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>buy a controller, use your PC to download all the emulators you need, then download the roms you need, then adjust emulator settings, then research and install the plugins and other fixes you need, then constantly keep tabs on emulators that improve performance, and find ways to combat input lag and any glitches/ incompatibility issues that occur while playing, meanwhile never getting the authentic experience, never having perfect controls or compatibility, and undoubtedly being unable to replicate certain hardware-specific features of a console (e.g. the use of some peripherals, etc.)
>all of this, versus just buying a console, buying game, and playing
Imagine wasting this much of your time and life just to have an inferior experience, all because you aren't willing to spend a small amount of money. If you can't afford the cost of buying yourself a new game every once in awhile, you should be working a second job instead of playing video games. If you can't justify the cost of buying the hundreds of games that emulating allows you to play, then you need to re-evaluate your life and confront the issue of why you're playing hundreds of games in the first place. Emulation is an inferior experience and does nothing but waste your time and life. Just try defending this.

>> No.4682421

wtf i hate emulation now

>> No.4682425

>>4682417
(You)

>> No.4682427

As a hardware fag myself, you're trying WAY too hard here.

>> No.4682428

>>4682417
dumb peanut butter poster

>> No.4682458

>>4682427
>As a hardware fag myself, you're trying WAY too hard here.
I'll take that under advisement.

>> No.4682469

>>4682417
>thinking hardware players just throw their money away like retards and don't take the time to find an actually decent deal
>ignoring screen costs--either shelling out the cash for an OSSC or Framemeistrer, or taking the time to find a not-shit CRT in working condition
Poor bait, son. You can't throw something out there with so many holes in it and think people will really bite.

>> No.4682554

>>4682469
You can literally get a free CRT anywhere, and they're almost all the same. Also, it takes like 5 minutes to find a copy of a game on eBay, hardly the same as chasing the elusive perfection emulation experience. Stop being retarded.

>> No.4682664

>>4682554
>literally

>> No.4682685

>>4682417

What actually happens:

>Buy generic controller
>Download emulator
>Download ROM
>play 1000s of games for free with no issues

And by the way, I guarantee that you would fail a double blind test to try and distinguish an """"authentic"""" game from an emulated one based on input lag

>> No.4682693

>>4682417
I had consoles from when they were new but have sold them all off now because emulating is so much more convenient. Enjoy doing whatever floats your boat though.

>> No.4682712

>>4682417
>buy a controller, use your PC to download all the emulators you need, then download the roms you need, then adjust emulator settings, then research and install the plugins and other fixes you need, then constantly keep tabs on emulators that improve performance, and find ways to combat input lag and any glitches/ incompatibility issues that occur while playing, meanwhile never getting the authentic experience, never having perfect controls or compatibility, and undoubtedly being unable to replicate certain hardware-specific features of a console (e.g. the use of some peripherals, etc.)

Instead of doing all this pointless shit you could just install and configure Retroarch in 5 minutes and be done with it. Apparently you have missed a lot of developments in the past decade.

>> No.4682713

>>4682417
OH GOD I NEED TO NUT

>> No.4682718

>>4682417
Emulation lets me play fan-translated versions of games that were never translated into English.
Emulation allows me to continue playing a version of my favorite games after the internal battery backup dies (cartridge or save card.)
Emulation allows me to try out the games that were never actually released on a physical medium.
Emulation can make a game portable, instead of being cordbound to a cumbersome TV.

>> No.4682728 [DELETED] 

I agree in part.

The REAL problem in emulation is the fucking bugs, texture errors, audio, slow down, etc. These things that you can't ignore.

Emulators of the 8~18 bit era run just fine, but above that, things start to be half shit.

Input lag is just a meme

seriously

get a life for fuck sake.

>> No.4682731

The REAL problem in emulation is the fucking bugs, texture errors, audio, slow down, etc. These things that you can't ignore.

Emulators of the 8~16 bit era run just fine, but above that, things start to be half shit.

Input lag is just a meme

seriously

get a life for fuck sake.

>> No.4682747

>>4682718
You forgot:
>emulation lets me gorge myself on video games instead of doing something else with my life because I have limitless access and don't have to pace myself with how many I play because they cost nothing

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>>4682712
>RetroArch development

Break it down for me, anon. I'm an idiot still using snes9x and nestopia simply because they work.

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>>4682731
>plays emulators
>responding to bait on 4chan
>telling anyone else to get a life

>> No.4682795

>>4682417
... but fucking around with it is part of the fun, you pleb. Getting Retroarch, MAME, DOSbox, and PCem working just how I need it is a joy to me, and then I get to play any game ever made + hacks/translations with save states (purely to pick up where I left off, because I work and have other shit to do), overclocking/fast forward, at any aspect ratio I choose, dithering blurred together or pixel perfect. All on one machine, one display, and one controller.

>compatibility
Name one /vr/ game that isn't on the CDi, isn't some literally who arcade exclusive you can't afford anyway, and doesn't use a lightgun (which can still be approximated anyway) that I can't fucking play to completion. One. O N E. Meanwhile you're drowning in autistic plastic that you paid too much for, and you'll still never get to play some of the shit I can just pirate because you're priced out or it's just too goddamn rare anyway.

This shit isn't like pinball. It's just a program being executed by a computer sent to a display. Thanks to the amazing work of emu authors over the years the authenticity meme regarding video games is pure memey elitism.

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>>4682795
>O N E.

It's technically not playable anyway because OG XBox emulation is dead in the water, but even in the best case scenario that cockpit controller would be an obstacle.

>> No.4682810

>>4682731
In *what*? Dreamcast, maybe at this point? 5th gen is tackled well between Mednafen and Glide64/ParaLLEl. No wonder these hardware fags don't get it when even people who use emulators suck at them.

The real problem with emulators is that no one seems to be up to date and know what they're capable of now.

>> No.4682814

>>4682808
Oh boy, a game that predated and beat Rock Band at living room polution, and is no fun to actually play.

Also not retro, Team Meme.

>> No.4682815

>>4682795
>Meanwhile you're drowning in autistic plastic that you paid too much for,
But I'm not. I own 2 consoles and probably 30 games, and I play 4 on PC, paid maybe $700 for everything over the course of 10 years. I only play games worth playing and I don't concern myself with 6/10 trash. I get the authentic experience and I get to really appreciate and relish my games without letting them consume my life.

Let me tell you something: one, there is no console that exists which has more than maybe two dozen games worth playing. Not a single one. Once you go beyond that number, you're playing garbage. Moreover, nobody needs to be playing more than this amount. If you own, say, 10 consoles and 300 games, you're a loser, plain and simple. Likewise, if you're playing 300 games with emulators, you're still a loser.

The point I'm making is that the main argument against real hardware is that it takes up space and costs money, right? But if you have a healthy relationship with video games, real hardware shouldn't be taking up much space or wasting much money. The only way real hardware becomes intrusive on the wallet or physical space is if you are overdoing it, and in that case, you need to change your lifestyle. With cost and physical space not being an issue, what reason is there left to emulate? You get glitches and bugs, input lag, often lacks features, no authentic experience, not even physical items to display and enjoy. There are advantages, but compared to what you lose they are fairly inconsequential.

So really, the only way anyone should be playing video games is by enjoying a small select few that they are really eager to play and enjoy, and pacing themselves in how they buy and play them. Collecting hordes of games is unnecessary, as is playing inferior emulated versions.

>> No.4682824

>>4682814
>Also not retro, Team Meme.

Give it time. We're all getting older by the year.

>> No.4682828

>>4682815
Why is someone of taste and exposure this fucking shallow even frequenting a retro video game enthusiast board? Just go post some "muh childhood" shit on Facebook you fucking dullard. That's more your speed if that's what you posted is really what you think.

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>>4682828
Anon, stop resisting, I am here to help you. You seem to think that being enthusiastic about retro games is directly correlated with being an autistic collector. This is not the case. It is possible to be passionate about, and thoroughly enjoy, retro games without them consuming all of your time, social life, living space and monetary resources.

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>>4682774
my fellow creme. just download the damn thing and get the cores through retroarch itself. it's basically as simple as it can be if you don't feel like tweaking it. hell, you don't even need to migrate your existing library but rather just point to existing folder.

>> No.4682846

>>4682830
That's exactly what I mean. They don't need to, because you can emulate them flawlessly. As for them consuming too much time, that's subjective.

As for the whole 30 games over 10 years is enough and everything else is trash sentiment, well, fuck you. Fuck you for either trolling this hard or being this much of a disgusting normie. This place isn't fucking for you. No wonder emulation isn't sufficient for you. You're too much of a goddamn casual to care to learn how to use it or actually explore retro gaming. You're on a hobbyist, enthusiast board you stupid fucking faggot. I'm going to bed. Ree. Actual, unironic, fucking REEEE.

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>>4682846
>
As for the whole 30 games over 10 years is enough and everything else is trash sentiment, well, fuck you. Fuck you for either trolling this hard or being this much of a disgusting normie. This place isn't fucking for you. No wonder emulation isn't sufficient for you. You're too much of a goddamn casual to care to learn how to use it or actually explore retro gaming. You're on a hobbyist, enthusiast board you stupid fucking faggot. I'm going to bed. Ree. Actual, unironic, fucking REEEE.
Anon, I know how you must feel. Investing this much time into the electronic creations of other, greater men must seem like an investment that you have to defend... but the ticket to the future, is always open. You can learn to truly appreciate and relish games without having to defend them this much. Look at what they are making you do. "fuck you", "normie", "goddamn casual", "fucking faggot", even... an unironic "ree". Look how this addiction has caused you to sacrifice your true self.

Take my hand and let me lead you into the future.

>> No.4682868

>>4682417
>>4682747
all these posters talking about playing the original verion, doing something else with your life besides emulation, etc. while they're sitting on 4chan not using their precious original hardware

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>>4682417
Real question is scanlines or no scanlines.

>> No.4682885

>>4682859
and you're a pretentious low rent troll who doesn't belong here. I get some real smarmy hipster vibes off you. Like you're too good for this, I guess. Did a gamer fuck your girlfriend? Did your gamer husband leave you? Why don't you tell us what happened, instead? Rather, why don't you get the fuck out?

S A G E.

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>>4682885
> Did a gamer fuck your girlfriend? Did your gamer husband leave you? Why don't you tell us what happened, instead? Rather, why don't you get the fuck out?
Oh how dare you.

I am simply trying to help you, anon. Trying to help you understand that you can be passionate and knowledgeable about your hobbies without allowing them to consume you. You are only fighting it this hard because you are addicted. I want to help you anon, but you must first help yourself.

Despite your insults, I still want to help you achieve your goals and realize how wrong you've been. This is my hand, anon. Reach out, take it, and let's work on fixing you.

>> No.4682904

>>4682901
Consume my pecker. I work for a living and I'm at least on the right board.

Sage.

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>>4682904
Now anon, let's not be silly. You don't work at all. But that can change -- you can have a successful career and wonderful social life... so long as you are willing to take this journey with me. I want nothing but to help you improve the man you are, and let you see a future where you are the man you want to be.

>> No.4682908

>>4682417
>Just try defending this.
Sure I'll bite

If your talking about N64/PS2 you are completely correct, also GCN emulation on Dolphin can take some tweaking depending on the game. Most emulation requires zero configuration other than your controller which takes less than a minute to configure. SNES, Genesis, GB to GBA, PS1 with mednafen and others requires almost no configuration. Most of the configuration is just personal preferences.

>all because you aren't willing to spend a small amount of money.
Sorry I'm not willing to spend $100+ to play Earthbound or $200+ to play Shantae on GBC. I spent $150 on a copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga because emulation is basically not an option for that game.

Now what about untranslated games? The only way to play those with fan translations is to use a flashcart which is not cheap in the slightest or use bootleg carts with translated ROMs on them.
>In b4 learn Japanese
I know Japanese but I'm an edge case vast majority of people are not going to do that. I've been waiting for over 3 weeks now for a copy of Fire Emblem 3-4 to get here, mind you I obviously had to buy an SFC as well. Buying import games can be a pain in the ass. I have had a package get lost and need to be refunded and on one occasion had to pay import duties. Sometimes it's just easier to spend 5 minutes downloading a ROM and emulator instead of waiting weeks for shit to come overseas.

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>le ebin b8 thread
Can we get some cleanup over here? Aisle /b/ is leaking all over the place.

>> No.4683015

>>4682808
Stop spreading lies, you worthless piece of shit.

https://github.com/Cxbx-Reloaded/Cxbx-Reloaded

>> No.4683105

>>4683015
Yeah, because that's going places.

>> No.4683119

>>4682417
t. retard that used a shitty PS1 emulator 15 years ago and though all emulation was like that

You are like those retards that think vinyl is the only way to listen to music without losing quality.

>> No.4683129

>>4682832
>Retroarch won't recognize your rom library
>Have to manually find the game everytime via file explorer.
>Retroarch doesn't configure controller properly even though it's the genuine console controller with USB adapter
>Retroarch launches game in wrong resolution. Attempt to change it crashes the emulator.
>Retroarch keeps launching in resolution larger than my screen.

Get tired of it and just use project 64 with gliden64 and nrage input plugin.