/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4691404
not good. they'll flood the market soon

pce fans bitch about pceworks but at least you can find logos and imperfections. these n64 bootlegs don't really look any different except the labels are newer

why does it matter? if they play identical and look the same I'm happy to see the supply increased. now prices will drop

>>4691404
and all of that only because n64-emulation sucks and people stick to the hardware.

I tend to value things that are newer and prettier.

I would love to buy cartridge and CD reproductions with manuals extras and shit. I don't give a shit about it being original, as long as it's not trying to pass of as being legit.

If it has a logo identifying it as a repro, it's all right.

>>4691427
>If it has a logo identifying it as a repro
As far as I know, they don't. You have to trust the seller to tell you it's a repro or identify it yourself
And there's already scammers passing the repros off as originals, of course
That said, all I care about is whether they work properly or not. Spending 200+ on a legit Conker just ain't gonna happen

GET FUCKED -COLLECTORS DE LA TRASH-

the one on the left is a real cart
the one on the right if fake

>>4691413
>now prices will drop

Nope. Now people can sell bootlegs as legit and charge as if they actually were.

>>4691470
>left
>right

>>4691495
>image has flipped on upload
>Can't fucking read the text on the cart to see what way the image is facing
>here's your (You)

>>4691470
If I had to choose I would pick the left one because of the yellowing to the label, but I don't think either of those is fake. More likely the board is fake and was stuck into a legit shell.

>>4691502

>>4691502
The Nintendo label on the back of the right cart is fatter and weirdly in engraved into the cart

>>4691404
if an idiot falls for these it's on them. fakes have poorly cut corners on the labels and are never centered properly. the labels are too sharp and bright and often have graphical errors such as using a shitty render of the ESRB logo. the carts are the wrong shade of gray and are too glossy.

But why does it have the PAL seal of quality?

>>4691497
>this mad over a joke
What's with all these turboautists
Take a chill pill m8

Collectorfags BTFO

I'm going to start including pictures of the PCB on my eBay listings and charge like $10 more than I would normally, just because I know you'll buy them.

>>4691471
>what is market dynamics

>>4691525
/thread

>>4691404
BFD is a shit game anyway.

>>4691471
Who gives a shit if it's a bootleg or not really just the autists normies couldn't care less if it costs less and is just as good they don't give a shit. People only care about bootlegging if the ripoffs are of lower quality which with a bunch of plastic it's negligible unless you are using really cheap plastic. That shit only matters to spastics with ocd autism

>>4691569
The single player is yes. Like what is it really you go from location to location on a very rail roaded path and do what? Like the platforming and action isn't even that good. You just go through the story that's all there is to it. The multiplayer was fuckin great though war was amazing and the tank game was fun and heist was also a blast

>>4691512
Nah, I think that's just the way the picture was taken. I've seen plenty of labels that look like that.

So does anyone actually have one of these? Have they played it? Is it good or just chink gameboy level garbage that stops working after a few hours?
I can understand the appeal of collecting games but if reproductions are functionally the same as the real deal, then this is a perfect way for old games to stay in circulation instead of getting slapped on digital stores for 6-10$, which everyone hates

>>4691595
I have it. It works fine. It didn’t save, however. I soldered in an EEPROM from an Excitebike cart for the game to save to, which worked. All the comments on AliExpress since I bought mine seem to indicate that saving works, but I was told by the seller that it didn’t so I’m not sure if this was something that got fixed ar some point. I’ve had it since the N64 fakes first started showing up at the end of 2016. Cheap chink shit is mostly a meme, it’s usually good for what it is.

Just emulate and you won't have to deal with shit like this.

>ESRB Rating
>EUR product code
They're both fake.

>>4691635
>I soldered in an EEPROM
How difficult is it to do this?
Also, how long do EEPROMs usually last? I assume they last more than batteries on Gameboy games but I can't find a clear cut answer on them

>>4691413

I think the repros are still too expensive. $20 for a fake cart? Please.

>>4691497
>image has flipped on upload
open your image in a program which doesn't support the orientation EXIF-tag.
4chan is stripping all EXIF-tags upon upload

>>4691535
>and charge like $10 more than I would normally
make it 30

>>4691728
Why not?

>>4691728
eventually it will be all that we have left. The chips and and PCB components will eventually break due to corrosion.

>>4691716
Lifespan is read/write related. I think they’re rated for 10k read/writes. Probably not too easy for a complete beginner since I had to desolder the EEPROM from an Excitebike 64 cart. This seems to be the only option, I think the EEPROMs were some proprietary Nintendo BS. I couldn’t find an off the shelf part that met the needs. As far as installing it the pirate cart didn’t have a dedicated spot for the EEPROM so I just wired it to the cart pins. I made a post about it on assembler games that you could probably find easily.

>ebay still doesn't accept repro's
>open game up, find repro, open case, get money back, keep game
I suspect a lot of people are going to be filling out their N64 game collections soon.

>>4692554

They don't? So the people selling them are just unaware of that or simply think the risk is worth it?

>a bloo bloo they're ruining prices of my genuine special snowflake rom carts!!!!!

you shouldn't have paid more than 20 bucks for a videogame bub

>>4692760
that's the point, they will try to pass a repro as an genuine item for a chance that the soyboy spending money on ancient mario games won't notice and be happy that the game works

>>4691413
collection value

CD master race wins again

>>4691409
Except the PCB and eproms used are wildly different...

>>4692846
disc rot

>>4692846
>can be reproduced even easier than cartridges
>data literally deteriorates over time
>easy to scratch and break
Lmao, yeah uh, master race...

>>4692875
>tfw no ODE for ps2 and OPL/POPStarter is shit

The only thing I don't like about repros is that I feel like I might as well just buy a flash cart most of the time.

>>4693128
Maybe you should? Why the fuck are you buying repros in the first place? The whole point of having the physical cartridge is to get the authentic experience. Why waste money on something that isn't even authentic when you could buy a flashcart and get every game?

>>4691569
>((you))

>>4691413
if you just wanna play the games it's fine but if you're a collector you pretty much get screwed because "muh value".

it's one of those things where people only see it as a bad thing if they're on the wrong end of it.

>>4693174
Why do people constantly say this? Repros are a good option if you’ve already got most of the games you want but are missing a few expensive ones you might not want to shell out for.

>>4693449
So then buy a fucking flashcart for the same or less money? I don't get the point of purchasing a non-authentic game when you could just buy a flashcart. Obviously if you're collecting individual games you want the authentic experience, which buying repros undermines.

How are these in regards to quality and saving?
Can they damage the system?

>>4691404
>bad

>>4693452
Personally I had every game I wanted except BFD. I paid $20 for a repro. That’s cheaper than a flash cart. How does that not make sense to you?

>>4693465
>spends who knows how much money buying authentic hardware just for the sake of having authentic hardware
>isn't willing to drop $80 on one final game or spend almost the same amount to get a flashcart that lets him play every single game without even touching the real games
Yeah you're fucking retarded, enjoy your chink shit.

>>4693047
Replacement lens for the SCPH-9xxxx are cheap and plentiful. I have a box with 20 original Sony lens.

>>4693479
>thinks everyone is like him and started collecting games after YouTube made it look cool
>is bitter because he got memed into spending too much money
Nice projection, kid.

>>4693491
Lmao, I own 0 physical games kiddo. I use flashcarts or emulate for everything because I'm not legitimately retarded like yourself. I just think it's funny how you'd waste your own money buying authentic hardware and then jew out on the last game because you weren't willing to spend pocket change on the real thing. It just makes no sense. You're literally paying money for a ROM on a fake piece of plastic just so your greasy little fingers have something to grasp, not even getting to hold the actual game with history behind it.

Where can I find a high quality N64 flash cart?

>>4693495
Dropping an lmao usually means someone got triggered so I’m just going to go on with life assuming I hit the nail on the head.

>>4693508
>Dropping an lmao usually means someone got triggered so I’m just going to go on with life assuming I hit the nail on the head.
In this case lmao literally means I'm laughing at you for being retarded enough to spend money on a ROM, but whatever helps you sleep. Stay retarded my friend.

I don’t think I’d buy a repro cart, but I have no issues buying repro boxes. Makes the shelves look 100x nicer and feels a lot better than storing loose carts. And included boxes always drove up the cost of the game so much that just the cart + a nicer looking repro box comes off cheaper

>>4693512
nothing wrong with that. the box just serves as a way to protect the game, so nothing wrong with having it at least look good. i have mine in some of those clear plastic universal cases, really need to get some inserts printed.

Where's a cheap place to get an English copy of marvelous and star fox 2? I don't see them on aliexpress and they don't play on flash carts.

>>4693524
>they don't play on flash carts
>star fox 2

As a matter of fact, several days ago some guy wrote a beta code to run Super FX based games on the SD2SNES so you could try out SF2. It's still a little unstable of course but it's an improvement at least. Can't say anything about improvements on SA-1 chip support to play games like Marvelous on it yet.

>>4693465
>I paid $20 for a repro
>paying for 1 illegal copy of 1 game
yeah, might as well go the whole nine yards and buy a flashcart

>>4693509
>literally
I love when one can easily start to identify posters by their typing habits.

>>4693827
Yes, one can, quite easily, yes. For example, I can identify you as a homosexual. Yes, quite.

>>4693849
Takes one to know one doesn't it?

Holy fuck is this thread proof that emu/flashcard fags are the most butt blasted cucks on the planet?

>>4691470
The "Nintendo" engraved on the cartridges is a dead give away.

>>4693496
Everdrive.

>>4691404
I like this
Collectorfags BTFO

>>4691728
>$20
>expensive
Maybe collecting anything, real or fake, isn't for you.

>>4693496
Try the chink sites like alibaba, silly namefag.

>>4692874
a seller is not going to open up the fucking cartridge

use your brain dude

>people unironically complaining about something that only benefits the retro market

/vr/ posters are complete retards

>>4693957
>>4694603
>>4694693
samefag.

>>4691404
If I'm going to buy a fake cart, I'd want it to at least have more than just one game.

>>4694768
Can you play more than one game at the same time?
"No!"
checkmate.

I wish they'd stop dicking around with nintendo games and start making repros of ps1 games and sega cd games.

If a chinese factory could shit out a 1000 copies of tron bonne they could make a decent profit.

>>4694001
>engraved
kek

>>4696000
its a CD, you can shit out your own.

>>4696330
I think you get what I mean.

>>4692839
I measure my collection in potential entertainment then dollars.

See: all my burnt games.

>being a collector

You deserve this.

>>4696618
>inb4 >>4694717 calls you a samefag for disagreeing with the collectorfag hivemind

>>4692778
Yeah seriously. N64 games were dirt cheap for an extremely long time you only got yourself to blame for deciding now when everything is priced out the ass and full of bootlegs is the right time to start buying them again and you wind up getting gypped.

>>4696497
I do. I speak conversational underage.

>mfw i sell N64 bootlegs using those boards from MortOfGames.
>mfw i sell them at double what they cost for me including the shell which i salvage from shitty sports games.
>mfw just in the last weeek ive sold 2 copies of Conker, 1 Worms Armagedon and 1 Bangai-O.

Of course i tell them theyre bootlegs, but they actually dont care since they just want to play the games. Only people caring about muhh collection muhhh market are literal retarded manchildren, fuck those guys, ill be flooding the market with my repros until all of theyre collections are worth a penny.

>>4696692
I don't care if people are upfront about it what gets my dick in a hot female dog's anus in the middle of the woods at 3AM is when people try to pass off their fakes as legitimate copies.

>>4691660
That's also not what the actual label looks like for the US version of the game, at all. About the only thing they got right was the game logo.

>>4696650
>remember feeling ripped off buying Conker and Paper Mario from a Gamestop in 2004 for $20 each
>these fucking games should be cheaper, they're like 4 years old
>Paper Mario is now ~$45
>Conker is ~$70
I've made worse decisions, I guess.

>>4693449
Because Flashcarts are just more convenient in general. I've got basically all the N64 games I play already, but the Flashcart stays in my system because it's easier to just use that than swap out the cartridge.

Plus, getting Custom Robo was pretty nice when that finally got translated.

>>4696730
>but the Flashcart stays in my system
Congrats on slowing killing your console.

>>4696743
wow i guess i'll have to just buy another one for $20

rip me

>>4696748
*$60

>>4696752
$20

>>4696754
Say that again fucker. I dare you. Do it.

>>4696759
$20.

>>4696760

>>4696762
$20.

>>4696000
if they could press psx-cds which don't need modchips, I think they would have done them 15 years ago

>>4696743
whee, another one who hasn't read the fucking article he's referencing.

>>4696730
>too lazy to exert minimal force to swap cartridges

>>4691471
When supply increases, prices usually go down. A single cartridge is worth more is there are 100 of them in the world than if there are 10000

>>4693452
>authentic experience
I don't get what you mean by this. How is playing on a bootleg cartridge not going to provide you with the authentic experience? If they're done properly, there should be no differences.

>>4697174
>y not use auttentic cartridge not gib auttentic sperienze?

>>4693465
It's retarded because the Xbox version is the same price as your fake piece of junk, and it actually runs at a non-nauseating framerate. Patch out the censorship and now you have the definitive version of the game.

>>4698036
>Live and Reloaded
>definitive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Dtg6S6tCA

Not with the entire game censored, an inferior (and nonfunctional, now that Xbox Live is down for the original Xbox) multiplayer mode, and missing the graphical similarity to the N64 platformers that it's parodying.

>>4698036
Why would you not play the Xbone version on Rare Replay if you're not going to play it on the original console anyway?

>>4693047
>OPL is shit

No it's not

>>4691404
If a fake is indistinguishable from an authentic cart, does it matter whether your copy is real? (I know that there are differences currently in the PCBs, but I ask hypothetically).

>>4697227
What's even authentic about a cartridge? Even official ones are copies of the gold master, the silicon and plastic were mass produced just the same now as they were then.

The game is the subject, and the game's code is as authentic as any other copy.

Unless the experience you're after is the smell and taste of the physical housing.

>>4698516
No shit, they're both made of plastic, does that mean a copy of the declaration of independence is the same thing as the original just because the two are functionally the same on an atomic level? It's about the history, the hands that held it before you, the thought of owning something from the past. Come on nigger, there's no way you're too dense to understand the emotional appeal of having what essentially constitutes an antique. Please tell me you aren't this retarded.

>>4693442
>if you're a collector
My vantage point is that IF you are a collector, you can tell repros from real deal and will be looking for NIB for your collection, and not even screwing around with open box and incomplete games.

Who really cares about repro. I screw the industry every time I use a flash cart.

>>4698793
so basically it's not even about playing the actual game

>>4696743
The same guy who wrote that article just happens to also be a competitor to flashcarts. He made some shit up to scare retards like you into buying his shit.

I'd re-buy my whole 64 collection if I could get them all pre-patched with the vaseline filter gone.

It's fucking annoying using the shitty ass gameshark to remove it.

>>4696931
That's not what I'm referencing you fucking moron. Now A K TO THE Y TO THE S!

>>4698875
THAT
IS
NOT
WHAT
I'M
FUCKING
TALKING
ABOUT

>>4691404
Don't buy rare games unless they show a photo of the PCB. Even then make sure to get a gamebit screwdriver so you can check. If you can't be assed to buy a $2 specialty screwdriver then you should not be spending $100 on an old Nintendo game on eBay.

Also, beware of conventions. A good seller will be cool with it if you ask to see inside a cartridge before you buy it.

>>4698359
yes, it is.
too many quirks and incompatibilities

>>4699575
With USB maybe but with HDD I think it just about has 100% compatibility and no huge quirks I can think of

>>4699578
more of 80% ~~90%

>>4699579
With HDD? Don't think so.

>>4698793
Some people prefer the game over the housing. It's fine if you prefer the latter but don't get ridiculous and think that everyone else has to share in your own little autism bubble. Me preferring the game and seeing such a history in the game itself is just as valid an opinion as your own "retarded" affinity for plastic and cardboard.
>if you don't like exactly what I like you're a retarded nigger
You sound legitimately autistic or at least, underage.

>>4699579
That 10-20% must be pretty shit games because I haven't come across any issues.

>>4697171
>flood the market with fakes
>think it's going to solve the problem

>>4691470
Always check the 'e' in Nintendo. For whatever reason, bootleggers can't get the letter to look right.

Anyone else here make their own repros?

>>4691470
Another thing to look out for is some sort of number stamped into the back label. I can't tell from that particular picture, but I imagine bootlegs lack that stamp.

>>4701631
literally what's the point