/vr/ - Retro Games

Still the king of 4x.

>>468279
>grandaddy of 4X games

Grandaddy and gold standard. Puts so many games made even in the 2010's to absolute shame.

>>468279
Calling it now, with the VDC mod it's the greatest game of all time. Only thing that can compete is Alpha Centauri.

>>468351
>VDC mod


Does that work nicely with DOSBOX? Orion95 always shits the bed for me while DOS runs smooth as butter.

I hated having to disable ship customization so the AI wouldnt get crushed so easy.

>>468378
Nice. I'll give VDC another shot.

>>468360
It always worked fine for me. Tried it with DOSbox first, never had any issues sans for some minor sound glitches.

>>468362
I always enjoyed throwing the save game into an editor and pumping the "Impossible" AI's up even more.

Good thing they stopped after II.

>>468405
but they didn't... in my mind they did though.

>>468405
Haha. Good one.

>>468405
If only, anon. If only.

>>468405
MoO3 could have been good man. So. Fucking. Good.

But it wasn't ;_;

It's maybe my favorite game ever.

>>468279
>MoO2
Holy fuck, I must have played that game for at least 1000 hours. Good times.

Brb, gonna install it again.

>>468360
Orion95 works for me, but I have to shut down explorer in the task manager before running it. Otherwise I get awful color distortion. I use DOSbox if I want to screenshot stuff while playing, though.

Started a game recently on Hard with Psilons, and god damn has it been easy. What's a good race to pick if you like having some actual challenge?

>>468541
You could always make a shit Custom race or play as a the Bulrathi on impossible.

>>468554
>shit Custom race


And you get that delicious points modifier endgame.

Stellar converter.

Great troll or greatest troll?

>>468609
I just wish I could use it on my own toxic planets.
I guess I could just "gift" those planets to the next race I decide to go to war against.

>>468609
Greatest troll is exterminating a population while making them build androids.

They literally build the machines that will replace them after their summary executions.

>>468631

You make it sound so much less fun than it is.

>>468609

I never quite got how using a bio-weapon was a horrible crime that caused every other race in the galaxy to despise you.


But blowing up the entire planet with the stellar converter is just fine, you know?

>>468631
Does seem odd giving an order to exterminate a population and then telling them to start building shit before they die.
It's also bullshit that you have to keep feeding them through the entire process. How am I supposed to ship proper citizens to their planet when they're hogging all our freighters ordering gourmet food during their own genocide?

>>468659

One is crueler than the other, although both are monstrous. Makes sense to me.

MoO2 is AWESOME
I'm ashamed that I always play with the Psilon race. Is it considered as OP, I think it is, but I don't know anyone who ever played it

>>468685

I guess I always thought of it as the analogue to a WMD thing; how it's more acceptable to kill 1000 people with conventional bombs than to kill 500 with sarin gas.

But that the Stellar converter is the ultimate WMD, and I always kind of thought that there should diplo penalties for zapping inhabited worlds.

>>468692

Ehh, creative isn't that great; except for bribing the AI with worthless tech, you don't really need it.

Cybernetic, +50 to hit with beam weapons, Subterraean, and the pluses to industry are where it's really at.

http://www.spheriumnorth.com/orion-forum/nfphpbb/index.php

http://www.spheriumnorth.com/orion-forum/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?t=613

>>468704
To me it's like a "conventional" war on Earth. You might end up seeing a city nuked at some point and regardless of the amount of civilians killed, they're assumed to suffer minimally.

I guess it's just different somehow if that same city gets hit with VX or sarin.

Fuck I'd love a good new 3x game. Shame sins of a solar empire is the closest thing I know of, good game and all but basically an RTS

>>468692
Go UniTol man. Creative is good if you're the only creative race in the galaxy and you must have all the techs.

Though in MP (if you can hold out long enough) a creative democracy is a late game Juggernaut who'll come at you with fleets that black out the skies.

>>468659
Well apparently it's only a horrible war crime if it's a weapon that specifically targets civilians. Stellar Converters don't kill people. It just destroys inanimate structures people happen to live on.

>>468741
>UniTol

>>468692
I see Psilon's as a good starter race if you want the opportunity to see what impact all the tech choices have. Once you get an idea of what's good and what's awesome, give one of the less creative races a go.

>>468809
Just don't pick uncreative until you are good and fucking ready.

>>468820
>uncreative


Terrible trait.

>>468741

Bah, Cybernetic+Subterranean+Industry+1+a negative to ground combat is better.

>>468860
The only terrible thing about it is not being able to research all three of Outpost/Transport/Colony ship.

>>468929
Arguably it sure is. Not sure that's the right jump from playing vanilla Psilon.

>>468279
Utterly god tier game and soundtrack.

I go large, rich, artifacts, Low-g homeworld, bad spying and ground attack, creative, dictatorship. subterranean.

Awesome taste OP

>>468741
But anon, the skies are already black.

You're in space

Is it possible to get a multiplayer game up and running using the GoG release?

>>468967

>The only terrible thing about it is not being able to research all three of Outpost/Transport/Colony ship.

Uh, you get all those techs with uncreative. Are you high?

You couldn't play without colony ships, the game would be broken.

>4X
>a sequel to Fragile Allegiance will never be made

I love uncreative, it's like playing a slot machine. Obviously it's not viable for competitive play, but then neither is creative, in fact creative is the worse choice when playing against competent humans.

>>475192
Yes. You need to explicitly state that your hosting machine is hosting in a config file and explicitly get the PCs that are joining to look for the IP address in their configs since IPX doesn't exist any more

>>475305
>IPX
But DOSBox

How does someone who never played before into MOO2?

>>468967
Huh? Uncreative is easily the worst trait in the game. Its what you take when you want hard mode.

>>479763
here's my strategy guide:

1) explore
2) expand
3) exploit
4) exterminate

hth

>>468659
Bio-weapons cause lingering painful deaths, where as the stellar converter is quick. Plus a bio-weapon could theoretically get out of control and become a galactic plague.

>>479763
Pretty much like any other game. Play some single player games on easy. Turn up the difficulty as you get the hang of things.

>>468279
I got so fixated with master of orion 2 that I can't play another 4x since then. I mean I keep installing them, but I always think, this is not like MOO2 and uninstall them. Fuck.

Do you think one day we will have a proper sequel? Fuck, just read that Atari had the IP rights.

>>481414
We will, once I get my video game company up and running I'll make it.

>>481787
You better get your hands in that IP or I'm not going to kickstart you. I want to play with Psilons, Klackons, Silicoids, etc.

>>481840
No kickstarter but how hard would it be to make an offer to buy the IP?

>>482334
Making an offer wouldn't be hard. Affording it might be.

>>482534
No problem there, the next question is how hard would it be to bring as much as the original team on board as possible?

>>482835
Damned if I know but I imagine it would be a challenge to get even a few of them. From a cursory search, Ken Burd is working for Turbine and Steve Barcia is at EA Canada.