/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4702794
what?

>>4702789
I actually did a test regarding this subject yesterday. I tested input delay on my PS1 plugged into a CRT, then the same game on my super slim PS3 plugged into a very, very low latency monitor. The PS3 did add a small amount of input delay. It was most obvious when navigating menus with audio cues. I’m still going to test my PS3 plugged into my CRT, though. I’ll post those results in this thread if it’s still up.

I know this doesn’t exactly answer your question but I can confirm that emulating via PS3 adds a small amount of delay. However I’ve never experienced audio issues.

This man does not represent me

>>4702802
The amount of input delay on my low latency monitor is basically negligible, so perhaps on a 40 inch television set it would be exacerbated.

Not OP here, I ran Tekken 3 disc on my PS3 yesterday on my 52" LCD TV and I didn't notice any input lag.

>>4702802
>>4702807
He probably just needs to discover his TV's "game mode" setting and enjoy not only nearly ideal PS1 gameplay but also dramatically improved PS3 gameplay.

>>4702810
naniii?!

>>4702789
Actual informed fellow here. PS1 BC adds input lag, this is without the shadow of a doubt. I never encountered issues with music (perhaps you can elaborate more about that). When you try both the PS1 and PS3 on the same CRT and experience input lag on the latter there's no game modeing around, the thing's fucked. If you're playing games like Wipeout or some other stuff with the need for quick reaction, look someplace else (PS1 and PS2 are both fine), never the less it is a good way to play PS1 games with no immediate reaction requirements (unless the unit is defective).

>>4702952
Yes, but 0.5-1 seconds is a huge exaggeration

I noticed that PS1 games on PS3 have like a grainy filter to them, even on CRT.
You're better off getting some cheapo PS2 slim or something.

>>4703061
they fix overscan though.

>>4702952
>>4703061
>hooking up a PS3 to a CRT

>>4703138
How else would you play fighting games?
It also helped reduce input lag on Bayonetta (yeah, I played that shit port, I platinum'd it)

>>4703061
>PS1 games on PS3 have like a grainy filter to them, even on CRT.

It's called dithering and all PS1 games feature some form of that (really the only way to evade dithering is to not use 3D/semi transparency or generate graphics using the CPU). It only becomes more noticeable on 480i and with high-quality inputs.

The input lag is just there and it's unavoidable, the PS3 can't output in the PS1's native resolution after all. It's shouldn't be anywhere near that bad though, just make sure you're either on a full charge of plugged in. I've only ever noticed it with rhythm games.

I have experienced music problems with PS1 since switching to a bigger hard drive though, mainly stuttering. I'll be watching the thread for answers.

>>4703141
If you're talking controllers you can use ps3/4 on ps2 with homebrew or get the brook ps3/ps4 to ps2 adapter, or get a ps2 stick...

>>4703504
No I mean, I won't settle for anything that isn't a CRT when playing games that require precise reaction time.

>>4702910
lol I bet this is OP and he didn't google game mode.

>>4703138
When I bought my PS3, flat TVs where around €3000.

I played on a CRT until the price of the tvs dropped.

>>4703540

That's probably not true, I bought a 42in plasma around when the PS3 came out for $600.

>>4703540
If you don't want lag play on a fucking ps2 then, rgb and component both just work

>>4703542
Comparing the US prices to the EU.

>>4703575
Since when did I complain about lag?

>>4703659

And I'm saying that's probably not true, there's no reason an EU TV should cost what was probably 8x as much at the time after currency exchange.

You're quoting the top Bravia TV or something as what TVs at the time actually cost.

>>4703665
We only had Bravias in early 2007. The other brands were not 1080p.

>>4703692
Actually you probably wanted a 720p TV back then. It's not like seventh gen consoles were really capable of 1080p. One of the most interesting games of the generation from a technical perspective was Wipeout Pure. The game usually ran at 1080p, one of the few that could, and it always ran at 60 fps no matter what was going on on screen at the time. But in order to accomplish this, the game would monitor how much the PS3 was struggling and would dynamically lower the resolution from frame to frame as needed to maintain 60 fps. It would switch to a variety of resolutions, including 1280x1024, for whatever reason.

I've never heard of another game doing this.

Anyway, a 720p TV would display most games at native res, except for stuff that couldn't even manage 720p.

>>4703707
Almost all "720p" TVs were actually 768p, meaning nothing displayed at native res.

>>4703707
I'm still using the same TV from 2008 today. Just for tv, tho.

For gaming I have a newer one.

>>4703659
sorry, meant to reply to >>4703507

>>4702804
Nope. You're represented by the man who pops in and posts un needed bullshit. I represent you, gramps

>>4702789
>what have gone wrong?
Another underage emufag shitposted about lag in a desperate attempt to justify their poorfaggotry

>>4703540
>When I bought my PS3, flat TVs where around €3000.
why are you lying?

>>4703718
Was it really that rare? Both DLP TVs I had were native 720p

>>4704184
Are you sure? As the other anon pointed out many TVs were incorrectly called 720. Also, you understand a DLP "TV" isn't really a TV, right?

Cool off topic thread u guise ,':^)

>>4704181
>why are you lying?
Excuse me?

>>4703659
>>4703665
I live in Mexico and the only reason we had good LCDs back then was because we bought them cheaper in the US. Unfortunately, that has always been the case for pretty much any electronics, so you would save money by living on the cities close to the boarder.

>>4704576
So I need to move from Spain to Mexico?

Is the cartel going to kill me?

>>4703138
>tfw ps3 on CRT over composite
Just makes me appreciate my retro games more

>>4703259
>I have experienced music problems with PS1 since switching to a bigger hard drive though, mainly stuttering. I'll be watching the thread for answers.
>>4702952
> I never encountered issues with music (perhaps you can elaborate more about that).

OP here, all ps1 games seems to have music at 80-90% speed. It really is noticable, and makes the games just unplayable, even if it wasn't for the input lag. I am using 500 GB HD with Slim(not super slim) model. bin or cue files ftped to the console.

>using CRT
all of my CRTs gave up, so sold PSone . that is no longer an option. Using images of the games I owned. ePSXe gives the best results so far, the image, unless hand drawn like in resident evil or some 2D games, looks really crisp thanks to increasing internal resolution. The input lag is also noticably lower than in PS3 emulation.

>>4703534
sadly, not all LCD TVs have game mode

>>4704567
why are you lying about tv-prices in 2006?

>>4703540
Bullshit.

>>4705095
I'm sure he's talking about 16:9 HDTVs. The TVs in red are 4:3 SDTVs, little if any better than HDTVs

>>4705153
A 42-inch plasma HDTV was only 1,630 euros in 2006. He's full of shit saying they cost 3000.

>>4705172
Really? How was that possible?

>>4705021
Learn to read.
>>4703692
>We only had Bravias in early 2007. The other brands were not 1080p.

>>4705153
I'm talking about 16:9 HDTVs.

>>4705172
LCDs where almost twice the price of a plasma.

>>4705521
stop lying