/vr/ - Retro Games

I don't see why the lack of select button is a problem, seeing as that button's barely used, and most consoles that even HAVE a select button could leave enough buttons left over on the Saturn controller to just map it to the Z button or something.

I often switch between either the aforementioned Saturn controller or a Dualshock 2.

How's the d-pad on the saturn?

>>4700495
It's a smaller genesis pad that feels nicer. It feels more like an arcade stick than other d-pads. I would still use a SNES pad for SNES games, but the Saturn pad is fine for any pc, arcade or Sega console game

>>4700134
>What are your favorite controllers for emulation.
Saturn controller.
>>4700495
Best available. Hands down.

>>4700134
I rarely play using an emulator except mobile but if I did I'd either use an original controller from whatever console I was emulating or an arcade stick. If I fell for the saturn pad meme I'd probably add another 3 buttons.

Is the retrolink saturn control any good?

>>4701747
I like mine. It's almost as good as my JP Saturn pad. Kinda stiff at first, but once you wear it in the face buttons feel good. Shoulder buttons are harder to press down and the D-pad isn't as flexible as a real one, though it shouldn't affect gameplay that much. Also, if you end up disliking it, you can gut the internals and stick them inside a real Saturn pad rather than use a USB adapter which adds input lag.

>>4701834
good luck doing that with the 3D pad.

Maybe get this, though I haven't tried it so I'm not sure.

>>4701874
Segata Sanshiro would be absolutely revolted by the existence of that thing.

>>4700495

It's like having sex

>>4701887
Segata Sanshiro is playable in more games on NON-SEGA platforms than he is on Sega platforms.

>>4700495
The absolute best d-pad on any controller.

>>4701936
Disgraceful.

>>4700495
only rivaled by neo geo pocket stick

>>4701913
I've heard those break super easily. If that's not true, I'd like to get one.

Recommendation?

>>4700495
d-pad is over hyped by fight fags. it’s on a par with the classic nes cross design with maybe a 1-5% extra precision depending on the game

>>4700134
I recommend pic related for everything up to and including the 16-bit era

>>4702063
Donno. Im looking at getting one, but if thats the case

>>4702063
I have been using it for like 4 years now, it doesnt break super easily, i've dropped it a lot of times, and my kid stepped on it once, and it's still in one piece.
Just a warning, the D-pad isn't textured so your thumb kinda slips, but if you get used to that, its an ok controller, the shoulder buttons suck ass tho.

>>4700134
There are the Playstation Saturn controllers that have select buttons. The Saturn controller has enough buttons by default for most of my emulation needs.

SNES = I use YZBC for the Super Nintendo's face buttons, L&R are matched, X&A are start and select.

MAME = Saturn face buttons are buttons 1-6 (enough for 85% of games), L to insert credit, R to pause MAME, and start button for start! If I opt to use the Playstation Saturn controller, I use the select button to take a screencap.

NeoGeo/MVS = varies depending on game, some use only 3 buttons, some I like to map punches on top kicks on bottom, for a rare case which I've not encountered which may need 4 buttons across I can opt to use AXYZ or ABCR.

Genesis maps 1-to-1, more than enough buttons for all portables, PCE, and NES.

N64 - I'd use another controller with an analog stick, but with the AKI Wrestling games, I do use the Sega Saturn pad. L&R for L&R, XYBC for the C direction buttons, X mapped to N64 B, and A is still A. Start is matched. For the taunts to activate the spirit meter, I don't mind mapping the analog directions to the keyboard directions.


I also like a lot of modern controllers too for emulation if I need twin sticks or the analog triggers for pedals. The Hori EX2 and Wii-U pro controller are pretty good for emulation to me.


>>4700495
It is my favorite. Probably the best I can execute in fighting games.


>>4701747
Since I am very familiar with the real ones, no. For most others, I think the shape on its own may be alright for a budget. I am eagerly awaiting RetroBit's USB releases of the pad and I hope they are up to the quality of authentic SLS ones.

there are new official sega controllers coming out soon using the original molds in bluetooth, usb, and original connector

8bitdo snes controller for NES, snes, pc-engine, master system emulation.
N64 controller for N64, Genesis and saturn emulation.
Dualshock 3 for PS1,PS2 emulation.
Xbox one controller for dreamcast and gamecube.
And wii mote for wii emulation.

>>4702223

>>4702223
>>4702365
Do all the Dpads of each SLS USB Sega Saturn controller feel the same? Because I have the white one with different colored buttons that I'm pretty sure is authentic, especially because it came with the original box, but it feels different than the Dpads on all of my non-USB Sega Saturn controllers and those feel better.

>>4700134
The ones on the left are the Hori pad EX2, which has 6 face buttons, 2 analog sticks, decent D-pad, analog triggers, and that select button you crave (it's called a back button though). that may suit a lot of emulation needs. However the Wii-U pro pads have a symmetrical design layout for its two sticks, great for Smash TV or Virtual On, but it does not have analog triggers.


>>4702365
That controller porn is wonderful. I am jealous. I want all of that too. Ever since I destroyed a single Sega Saturn pad over years of intense GGPO play, I had to make sure I have backups just in case. That is why I am so hoping the new RetroBit reproduction ones are like the originals.


>>4702379
Even on the original Sega Saturn pads, I did not like the white ones as much, that's why it was the controller I used to destroy in years of intense GGPO play. The triggers clacked instead of clicked like all other Sega Saturn pads. However, the D-pad I don't think was much different. The cheap Retrolink ones that are everywhere use a non-textured D-pad disc and the silicone underneath are angled plus uses less material as a cost cutting measure which feels different to me. The holes are the same so the two plastic pieces for the d-pad can be swapped. The top disc of a D-pad that is visible cups a hemisphere underneath for its pivot action and the post from its center leads down to a cross-shaped activator which presses the membranes making contact to complete a circuit. It seems simple, but Sega was trying ways to reduce costs all the time themselves as well. Maybe those newer USB pads are the final revisions that doesn't jive with me. That is why I stuck with the older original ones.

I've accumulated a diverse selection to tackle whatever game I come across.
But I don't actually know which of the gamepads are my absolute favorite.
I suppose I'm a bit biased towards the Dualshock 2 since I grew up with the PS1 and PS2.

>>4702543
Well if that's even a small portion of "whatever" then you've led a very sheltered life. I think I actually have more unique 2600 controllers than there are things in that pic total.

>>4702774
I don't feel the need to spend any more money on any more controllers. I'm not a collector, nor do I feel like acquiring several different variants of the same controller type like in the pics above. Really, the only thing I'd feel like adding to right now is a N64 controller, but I hear the analog sticks on them tridents don't hold up very well from use, and the Saturn 3D Pad has worked strangely well for me on N64 games, as blasphemous and weird as that may sound.

>>4701865
Why would you wanna play 3D games with the NiGHTS pad? The 360 controller is superior in every way.

>>4702827
360 controller doesn't work on the saturn

>>4702861
We were talking about using controllers via USB to play games on computers.

Try to keep up, lad.

>>4702795
>i'm poor
>it took me nearly 100 words to say that

>>4703786
there is literally nothing wrong with being poor

>>4703795
There is. And being poor and stupid is even worse.

>>4704006
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

>>4704028
>tfw heaven is full of poorfags whos only eternal rewards are 0 lag emulation and 0 lag wireless controllers

I'm getting a Sega Master System controller. Basically everyone I know has the NES USB controller and I'm over it. I love the design of the MS 3020 controllers.

>OP is complaining about not having a select button
Nigga im not going to have a START button.

>>4704240
I hear the Master System D-Pads damage real easily.
That and the aforementioned lack of Start/Select are probably why those pads aren't very popular.

I see a lot of posts about Saturn style USB controllers but none for Saturn USB adapters. Any recommended brands? Preferably ones that will work on newer consoles but that isn't a primary concern.

>>4705323
Bump because I accidentally saged this post.

>>4702124
>it’s on a par with the classic nes cross design
The NES controllers are awful though as they're extremely rough on your thumb.

>>4705323
Can't speak from personal experience because I've always made my own but bliss box has been around for a while, clearly know what they're doing, and seem to make quality stuff.

>>4706327
Sixty dollars just for Saturn support is a bit ridiculous. It looks like a good investment if you want to use literally every controller but I don't.
I ended up going with a Mayflash adapter that does Saturn, PS2 and N64. I only really wanted Saturn but paying an extra two dollars over the model that only does Saturn so I can have PS2 support seems pretty reasonable. Has anyone used this particular model? I know Mayflash are seen as a good brand of adapter around here.

Whats the best Saturn Arcade stick to buy in 2018? Are there any ones to avoid because of reliability issues? I'm one controller short of 8 player Saturn bomberman so I figure I may as well get something a little different since it wont be used very often otherwise