wiimote like some sort of mutant.

>> No.4701202

>>4701192
>muh safe space

Not my fault you must fervently defend the wii. I'm sorry your little irrelevant console can't emulate as wonderfully as the beast that is PCs. Just deal with it.

>> No.4701206

>>4701187
You left out the back half of that statement.

>for a crt

>> No.4701210

>>4701195
GameCube controller blows

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4701214

>>4701206

You have my condolences

>> No.4701218

What an utter faggot.

Anyway, we should post pics of our emulators/ emulator screen on our Wiis.

>> No.4701223

>>4701214
That's nice and all but what does that have to do with my post, you know the one you replied too and misrepresented?

>> No.4701231
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4701231

>>4701195
thank god for adapters

the gamecube controller is ass for anything but the handful of games designed around it, none of which are /vr/ so fuck em

>> No.4701239

>>4701223

Sorry but I am not talking about irrelevant CRTs. >>4701161 I've already addressed the statement and it had nothing to do with you.

>> No.4701243

I'm fine with the wii pro controller for everything but fighting games. How can I get a genesis or saturn pad going with my wii?

>> No.4701245
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4701245

Post your Wii.

>> No.4701250

>>4701127
to you

>> No.4701253

>>4701243
I also love the Genesis' D-Pad. Have a look here:
>retrorgb.com/wiiadapter.html
It seems Raphnet adapter is the most popular option, but it's like 30 bucks or something.

>> No.4701257

>>4701239
You replied to my post, miss qouted me, and now say it has nothing to do with me? Your lack of argument is really profound.

Show me a single modern TV for any cost that can display retro games as good as my free CRT. Not to even mention how clear motion looks on a crt and how much more input lag modern screens have.

Regurdless though, my statement was the wii is the best emulation device for a crt and you still all this time later have yet to put up a single talking point for the contrary

>> No.4701259

>>4701257

It never involved you. The OP says it all and I am sorry you feel left out.

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>>4701192
>Now you're not even trying
If you stop feeding the trolls, they will go away. Guaranteed.

>>4701195
>Unpopular opinion here
You are in the right place, and among friends. I don't like the GC controller. It works great for gamecube, but wouldn't use it for any emulations. I only have a 2x GC games I enjoyed, and half of them use the bongos. I still keep the gc controller for Mario Strikers.

>>4701210
>GameCube controller blows
I am not a fan either.

>>4701218
>emulator screen on our Wiis.
pic related.

>> No.4701261

>>4701259
You replied to my post and moss quoted me. If it never involved me why did you quote me?

>> No.4701262

>>4701261
>If it never involved me why did you quote me?
They were trying to insult me, but their wonderful computer did not format correctly.

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>>4701245
It looks so much better in person, but I'll post my Wii emulation screens:

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4701268

>>4701265
and

I never got Wiiengine to work, but Retroarch running PCEfast covers it. And yeah, Saturn emulation is shitty, don't bother.

>> No.4701269

>>4701262

No I formatted well he's just upset he has no part of this other than to want to be heard.

>> No.4701278

>>4701265
>>4701268
How big is you storage, my dude?

>> No.4701283

>>4701265
>It looks so much better in person
My camera sucks, and introduces visuals that are not real as well. I guarantee that it looks great. Better then it would on an LCD. At the moment, I only have SNES on my system. A few weeks back I finally got around to adding USB support for Wii & GC backups, and got a new SD card. I did not put most of them back on. I am now using a 256gb flash drive in the USB and a 32gb SDHC in the front.

I don't emulate the N64 on the wii, mainly because I have a an N64.

>> No.4701284

>>4701278
Kingston 32GB SD (which is really 28.9 usable) with 8.58GB free.

>> No.4701293

So what are the best emulators for each system on wii, I want stuff that can do 240p output. Also I'd rather install them as a channel then booting them from the home brew menu every time. How can I do that?

>> No.4701306

>>4700786
Yeah they can, with a transcoder, and with retroarch hard gpu sync they have significantly less input lag than other devices. On top of that - with the new features they're testing it has even less lag than actual hardware.
>>4700872
It's cheap and does 240p, so it's a great entry level choice.
>can't you just get a video card with that?
Not really, but VGA output on ATI cards can easily be transcoded to Component.
>>4701125
>Why would anyone want a CRT in 2018?
-No motion blur
-Better colour
-Better contrast
-Can display black
-No input lag
-No native resolution so it doesn't have to upscale (upscaling must be filtered which means a disgusting blurred image)
All of these are important for retro games. Modern shaders are good but there's still way too many flaws in flat panel tech. The only thing they do better than CRT's when it comes to image quality is geometry and convergeance.
>>4701265
>It looks so much better in person
I hope so, looks like you're using composite in those shots. You're not actually using composite are you anon?

>> No.4701308

Wii is mega not accurate
if you're a CRT fag just grab the fuckin real super nintendo, copies of mario world dkc and mario kart and call it a goddamn day
i mean we have multi / flash carts now whats your excuse

>> No.4701309

>>4701283
Sounds really nice.
I fully empathize as I'm in the market for a better camera too for mostly this reason. I suggest getting Mupen64 for Wii and not to bother with Wii 64 for anyone, but yeah, I got a real N64 too and if I want to play Turok, I'll play it for real so it looks perfect. If it's got glitches in emulation that are major, I don't bother.

So far I haven't gotten into GC backups, but I heard it's gotten pretty good with the occasional glitch upon loading. Like Luigi's Mansion has minor issues, people are showing.

>256GB flash drive
Do you think you'll ever use all that space? Just curious.

>> No.4701313

Quick related question...

I have my Wii an CRT using component cable, console is set as 480 resolution, so...

Does it automatically play Gamecube games at 480 or do i need to hold down the B button to select it?

>> No.4701315

>>4701293
Not every emulator has a Channel for installation, but if it's available they'll list it as an option.
wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_emulators

I stick to my favorite consoles:
HUGO for PC Engine.
FCE Ultra GX for NES.
Snes9x GX for SNES.
Genesis Plus for pretty much anything SEGA from Genesis and before.
VC for heavier titles (NeoGeo, Arcade and N64).

WAD Manager 1.8 is the easiest way to install Channels (WAD files). It's in german, but I'm sure you can figure out the instructions, and if not you can always watch a video of 1.7 in action.
gbatemp.net/threads/wad-manager-1-8.285756/

Cheers.

>> No.4701320

>>4701306
>You're not actually using composite

...yes I am. It looks great in person and the TV only has the RF screw inputs, so for that TV it's not only composite to RF, first it's going though an RF modulator, and no, there is no lag.

What would you suggest for that TV? I don't think that one can do better. I do have other CRTs with everything on them, RGB, S-Video, Component; etc. It's just not convenient for me at this time to use the other better and larger CRTs.

>> No.4701324

>>4701306

Ah see now that's a reasonable list of things to consider when arguing for CRTs. Though I don't recall having my flatscreen not display black (probably not the absolute value of black), idk about input lag, and can you give me a visual demonstration of motion blurr? Not once experienced what that ever looked like.

>> No.4701326

>>4701315
Thanks my dude, what about mednafen? See it recommended alot. I mostly use real hardwear but for stuff I can't get I emulate

>> No.4701331

>>4701313
The game should prompt you at the start if you want to use progressive mode.

But I don't think your CRT will accept 480p anyway.

>> No.4701342

>>4701293
>I'd rather install them as a channel

You can do that too by downloading them from the Homebrew Browser (they're before the emulators). Some of them don't work, my NES channel at first didn't work and then mysteriously began working a week ago. I tend to use only the NES Channel, but that's just me.

>> No.4701352

>>4701326
I wouldn't know. It's quite more complicated to set it up, hence why I haven't bothered to touch it. Maybe some other Anons can tell you about it.

It is supposedly better, as in faster and more accurate.

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>>4701309
>but I heard it's gotten pretty good with the occasional glitch upon loading.
I load GC games from the 32gb flash drive. I have not had one single issue with any of them. I was quite impressed actually. Like I mentioned earlier, I only have 2 games I enjoy, and that was SM Strikers and DK Jungle beat. Neither give me issue.

>>4701309
>Do you think you'll ever use all that space? Just curious.
Not at all. I have LOTS of games that nintendo keeps out of the usual places, so I was able to back them up and never have to worry about loading discs ever again. Most of them I never play aside from Smash Brothers. I think a 128gb would do what I needed, but I enjoy knowing that if I ever get bored of it I still have an incredibly large USB flash drive. I went with USB because it was cheaper then a 120gb SSD in an external case. I did not want massive power draw from my external.

My tv uses component video, but is a SD tv. It was a perfect thrift shop find about 2 years ago. It fits my needs perfectly.

>>4701324
>Not once experienced what that ever looked like.
If you never used lots of CRTs, you may never notice. Basically look at your computer monitors "black to black" time in milliseconds. Most are in the 5-20ms range. It is more noticeable the higher the number. I still prefer a GDM-Fw900 for my PC, because LCDs give me a headache. I finally decided to try one of these 144hz LCDs, and I am not impressed. I have been spoiled by decades of my GDM giving me true 100+hz refresh rates. A good LCD is close to a good CRT, but a Professional CRT will blow the door off of any LCD.


>>4701313
>Does it automatically play Gamecube games at 480
It should default to 480i, but most likely wont do 480p

>>4701331
>But I don't think your CRT will accept 480p anyway.
at higher MS ranges.

My crt is a Samsung Tx-r2035 which accepts component, composite and Svideo. It still only displays at max 480i. It is just a SD tv with fancy inputs.

>> No.4701360

>>4701320
It fine really. People over exaggerate how bad composite is, but at the end of the day composite on a cheap CRT is totally fine.

It's just that people that use Component and RGB are videophiles. Including myself.

>> No.4701365

>>4701326
Mednafen is good for PC engine/Supergrafx emulation. Retroarch runs a core for it. Hugo sucks and I keep it just for old times and to keep somewhat of a record of emulation improvements.

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4701373

>>4701360
>People over exaggerate how bad composite is
The difference in quality from Svideo to composite is enough of a reason to use it however.

>> No.4701379

>>4700809
do you have save/load/reset all mapped to the same hotkey?

>> No.4701386

>>4701379
Not that anon, but with a GC controller pushing left on the C-controls brings up the menus.

>> No.4701389

>>4701373
Indeed. I actually believe S-Video is the ideal way to play games. Some dithering artifacts truly make me mad.

Silent Hill for example. The PlayStation uses that technique quite often since it can't do alpha transparency.

>> No.4701436

>>4701360
Yeah, admittedly I've been lazy with my video games regarding their presentation, but I do get that way still when I want to watch a movie. Not that I use it much because it's not the best, but that reminds me how handy it is that the Wii can also play DVDs.

>>4701359
>thriftshop TV fitting needs perfectly

That angers the fanboy-PC gamer. As smug as we may sound, I feel good knowing that I'm not alone in appreciating the Wii for it's great emulation. *salute*

>> No.4701439

*its
I wonder if I should even bother with a WiiU. Isn't it only moderately more powerful than a Wii?

>> No.4701445

>>4701439
It's much more powerful than a Wii, but it can't output 240p. I have one, but I don't use it to play anything other than actual Wii U games (which are being ported to the Switch as we speak).

>> No.4701450

>>4701445
Ah. Thanks. I'll pass I guess unless I see one dirt cheap and have my eyes on a new game.

>> No.4701474
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4701474

>>4701436
>That angers the fanboy-PC gamer.
I got that TV, and realized that it is a total rarity. For $20....It has HD inputs but is Standard Definition. I knew how good it was when I saw it. Heres the big joke of it all, I was a "PC" master race. I still am, but I havn't upgraded my computer except for the GPU in almost a decade. Still using an old quad core phenom II/8gb ram. It still runs all of the games I enjoy (shadows of chernobyl/Dark Souls) & it runs them well. I won't upgrade untill they provide me with a good reason. I "retro game" because I enjoy collecting oddities.

EVERY one of my systems is setup to play every game of that system. Imagine having that sort of library. I don't have a ps2, but I can't think of one game that was on it that wasn't on the Xbox. I did not like the FF series on the PS2, so no reason to move forward. My 64 uses flash cart, and my PSX uses a modded gameshark using Unirom. My wii & xbox are HEAVILY modded. Xbox has 250gb hdd, and wii has a 256 flash drive.

I can't wait for the Xbox to be "retro"...So I can come in here and post cool pictures of my paint job and the minor external mods I did to it.

>> No.4701481

>>4701359
>If you never used lots of CRTs, you may never notice. Basically look at your computer monitors "black to black" time in milliseconds. Most are in the 5-20ms range. It is more noticeable the higher the number. I still prefer a GDM-Fw900 for my PC, because LCDs give me a headache. I finally decided to try one of these 144hz LCDs, and I am not impressed. I have been spoiled by decades of my GDM giving me true 100+hz refresh rates. A good LCD is close to a good CRT, but a Professional CRT will blow the door off of any LCD.

I'd say half and half. born in 84 so I don't really see a discernible difference between flatscreens and CRTs besides brightness, resolution, and definition.

>> No.4701493

>>4700794
what is a "revision 60" wii? I have a launch model, I take it that's not one of them?

>> No.4701551

>>4701493
Look inside the battery port and you'll see the revision number in the main board. Early wiis has not great analog video out. Starting with version 49 they improved it with version 60 being the cleanest video out. 60s are just about if not as good as a gamecube

>> No.4701570

>>4700756
does mame work well

>> No.4701571

>>4701551

Is there any other way than opening the stupid thing? How big of a difference can it be?

>> No.4701576

>>4701268
wat works and wat dosent thinking of picking up a wii

>> No.4701586
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4701586

>>4701571
It's really not that big of a deal to get into the battery compartment. If you're okay with the picture you're getting now, you probably won't benefit a lot from the newer models. There are also (relatively minor) heat and power draw reductions in the new units if that influences your choice.

>> No.4701592

>>4701570
Yes, as long as you run the MAME2000 core through Retrorach. Regular MAME is hit and miss and will not do most games well. What I do is run CPS1 and CPS2 cores and MAME2000 cores and I can get all the older favorites running well to perfectly.
Selecting the cores is fairly easy through Retroarch, but you will have to download MAME2000 yourself.

tl;dr: to play Pac-Man-Street Fighter II, regular MAME will almost work, but go to Retroarch to run MAME cores for higher performance.

>> No.4701594

>>4701493
>>4701571
should mention, if you have a launch model you definitely don't have an RVL-CPU-60 board. depending on how much you've used the thing, you might want to change the battery anyway since it's going on 12 years old this year.

>> No.4701597

>>4701586
Oh well in that case I might check that out sometime. I appreciate the information in any case, thanks for being helpful, anon.

>> No.4701602

>>4701592
could u make a zip file with emulators setup.

>> No.4701604

>>4701586
Are 25th Anniversary red models guaranteed to be over 60?

>> No.4701606

>>4701571
I've compared both, I think it's noticeablely sharper. You can get wiis dirt cheap, most black wiis with gamecube ports are gonna be Rev 60s

>> No.4701607
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4701607

>>4701604
>Are 25th Anniversary red models guaranteed to be over 60?
You must be a mind reader, because I was just posting this up.....

>> No.4701612

>>4701604
>>4701607
Yes but really just pull the battery and check

>> No.4701625
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4701625

>>4701612
>Yes but really just pull the battery and check
Red-wii poster again (the one with the photo)

I think you said it best earlier. If you are happy with your video quality, there is no need to fiddle....I am pondering buying another wii just because of how useful these little things are. They are a nice gap between HD and SD gaming, and for 240p content, I don't think there is a better choice for emulation on SD tvs. I would never get one that did not have Gamecube ports....Only because I am crazy about DK Jungle beat. It is just an insanely good game....BUT only on the game cube.

I wish they made a wireless bongo set as good as the wavebird.

>> No.4701627

>>4701576
What works:
>NES, SEGA Genesis, SEGA CD, all work perfectly.
>SNES has an occasional audio stutter, but usually seems perfect.
>Game Boy/ColorAdvance all work (advance is imperfect)
>Intellivision works perfectly, but you'll need to hunt down a system image file.
>SEGA Master System is perfect.
>MAME via Retroarch core perfect for most games 1975-1992ish.
>Commodore 64 is pretty good
>Atari 2600, 5200, and 7800 are all perfect.
>Colecovision is perfect.
>PC-Engine/SuperGrafx games are perfect as
>CD too
>Amiga works too.
>N64 suck on Wii64, just passage to decent with Mupen64

What does not work:
>DS doesn't work well.
>Saturn does not work at all.
>PSX games usually do not work, but some good ones do work

>> No.4701630

>>4701604
>>4701607
Black, Blue and Red are 40+. As long as it has GameCube ports, check inside the battery compartment. I'm not sure how big the difference is in terms of picture quality between 40s and 60s, and I can't find any videos about the difference. There used to be one demonstrating the difference between launch models and newer revisions in terms of GameCube load speed, but it disappeared.

>> No.4701636

>>4701602
They're not that hard to do, anon. Once you've hacked your Wii, you just download the emulators onto your Wii through the Homebrew Browser. Plus I heard they're SD card specific. Not sure about that. Someone else probably knows.

I can give tips on where to put stuff, though. (and the incoming jokes..)

>> No.4701643

>>4701602
Don't be lazy.

>> No.4701646

>>4701627
>N64 suck on Wii64
I have been secretly hoping that the N64 mini unlocks the secrets of the n64 so it gets much better emulation. It is lots like the Xbox in the sense that it hasn't been fully understood. Granted, I am just an end user with some photoshop skills, but I do appreciate all the work that these people do for the "scene". I benefit from their work. I keep meaning to paypal that USBloaderGX creator a cool $20.

>>4701630
>GameCube load speed
At the point we are at, there is no excuse to not load games from SD cards.

>>4701636
>I heard they're SD card specific
I think it matters more that the SD card is formatted as Fat32. I know for using the rear USB there is reports that ONLY pny & sandisk have had good results for USB Flash. I have only ever used these brands, but I never tested, and am just regurgitating what someone on another forum posted. (https://gbatemp.net/threads/usb-loader-gx.149922/))

>>4701636
>I can give tips on where to put stuff
Just the tip please.

>> No.4701654

>>4701646
Mm hmm N64 was complicated, so naturally the emulation process wouldn't be any different. (I don't know jack about X-Box outside of playing Halo 1 years ago.)

>N64 Mini
Franky, I don't know if I want to admire Nintendo or be angry at them. If the emulation platform is different and better than the NES/SNES hardware, great, but they better make more than a dozen of 'em. Is that thing even happening?

>gibs to da codebrudders
Yeah, donating to the likes of them is definitely a good thing to do it's what's right and encouragement makes the world go 'round.

>> No.4701660

>>4701627
You can also play gamecube backups with a softmodded wii (nintendont)

>> No.4701667

>>4701660
I was out of the loop for a while. I had no idea Nintendont was a thing. I'm so glad.

The Wii backlog keeps on growing.

>> No.4701695

>>4701654
>Is that thing even happening?
I can't imagine it won't....But how and when? as you said it is more complex then anything before it. IF they do, it will either be scaled down hardware or will prove how to emulate much better then what we already have.

>>4701667
>I had no idea Nintendont was a thing
My wii is set to boot into USBloaderGX, and it shows all games I have saved, including GC. You can start boot from USBloader, which boots the games with nintendont. It is GREAT. I have no other way to describe it. Perhaps FANTASTIC. Knowing that my wii reliably plays all nintendo games from Snes, nes, gc & wii without issue, and with controllers that look and feel original really makes it a great system. (nintendo mini & snes mini controllers plug into wiimote).

>> No.4701705

>>4700750
>Mega Man II is still my favorite.
t.casual. enjoy playing your pirated games, brad

>> No.4701713

>>4701705
OP here. To be fair, it is the easiest one imo. That's probably one of the reasons.

Also I really like the music and presentation. I never get tired of watching the opening sequence and then letting the title screen loop back. Good times.

>> No.4701748

>>4701627
>SNES has an occasional audio stutter, but usually seems perfect.

It's worth noting that the SNES Virtual Console is probably a better way to play SNES on the Wii, and it's generally pretty compatible with injected ROMs. I got it to run Starfox 2 just as well as the SNES Classic does.

>> No.4701845
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4701845

>>4701474
What kind of flash drive do you use for your wii? USB Loader doesn't seem to work with my larger flash drive.

>> No.4701864
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4701864

>>4701845
>What kind of flash drive do you use for your wii? USB Loader doesn't seem to work with my larger flash drive.
Sandisk Cruzer glide 3.0
UPC:
619659146832

Notes at the bottom of this GIGANTIC card tell me that it is western digital product. This is just the package that was shipped to me.
I have the drive formatted to fat32 & used Wii Backup Manager to accomplish this.

>> No.4701916

Seems like the best place to ask, I'd like to use my SNES mini controller through my Wii without having to plug it into a Wiimote. Are there any decent Wii accessory to Gamecube adapters out there?

>> No.4701937

>>4700750
how can I use a pal wii to output 480p/576p over component?

>> No.4701939 [DELETED] 

>>4701250
>I’ve measured lag that is undetectable by the human senses to justify my 30 year old television and Nintendo toaster being superior
Neck yourself you stupid prick

>> No.4701946

>>4701864
Thanks, It is strange to me that some drives just don't work well with USBloaderGX but oh well.

>> No.4701950

>>4701946
>It is strange to me that some drives just don't work well with USBloader
I thought so also. I had no issue with a 16gb PNY that has to be 4 years old now. I think I had stated it earlier, after speaking with others they confirmed that best luck was with PNY & Sandisk which are the only 2 brands of flash drive I buy. I may be a fanboy, but I have never had either brand fail on me ever.

>> No.4701956

>>4700937
>Get yourself some of the Snes mini controllers.
I thought they aren't sold individually.
>>4701439
>no 240p
>limited RGB-range
>forced 16:9
>>4701551
>Starting with version 49 they improved it with version 60 being the cleanest video out.
40 and 60 are identical except for changes in the power-system, check the revision-guide here: https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-definitive-wii-trimming-guide.198/
>>4701571
>Is there any other way than opening the stupid thing?
it's one screw.
>>4701748
too bad many games don't work with the inject-method (e.g. terranigma)
>>4701916
0 (zero)

>> No.4701959

>>4701956
bah, wrong link: https://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/shanks-wii-super-thread.66/

>> No.4701961
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4701961

>>4701950
Yeah I tried using a 128gb Sandisk drive but I cant get games to load off of it, so instead i use two 32gb Sandisk drives; one for my wii games and one for my gamecube games but I need more space for all them classic ninty games.

>> No.4701981

>>4701956
>I thought they aren't sold individually.
A seller on ebay was selling them brand new and separate from the systems. No box, but twist ties were included. Should I have bought 2? I literally know nothing about the snes mini, as it seems redundant. My wii did all the same things for years.

>>4701961
>Yeah I tried using a 128gb Sandisk drive but I cant get games to load off of it.

Is it a formatting issue? Does the system see that games are on it or no? If no, then it is possible that there is another issue. Do you use Wii backup manager?

>> No.4701987

>>4701981
I format to fat32 and the games show up but they never load, I don't know what else the problem could be since they play perfectly on my 32gb drives, but no I haven't used Wii backup manger yet, I just got my wii a couple of weeks ago, I hated the wii when it released back in the day.

>> No.4702006

>>4701987
>I hated the wii when it released back in the day.
I did too. Only when my kids let it sit around and collect dust did I start to fiddle with it. I am honestly shocked at how useful it is when modded. IF you got it to work with a smaller drive, you seem to know whats up, but I would use wii backup manager to format the drive.

There is another program which is older that converts games, but it is not very good. I can't remember what it was called, and my backup drive shit the bed 2 weeks ago which was basically my "vault". I lost every copy of every game I have ever owned & every program I ever used to modify video game system...Biggest loss was clear instructions I wrote to mod an xbox with corresponding softwares....but thankfully all the games are on the system.

>> No.4702012

Man these wii emulation threads are becoming the new Doom threads in terms of always having one up and being explosively active.

>> No.4702023
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4702023

>>4702006
I can't imagine having kids despite being engaged, it seems like a pain and a time sink. Seems like most people my age have a few them though. I'll try wii backup manger on my 128gb drive though, thanks for replying m8.

>> No.4702029

>>4702023
>I can't imagine having kids despite being engaged
Mine are old enough that they couldn't care less about the wii. They are pc master race now and all have better PCs then me lol. Technically they both have better computers then me. Mine is more of a server/storage at this point. They couldn't give a fuck about how exciting Snes games are. Little pricks don't appreciate the past, but some day they will say "Oh, wouldn't it be nice to have a wii again to remember the old days" and BOOM, I will have this to present and offer it ONLY after they fight to the death for it.

Winner takes all.

honestly, they are wonderful, and enrich my life. Money and time are irrelevant, because we are all better with each other then without. My wife is just a boring bookworm, so none of this is exciting. When the weather is nice, we shoot guns so this is just a thing to do when we are really bored or out of ammo.

>> No.4702042

>>4702012
>Man these wii emulation threads are becoming the new Doom threads in terms of always having one up and being explosively active.
Because as a system, they output 240p and widescreen progressive. They negate the need for a SNES & NES mini and are more useful then any of the meme SuperNt garbage they keep spamming about. They are easy to modify, and play a whole lifetime of Nintendo games readily and without major issues. The amount of controllers you can use with one of these is bonkers. They are not the best at everything, but they are above average in most categories for what its capabilities are....and they are small.

The only down side is that there is no good N64 emulation.

It basically dethroned the modded Xbox, which has been returned to its place as a Halo2/Timesplitters murder simulator.

>> No.4702045
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>>4702029
Well your a far better parent than any of mine, hell i'd even say a better parent than most of the parents of the poor souls who come to this site. Keep up the good work anon!

>> No.4702056
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4702056

>>4702045
>Keep up the good work anon!
I just want them to be smarter and more successful then I am. If I can teach them how to think, and not what to think, they will be monsters & creators of their own destiny. The type of people that most hate really.... Thanks!

>> No.4702061

>>4702029
Oh shit I actually do have WBM and I just haven't used it to format yet,but I used other programs without any luck, but hopefully this will work.

>> No.4702069

>>4702061
>Oh shit I actually do have WBM and I just haven't used it to format yet,but I used other programs without any luck, but hopefully this will work.
You can use it to format the drive, then you can plug in a drive with games on it, and transfer them over all in the same program. the interface is somewhat wonky, but once you figure it out, it is pretty straight forward. No dragging and dropping or any windows related crap. Good luck!

>> No.4702072
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>>4702056
Very wise, most people are taught what to think, not how to think, this has been a problem for society for quite some time. Good on you, just make sure they read some philosophy and history and they should turn out quite well, and maybe even put your ass in a nice nursing home!

>> No.4702101

>>4701956
Power system can absolutely effect analog video quality

>> No.4702331
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4702331

>>4701245
as if people ever post OC on this site
>>4701284
really fucking ticks me off that 32gb flash and sd cards are just expensive enough to be annoying to buy but 16 are cheap as fuck. wish there was something in between

>> No.4702341

>>4702331
London?

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4702387

>>4701245

>> No.4702481

>>4701630
I've a 40 Black Wii my self, the difference is little to none, in picture quality they are on par.

"The 40 is the most significant change yet, and it also marks the last significant change to the wii motherboard before the mini. As a cost cutting measure, the board was redesigned to use only 4 layers. All non-voltage traces were moved to the visible surface layer, making trimming this board significantly easier. If you plan to make a battery powered portable and you plan to trim it, this is one of your best options."
source:

http://forums.modretro.com/index.php?threads/wii-board-revisions-guide.14059/

so getting a non white Wii with gamecube ports will get you almost 100% garanteed a 40+ motherboard revision

>> No.4702539

How can I get decent N64 emulation? Everything seems to be a buggy mess.

>> No.4702548

>>4702539
Homebrew N64 emulation is crap. I wouldn't bother with it at all.

You're better off playing the Virtual Console releases, or injecting your ROMs into them. There's a compatibility list around.

wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/VCInjections_Compatiblity_List

>> No.4702563

>>4702548
Wii64 has better compatibility than vc injections.

>> No.4702570

>>4700750
>>4700764
I can't really find a dpad that I like, have the classic and the classic pro, both oem. Plus I have the wavebird but it's not fast enough for dr mario and Tetris

>> No.4702594

>>4702563

Completely false. Wii64 is garbage, can barely play anything. Injections are also terrible with a very small handful of N64 games working. The Wii just isn't useful in this regard outside of the VC, just get an N64 or a PC.

>> No.4702627

>>4702594
There's a version of wii64 called no64 that plays a few titles perfectly. The only good games for the n64 were Mario Kart and Mario 64 anyway, so it's all you need

>> No.4702630

>>4701981
Here s a list of campatible cards...

http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/SD/SDHC_Card_Compatibility_Tests

>> No.4702631

>>4702627
Tell me which titles does it play "perfectly", and by "perfectly" meaning that I don't have to tinker the settings each time I want to play a different game.

Also, Mario Kart and Mario 64 are also available in the official Nintendo emulator, the Virtual Console. You might as well use that if all you ever intend to play are those two games.

>> No.4702646

>>4701956
>0 (zero)
You don't think the raphnet one is any good?

>> No.4702660

>>4702646

Even besides the raphnet one there's been about a dozen for the same purpose manufactured since the Wii launched. That guy's just clueless.

>> No.4702672

>>4702631
I just told you. Mario Kart and Mario 64. There's no other n64 games worth emulating anyway

>> No.4702675

>>4702660
none of them are good though

>> No.4702751

>>4702675
What problems do they have?

>> No.4702805

The wii would be better if you could get around the channel limit, it's annoying moving wads from your sd card to the console.

>> No.4702820

>>4700750
> wii
> best emulation machine
> im serious

so wrong.

>> No.4702850 [DELETED] 

>>4702820
>Anonymous 04/09/18(Mon)12:32:19 No.4702820>>4700750(You)(OP)
>> wii
>> best emulation machine
>> im serious
>
>so wrong.

>> No.4702876

>>4702101
oh please.

>> No.4703131

Did anyone get a 32x emulator on the wii yet.

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4703163

>>4703131

Not that I know of and I wish someone would since I don't have a 32x and a SW Arcade game anymore.

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4703168

>>4702820
>so wrong.
When viewed in context of using a 240p TV, I don't think there is a better way to emulate as much. If you know of a better unit, feel free to share your experience. Certainly there are many other methods, but overall the wii provides great support for various controllers and many generations of game systems at native resolutions. Is there a more powerful machine that outputs native 240p?

>>4703131
>Did anyone get a 32x emulator on the wii yet.
Nope. It doesn't look like there will be one either. Seems like something that the Xbox does that & the wii does not.

>> No.4703234

>>4702805

Install an emunand and you can have as many channels as you want.

>>4703131

The 32x is close to N64-tier emulation wise, aside from the Fusion emulator on PC very few can do it right. It was middling on the OG Xbox and it's godawful on the RPi.

>> No.4703293

I played G-Darius at nearly 15fps with the worst budget GC controller on the market. Or at least that's what I assume. The d-pad can't be this tiny/bad intentionally.

I need to find a decent Playstation controller to work with the system.

>> No.4703392
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4703392

>>4703234
>The 32x is close to N64-tier emulation wise
I don't miss mine. I had one, and it was a great entry level doom machine, but I don't think I used it for any other games. It may be a system that is simply best to collect for.

>>4703293
>I need to find a decent Playstation controller to work with the system.
Would an adapter from PSX to GC work? Pic related.

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4704019

>>4703392
>Would an adapter from PSX to GC work?
I don't see why not. There are many other possibilities too. Check out this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Rtma2-hnE

>> No.4704730

>>4704019
Did you just move into this house? Looks very empty.

>> No.4704858

>>yfw you have tried to mod your wii but it always goes wrong somehow

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>>4704858
>yfw
I won't lie. None of it made any sense to me. None of it still makes any sense, and I am somewhat shocked that I managed to get it all together and working. I did the first "mod" years ago so my kids could play snes/nes games. When they went PC master race on me, the thing was a dust trap for 2 years. Because I must tinker, I decided to see if I could get it to play backups. It is nearly impossible to find out if you have a good guide or not, as some are outdated.

I managed, but don't know how. I had no issue modding my Xbox. It makes sense. It is very close to a PC in nature. The wii is something different. IF you can find a good guide, and follow simple instructions, it is not too hard. Making sure you have the correct versions of the mod software is critical, which is where most of the disinfo comes from. Old videos use old versions. I think the biggest pain in the ass for me was getting nintendont working with an outdated version of USBloaderGx....but I didn't know that it was outdated.

>>4704019
Very crisp setup. I would tell you that it seem too empty, but it seems to work. I am in the process of renovating every room. My current setup looks Post Y2k, and I would like something more early-mid 90s. Yours seems to exist outside of any time period.

>> No.4704923

>>4704884
Wii softmod is easiest thing I have ever done.

>> No.4705170

>>4704923
>Wii softmod is easiest thing I have ever done.
It isn't hard. Finding the proper software and documentation is where the trick is. There are many ways to skin a cat. There are wrong ways also.

>> No.4705178

>>4705170
Is Google so hard to use? https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/hacking-guide/4-3-guide

>> No.4705218

>>4705178
Google gives a ton of results and not all works. I will try the one you posted

>> No.4705298

>>4705178
>Is Google so hard to use?
Yes. I use other search engines. And yes, They too are a pain in the dick because there is LOADS incorrect pages of information showing outdated software and videos. Search engines don't give you good information, they give you ALL information.

There is more "outdated" info then current info. The best site I found for current info AND an active user base is GBAtemp.

https://gbatemp.net/categories/nintendo-wii-discussions.104/

>>4705218
>Google gives a ton of results and not all works. I will try the one you posted
GBATemp has active users, and many of the admins are "developers" of the software that you may attempt to use. I had the most luck there.

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>>4704858
>>4704884
for realzzzz. I spent the last 3 weeks trying to get my wii to play games off an external harddrive. Every answer i was met with was you're a retard all you have to do is xyz and it'll work.

Not to mention everything was 130x more difficult since I'm working with a mac. Just when I thought I got shit to work I'd try loading up a new game and be hit with a different error.

I'm happy to say that everything is now working fully and completely. I only am running stuff that was in the virtual shop since I don't really like emulation unless it's some official release.

>> No.4706320

>>4705593
>I'm working with a mac
explains everthing

>> No.4706368

>>4706320
kek yea basically exactly responses like that

>> No.4706371

>>4700756
I have also taken an interest in Donkey Kong lately. I wonder what has set us off down this path at the same time?

Was it the threads on /v/ about Mitchell's scores being faked?

>> No.4706374

>>4700786
Well that statement is 100% wrong in every way

>Modern PCs can't output to CRTs
They can. You just... hook them up them. It's not an issue at all. I don't know why you think it is.
>without lag-inducing adaptors.
What adapter? No adapter needed. Are you talking about controller adapters? You don't need those either.

>> No.4706383

>>4706374
AMD 400 series/Nvidia 1000 series and newer GPUs no longer have any analogue output, you need to use a DisplayPort/HDMI/DVI digital to VGA converter dongle. Lag isn't a problem though

>> No.4706391

>>4706383
And 900 and 700 series do still have analog output. If you're saying a GTX 980 isn't a "modern" GPU you're absolutely stupid.

>> No.4706417

>>4706374
>I don't know why you think it is.
I should have been more clear, and you are correct. That line of conversation was specific about 240p 15khz resolution. I really wish I was more specific at times, but conversations get heated, and specific elements are forgotten, then users come in and pilpul the shit out of every part of the sentence.

I ran plenty of games from a pentium 2 laptop to a big-screen tv in the late 90s. It wasn't 240p, which is the main benefit of the wii. Some games have issues with 480i. I don't know how many, but it all depends on how they were written. I couldn't begin to guess how to get 240p output from a contemporary gpu. You may need a custom PC with a specific GPU to achieve this. The wii simplifies this by outputting this resolution

>>4706391
>900 and 700 series do still have analog output.
easily even through component video.
The ONLY reason I got a gtx 960 was because it offered DVI-A. My monitor does not support digital input. I doubt this card could offer 15khz/240p output however. Find a 240p test suite and see if it is working at that resolution and report back. I doubt it will, as it looks like that support vanished for nvidia with the introduction of the GT/GTX line.

If you are happy with 480i emulation, great on you. But the wii is hands down the most simple way to emulate 240p

http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/

>> No.4706423

>>4706417
>I couldn't begin to guess how to get 240p output from a contemporary gpu
It's been a little while since I did it, but I was able to create a 320x240@120hz modeline and run it on a GTX 960 using only Nvidia control panel. You should be able to do the same thing with xrandr in Linux. 240p@60hz modes shouldn't be any different to create.

I'd try it again right now but I have already screwed around enough with emulators tonight.

>> No.4706435

>>4706423
>I'd try it again right now but I have already screwed around enough with emulators tonight.

https://www.aussiearcade.com/showthread.php/87668-A-guide-to-connecting-your-Windows-PC-to-an-SD-CRT-TV-PVM-or-Arcade-Monitor

>> No.4706439

>>4706417
For nvidia 900 series and below, can just create a 240p 15kHz custom resolution with CRU, works fine.

If you've got an ATi/AMD 300 series or below you can use CRT Emudriver which gives more options including automatic switching for Groovymame and a few others for exact refresh rates per systen

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>>4706417
just using 970 + custom resolution set through CRU

>> No.4706468

doesn't the raspberry pi do native 240p via composite?

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>>4706435
I didn't really need a tutorial, but thanks.
Anyway, I tried it again with a 980 and of course it worked.

>> No.4706487

>>4706468
Yes, but
>composite

Wii does component and S-video or RGB too.

>> No.4706492

>>4706475
>But I've tried exactly that method, with one GPU and two (using a 980ti, a 580 and an old 8800GT), with and without an EDID dongle, and I cannot use the NVCP and/or CRU to set working 15kHz modelines. It seems to just work for some people. Unless I'm missing something, but no one ever seems to be able to tell me precisely what.

When setting a custom modeline in Nvidia control panel I use GTF timing. Automatic setting doesn't work.

>> No.4706503

>>4706492
May also need to set negative sync polarity if you're using a monitor/interface that cares.

>> No.4706721

What's the recommended place to download Wii ISO's?

>> No.4706830

>>4706721
also, wii's ports are usb 2.0, so buying a usb 3 stick is no use? what size stick does wii support?

>> No.4707271

>>4706464
>just using 970 + custom resolution set through CRU

I stand corrected.


I tried it with my 960 last night, and it seemed to work as well. This is "new" to me. I tried this in the past with older GTX 260 models, and was unable to get anything closer then 480i/p and don't know if this is a change. It is something that I have not tried in years, and this is great. Perhaps it was because I was using the "s-video" output from the GPU and not VGA.

What connection on your GPU do you use (I am assuming dvi-i) and how do you adapt to the SD 15khz monitor? Is this a "secondary" monitor?
This would explain why there is/was a market for devices that converted 480p to 240p.

For a console, the wii may be the last 240p system. It may not be the most powerful, but it certainly packs quite a bit of "features" into a very very small package. I think the thing I enjoy about the wii is that it has component video output and my SD tv accepts this as an input. Controllers work without adapters easily. The size of the unit is the biggest benefit. They might as well take up no space at all.

>>4706721
>What's the recommended place to download Wii ISO's?
I think that torrenting wii ISOs would be criminal, and you should ONLY create backups of software you own. (Read between the lines)

>>4706830
>wii's ports are usb 2.0, so buying a usb 3 stick is no use? what size stick does wii support?
USB 3.0 will interface with 2.0 with no issue. The issue with this is finding a flash drive that works. From what I read, most do not. I have tried 2 different flash drives and had no issues with either. One is an older 16gb PNY & the newer one is a 256gb Sandisk. There is much better support for external HDD, but they may need to be externally powered. I don't know squat about the power draw from the wii, but I don't think pulling too much from the usb is a great idea.

>> No.4707528

>>4706721

Darkumbra is the most active forum for them at this point, I'll still grab something from there occasionally. Try searching for torrents first though.

>>4707271

With hard drives, consult this list before you buy ANYTHING: https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/USB_Devices_Compatibility_List

>> No.4707537

>>4705593

Uh, the virtual shop is emulation bro. 2006-quality emulation at that. In some cases like the Genesis the homebrew emulator is a lot better, don't gimp yourself for the sake of it.

>> No.4707559

>>4707271
Do you know one thing I would like for the Wii? I may already exist but I want something that plugs into the motion control port and emulates moving the Wii controller around. That way I don't have to fool around wagglin' through the system menus to get to my emulators.

Ideally someone could release a controller with a switch that would allow the analog stick to function as a pointer.

>> No.4707563

>>4707559
>That way I don't have to fool around wagglin' through the system menus to get to my emulators.
The classic controller does this.
Or you can install priiloader and auto start into the homebrew channel or another launcher.

>> No.4707572

>>4707563
The classic controller still has to be connected to a wii controller and that is annoying.

I will look into Priiloader.

>> No.4707578

>>4707572
Then what on earth did you mean by "the motion control port?"

>> No.4707583

>>4707578
Ideally it would be a dongle you'd plug in there that would have a wireless connection to a controller. The controller would send "motion" data from a joystick to the point emulating the motion controller.

>> No.4707584

>>4707583
>point
*port

>> No.4707594

>>4707572

After installing Priiloader you want to hold the reset button on boot, look for an option called "Load/Install File", select the .dol of whatever launcher you want and in the settings have it Autoboot to "Installed File" and return to "Autoboot". That should circumvent the system menu entirely.

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>>4707559
>Ideally someone could release a controller with a switch that would allow the analog stick to function as a pointer.
Does the 8bitdo controllers this? I had one a while back, but got rid of it. This was before I tested it with the wii.

>> No.4707695

how is the wiiu wrt to emulation these days?

>> No.4708085

>>4707271
There may be some EDID issues with newer GPUs. I've only tested with older CRT monitors and RGBHV connections that don't send EDID info.

>> No.4708090

Been emulating DUAL ORB 2. Its tittys

>> No.4708173

>>4707559
Just make your Wii boot to Homebrew Channel directly, don't bother with that retarded System Menu anymore.

>> No.4708384

>>4707271
Using DVI-A to VGA adapter plus custom VGA to Atari ST connector cable, no active conversion.

Using the s-video/composite output of the video card goes through a scaler chip which will only do 480i/576i output, using VGA the GPU sets the output resolution directly.

GPU drivers used to forbid setting resolution modes with <31kHz refresh or too low dot clock, thus Soft15kHz and other software workarounds, but doesn't seem to need it with at least 900/700 series nvidia cards on recent drivers.


>>4708085
In case of EDID issues just replace the EDID with Custom Resolution Utility.

>> No.4708478

>>4701168
deliberately*

>> No.4708502

>>4708384
>>4708384
>but doesn't seem to need it with at least 900/700 series nvidia cards on recent drivers.
This blew my mind. As I said, I fiddled with this last night, and that it displayed on my monitor both scared me and impressed me. It impressed me that it was legible, and scared me that IF I got windows stuck in 240p, I have no way to get it working again, and may need a quick reformat. I don't think my CRT monitor will display anything less then 31khz properly.

Glad to see Nvidia finally address this need. I don't know that it ever worked without 3rd party software. It makes no sense why now. They are done with analog, and thus I am done with them. Now I will see what last longer, my CRT pc monitor or my gtx 960. My money is on the Gtx....My monitor is 18-19 years old. (GDM fw900).

I may have to find a way to output to my TV in component @ 240p in addition to my PC displaying its normal goofball resolution

It still does not change how impressed I have been with the wii. Simple and intuitive are 2 adjectives. even a kid could use it and not fuck it up totally.

>> No.4708503

>>4708502
>and scared me that IF I got windows stuck in 240p, I have no way to get it working again
Safe mode with VGA bruh

>> No.4708569

>>4707583
that's not your everyday laziness, that's advanced laziness.

>> No.4708637

>>4708502
top tip, set up VNC and/or remote desktop so that you can fix video options if you mess it up.

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Comfy low-effort retro-setup (and photo)

>> No.4709071

So I have a Sony FD Trinitron WEGA KD-34XBR960. It's an HD crt but a really nice one that actually runs 240p pretty good. I currently have my wii hooked up to it through composite but I'm considering getting component cables. So my question is would using component cables defeat the whole "original resolution" feature? If so maybe I'll look for S-video instead

>> No.4709195

>>4709071
Wtf?

>> No.4709220

>>4709195
Which part do I need to clarify?

>> No.4709249

>>4709220
Not that anon, but the answer is no.

>> No.4709274

>>4709249
Thank you

>> No.4709283

>>4709274
You're welcome.

And I doubt that this is impossible, so someone please get 32X working on the Wii, please.

>> No.4709391

>>4709283
You just need someone to fix Picodrive core in the Wii Retroarch port. From what I heard, Picodrive is hard-coded for little endian platforms (X86, ARM, MIPS, etc) and fail to run on big endian platforms (like the Wii or PS3). We only need someone (like notaz?) to fix all potential endianess issues in Picodrive code (generally you would only have to look at data being written as bytes and being read as 16-bit or 32-bit word or the opposite)

>> No.4709397

>>4707614
Yeah, it does bro. Youre really missing out

>> No.4709476

>>4708502
>I may have to find a way to output to my TV in component @ 240p in addition to my PC displaying its normal goofball resolution
get a transcoder like the key digital KD-VA5

>> No.4709526

>>4709397
>Youre really missing out
You have no idea how much money I made with that controller in my hand. I am "skilled" labor and am essentially self employed at this point in my career. I work when I want, when I want to. I got a call one time about this "I need someone fast who is greedy"

They needed a worker bee in new construction in a food production facility...But they didn't need a worker, they needed me for "Fire monitor". My job for 12 hours a day 7 days a week for a few months was to make sure that the concrete floor did not catch on fire from TIG welding. I am not even joking. I had to sit in one place and watch. About a week in, I asked IF I could play video games on my cell phone. I was told by the plant safety that my only 2 responsibilities were to make sure there was no fire and to stay awake and there was no issue with phone use.

$4k/week to play video games in a place that smelled like frosted mini-wheats is not a bad job. I wish it lasted more then 8 weeks. I sold the controller afterward, and I don't know why. I just assumed it would only work for bluetooth. I did find out later it worked with the Wii, but I still do prefer OEM controllers. It is a great 3rd party controller. I HATED the lights.

>>4709476
>get a transcoder like the key digital KD-VA5
How much lag does this thing introduce? I am more interested in getting my xbox onto my PC monitor then getting my PC onto my TV, and it seems to do that.

>> No.4709797

https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Wii64_Compatibility_List

Is this tested on both Wii and Wii U? I really hope this works on my Wii. Don't want to pay some scalper Jew on ebay.

>> No.4709814

>>4709797
Wii64 is ass. You need to use Mupen64.

>> No.4709843

>>4709039
Basically what I have.

>> No.4709872

>>4709526
>How much lag does this thing introduce? I am more interested in getting my xbox onto my PC monitor then getting my PC onto my TV, and it seems to do that.
it's a transcoder so...none?

>> No.4709956

Can someone who runs FCE Ultra GX in 240p upload their app and settings?

I can't get the damn thing to run in 240p without cutting off the top of the screen.
Even if I manually adjust the screen position, it still cuts off a chunk off the top for no reason.

When it's not in 240p, it has the screen properly filled.
I hate running NES games through retroarch, so don't suggest it(I have it anyway).

>> No.4710015

>>4709039
What are you playing?

>> No.4710057

>>4709956
What type of display are you using? It's probably the bezel on your CRT cutting it off.

>> No.4710097

>>4700750
>The Best Emulation Machine

That's not a PC.

>> No.4710132

>>4710015
Tomba.

>> No.4710156

>>4710132
Playing off Popstarter + OPL? I've been meaning to get that setup.

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>>4710156
Yeah, Popstarter it's pretty good most of the times.

>> No.4710319

One thing I like about the Wii as an emulation PC is that it is quiet. I know you could build a quiet PC as well, but it's a complicated affair and expensive compared to a wii.

>> No.4710707

>>4709872
>it's a transcoder so...none?
Thanks for the response. I don't know squat about these things.

>>4710097
>That's not a PC.
It also takes up less space then my PSU in my PC & costs less then any individual component in my PC. My 10 year old quad core Phenom II is about the same price used. I will give it that credit. Even a cheapo mini pc will cost more then a used wii & usually be larger.

>>4710319
>One thing I like about the Wii as an emulation PC is that it is quiet.

It may not "excel" in graphics or speed overall, but it is exceptional in all areas that I consider for "retro emulation".

>Cheap
>Small & quiet
>Plenty of OEM wireless peripherals
>Intuitive to the point a retarded child could use it
>Works with nearly every tv made in the past 20+ years.
>Emulates or is native hardware for most every NES system before it It plays many other older systems well. (exception is N64).

Sure the PC does great things, and as I found out last night that my pc can output 240p...but any PC is going to cost more then a wii, take up more space and use more power. It is a great solution to simple no-frills retro gaming.

I hated the damn thing until I finally put homebrew on it, and after that I was nothing short of impressed. Modding it is so simple even I could figure it out without too much difficulty. Interfacing with the PC for loading software is pretty easy, and in file formats we have been using for decade(s). Modders really did a great job and it shows.

Cons: Shitty N64 emulation and no 32x. You get called names for using one even by your most soy'd friends. Get a red or black one to avoid most of this.

>> No.4710942

>>4710707
>Get a red or black one to avoid most of this
Not him but i dont get this sentence. I wonder why a black or red one are preffered choices since only the white one can emulate gamecube. Are there other advantages im not aware of?

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>>4706830
I've had a hard time with external drives with the Wii and even Wii U, so I took 2 hdds from notebooks and used external usb enclosures and the most important part , USB Y cables, they are the only that can power the hard drivers properly.

>> No.4710968

>>4710942
the implication is white electronics are for soybois.

>> No.4711029

>>4710942
>I wonder why a black or red one are preffered choices
The apparent change in the board giving better video output. There are models that offer this, and have GC controller ports. This anon summed it up:
>>4701551
>Early wiis has not great analog video out. Starting with version 49 they improved it with version 60 being the cleanest video out. 60s are just about if not as good as a gamecube

>>4710961
>I've had a hard time with external drives with the Wii
It is odd, but I must be lucky. I first started with a 16gb PNY usb 2.0 as a test. My next test was an external laptop HDD in an external case, but it used one of them odd USB 3.0c with the extra plug on the side. It did not have the "Y" cable. I however did not trust the power draw to not cook something, so I did a bit of reading on the USB flash drives, and got the Sandisk 256gb 3.0 with no issues at all.

>>4710968
>implication is white electronics are for soybois
The white console just looks odd. It stands out against all other electronics, and I don't judge anyone for getting one of them stickers like OP (its a good one actually) I would do no less.

>> No.4711263

Kind of wish n64 games could run at 240p

>> No.4711279

>>4711263
They do with crt emudriver.

>> No.4711290

>>4711279
hahaha, you're such a funny guy #pcmasterrace I bet you get a lot of pussy

>> No.4711613

>>4707695
VC is worse on the Wii u than it is on the Wii. Can't output in 240p.

Pretty comfy for 480p Gamecube titles on the Wii U gamepad through Nintendont.

>> No.4711642

>>4710942
ninty changed the analog-video-path/dac with board-revisions rvl-cpu-40 (and rvl-cpu-60), which were done in 2009/early 2010, shortly before the release of the gamecube-less Wiis.
concidentally they also started to sell non-white Wiis when they changed to these revisions, that's why, if you want one of these board-revisions, you have a 100% chance of getting them when buying a non-white wii with the model number RVL-001.
there are also white wiis with these board-revisions, but it's a gamble and you have to unscrew the bios-battery slot to get to a internal sticker which also shows the board-revisions.

>> No.4711682

>>4711613
No 240p isnt the only reason it's bad, it also is much darker, and generally less accurate apparently...
also I suppose there is the fact that you have a bit less controller options available to you, especially if you want a wired connection.

>> No.4711690

is sd for booting games slow like usb 2.0? anyone got a card over 32 gb that works for games?

really wanna get back into my wii

>> No.4711715

>>4711690
USB 2.0 is quite a bit faster than the original discs if you're using a decent flash drive.

>> No.4711926

>>4711642
I wish I knew this when I got my Wii.
But luckily enough, I got a black one because I didn't like how the white ones look. Now I like it even more. Not a bad deal for 20€.
While we're on topic, I managed to mod it and install a bunch of emulators. But I can't figure out how to make it boot directly into the homebrew channel.
Any tips?

>> No.4712013

>>4711926
Use Priiloader https://smashboards.com/threads/modify-a-hacked-wii-to-boot-straight-to-the-homebrew-channel-goodbye-wiimote.358240/

>> No.4712084

>>4711926

Drop Priiloader on the SD card, install it from the homebrew channel and there should be an option called "Return to/Boot to", you just set that to Homebrew Channel.

>> No.4712094

>>4712013
>>4712084
I don't know how I missed this info when I modded my Wii.
Many thanks.

>> No.4712156

What's the best retroarch version for Wii? I heard people have problems with the recent ones.

>> No.4712168

https://romtohome.com/wii/ do wads from this site work?

>> No.4712176

I dont know where to ask so i try here.
Are there any games for the wii that are similar to : rimworld, dwarf fortress, barotrauma, spacestation 13. I know, some of them are multiplayer but maybe there is an equivalent.

>> No.4712190

>>4710968
How horrible.
>>4711029
>>4711642
>better video
Im okay with this, thanks for the answers but i wouldnt know since i dont remember the og wii video quality anyway.

>> No.4712308

>>4712190
>thanks for the answers but i wouldnt know since i dont remember the og wii video quality anyway.
I don't either, and Id almost think that I would have to do a side by side to see which is better. I would never have even considered anything like that, and it is great to know now. I didn't like white-wiis Glad to see that it is simple to get a "better" & newer on just by the color.

>> No.4712406

>>4712308
Id rather have backwards compatibility to be honest but beggars cant be choosers. Got my black wii for like 40€ and am pretty content with it but havent bothered to emulate. Considering getting a gba emu for it right now for some roguelike ports and maybe checking the gba library out. Can you/someone reccomend me a gba emulator?

>> No.4712839

>>4711690
iirc the Wii drive is 6x dvd-speed max, which roughly translates to 8 or 9Mbyte/s reading.
even the shittiest usb-stick should be faster than that.

>> No.4713748

>>4712406
>Can you/someone reccomend me a gba emulator?

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_emulators

Visual Boy Advance GX seems to be the main one listed for GBA.

>> No.4713773

>>4712406
>>4713748
That link seems a bit outdated. You're better off going with mGBA since it has a Wii port and higher compatibility.

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4713780

I just got the Raphnet SNES to GC adapter in the mail this week, and I've been loving it so far. It's got a few different profiles you can set by holding certain buttons on power up/while plugging the adapter in.

I've just been using the default profile for everything. Works amazing for SNES and NES virtual console games so far. It's also my new favorite controller for the Game Boy Player on the GameCube.

It seems a bit pricey for what it is, but I would say it was worth it. I might actually skip on buying an SD2SNES now, because SNES VC on a CRT looks even better than it does coming from my actual (non-1-chip) console.

>> No.4713782

>>4710057
That's not the case at all, trust me.
It's a PVM 2530 and a good chunk of the screen is cut off. It doesn't even meet the bezel.
SNES9x works fine in 240p, so it baffles me why it won't work right for the NES equivalent.

Once again, if someone could upload their version and settings, I'd really appreciate it greatly.
My experience with NES titles is sorely lacking.

>> No.4713787

>>4713782
Here you go anon, my settings work fine for 240p on my setup.
https://mega.nz/#!Uk5EnAAD!KgWIvtu44IZiLntYkR3UQBifR-nq_fIjluhUx8-xPoE

>> No.4713790

>>4713787
Oh, and this is on 3.3.9, which is the latest GitHub release.

>> No.4713815

>>4713787

Thanks for that, but sadly, I still have the same problem.

I think it may be due to the fact that I have used AnyRegionChanger to change my video mode to PAL, but kept my region to NTSC.
This is the only thing I could think of messing with it.

Have you by any chance, used AnyRegionChanger?
Or is your Wii a PAL Wii?
I am thinking that instead of changing your video mode, you simply adjusted each game/emulator to 240p.

I may have to revert it back, but I would like to know your response due to the fact that messing with that particular app increases your chances of bricking your console.

>> No.4713837

>>4713815
No, I'm using an NTSC console with component cables. My console's video output is set to 480i, 4:3 aspect ratio.

Why did you change it to PAL video mode?

>> No.4713847

>>4713837
I honestly don't remember anymore.
I believe I did it so that I could play Wii games without the screen displaying in red.
My Wii console is connected via a SCART cable and I don't think my particular PVM can accept 240p any other way.

Now that I think about it, I could change it back and simply adjust my apps to accommodate PAL video modes.
I'm not familiar with running 240p through component.
Does doing that allow to display 480i and 240p content without seeing everything in red?
If I run my Wii through SCART without setting the video mode to PAL, I believe I get that problem.

>> No.4714039

>>4713787
>>4713847

Some software looks at system menu or game region to pick a video output mode rather than looking at the video region selection, so for perfect compatibility you may need to change all three or else you get red screen using SCART/black and white screen if using S-video

Using component instead of RGB/S-video should work fine regardless of region settings.

>> No.4714041

I don't want to start a flame war, but I'm curious about the following:

It is pretty easy in Linux to force some video cards to output in 240p. Some video cards also have s-out, or a VGA converter can be used. What are the downsides of this?

>> No.4714051

>>4713748

Visual Boy Advance GX is the drizzling shits, use mGBA. It's about the only Wii emulator still in active development and it's damn near perfect.

https://mgba.io/downloads.html

>> No.4714074

>>4714041
The S-video/composite out of most video cards doesn't follow the video output mode you set, they're 576i/480i only.

>> No.4714249

Any tips on getting Namco's NTSCJ VC Arcade WADs to work on an NTSCU Wii? Starting Cyber Sled directly just tells me the channel can't be played. Tried enabling "Region Free Channels" in Priiloader and patching with FreeTheWads, both to no avail.

>> No.4714306

>plebs don't know how to do 240p with a VGA monitor
LOL
I'm actually surprised there are people like that on /vr/
Wii is great and all if you don't want to put time into your setup and just have something "okay" to play around with

>> No.4714313

>>4713773
>>4714051
mGBA displays the games in the incorrect aspect radio and it tickles my autism. Games are displayed in 4:3 instead of the correct 3:2, so everything looks stretched and there is no way to correct it, not even selecting pixel perfect.

It's a shame because it has better compatibility.

>> No.4714341

>>4713782
I don't know if this counts for PVMs, but PAL tubes have usually physically more lines to account for 576i while NTSC tubes only need to do 480i. 240p equivalent on PAL is 288p. Hence when you run NTSC 240p games on a PAL monitor it cuts off 48 pixels from the top/bottom to fit the lines physically.

>> No.4714371

>>4714313

Run mgba's retroarch core instead of the standalone emulator to solve that. I know, >retroarch, I'm just saying.

>> No.4714456

Is there any way to connect a Wii to a normal PC CRT monitor? It seems way too complicated and maybe even unfeasible.

>> No.4714475

>>4714456
Yes, easily with composite cables. You need an RF modulator as well and possibly a matching transformer. You can also use a VCR as a pass-through to act as the RF modulator. If your CRT just has screws and nothing else, you'll need the matching transformer, if not you're home free.

There's directions everywhere online on how to use a VCR as a pass-through if you want to go that route.

>> No.4714481

>>4714456
*oh wait...."PC" monitor....

well...you're fucked then. Sorry.

>> No.4714498

>>4700750
So emulating is now a thing on/vr/?
Maybe the wrong question here (if yes I open another topic) but why is the Wii the best emulating machine? Got an PS3 and WiiU and thinking about getting a Xbox360 with rgh, question is for me: which of those could soles is the best for emulating when i use only emulator?

>> No.4714502

>>4714475
>>4714481
Eh, OK. I just wanted to know if it was doable. My CRT has issues and I didn't want to look for another one.

>> No.4714508

>>4714498
Because it's the only system out of all of those that can output native 240p easily and cheaply... also nintendo's own virtual console is decently accurate unless you have a good computer

>> No.4714509

>>4714508
Also I should add that Wii U virtual console is actually worse than the original wii for some reason, though you can probably use it on Wii mode but idk how easy it is to install wads that way

>> No.4714523

>>4714502
There are adapters out there for that, but good luck to you on finding them. I tried and gave up. There's not a whole lot of point to it especially considering the capture hardware that is out there and that a PC monitor is also a regular monitor. I'm sure you got your reasons, and sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Maybe your searchfu will be more successful.

>> No.4714553

>>4714456
see ebay for Wii to VGA cables. You will need an SD TV/monitor at least for initial setup though to get the Wii into 480p mode, or an LCD monitor if it supports low resolutions.

>> No.4714593

>>4714456
Component-to-VGA transcoder is all you need.

>> No.4714605

For you Neo Geo fans out there, a developer implemented a way to play some bigger Neo Geo games in file size like Garou Mark of the Wolves on FBA and GXGEO on the Wii. Th==There's also a way to play CPS3 games going by the thread, but I haven't tested it out yet.
gbatemp.net/threads/large-neogeo-games-support-and-cps3-tests.493767/

>> No.4714709

>>4714553
You would need a 15kHz capable VGA monitor for that though, Wii can't do 31kHz. Those are rare and I don't think that's what he's asking about.
You need a scan-doubler or transcoder at least.

>> No.4714795

>>4714605
Whoa, I didn't think the Wii could do CPS3 games. Thanks for sharing, dude.

>> No.4715090

Is it possible to play Japanese VC games on a USA Wii without bricking it, and does anybody know a nice place where I could get those wads thanks

here's a wad link some nice /vr/ trooper shared, but it does not have what I really want (Splatterhouse arcade)

>> No.4715097
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4715097

>>4715090
>here's a wad link some nice /vr/ trooper shared,


https://mega.nz/#F!WRcEybiS!XkS89zjkXlgscw9AJjXwrQ!aIcG2JDI

>> No.4715108 [DELETED] 

>>4714508
>also nintendo's own virtual console is decently accurate unless you have a good computer
either way you still have no 240p and limited rgb range.
too bad, wiiu would be a LITTY emulation-box

>> No.4715115

>>4714509
either way you still have no 240p and limited rgb range, as these limitations are by hardware.
too bad, wiiu would be a LITTY emulation-box

>>4715097
>>4715090
a scholar and gentleman

>> No.4715454

How is the pc98 emulation on this thing?

>> No.4716912

where can i download pal vc wads???

>> No.4717068

>>4716912
why would you even want that? it's easy to either make your wii a US model or make the wads region free. 60hz is where it's at.

>> No.4717136

>>4715454

Very Bad. It's one of those proof-of-concept emulators that had one revision of one emulator released 10+ years ago and nothing more, like the Saturn and DS emus. Most games don't boot and those that do are absolutely, unbearably slow.

>>4716912

Don't. Download NTSC wads and use Anyregionchanger or Showmiiwads to regionfree them. You probably don't want 50hz in this day and age.

>> No.4717152

>>4714306
B-but i-it's more authentic! cuz it's a ninty console connected to my overpriced PVMeme!

>> No.4717325

>>4717068
>>4717136
Too bad that pal Wii owners get screwed when they try to run ntsc games on their system through rgb scart cable though.

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4717342

>>4717152
>it's more authentic!
Glad you agree. >>4717152
>overpriced PVMeme!
You don't need to have a pvm, and you can source a great 240p tv for nothing or very cheaply through craigslist.

>> No.4717371

Does Wii emulation have input lag?

>> No.4718467

>>4700750
Standalone emulators (FeceUX, SNES9X, etc) vs Retroarch? which one has less input lag if playing with the Wiimote & accesories?
What's the way to go?
> inb4 Virtual Console

>> No.4718474

>>4707537
I know its emulation, like I said I prefer some official release of emulation from somebody like Nintendo because other forms of emulation are just liable to shitting the bed for no fucking reason.

>> No.4718541

>>4717325
>lying on the internet

>> No.4718631
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4718631

>>4718467
I know this isn't the answer you're going to want to hear, but in most cases the Virtual Console has the least amount of input lag.

For example, take a look at SMW on the SNES.

On a real SNES console, the game has about 2.83 frames of input delay. On the virtual console with a classic controller, it has about 4 frames of input delay. The best you can get out of Snes9xGX is about 5.67 frames of delay.

You can close the gap even further if you use a wired controller through the GC ports, within about a frame difference with real hardware.

>> No.4719238

>>4718541
Try to run ntsc wads on a pal Wii motherfucker and see what happens, i double dare you. I hope you like playing games in Virtual Boy color mode.

>> No.4719262

>>4718631
I only get 3 frames of lag with SNES9xGX. Less if you use a wired gamecube controller. When I plug up my SNES side by side it's impossible to tell the difference even when I press both buttons simultaneously

>> No.4719267

>>4718631
lol why would unfiltered mode by quicker than original output. This test is retarded

>> No.4719273

>>4717371
Yes, horrendous lag. Just give up now, and whatever you do, don't bother actually reading this thread as you might encounter forbidden knowledge.

>> No.4719409

>>4719262
So games are already included in the SNES9xGX? What games are included? I've got a fuckton already through downloading the Wii virtual store. Also on the wiki page they call them Roms but they're really wads correct?

I'm still inclined to stick to the curated list of games Nintendo came up with since I'd if I get this emulator I'll just download the entire library and end up with a shit ton of shovelware + games that just don't work since it's emulation

>> No.4719415

>>4719409
>So games are already included in the SNES9xGX?
No. Where'd you get that idea?

>Also on the wiki page they call them Roms but they're really wads correct?
VC games are wads, which is a wii rom in a way. But for snes9xgx you'll need standard snes roms.

>> No.4719423

>>4717325

Literally any USB loader than circumvent that.

>> No.4719436

>>4718467

People don't really want to hear it because of its bad UI and being somewhat cumbersome to use, but Retroarch cores are better than a GX emulator in literally every case. The GX emulators offer limited 240p options and higher CPU usage which leads to slightly more lag, the issue really coming down to them being old emulators that weren't designed with CRTs in mind. By all means try it out but if you want to close the delay gap as much as possible either Retroarch or VC is the way to go.

>> No.4719438

>>4719238

Set "Pal60 mode" while launching the game from a USB/SD Loader, you're welcome.

>> No.4719465

>>4719267
The difference is pretty negligible, the delay still ranges from 5-6 frames on both. You'd probably see the figures even out if there was a larger data set.

>>4719262
That's cool, you should share your methodology and your emulator video settings. The previous poster had specifically asked about Wii remotes/accessories and that's the only data I was able to find regarding input delay from the virtual console.

>> No.4719550

>>4719238
>>4719423
You can't do that with virtual console wads.

>> No.4719704

>>4719436
How can I save resolution settings in retroarch? I tried the current and old versions and it either always sets 640x480i on the start or the last used resolution even if it's the wrong one for the current core. I'm aware of per-core configs in recent versions but on Wii they save everything besides the screen resolution. At least GX emulators don't have problems with basic shit and always pick the right one.

>> No.4719783

>>4719550

Uhh, yes you can. I've done it for years. It's the only way you can play certain kinds of VC like the Japanese arcade releases.

>> No.4719793

>>4719783
Huh? How.

>> No.4719798

>>4719704

The old versions didn't support resolution saving at all but it should be there in anything recent, the biggest issue as you said is it will save the settings across cores to the same retroarch.cfg which is as good as useless.

A quick fix I've been using is to open up the core in question's .dol with a hex editor, search and replace every instance of "retroarch.cfg" with an equivalent name of your choice, like "retrosnes.cfg" and save it. Before you load it up again make sure you've made a copy of your retroarch.cfg in the SD:/Retroarch/ folder and given it the new name. Do this for each core you use and they'll all have their own individual, saving settings.

>At least GX emulators don't have problems with basic shit and always pick the right one.

Hey, I agree, it's a pain in the ass, but retroarch still emulates better.

>> No.4719807

>>4719783
>Japanese arcade releases
I don't suppose you'd mind sharing because this stuff seems like a PITA to find so far

>> No.4719818

>>4719793

Using Wiiflow for example, you open up the NAND/channel menu, select the installed game, click the options button and look for two settings - Video Mode, which you want to set to Pal 60HZ, and the other something like 'video patch', which you set to Yes. If this fails you can try some other tricks like loading via Apploader, which fixes some troublesome games. It'll work eventually.

>> No.4719836

>>4719807

Originally I got them from a torrent that's now defunct but I found a GDrive that still has 'em. Grab while you can.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7vPmuZfN3snMU0zYlBXSWVhOUE

>> No.4719837

>>4719798
>A quick fix I've been using
I tried loading the custom configs through the loader's arguments with --config parameter, but apparently wii retroarch doesn't support this command line option as well. I haven't thought about hex editing, thanks!

>but retroarch still emulates better.
I already use it for it nes and pce as they share the same resolution, and don't see the reason to switch over gx version of genesis plus, as it's the same version maintained by its author. Are SNES retroarch cores much better than gx emulator? Which one should I use?

>> No.4719847

>>4719837

Actually yeah, Genesis Plus is the one case where the emulation is exactly the same. In that case you should use the standalone emulator. The main difference between that the GX emulators is how it's still maintained by the author.

Use the snes9x-next core, but grab a .dol from a few versions back if you find its stuttering - the Wii releases have been gimped lately as I guess they've stopped paying attention. The main difference is it handling chip games much better, having no audio/visual slowdown on more taxing games (Mario RPG for instance gets hit hard by GX), and more customization in resolution options.

>> No.4719870

>>4719847
>from a few versions back if you find its stuttering - the Wii releases have been gimped lately as I guess they've stopped paying attention.
Seems like too much work for now as I already tired setting up the thing. Anyway, thanks again for the tip, I might also add the neo geo core, as I would like to play Neo Tur Masters on CRT. I hope Wii can handle it.

>> No.4719931

>>4719870
>I might also add the neo geo core, as I would like to play Neo Tur Masters on CRT. I hope Wii can handle it.
it's on VC

>>4719836
F

that seems to have EVERYTHING

>> No.4719967

>wii u with a bit of tinkering can emulate gamecube as well

>> No.4720473

>>4719836
Thank you.

>> No.4720596

My nes30 pro doesn't wanna work in emulators

I got the impression these we're much better, I have to mess with key combos and firmwares...

>> No.4720597

>>4719967
>tfw emulating Metroid Prime Trilogy right now

>> No.4720732

>>4719967
>>4720597
>emulate

>> No.4720970

>>4717325
>>4719238
somewhat related to this:
what's a working way to switch regions of a 4.3-wii?

afaik using AnyRegion Changer on a Wii after a certain serial-number bricks it due to boot2 being too new, plus iirc ARC is downgrading to 3.2, what I wouldn't want to do either.

halp pls, wat do

>> No.4720990 [DELETED] 

>>4700750
My wife’s mixed race son got me int emulation on Wii. It’s great for bonding over some old classics while she’s out at the gym with her african-american fitness instructor

>> No.4721414

>>4720970
The potential brick is only for changing your system menu region, changing your video region or game region are separate and work fine. Unless you care about using legit import discs changing your system menu region usually isn't necessary.

>> No.4721578

>>4719818
The Wiiflow trick doesn't even seem to work in most of the cases, honestly.

>> No.4721707

>>4721578

It can be tricky but I don't think I've had a case where I couldn't get a game working right at all, just try different loaders if Wiiflow isn't doing it. I know USB Loader GX and Configurable USB Loader handle video differently for instance, as I can get NTSC Smash Bros going on those but not Wiiflow.

I'm pretty sure you can enable the video patch without any loaders if you load up an Emunand via Neek 2o and press 2 to show the hidden settings, which might work better for you, but I haven't messed with that stuff in a while.

>> No.4722295

Anyone here with a nes30 pro?

I can get it to work in the main wii menu, but no emulators will recognize it

>> No.4722886

>>4721414
thanks

>> No.4723331

>>4719836
Finally I can play Splatterhouse and Rolling Thunder, thx based anon

Say, can anybody tell me the name of that tool that turns Gameboy games into .gba files that a GBA flashcart can handle? I remember the latest version, that can handle GBC games at a decent speed, was kinda hard to find, looks like I lost it. Off-topic but one of you probably knows. Thanks

>> No.4723338

>>4723331
Goomba Color is what you're looking for. Most GB games run fine. Most GBC games are fine, but I've ran into some slowdown on a handful of games.

>> No.4725000

>>4721414
but does ARC still downgrade to 3.2 when the system region remains unchanged?

>> No.4725083

>>4719465
I did pretty much the same thing as you while filming myself and the CRTs to measure the frame difference. Could there be some kind of hardware variation between wii models? I was using SNES 9xGX with a wii classic controller on original video mode. All the games and emulators were on SD card instead of USB. I got an average really close to 3 frames.

>> No.4725090

>>4708085
If you ever get problems with EDID all you need to do is snip the pin on the VGA dongle

>> No.4725091

About a wii hd - i checked iver the compatibility list on gba temp,- but i still dont i know: are they mostly all powered via external enclosures with separate power supplies?

>> No.4725145

Pulled my original wii that I got when I was 11 out of the closet the other day to determine if I needed to do anything in order to play games from a usb drive because I haven't touched the thing in probably 4+ years

Everything still works. It has my original twilight princess save from 2007 and the dummy save file that I used for the twilight hack. It's a really cool experience being able to go back to your (sorta) childhood console and see all of your save games and emulators. I have a few ps1 memory cards that have stuff like my tomba 2 save from 2002 that still loads and it makes me all fuzzy inside.

>> No.4725294

>>4725091

Nah, there's a good few USB only drives that work fine - mainly Seagate's and WD's. Go that route if you can.

>> No.4725423

Is there a way to play wads through a loader without having to install them?

>> No.4725473

>>4725145
The wii version would actually be the best if they gave you controller options.
(besides what other way to show off the capabilities of the wii with a launch title than to demostrate it's bc)

>> No.4725732

>>4700794
>Gonna flip most of em when the boom hits wii.
>Also buy up them official component wires. They are starting to dry up and raise in price.
DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>> No.4725738

>>4700816
This anon is right,snes 9x chugs a little bit sometimes. Even PCE. Pound for pound it's still a great emulation device, but I wouldn't replace your main consoles anytime. PS3 will eventually be the best emulation device but keep your wii for GC and ISOs obv.

>> No.4725750

>>4725738
Use VC or retroarch, nothing else is worth it

>> No.4725793

>>4700937
FYI anons, not all the MINI versions work on wii. I bought a $60 NES MINI ADVANTAGE arcade controller and it didn't work with my wii :(

>> No.4725841

>>4725423
emunand?

>> No.4725843

>>4725738
>PS3 will eventually be the best emulation device

>YLOD
>YLOD
>YLOD
>YLOD
>YLOD

>> No.4725852

>>4717325
what on earth are you on about?
i made my PAL system NA and i'm playing 240p castlevania through RGB on an old trinitron

>> No.4725858

I sold my wii when i got a wii u. How is wii emulation with a wii u?

>> No.4725945

>>4725858
wii u dosen't even emulate the wii, it's mostly native... which also means you can run gamecube games with nintendont really easily

>> No.4726327

>>4700809
You are saving SRAM. You need to select Save Snapshot

>> No.4726334

People talked about like arcade sticks for wii/gc earlier but is there any good way to convert a stick I might own to work on the wii (it has a ps3/ps4 pcb)
I've waited for MC Cthulhu to go back into stock on Paradise for a while but I guess it's going to go in hibernation for a while.

>> No.4726349

is there way to play gamecube games from an external hd?
i know it works for wii games

>> No.4726367

>>4726349
with nintendont

>> No.4726374

>>4726367
Thx. got a weekend project now

>> No.4726384

>>4726367
Quick question on that subject: do you know if it's possible to have nintendon't on a USB stick whilst having emulators installed on an SD card?

>> No.4726652

>>4726384
not that anon but no its just like any other app its on the sd card. Are you hiding it from Iawata or something?

>> No.4726654

>>4714051
HOLY SHIT. I've been play advanced wars on vgba and its really choppy during battle scenes. MGBA emulates it smoothly, great tip thanks anon!

Just one question, I can't find the newest retro arch core though.

Took about an hour to find a forwarder for the native app though.

>https://gbatemp.net/threads/anyone-have-a-mgba-channel-forwarder.446289/

ANONS USE THIS, 4:3 ASPECT IS NOT BAD.

>> No.4726712

Been replaying Pokémon Red/Blue on my good ol' Wii, absolutely great system to play games from the 2600 Era to about when the Playstation came out. Tons of great source ports for games like Quake 1 and Duke 3D as well.

>> No.4726985

How do I get TGCD games running in RetroArch? Which core do I use? Whenever I load a cue file it dumps me back to file select

>> No.4727412

>>4726384
>do you know if it's possible to have nintendon't on a USB stick whilst having emulators installed on an SD card?
the data for it or the app itself?

>> No.4727414

>>4725000
pls respond

>> No.4727490

>suggest buying a Wii because you can just download VC WADs of emulated classics that run fairly well with Nintendo's in-house emulators
>idiots insist on loading Retroarch on it instead and playing the same games with several ms of added input lag

Why is /vr/ so fucking stupid?

>> No.4728151

Why do so many people use controllers that connect to the wiimote? I'm gonna give a GC to PS1 adapter a shot (someone was raving about it online)

I really just don't wanna deal with batteries

I'll get a GC controller if I have to, but I'm not a big fan

>> No.4728191

>>4700809
this >>No.4726327

>> No.4728621

>>4701085
Nobody, save for the few most autistic amongst us, will be able to tell the difference.

>> No.4728696

>>4727490
Well, the Genesis VC emulator is trash, but otherwise yeah I don't know what these other people are smoking.

>> No.4728908

>>4727490
not all games run as VC or VCinjects. and when you have to use an emulator anyway, might as well use it for everything.
or not, who cares, does it impact your life in a negative way when they use emus instead of VC?

>> No.4729104

>>4727412
So I want to have all my emulators on an SD card and Nintendon't+Isos on a USB stick. It says on the website that you shouldn't have other things plugged in when using Nintendon't, but it doesn't really explain what it means by that so I'm unsure if there'll be any problems.

>> No.4729145

>>4729104
One question... Why?

>> No.4729231

>>4728908
>and when you have to use an emulator anyway, might as well use it for everything
There's no logic in using a frontend that adds several ms of input lag. Shmups and rhythm games are unplayable in Retroarch for this reason. A number of emulators have already been ported to Wii and GC without the need for a third-party frontend, and they all work just fine.

>> No.4729617

>>4729104
>emulators on an SD card and Nintendon't on a USB stick
yeah, why?
>>4729231
ok

>> No.4729637

Just picked up a black wii for $20. Going to look up how easy it is to add emulators to then play shit on my wii for the rest of the night.

>> No.4729665

>>4726985
Run the "mednafen pce fast" core.

>> No.4729674

>>4726985
Use Hugo or WiiEngine, not a shit frontend like Retroarch.

>> No.4729689

>>4729674
Don't listen to ignoramus, anon, Hugo is garbage and won't run PCE CD games for shit or even at all. Wiiengine is crap too and good luck getting it to run. Just run "Mednafen pce fast core" and it runs everything no problem.

>> No.4729697

>>4729674
Hugo also won't run many regular Hucard games at full speed or even close. Mednafen pce fast also plays Supergrafx games as well as PCE/TG games and PCE/TG CD games more or less perfectly.

>> No.4729709

>>4726985
Do you have the cd player bios, anon....?

>> No.4729718

>>4729689
>>4729697

Reminder that Mednafen shill appears in every emulation thread to launch personal attacks against any anons who dare use anything other than his pet project. Promptly disregard his posts.

>> No.4729735

>>4729718
You are ignorant, there's no attack. Why do you want anon to have trouble running games?

For fun play Military Madness on Hugo, type in "KAISER" at the password-now try to play, I dare you. Now play the same game through Retroarch's Mednafen pce fast core-now you can play the same level without massive slowdown-and you can play all the CD games and Supergfax games too.

>> No.4729964

>>4729145
>>4729617
The SD card is already full and I won't have money for a larger one for a fair while, whilst I have a 32GB USB stick lying about I could use

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4730104

Glad to find this thread and gentlemen of a kindred spirit. Pic is my set up. For those of you ITT new to this, I recommend priiloader to boot directly to usbloader for a more convenient interface.

Question about SD cards: what is the size limit for Wii/homebrew/emulation? And have you had luck with micro sd adapters? Nintendo says 32gb is the limit for 4.0+ systems, but others online say otherwise. Samsung sells a nice 64gb micro sdxc with adapter for $20. I need more space for ROMs and brawl mods.

>> No.4730187

thats not a computer

the wii is pretty good for it too though

>> No.4730257

Does wii make a good mame machine?

>> No.4730274

the OG xbox is MILES better for emulation.

>> No.4730297

>>4730274
Nope. Wii can emulate a wider array of N64 games, psx games, plus runs GameCube natively. Not to mention the amount of controllers that work with Wii.

>> No.4730517

>>4725841
don't you still end up installing that somewhere?
>>4725738
its why i stay away from all those all in one shits for the wii. I prefer nintendo's curated virtual console selection which i know will run 100% perfect

>> No.4730585

>>4730274
OG Xbox can't output 240p

>> No.4730616

>Can't run ps1

OH NO NO NO

>> No.4730629

EMULATION SUCKS AND THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE EMULATION IS THAT WHICH WAS OFFICIALLY RELEASED THROUGH RESPECTED COMPANIES

>> No.4730768

>>4730629
>yfw Nintendo downloaded the same ROMs that they sold you and put them on emulators that have since been eclipsed.

>> No.4731180

>>4729964
nintendont is like 2mb small.
>>4730517
>don't you still end up installing that somewhere?
I guess

>> No.4731191

>>4729674
>>4729718

>Every post in the thread is some attack against retroarch
>Calls another guy a shill for suggesting Mednafen

You actually suggested a guy run Hugo, HUGO, over retroarch? Are you fucking kidding me? It hasn't been updated in literally ten years and has terrible compatibility. You need to get over whatever it is you have against frontends. If you want to insist they introduce input lag over standalone emulators fucking prove it, I can play both rhythm games and shmups fine.

>> No.4731315

Can someone explain how to properly configure the Wii version of Retroarch to output 240p that's properly scaled?

I can get it to output 240p, I get scanlines on my CRT, but it's not really scaled correctly for every console. I can see obvious artifacts from stretching. Do I have to manually set the native resolution for each console? Can I save the settings per core?

>> No.4731506

>>4731315

>Do I have to manually set the native resolution for each console?

Yes. It's the best way, there's little consistency between consoles.

>Can I save the settings per core?

Yes. Do what >>4719798 suggests with your settings files. In theory retroarch is supposed to do it natively, with the "Save emulator settings per core" setting in options, but it doesn't seem to actually work on the Wii.

>> No.4731528

>>4731506
Seems like a huge pain in the ass, but I'll give it a shot. Especially since I'd have to manually hex edit the .dol for every single core any time I want to update Retroarch.

>> No.4731532

>>4731528
Not them, but if you can hex edit, I think you can push Z on a Gamecube controller and find the correct settings.

>> No.4731536

>>4731532
Yeah, but it's just kind of a pain to have to try and remember the exact native resolution of each console and have to enter it manually each time I want to switch cores. The whole point of hex editing the .dol would be to avoid exactly what you're suggesting.

>> No.4731537

>>4731528

Use an editor like HxD with a replace all function. It's a pain but nothing big, should only take you a few minutes. You don't really want any shared configs anyway, each core has its own unique quirks with video you'll want to iron out early.

>> No.4731552

>>4700750
Adventure island 2. It was long as fuck man. For nes standards. Also watching some cartoons on wiimc.

>> No.4732868

>>4719798
>A quick fix I've been using is to open up the core in question's .dol with a hex editor, search and replace every instance of "retroarch.cfg" with an equivalent name of your choice, like "retrosnes.cfg" and save it.
why not stop using retroarch wrong instead of hacking binaries?

>> No.4732884

>>4732868

Well do enlighten us, friend. How would you go about it?

Not to sound cliche but it literally just works. There are no adverse side effects from it. Retroarch is an absolute dumpster fire on the Wii - most of the newer releases have butchered emulation, due to a general lack of care and upkeep, and older versions that emulate close to perfect don't save resolutions or per core settings by design. Editing binaries is how you can cover both situations and its what everyone did before these saving features were (poorly) implemented.

>> No.4733372

>>4725294

so whats that mean? The seagate/WD drives on the list ARE powered through the USB cords?

>> No.4734462

>>4733372
yea do USB's actually work? all over gbtemp they talk about avoiding usb drives for loading games.

Switching topics,

I have a softmodded wii that i play virtual console games off of via the USBloadergx and an external harddrive. How do i get wii games to play off the harddrive as well? I know i have to download them online but do i have to unpack them or whatever like with virtual console wads

>> No.4734810

My quo is literally sitting in a box underneath my crt because I never considered emulating on it, this sounds like a meme to me
What controller would you use? Why not just use a psp with video out?

>> No.4734858

I literally played over 20 games in my homebrewed wii with MAME.

>> No.4735157

Has anyone done a recent retroarch installation? The snes9x has 5 cores now and one doesn't display anything for me and the rest aren't running at anything like full speed. I've modded 2 other wiis before and never had these issues but I can't access them for a few weeks to check the core versions. It's really frustrating.

>> No.4735350

>>4734462
>yea do USB's actually work? all over gbtemp they talk about avoiding usb drives for loading games.
using usb-only powered HDDs iss always a bad idea, no matter which system.
>How do i get wii games to play off the harddrive as well?
uhm... USB Loader GX, lol.

>> No.4735926

What kind of emulator does the Wii use for N64?

I noticed that VC version of SM64 has some effects from old emulators.

>> No.4735945

>>4735926
It's something nintendo developed in house, doesn't seem to be related to the free software ones.

>> No.4735976

Man, I never managed to play NTSC Wads well on my PAL console. Every single time it will have stuttering audio as if the game is being forced to run at a different framerate and using any video modes wouldn't work. I gave up on that shit.

>> No.4735983

>>4735926
All of the Virtual Console games were developed specifically for the VC, but it's entirely possible they took work from existing emulators. We do know that they often times used ROMs downloaded from the internet. Custom headers have been found in the dumped ROMs before. So I wouldn't put it past them.

I do think that the N64 emulation on the VC is fairly good, but I really wish it could be configured to output 240p. Also the input lag on N64 emulation is noticeably worse than it is on most of the other VC games, but manageable.

>> No.4736123

>>4735983

I imagine its a further developed version of what they used with Ocarina of Time/Majoras Mask in the Gamecube Zelda collection - which was quite bad and could hard-lock the console at points. The way I understand it each rom uses a diifferent version of the emu, which is why certain roms only work injected over certain games. Rather than build an all-in-one emulator they just modified it based on the needs of each game.

>> No.4737068

>>4735350
cool so basically same process as getting vc games? Download a bunch of wads, install them on nand then presto?

>> No.4737094

The emulation on my Wii started acting weird. Everything is running WAY too fast but none of them have a throttle control

>> No.4737103

>>4701268
>>4701268
Get WiiMednafen, anon
Flawlessly Runs:
Turbografx PC Engine/Supergrafx/CD
Lynx
Virtual Boy
Neogeo Pocket Color
WonderSwan
+ more

>> No.4737119

>>4737103
can someone tell me wat emulator to use for each of the systems

>> No.4737271

>>4737068
You don't install them, USB Loader GX mounts and runs the disc image directly.

>> No.4737306

>>4737119
>>4737119
The latest and best emulators for most (good/playable) systems:
>NES = FCEUGX
>SNES = Snes9GX
>N64 = Not64
>Genesis/Mega Drive/Game Gear/CD/etc = Genesis Plus GX
>PlayStation = WiiSX
>Game Boy Advance and lower = VBA GX
>Everything I previously mentioned = WiiMednafen
>Atari 2600 = Wii2600

>> No.4737329

>>4737271
I'm not exactly sure what runs the disc image directly means. I don't have any physical wii games. So I'm assuming I'd have to get the Wii wads and then use showmiiwads to install them to the nand. Then they'd be available and playable on usbloadergx. Right? Or is it completely different

>> No.4737336

>>4737329
I need wbfs manager? And to completely reformat my external hard drive for wbfs? That would suck a shit ton since I have a bunch of VC and wiiware shit on it already and I don't want to lose saves/have to put all that shit back on the hard drive.

>> No.4737361

>>4737306
Does PlayStation emulation actually work well? It was one of the first ones I tried out back when I first soft modded my wii and the games I tried all ran poorly. Did I do something wrong?

>> No.4737382

>>4737306
I agree with most of these, but mGBA is far superior to VBA GX on the Wii. I also wouldn't really call Not64 or WiiSX "playable" by any means.

>>4737329
>>4737336
I would suggest using Wii Backup Manager on a FAT32 drive instead of WBFS. It allows you to launch both Wii and GC games from the same hard drive parition, and you could still use it for file storage.

I would also HIGHLY recommend you set up an EmuNAND on your hard drive and install your .wad files there instead. The Wii only has 512mb of built in storage, and SD cards only let you transfer a maximum of 300 titles, regardless of the storage capacity. As your collection grows, it's nice to have additional headroom.

Just my 2 cents.

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4737403

>>4735350

Why is a bad idea?
I have a 2,5" HDD, usb powered and a 3,5" HDD powered via AC that im planning to use with my wii, the 2,5" requires one plug less but i suposse the performance is worse but i´d like to now why.

>> No.4737406

>>4737361
Nope it works like shit as you would expect, some games do actually work though, for example Breath of Fire 3 works well.

>> No.4737453

>>4737403

I've never had any issues with USB-powered drives and the Wii, the performance is the same and as long as you turn off any sleep mode features it has, it shouldn't have an issue.

>> No.4737472

>>4735157

Grab the zip from the bottom here:

https://github.com/SuperrSonic/RA-SS

This guy's collection keeps every core at its best version plus has a cleaner looking menu.

>> No.4737473

>>4737361
More games than expected work well, but see
>>4737406

Check the list and update it as you see fit: https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/WiiSX_compatibility_list_(beta_2)

>>4737382
VBAGX has vastly improved since its last update, getting it up to speed to at least one of the past few versions of mGBA. I have both, but mGBA's creator is mentally ill and obsessive-compulsive, so the features and updates are annoyingly inconsistent (eg, "confirm" on Classic Controller randomly switched from "A" to "Y", won't play anything before GBA, games like Rayman Advance and Krazy Racers play on VBA but not mGBA, etc). I prefer just sticking with the most acceptable, sufficient solution that is VBA, personally.

And Not 64 runs a lot of games at about 70-95% accuracy, which is a pretty big improvement over Wii64, so I think it's acceptable and playable, for now. Check/edit the compatibility list as you see fit: https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Wii64_Compatibility_List

>> No.4737686

>>4737382
Yea I have an emunand setup on my hard drive. That's also where I store like 700 of the VC/WW titles I have. I pop on to usbloadergx and I always enter sneek when I play a game since otherwise some titles don't work. I use up about 30 gigs of my 500gb hard drive. I'd love to fill the rest up with Wii titles. Don't care so much about GameCube but it would be nice.

If I use Wiibackupmanager do I still have to create a partition on my hard drive? Doing so would suck because it would wipe everything I already have on it. From what I understand with WBFS all I would have to do is put the games in a folder via wbfs and then they're good to play from the usbloadergx

>> No.4737748

>>4737472
Fukken saved, thanks anon. I've wasted a lot of time in the last week trying to get Retroarch configured properly on the Wii.

>> No.4738169

>>4702042
I've had a modded Wii as one of my main systems for the last 4 or 5 years now, and I'm really happy to see the recent upswing in appreciation. All things considered, it's remarkable how things have ended up for Nintendo's best selling console, sitting pretty as a top-tier emulation device.

>> No.4738182

>>4704884
My best advise to anyone looking to mod a Wii nowadays, is follow a combination of the best guide you can find online and the incredibly solid advise that comes from /hbg/ on /vg/. Those anons live to play tech support, I'm convinced, and are a major part of why I even have a modded Wii to enjoy. If at any point you hit a snag, make one well worded and concise post on /hbg/ and I'd be shocked if you didn't have 3 different anons helping you within minutes.

>> No.4738225

>>4737306

is it just me, or does FCE crash on boot 1/5 of the time?

>> No.4738287

>>4737686

Yeah, it's pretty simple stuff, you just set your drive as Drive 1, use the Files tab to browse to your ISOs, right click, 'Send to drive 1' and it takes care of everything else. Way back in the day you had to have a WBFS formatted partition but just a wbfs folder is fine now.

>> No.4738393
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4738393

>>4701245

>> No.4738461

>>4700750
Maybe its just me, but does anyone else find the 3DS a great controller for precise plataforming, Ive been playing a lot of games on teh virtual console and I dont kno why but Id love to use the 3DS as a controller in other consoles

>> No.4738487

>>4738225
Try updating your version, anon

>> No.4738717

>>4718631
Nothing for gc controllers?

>> No.4738720

>>4700750
can anyone upload any quality injected WAD titles that run at 240p

plz

>> No.4738723

>>4737329
Wii disc games don't come on wads and don't have any installation, that's only for vc/wiiware stuff.

>> No.4739209

>>4737686
>Wiibackupmanager
isn't that the program with a serious unfixed bug regarding WBFS-handling?

>> No.4740496

What is the best source for up to date wii software? gbatemp?

>> No.4741310

Is there anything the Wii can handle emulation wise that PC can't at the moment? Perhaps through VC?

>> No.4741472

>>4741310
No. Dolphin is practically perfect, so even if there was you could just load the emulator through Wii emulation

>> No.4741526

>>4740496

GBATemp is good but even that isn't that active anymore and there's zero moderation anywhere, all their stickies are completely outdated. Just dig for the most recent versions of stuff you can find and ask on /hbg/ or here if you're in any doubt.

>> No.4741571

>>4701157
>$500 graphics card
You can get a top of the line card for 200 bucks m9

>> No.4741632

>>4741526
this place and /hbg/ isnt' that helpful. I've posted on gbatemp before and got some good help.
Their stuff is old but if you find the most recent posts on relevant topics to you they're normally 100% thorough and helpful

>> No.4741643

>>4738720
>that run at 240p
All VC games, original and injected, (except maybe N64, not sure) run at 240p, you have to enable it first though.

>> No.4741657

>>4741643
N64 VC all runs 480i (or 480p). Some early versions of VC releases also didn't have 240p mode.

>> No.4741703

My one issue with the Wii is Majora's Mask.

The PAL version is 50hz, that much is a given. On my TV anything PAL60 looks fine, but NTSC is just monochrome. Just forcing PAL60 on most NTSC games I have works fine with that, but doing so on Majora's Mask VC (NTSC) produces stuttering. I checked everyfucking where, people keep suggesting to use stuff like freethewads but that doesn't have the desired effect. The game does run, just stutters. Funny thing is, Super Mario 64 VC NTSC works perfectly.

>> No.4741713

can I run dreamcast on retroarch on a wii?

what about running Linux on a wii u and installing retroarch onto that? I'm tryin to find the most powerful piece of hardward I can that can reliably output digital and analog signals to be able to game on crt and modern tvs and I really would like to be able to do ps2/dreamcast/xbox titles, is this possible?

>> No.4741724

No, xbox emulation sucks balls, dreamcast emulation is pretty good and ps2 emulation is only good if your pc is a beast of a machine. The most xbox emulation progress has happened this year and its still pretty shitty. I would reccommend buying a ps2 and xbox and mod them to play backups or from hdd. The dreamcast can already play backups say for a few models.

This is your only option.

>> No.4741732

>>4741724
was this meant for me?
>>4741713

>> No.4741769

>>4741732
Yes, are you gay or something?

>> No.4741779

>>4741769
n-no

so the wii u isn't powerful enough to deliver what I want apparently....im thinking I may have to custom build a new pc with a nice cpu and a older gpu that can output in s video to do the emulation I want

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>>4741779
It still wont be good enough for xbox emulation, because xbox emulation is fucking disgusting at the moment and ps2 emulation isnt perfect. Dreamcast emulation would be your best bet, but again its not perfect. It would cost you less money to buy each system and mod them to play backups than to build an uber pc that still cant play xbox games.

Like i said before, this IS your ONLY option!

>> No.4742071

>>4700750
Why people don't push this console a bit more? Imagine the gba emulator with some multiplayer features. It would be fucking amazing.

>> No.4742091

>>4741713
>can I run dreamcast on retroarch on a wii?
Considering you can't do that even on a PC, i doubt it friend.

>> No.4742131

>>4742091
you cant emulate a dreamcast on a pc?

>> No.4742170

>>4742071

It took almost the Wii's entire lifespan to get one GBA screen emulated at full speed, I can't imagine there's any power left to add a second. It would be cool though, agreed.

>> No.4743269

>>4742170
anyone know how to run gamecube isos and wii off disk

>> No.4743623

>>4743269
gc: nintendont
wii: usb loader gx

>> No.4743628

>>4742131
I mean the DC cores in Retroarch are practically useless in their current state.

>> No.4743629

Is there any way to use the Wii U Pro Controller with my Wii?

>> No.4744085

Is there a way to use this piece of shit without a wiimote?

>> No.4744751

>>4743629
Yep, hit sync on both the controller and the Wii like you'd do with a regular Wiimote, use it in homebrew that supports it.

>> No.4745547

>>4744085
Yes. Read the topic.

>> No.4746496

>>4737472
Jesus Christ, this is great. It should be in the OP next time.

>> No.4746521

>>4746496

They're great but all his cores seem to have this weird issue where Gamecube controllers are only detected if a Wiimote is turned on. I've never seen anything like it, don't know if it's just me.

>> No.4746525

>>4700750
Classic Pro.
NES, Sega Master System, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, PC Engine, and GBA.

>> No.4746836

what should i look for in a crt? widescreen with component in?

>> No.4746972

>>4746836
for retro widescreen no. Component in is nice, just make sure it's not an HD TV. If it has HDMI or DVI avoid.

If you're in yuroland you won't often see Component, SCART RGB is similar and very common.

>> No.4746990

>>4700750
>Mega Man II is still my favorite
same. I play it all the time in my retro mancave when the wife is out at the gym with her african-american fitness instructor

>> No.4747082

>>4737472
>last updated march 2017
sad

>> No.4747112

>>4746990
You forgot your tripcode.

>> No.4747203

>>4743628
w-whats wrong with them?

>> No.4747208

>>4723338
>Goomba Color is what you're looking for. Most GB games run fine. Most GBC games are fine, but I've ran into some slowdown on a handful of games.
thx, although the one game I was trying to play (q*bert) doesn't seem to work, oh well. also ninja-five o doesn't work on my old GBA flash, just my luck.

>> No.4747982

>>4746836
Definitely not widescreen, Component is essential. A good japanese brand would be a bonus but it doesn't have to be Sony or anything. 20-27" maximum - the bigger you get the more geometry/convergeance problems it's likely to have.
>>4747203
Highly incompatible, you can't even save your game and there are no save states, you have to set the RTC every time you start them, graphics glitches everywhere and most games will crash/not even boot.

>> No.4748164

>>4747982
rtc?

so is there a smooth emulator for dreamcast outside of retroarch?

>> No.4748427

>>4747082

The compiled cores in the zip actually have updates from this year, if you check the readme. Not that there's much to update, most Wii stuff is years old including the last official version of retroarch that wasn't completely borked.

>> No.4749724

>>4748427
thanks

>> No.4749835

>>4748164
Real Time Clock.
And yeah Demul is the way to go.

>> No.4750189

>>4749835
what about nulldc?