/vr/ - Retro Games

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>>4630285
>the skid
>the explosion
It never gets old.

>>4630285
What happen if you rotate an entrance/exit building to a ride?

What's your favorite park from the /v/ pack, guys? I'm a big fan of Set Sail for Hail myself.

i dont know anything about RT or how to install mods.

what would someone suggest to me as a newbie? play 1 or 2? which mods if any?

>>4630583
2 with OpenRCT2. It substantially modernize the game and is so easy to install that my grandfather could do it.

>>4630598
This + the RCT1 recreations by Crappage

>He uses outdated steam trains in his park.
Lmao @ ur transportation.

>>4630598
>OpenRCT2
oh wow i can play in 4k now.... thanks!

>>4630841
>magic quarters
>end of year 3
>nothing seem to be built on sand nor grass area
>banking 85k
Are you cheating, loosing or building really compact?

>>4630887
Losing and cheating desu but i was never really trying to begin with.

Protip: Hide track parts of wild mouse coasters to go weeeeee

>>4630841
Speaking of trains, has anyone tried out OpenLoco? looks like it could be good when the devs get to tweaking some of the problems it has.
working multiplayer when?

>>4631668
I never really understood the appeal with Locomotion or Transport Tycoon. Is it only train autism?

>>4631758
I don't play it either, but its more management sim, I think. Closer to railroad tycoon and the ilk.

Is it me or is replacementdocs not working anymore? The site seemed like it was down for weeks, but now I can't even search for anything and trying to download manuals doesn't even work anymore. I'm asking in here since it seems this is the only thread that even mentions to download a manual off of it.

>>4632051
Yeah, it's down for me as well, though I haven't checked until you mentioned it, so I'm not sure how long it's been down.

>>4631758
Transport Tycoon is an unbalanced mess with barely any content. It's a sandbox game with not much to do unless you are an autist.

Locomotion is a proper game with some fun scenarios and real challenges.

>>4630841

>he uses land-based transportation

I think we all know chairlifts were the patrician transportation ride anon.

Are there any good sandbox saves/scenarios with challenging terrain? I'm tired of always screwing around with the "Build your Own Six Flags" and I'd feel like a fraud if I'd just cheat through the regular scenarios.

Using the Twister here, I wanted to get that Maurer-Sohne feel of wasting perfectly good steel to build a "non-inverting" loop, which is a bit like trying to sell a porno that has no one in it.

>>4634916
>breaks instantly after an almost vertical drop
Also, non-inverting loops look stupid as fuck aesthetically but while I have not experienced one they look fun.

>>4634916
Why the s-bend tho?

>>4635343
Probably loop in the way and sprites would be fucked with zero clearance.

>>4635376
Nah, that's not a problem.

>>4636592
Put in a roll instead

Guess I'm going to have to stop complaining about this...

>>4637489
Well, things like that have happened before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g904pqr3ipQ (0:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcR_ixVRgeE (0:20)

>>4637504
Nah dude. First one is only a really long crest. I don't know what the fuck the second is, a glorified block break maybe, but it's not really the same either. However, I'll never again complain if I see a short ass lift hill in the middle of a Wild Mouse.

Made this dark ride in a multiplayer server.

>>4638275
Fantastic, I approve.

>>4637489
There is also this.

>>4638275
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave?

>>4633870

>>4638339
>there's actually no lift mechanism during the curve
>literally RCT tier
This trigger me.

>>4631668
I have and it still has long way to go before it reaches OpenRCT levels

>>4638275
Sadly, the thread is as dead as Mr Bones.

>>4638473
Shit. Had i ever thought that this would come to me, to see a god damn curve without lift. omfg.

>>4636684
that shit is fun to ride
>tfw I unironically think Marine World is the best Six Flags because it's basically also a zoo/aquarium

>>4641768
I'm disappointed that they converted Roar - hybrids are insane with short airtime hops and its fucking nauseating. I've moved to LA and Magic Mountain lost colossus the same way (nevermind the fire) and Apocalypse has been continuously closed for fuck knows why. T'AINT NO WOODIES.

>>4641768
>>4642030
Also Superman's throughput, and hence line, is utter shit.

>mechanic is unable to find a broken ride even though it's easily accessible

>>4634720
plz respond

>>4642428
Drop him in a lake and hire a new one.

>>4634939
They are great and give plenty of hang time. Although, almost anything is better than a generic inverting loop.

>>4642428
There's a couple of bugs related to this, duno if they are fixed. There's ordinary pathing bugs, there's a bug when a mechanic can't find an exit if the connecting path and OpenRCT2 have a weird bug where the exit is sometimes disconnected when you're using zero-clearance (this might be fixed).

>>4642428
>>4644065
Don't forget the horrible path-finding AI of peeps. Sometimes, you can make a path three tiles wide and they'll still walk in a single narrow line sometimes. Dense mofos.

>>4644772
We should do another no border collab, that was fun.

>>4644839
If we find a save with an interesting landscape, I'm in.

>>4644839
Amplify here, be prepared for a year or two of basically trying to wrangle cats in your attempts to get everyone to do their parts, because I sure ain't doing it again.

>>4644965
This, we are having a hard enough time keeping together regular collabs right now.

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>>4646842
That is a nice coaster, however it's simply to long for its type and my autism can't allow coasters to be to unrealistic.

>>4646842
What's going on with those splash boats?

>>4644772
I love that straight-line look of a drop at that angle.

I was pretty autistic and optimized all ride intensities to be between 3 and 4 and placed crappy shuttle-loop type rides all over my park. Worked like a charm but there was no point in playing any scenario from there on out.

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>testing Roller Coaster with full load
>barely clocks in the station at 29 mph at the last second because I added enough upward helixes

Fuck

>>4648441
Tunnels
Paths along the track
Random scenery

bump

How do I make a good dueling coaster, /vr/ct?

>>4652102
Easy enough, just start building two coasters side by side as if you were building a single coaster, split them up and start building two separate coasters that are about the same length and cover vaguely the same areas that eventually join back to their respective stations.

Test them, see if one ends up back at the station quicker than the other(s) and adjust the length or features of one or multiple tracks until you get it so that both trains end up back at the station at the same time.

Job done.

>>4643836
just like real life

Man i havent played this in years

Theres custom rides and all that shit now?

Now i really wanna replay this in a fit of nostalgia

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Haha

>>4630181
Anyone have an update link to RCTConvert.zip ? The link in OP is dead.

>>4654060
I found something that sounds similar, not sure if it's the same software or not though.

https://trigger-death.github.io/RCT2Tools/AudioExtractor/

Perhaps this should go in next OP?

>>4651305
That on-ride-photo is kinda ugly desu.

New OpenRCT2 stable release!

https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2/releases/tag/v0.1.2

Seems like the new save format, with all that imply, is actually going to be real quite soon™.

>>4654798
>Feature: [#6125] Path can now be placed in park entrances.
This changes everything.

So I made this on a server the other day.

>>4655894

>>4655894
>>4655897
Can't say I love the scenery but the coaster design is great. The dueling part look good and unlike most people you do not overuse non inverted track but keep it to one section. It's kinda hard to see if the stations are full length or if there's a break run hidden back there. There should be a break run.

>>4654798
That's a huge update. Lots of bugs fixed and performance improvements there.

been playing some comfy ottd :3

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>>4656086
How's it going with the collab?

>>4657025
I stopped rct for a bit bc some cunt toyed with my feelings and used me for lewd ruined the game for me but I'll get back to it after a bit of time, I haven't run out of inspiration or anything though, so after a little de-rusting period it shouldn't take long to finish

>>4656086
>not playing the better game

>>4658196
locomotion is fun but the signalling, train ai, lack of depots and other minor stuff is really shitty and puts me off. I love the comfyness of the aesthetics and I love the track building system, but ottd has better gameplay desu

>>4658107
>so after a little de-rusting period it shouldn't take long to finish
Nice.

>new colour scheme
I think I like it.

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>>4658305
The good news is there's OpenLoco to look forward to now, some day Locomotion will be as playable as OpenTTD.

https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenLoco

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>>4658196
>>4660172
Should I add Locomotion and OTTD to the next OP and make this /csg/ - Chris Sawyer General? Or idk just Tycoon General or something. There's clearly some interest, and it would get people from rct trying openloco and vice versa. Would keep these threads just a bit more alive.

>>4662074
I'd say do it. Locomotion and RCT in particular are pretty similar anyway, and I'm sure there's a lot of overlap between the fans of the 3 games.

>>4662972
noshark/10

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>>4662972
Does that actually change the properties of the ride or is it just a cool trick?

>>4664568
the track is still there, there is just a corrupt map element on the tile that gets drawn instead of it, which leaves it looking invisible. It has no effect on ratings and is purely aesthetic

Okay, does anyone know how much of my ride needs to be underground so guests won't say "I'm not going on Anon's Ride while it's raining."? Is it just half of it?

>bug is causing delivery times on transferred goods to max out
>barely making money on my lumber/paper route now

>>>/tcg/ - Tycoon and City Builders General

Previous Thread: >>4630181
Discord: https://discord.gg/AzHd2XP

Downloads:
>Open RCT
https://openrct2.org/
>Open Locomotion
https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenLoco
>Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe
https://www.openttd.org/en/
>Open Sim City 2000
https://github.com/rage8885/OpenSC2K

---
Helpful Resources (Newfags go here for more info):
>>>RCT<<<
https://pastebin.com/R32Q4Lu6

>>>OTTD/Locomotion<<<
https://pastebin.com/5gagGwu7

>>>Sim City<<<
https://pastebin.com/JcjJjvTx
pastebin under construction, feel free to contribute!

Other business sim series such as Railroad Tycoon and Theme Hospital are also welcome c:
===================================================================================================================
Gave the OP an overhaul. I'm not a Sim City player myself so I know nothing about SC2K and the community, if you have any useful links make sure to add them next thread/reply with them here. I'll try to add them to the pastebin asap, and give the OP another little rewrite.

>>4665782
So is this the logical evolution of our thread?

>>4666545
Seems like it. I guess it's better than having bumps as a third of the posts.

Posting old collab images. First up, Collaborative Hyper-Twister.

Lost City, from the Miggy collab. This one is one of the best looking loopers I've seen.

>>4666584
And here's what it looked like in the original slot. I only intended for the next person to add to it, but everyone wanted to help.

The Hive, a classic from the eh_collab. If anyone has the final save, please post it! The link in the collab doc is dead.

An in-progress shot of a multiplayer Forest Frontiers a while back.

>>4666587
I really like that one. People love to shove a giant sprawling coaster that dominates their spot into collabs, but that gets kinda old after the 30th time. Thumbs up to that one for the AESTHETIC.

>>4667005
I removed my giant sprawling coaster so you could see it better. I missed a piece of scenery, though, which explains the floating purple blocks.

>>4667152
Oh okay, I take back the nice things I said about it then.
#theminimalistversionwasbetter

Woodworm Park is so fucking tiny, and it rains so fucking much. God damn.
Though I suppose lots of rain isn't necessarily bad if my objective is just to keep people in the park for longer, since they'll take longer to run out of cash.

>>4643353
>>4634720
N-no one? ;_;

>>4654798
If we ain't talkin' dynamic lighting, we ain't talkin'.

>>4665782
Honestly, keep the /vr/ct name but add a couple of lines about other Chris Sawyer games and their open clones. It's a more moderate change and it won't result in people bitching about Locomotion, released 2004, not being retro.

>>4666629
Cute woody and I like the food court and fountains.

>>4668168
Have you played Rainbow Valley and Harmonic Hills?

>>4667241
No, I meant I removed the coaster in my slot that was next to that slot. It was like 100 feet tall and obscured that shit completely.

>>4668168
What criteria are you looking for? No money, no coaster length objectives, or what?

a classic shitpost

>>4666597
Rare in-progress screenshot of The Hive.

>>4668903
locomotion is a sequel to transport tycoon deluxe, a 1995 game. It's as /vr/ as RCT2, which was released in 2002. This thread has been here for years and it still exists and the mods don't give a fuck so anybody bitching can fuck off

>>4634720
>>4668168
look in the /v/ pack for the stuff Mold made. Craven Caverns, Monumental Mine, Gorgeous Glacier, Shifting Sands and There's also Forlorn Fortress, which I made

>>4634720
Building off of what shnupz said, here's a few more user-made suggestions:
Set Sail for Hail, Cascade Falls, Copper Heights, Elwynn Forest, Loch Modan, Needle Ridge, Pratt Falls.

>>4658196
Goddamn. Where'd you get the carriages and brake car from?

>>4669132
https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28237

>>4669001
I put the nice things I said back then, and fuck your neighbor he's an ass.

>>4669151
Thanks!

>>4658196
Is there an idiot-proof guide to installing OpenLoco? I tried following the guide provided but stuck at command prompt. :c

I remember all the innocent kids I killed in that game.

>>4669972
>>4658196
nvm, I found an idiot-proof installer. I probably could have gotten it to run otherwise but I ran into problems trying to run 'msbuild'. No matter, it's running now - though idk yet if there are any CTDs I haven't encountered yet.

https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenLoco/releases

Completed Tiny Towers

>>4669097
Wolfenstein: The New Order is a sequel to Castle Wolfenstein, does not make it retro. RCT2 is allowed because someone talked with the mods about it several years ago, and while I agree that Locomotion could be considered retro in the same way no one have had that discussion.

I simply think that it's best to do stuff in small steps. Put TTD in the OP and discuss Locomotion if you want, but don't turn a roller coaster general into a city builder just yet.

>>4670210
Completed Tiny Towers.

Not a fan of the map desu. It's to big to be really challenging and to small to build decent coasters on.

>>4670370
No one said sequel. The distinction is that it's the same game with some improvements. It's more like choosing the cutoff point for an annual sports game. I agree that it should be incidental to the primary discussion, though.

>>4665145
I think it needs at least 40% underground to qualify.

>>4665145
>>4671742
I think it depends on the game. It's much easier to get people to ride underground rides in RCT1.

Of course, OpenRCT2 fucked with so many things that it might have made that unreliable, too. I know for a while, guest AI had a hard time deciding what to ride in the rain.

>>4671751
I wish they had a special list of covered/uncovered custom rides that bypasses the vanilla rain checks.

Cute little weebcoaster I made.

>>4673559
Sorry, but it does not look very well planned. A curved lift hill, several long straights, a single random inversion and no break run.

>>4673559
I kinda like it. Reminds me a bit of TOGO coasters.

>>4673703
What makes the inversion random? That there isn't a drop right before it?

>>4673716
Probably the fact that it's the only one in the ride.

>>4673716
Like anon said, that it's the only inversion. The theme of the ride seem to be drops and curves and then there's suddenly a solitary corkscrew.

>>4674049
Yeah I'm not very good at rollercoasters. I was more excited about the scenery. But honestly, I like the idea of a smooth rollercoaster with long straights, wide turns, and a few inversions rather than a pretzel.

>>4675194
It's not a bad coaster, it just has one element out of place.

>>4673559
What I like most about this is the first drop and the scenery, especially the stone paths leading up to the ride.

I don't mind people posting other Chris Sawyer stuff in the thread but I'd prefer the OP stay RCT-centered.

>>4675972
Same.

>>4630498
In both cases, the game tells you that the ride has no path leading to the entrace/away from the exit. If you're turning the exit, the peeps glitchmove towards the real way they're supposed to face, exit in to ride again and then glitchmove back out again. Rotating the entry doesn't do anything. Try it sometime, it's fun to watch.

Anyone up for a semi serious no borders collab? I'm thinking keep coasters and shit somewhat realistic and RCT-ish looking but in general do whatever you like.

>>4673703
>A curved lift hill
There is literally nothing wrong with a curved lift hill. Why is this a criticism?

>>4673559
I love the theming and I too like long straightaways. Looks like a very comfy coaster.

>>4675634
Not sure if I like the zigzag hedges on the diagonals there, but the rest is nice, very quaint. A few more yellow highlights to match the rides would be nice.

>>4677009
Unless you're building a Schwarzkopf, a junior coaster or some kind of freak coaster there's literally nothing right with a curved lift hill. There's no better way to say
>I ran out of space and did not plan my coaster at all

>>4676897
I unironically thought those banners had Japanese text until realising they were partially scrolled 'no entry'.

>>4677031
>Unless you're building a Schwarzkopf, a junior coaster or some kind of freak coaster there's literally nothing right with a curved lift hill. There's no better way to say

As the resident realism nut I agree. Schwartzkopf is essentially the only company that ever curved a lift hill using a chain, but there are some weird exceptions like the Zamperla Volare model which has a spiral lift operated by a rotating arm that pushes the train. (https://rcdb.com/9515.htm#p=86879)) These rides are so fucking disgusting though, the whiplash is really bad. Ironically the North Korean one is the only smooth, fun one to ride in the world.

The general rule of thumb is that if it isn't schwartzkopf keep the lift hill straight unless it is a tire operated lift like in the junior coaster.

>>4677161
uggu coasteru kawaii~ hate on my coaster.

>>4677175
>https://rcdb.com/9515.htm#p=86879
Hot damn that's horrifying.

Since these are educational posts it's relevant to point out that in RCT the Spiral Coaster and Looping Coaster are both Schwartzkopfs.

>>4677189
Fuck, forgot to post coaster.

>>4677189
also worth pointing out that Schwartkopf made some loopers that used what is now the Intamin box track (what the impulse coaster uses, but not inverted. Just use giga track for it), along with some Mine Train coasters (pop the mine train cars on Looping Coaster track).

>>4677190
Good shit good shit dude. My only criticism is that the roll-in for the MCBR is really harsh, maybe add a gentle hill piece at the bottom?. The MCBR is also really long. Otherwise a great layout overall

>>4677190
a-and the immelmann looks really weird like that

>>4677205
You're probably right. I initially thought that having a higher MCBR would make the corkscrews to fast but after further testing I've realized that you're right. Also, it makes the last roll better.

>>4677217
I know. I'll fix it if you make some new track pieces.

>>4677223
tried my hand at it, I felt like the final brake run was a bit long too but idk I've never actually seen a B&M irl to be sure on that

>>4677281
Darn, this is hard.
+ The Immelmann look better
+ I do like the MCBR through the loop

- I don't like really like "valleys" with more than 1 gentle slope piece to smooth it out
- I prefer a wide cobra roll
- I don't really like the MCBR through the loop

>>4677323
>+ I do like the MCBR through the loop
>- I don't really like the MCBR through the loop

?_? I think I get what you mean. it turned out as a happy accident, but it isn't exactly realistic.

>- I prefer a wide cobra roll
https://imgur.com/a/Rv5ab
Always make sure the bottom of the roll is the same or smaller width than the top

You could probably condense the loop to take up less space and it would still look natural, but you would likely have issues getting the immelmann to fit. If I was putting this layout in a park I would definitely cover the bottom of the loops with a tunnel, or put trees there to make the swoop by at 100km/h seem more exciting. I figure you could tighten up the loop and start the immelmann as you did, than take the dive over the mcbr rather than under.

>>4677406
When it comes to cobra rolls I don't 100% agree with that guide desu. IRL Cobra Rolls are often more or less as fat as the base and in RCT a wide cobra is a decent approximation if you don't want your inversion to lean one way or another.

>>4677406
>>4677450

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>vehicle malfunction or restraints stuck
>train stops with its ass still not completely in the station despite there being room
>other train is coming up behind it
Fuck, and I always thought crashes could only happen with station break failures (and the tiny single car coasters when the cars get bunched up in any breakdown).

>>4678002
block brakes nigga

has anyone ever rebuilt the blue fire from europa park (germany)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt3qyCqv-eU

>>4630841
Not outdated. Charming.

>>4678015
The Chinese have.
actually its a sister coaster form the same manufacturer

I think this is the finished product. I just need to name it, thinking about Direwolf or Wendigo since it's a white coaster in a forest.

>>4678002
I've only seen this happen a few times but it's always shocking.

>>4678929
Nice flow to the ride. I approve.

>>4678002
Don't forget that safety cut-out can result in disaster too.

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Post frustrating things.

>>4680251
Testing rollercoasters and having to rebuild your favorite part because the train isn't fast enough for one hill.

>>4680251

>>4681417
Just delete the path tile outside of the exit and you're fine. Pretend not to notice the falling peeps.

Does anyone have any tips for creating scenarios, or am I just going to have to test them out myself to make sure they're fair? Tips for landscaping are appreciated too. I'm also confused on when it would be better to use buyable land tiles or construction rights tiles.

>>4681545
Buy land is better definitely. There are tools to assist with landscaping so you're not adjusting things one tile at a time. I've made something like 40 scenarios and always play test them. That way you know if anything needs to be adjusted before uploading.
My best advice is to create something you would like to play.

>people everywhere
>massive ques

Why does it feels so awesome?

>>4681545
>I'm also confused on when it would be better to use buyable land tiles or construction rights tiles.
Only use construction rights if there's a road, river etc splitting your park in two, like in Funtopia.

>>4681557
Thanks. I know how to use the landscaping tools so I meant more some good tips to make it realistic/fun to play. Also is it possible to make height maps of real world places?

>>4680251

>>4681545
>>4681631
Construction rights would also be good over bodies of water, like rivers, if you really don't want the player to remove them.

>>4680251

>>4680251
And while we're on the topic...

>>4682027
Four years later, maybe it's still closed.

>>4681776
>height maps of real world places
You might need to do a little finagling. Grayscale topographical images are readily available and OpenRCT supports importing bitmaps.

>>4680251

>>4680251

>>4682787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMO17d8gNYI
From back when he used to make videos still.

>>4682903
Fuck, you made me remember this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7dckJB5as

I dedicate this bump to Team Mini.

>>4630841
>his trains aren't westaboo approved

>>4656086
What mods?

C O M F Y

>>4684885
now there's some nice transit lines.

>>4685394
>>4685397
Really nice coaster. I'd probably try to make that whole turn beneath the drop banked, it looks a little janky now.

>>4682903
>>4682928
>It's been over 2 years since my last RCT video.

Damn I really need to get my shit sorted out.

>>4682928
Well that ending was unexpected.

>>4685893
Speaking of videos...
https://youtu.be/x4Smjd9AjxU

>>4688305
>carousel not broken and bouncing around violently
5/10

I stopped posting here around late 2015, I don't know what made me come back today but it's really nice to see this thread is still alive.

I'm thinking of writing up another coaster design contest when I get home, how many people would be interested in entering if I did?

>>4689345
I'll participate.

>>4689345
sure why not

>>4689345
I might try to join in if you start one.

>>4689345
I'm available to contribute.

>>4681417
What gets me is that these guest-trapping nightmares are in TWO official maps. They couldn't just modify an observation tower to work differently or something?

>>4689345
I'd love to. I entered all but one of the previous contests (I fucked up my entry for the Christmas one and couldn't come up with anything else), and have been waiting for another opportunity.

>>4690537
It's a shame that elevators don't work with rotating lift mode like you'd expect.

RCT2 has recently been added to the speedrun.com library of games and features a OpenRCT2 category for all scenarios.

https://www.speedrun.com/rct2

>>4681587
>crowd noises
>endless cha-chings
>rider screams and toilet flushes everywhere

>merry go round music drowns out the other music I want to hear playing (Roman Fanfare, Wild West, Toyland, etc.)
>but it feels wrong to mute the carousel music

>>4692020
I wonder if OpenRCT2 could do something about the fact that guests only scream when going over drops.

>dead silence as train goes 100mph up 90 degree climb
>bloodcurdling shrieks as train moves over tiny dip to get out of station

Hey oh.
I had a ride concept recently, haven't done it yet but here's the thing :
>indoor Water ride/Water coaster
>PotC-Like
>Western themed
>set in a Mexican fort attacked by bandidos or just bandits
>maybe a coaster section in a mine near the end of the ride
>4 big scenes
>Quiet city, everything is calm (lift hill)
>War between callaberos and bandits, shooting at each other (first drop)
>Escaping the fort/town now on fire (second drop)
>getting in a mine filled with tnt (coaster section)

Opinions?
Moar ?

>can't load all objects in one park

Dropped.

>>4685394
Giving me some Mystic Timbers vibes, I like it.

>>4692834
>diagonal lift hills on Dive Coasters
Fuck me that's hot.

>>4693265
That would be a quite advanced build in RCT. Which is awesome if you pull it of, you could probably have it interact with a Mine Coaster for better area theming.

>>4665782
There should be more emphasis on newgrfs in the OTTD pastebin. That's the only reason most of us are still playing the game after all these years.

>>4693026
>corkscrew
>no screams
>rolling out of block brakes
>holy terror

>>4693935
What am I looking at in this gif? Is that RCT Mod?

>>4694806
Openttd with some customizations

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>just discovered FIRS had multiple modes available

So I made this on a server recently.

>>4697005
Seriously impressive work. Nicely done.

>>4697005
Plus underground view.

>>4697016
And the other side of the mountain.

>>4697005
Very cool, and the water jets simulating the train dipping into/kicking up the water is a nice touch. Too bad they couldn't activate as the train passes by.

>>4692834
>called the Plunge in a desert scenario
>not turquoise or light blue
ONE
JOB

>>4696857
There was a big update somewhat recently that added a whole bunch more.

Is there a more iconic song than the Merry Go Round organ?

>>4666545
So Simcity and citybuilder threads now merge into RCT threads? I guess this is as good a place as any for Sim builder games like Zoo Tycoon and Themepark World, then?

>>4698275
Makes as much sense as anything else. I doubt those subjects will get much content anyway. Might as well try a big unified thread, and let sub-subjects break away as necessary.

>>4698358
Seems fair enough.

>>4698358
Rollercoaster Tycoon is stupid, this should just be a SimCity thread.

>>4698275
>>4698482
Well there is already a Sim City thread at >>4617090

>>4698482
Why don't you knock it with those negative vibes, man?

>>4698482
I just want to post about OpenTTD, but there isn't enough interest to sustain a thread for long.

>>4698125
Which song? I was always a fan of the Poet and Peasant Overture along with Vienna Woods, but the folk songs are great too. I wish I could find sheet music for all the songs but I guess when I get bored enough I could transcribe them myself.

>>4698125
I like Toyland, Roman Fanfare, and Wild West.

Been working on this, just got back into the game so my scenery skills are a little rusty.

I'm a bit curious about Rollercoaster Tycoon. How hard is it to get into? I'm experienced with SC2000 and SC3000, not a pro, but I get it. How much micromanaging is involved? More or less than these games?

>>4698562
RCT is not really a game, it's 95% aesthetics. It's as much about making things that look nice as it is about stats.

>>4698560
Looking pretty good. That's a big woody you have there.

>>4698568
I am 1000% okay with that. As long as I can watch my cash reserves grow too.

>>4698552
the one I always think of is the one that goes DOOO DO do DO DOOO dododo DO DOO DOOOO

>>4698562
It's a lot of management but you can really get away with the default options for most shops and stalls. If you can succeed at SC3K, you should be fine with RCT. You have to be alert and watch areas a little more than SC3K, but the challenge is more about designing rides that work, rather than planning road systems.

>>4698653
You'll like this, then. RCT gives you a very in-depth look at finances, including the overall monthly income/expenses (pictured), graphs for value over time, weekly income, and cash over time.

Every ride/shop/attraction also has an income and costs tab that tells you how much it costs you to run it per hour, as well as how much it earns per hour, and a lifetime profit amount.

Finally, there's a list that shows everything in the park, and it can be filtered many ways, including profit.

The game gives you a great sense of where your money is going, and where it's coming from.

>>4698687
Another look at the financial side of RCT. Various windows that show the exchange of funds.

>>4698687
>>4698714
Oooh, that's appealingly precise!

bump

So what are some apeshit coasters people build around here? Surreal bullshit the likes of Mr. Bones Wild Ride, but more creative.

hey how'd i do

>>4699921
But why?

>>4699921
would get obliterated again/10

>>4699921
The TOGO Job Application looks too intense for me.

>>4698687
>>4698714
I was once going to collate all of my parks' financial information into a spreadsheet just to see how much I made throughout RCT.

I completely forgot about it when I completed Forest Frontiers. I was rather disappointed.

>>4699921
innovative. get those positive Gs down to 8, and the negatives down to 3, and you're hired.

>>4694806
No but it is RCT's dad.

Do you like your coasters with platforms starting at an elevated level or platforms starting on the ground?

>>4701587
If it on flat ground I usually elevate them enough so a path can be built underneath it. It gives me a lot more options than plunking down at ground level does.

>>4701587
Depends on the coaster. I love starting suspended and inverted coasters with elevated platforms and putting large buildings around them.

>>4701587
Elevated level so I can have the train enter the station at <30mph more easily.

>>4701742
The patrician RCT1 strategy.

>>4701587
Almost always elevated. I sometimes build some of the most basic coasters, like Juniors, Virginia Reel and Wild Mouse, directly on the ground.

>>4702114
Yeah good point. Those lose speed quickly so you don't need to worry about station brake failures as much.

>>4702016
More realistic too, since roller coasters often have raised platforms.

>>4689345
So, are you going to do it?

I like making like 20 tiny go kart tracks around the park at $1.50 per 10 laps. It really bumps the cash flow and guest count super high and only costs like 400 dollars to make.
It also reminds of the movie Heavyweights when Jerry's dad played by Jeffrey Tambor says to Jerry after hearing him complain, "I did not send you to Go Kart Camp!"

>>4705035
Like the classic JewKarts, except the station is usually longer. Another nice version is having a launched corkscrew coaster shuttle consisting of a station and two half loops.

>>4705035
I just do this

>>4705035

I prefer to make Go Kart tracks that go around the entire perimeter of huge maps like Evergreen Gardens, then make them do 16 laps on it.

>>4705437
Mr. Bones Jr., is that you?

>>4705437
>>4706342
You guys may laugh at this now, but some asshat threw this into a collab.

>>4706378

>>4705035
>>4705248
If you attempt Jewville, you'll quickly discover there are much better designs you'll need to create in order to make more money.
I learned the hard way.

>>4706386
jesus fucking christ
I do love me some jewcoasters that are longer than six pieces of track...

>>4706386
I love that you took the scenario I made as a joke when I first joined these threads and beat it legit.

Pic related, stacked levels upon levels of that was originally how I intended for it to be beaten.

>>4706581
Tried it. Didn't work.
The 3 kart version of Jew Karts are terrible and I still don't know why people continue to use them.

>>4706593
>The 3 kart version of Jew Karts are terrible and I still don't know why people continue to use them.
Because we're bad at this compared to you, as we haven't invested 1000 hours into jew research and technology. We live in mud huts with our sticks and 3 kart jewkarts, while you live in a magic space castle powered by splashboats.

>>4706593
You can get 4 karts on that track in RCT1.

How do I git gud with scenery?

>>4707343
Look at things other people post, decide if they look nice or bad. Try to use similar techniques to the nice looking ones, and avoid doing what the bad ones do.

What is that website where people post really extreme RCT parks that are mostly impressive custom scenery? If you've seen it you know what I mean, their screenshots don't even look like the same game anymore.

>>4707369
Probably NEdesigns

>>4707343
copy other people anon, go on NE and look at bronze level stuff, try and use it as a sort of goal. When you feel confident, try to use what you see in higher rated works. Don't expect yourself to gitgud instantly

Make sure you are using zero clearances and the tile inspector to get the most out of the game, without cheating the scenery system is really shit

bump

>>4708164
I always liked the newspaper feature in Sim City 2000, even if it was a little... odd at times.

Okay, you've got me. I started a Cities folder in my /vr/ pictures file.

>>4708608

What's the most you can charge for a rollercoaster and still have people willing to pay? I made a coaster with something like 9.20 excitement and people are willing to pay $17.50. This is in corkscrew follies where people are willing to pay more for rides in general to make up for no admission fee, but still.

>>4708636
>My cock wins gold!
>My cock's fear factor
I'll never get tired of this shit.

>>4708608

One thing I like about Cities: Skylines is the twitter feed. I don't know why people hate it so much. I think it's an appropriate twist to the newspaper and makes more sense than whatever the news ticker was supposed to be. I mean really? What the hell is a news ticker? Do mayors really have some scrolling lines of texts that magically shows the thouhts of people or something?

>>4708929

>>4709412
That works too.

Can you make like underwater tunnels or shit?

I like islands, all that blue water, the bridges, the ports.

Hard to get a strong population though, as you tend to concede so much space.

>>4709019
>What the hell is a news ticker?
Bruh, did you even try? Have you ever seen a news network broadcast? SimCity always formatted its ticker like real ones, headlines and blurbs, albeit with the occasional vidya contrivance still masquerading as a proper ticker. People hate Skyline's twatter, despite it giving the same information, because it is formatted with the same disgusting banality and entitlement that makes millennials and older - the people who generally like simulation games - despise Generation Z.

>>4710284
Fuck, that was the wrong thread.

I have no idea why I did any of this.

And here's where it ultimately leads.

For reference, that guest hopped in line shortly after the ride first opened back in March Year 1; that's how long of a walk it is.

>>4709841
Population is only one stat that makes cities great. You can have beauty without crowds.

>>4710686
the reverse Mr. Bones.

>>4710680
>>4710682
>>4710684
>>4710686
But y tho. Also why not do the blank spot at the back?

>>4710686
>his face
I guess it really is the greatest ride on Earth.

>>4710686

How is everyone not slunched over with the exhaustion animation at that point?

>>4710765
I think queue lines affect guest stats differently than other paths. When was the last time you saw someone puke on a queue path? It happens much less frequently than on normal footpath.

Something's up.

Is RCTC also accepted here?
Have a schwarzkopf btw

>>4710802
Seeing as how it's just a port, post however much you want!

>>4710696
>I want to get on Mr. Bones' Wild Ride

Does anyone here know any sites with Locomotion data that is NOT Owen's Loco Depot?

test

Rollercoaster Tycoon meets Sim City

>>4711206
That little airport at the end is cute, didn't really think it was possible to pull of nice aesthetics like that in 2k.

>>4711605
SC2000 is full of aesthetic potential.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B6LGz24szU5waGVnRFBCTTF4Y1E

here's a program to edit the colour palette of rct2 (you select it in-game as a water colour object)

If anybody can figure out how the fuck it works, please let me know. All my palettes become horribly fucked up despite being saved as 24 bit bmp

>>4708882
Ride excitement loosely translates to the amount guests are normally willing to pay. You may have to round down but its usually very close. On a new ride that is less than a year old guests are a lot more generous and may pay as much as double the normal amount so if your ride is like 9 excitement you might be able to get ~$18 out of it. After like a year the "new ride" attribute turns off and everyone will leave so you have to pay close attention

>>4710956
the German Locomotion Fanpage had stuff

https://www.wisim-welt.de/

Is there any way to get Workbenchland working? It keeps telling me I am missing ZPANDA, but I downloaded it and put it in and its still coming up?

Maybe I am missing where it goes, its an Object right?

>>4712571
They talked about this a bit in the paper manual for RCT1. It boils down to the amusement park business being driven by novelty. That's why real life parks are always trying to put out something new. Sometimes it works, like inverted coasters. Sometimes it doesn't, like stand-up coasters. Right now, the new hotness is wing coasters and wooden hybrids.

RCT is only now starting to show its age, since these coasters have become popular in the last 5 or so years.

>>4713689
Actually I guess it started to show its age when stratacoasters came around and overbanks became common.

>>4713689
>>4713703
>tfw no RMC in RCT
>tfw no 90° banks
For Wing Coasters there are great custom rides, only the station is a little wonky since peeps can't enter from both sides.

>>4713675
A-a-a-anyone?

>>4709412
>Coupon for a free ride on "Your Mum"

>>4713675
Usually stuff goes into ObjData

>>4714376
Hmm... Unless there is a ZPANDA different from the one on nedesigns Workbenchland is dead

>curved lifthills are a meme

>>4714497
It's fine on a couple of coaster types like Juniors and Schwarzkopfs.

>>4714570
notably Schwartzkopf was the only company to use a curved chain iirc

Every other example of a curved lift irl uses a tire lift like in >>4714497 which is what you see on the junior coaster in-game, other than some extreme outliers like the Zamperla Volare.

So in-game? Looping coasters are the only thing that can acceptably have a curved lift hill that isn't designed for it, with no more than a 180 degree turn in the lift. Junior coasters and spirals are meant to use it and that's fine.

>>4710695
Building a few islands, I managed to bump up population to a bit over 50000.
It wouldn't go much higher than that though, and I was basically as done as I could be with the space I allotted myself.

I had reserved some locations for arcologies, not that I'd ever reach those with all this space being used by water. Being pretty much done, I decided "Fuck it." then cheated to unlock arcologies to place where I wanted them to be, as well as laying down a rudimentary subway system. This bumped the population up a fair bit, to levels I think are decent.

>>4714215
I have a lead. I'm pretty sure you can get that by downloading Chris Sawyer's Panda World park thing.

>>4714607
Classic Schwarzkopf
Not a super exciting ride, still enjoy it. Some of the turns are pretty intense

Are there any good Roller Coaster/Theme Park Youtubers? I miss the old Travel Channel shows about them, and they seem to not exist (and neither do torrents)

>>4715118
Currently subscribed to Coaster Bot, Theme Park Crazy and davidjellis

>>4715118
Theme Park Review has a nice collection of on-ride videos, if you can overlook the.... eccentricities of the channel owner. Or if you're okay with muting videos.

Does uncap FPS in OpenRCT2 fuck anything up? Seems like uncapping FPS often causes more problems than it's worth with most other game mods.

>>4715516
Is he the one that screams and shit on the rides all the time?

I know he was the first to do an HD Knoebels Haunted Mansion vid and he screamed like a girl and it was fucking awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmVTibBoErM

>>4715610
Jesus fucking Christ fuck that guy

>>4715610
Yeah, and he's notoriously bad at handling comments. The dude actually gets upset over it.

>>4715538
it literally only affects the visuals. FPS isn't tied to physics or anything. I've never had any screen tearing either myself

>>4668903
rct2 was released in 2002, that isnt retro either

>>4715118
Coasterforce is probably the best collection of on-ride videos available, guaranteed free of retarded manchild shrieks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIxiXRZqUv9zYVM80cz6ZnA

>>4715516
Fuck Rob alvey

>>4710686
>Does lead to a jew maze

>>4710686
>Doesn't lead to a jew maze

>>4715516
>Theme Park Review
CoasterForce exists for a reason, unless you're looking for obscure Asian coasters there's no reason to give Rob any more views.

>>4716983
>obscure Asian coasters
purplefinale's got Japan covered. An occasionally shaky camera seems a fair trade for no Robb.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfewHzhx3yxUcpeKkFJdo0Q

>>4716257
Also davidjellis

>>4717008
Nice.

>TAKABISHA onride
Why build a coaster with a lifthill and a launch, and have the lifthill after the launch?

>>4717120
It's a prank

>>4716235
nice coaster my dude

also RIP hawken ;_;

>Just discovered the tile inspector

Round 1 of the new design challenge is live!

To start things off, we'll be doing knot-style coasters with more than 10 inversions. Any type of coaster is allowed, so get creative with your designs.

Also I'm not gonna be specific about the definition of a knot, as long as your ride twists over itself a decent amount you'll be fine.

Good luck and have fun building! I'll compile a strawpoll and imgur album at the end of the month.

>>4704602
apologies for the wait fellas, internet at my place was down for a few days

>>4717283
Can you post some real-world examples of what you mean by "knot style"?

>>4717283
>more than 10 inversions
>in a tight build
wew lad

I wonder if it's even possible to do this with decent stats with any coaster type but some of the B&Ms?

>>4717296
>10 inversion TOGO standup

>>4717289
The Smiler at Alton towers, or something like flight of the Phoenix maybe?

>>4717296
I honestly just threw out the first idea thay came to mind, like I said I'm not gonna be picky about how tight the builds are.

>>4665782
Is this going to become a thing?

Can I post SimCity here? /cbg/ is sleeping forever it seems.

>>4717359
I think we decided to do that. I posted some stuff earlier.

>>4717373
Neat. Started working on this last night.

>>4717380
>Best Simcity
Please post more often.

>>4717380
3k is just the right amount of city builder for a day off. As I turn into an old man I have less and less ability to be as autistic as I used to be in SC4/C:S.

Making a new neighbourhood.

>>4717380
That actually looks quite nice, I tend to just completely pack zones without any trees.

>>4717462
I love trees.

Trying to space this map out more with little "towns" with some disconnect between them.

>>4717419
>>4717473
How do you do highways without going bankrupt? The last time I did 3k, that was what ruined me.

>>4717476
Get a cashflow rolling first.

Only do Highways once you actually earn money each year, instead of losing money on expenses/bonds.

>>4717476
Cheat, or as anon said, get in the black first.

Commercial areas finally starting to not look like shanty towns.

Haven't played RCT2 in over a decade so I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question, but is it normal for the majority of the premade rides to have the "design includes scenery which is unavailable" and "vehicle design not available" errors? I get that you unlock more with research but even after researching a ton, as well as in the custom sandbox scenario that has everything unlocked, they still show up on a bunch of coasters, which makes me wonder if I screwed something up while installing OpenRCT2 and custom content.

>>4717510
I would not say majority but no scenario include all vehicle types or scenery packs (it's impossible because technical limitations in the game) even when everything is researched.

As long as some are buildable I don't think there's anything wrong.

The only issue for that game that I have is I'm not fully sure how to use the scenery (or alter the altitude of it)

>>4717561
The ctrl and shift keys are your friends when working with scenery and altitude.

>>4717561
You alter the altitude of scenery (and track pieces) by holding down the Shift key and moving your mouse up or down. Additionally, you can hold down the Crtl key while your mouse is over a piece of scenery to raise whatever you're trying to place to the same altitude as it (this is really useful for building roofs).

Hope that helps.

>>4717558
I wasn't aware of that, thank you. I think that's probably it.

>>4717503
Filled in some more and am making a downtown-ish area.

>>4717585
Downtown looking a little slummy right now but will be gentrified in time.

>>4717704
Expanding on to the island.

>>4717965
holy bus stops batman

My babby's first roller coaster. Obviously shit and nothing special but I'm looking for tips and wondering what numbers I should be aiming for. Should I be going for different stats with different coaster types? I think I should probably work on making it more compact and use space more efficiently, but I'm finding it more a process of trial and error at the moment. I'm just sort of trying to figure out what even functions at all.

>>4718328
>s-bend at loop speed
>1.84g
?

>>4718328
Try to make E>I>N (ideally, maybe E won't always be greater than I but that's a good way to think about what to aim for).

>>4718328
Bank more of your turns, and make the coaster longer

>>4718341
Is that unusual? It takes the loop pretty slowly.
>>4718343
Thank you, that is very helpful to keep in mind.
>>4718386
I actually tried banking those two unbanked curves because it seemed right, and it lowered excitement, intensity, and nausea all by about .10, so I wasn't sure what to do. Is the trade-off worth it? Maybe I didn't do it optimally, I'm having a bit of trouble editing middle parts of the coaster and getting it to fit back together.

>>4718480
I say just tear the whole thing down, and try to make a slightly faster, twistier coaster. Make it twist in on itself more

>>4718485
Oh yeah of course, I don't really plan on doing anything with that particular coaster. I just wanted to post it so that any glaring faults or obvious improvements in what I'm doing could be pointed out.

>>4718485
>>4718485
Oh yeah of course, I don't really plan on doing anything with that particular coaster. I just wanted to post it so that any glaring faults or obvious improvements in what I'm doing could be pointed out. I am working on a new one now and am taking your advice in mind trying to use my space better.

>>4718494
One tip that's not 100% required, but still a good idea, is to get the train entering the station at 29MPH or lower, that way if the brakes fail there won't be a crash. I usually go about this by making an upward helix near the end to take away some of the momentum

>>4718328
>>4718343

Getting E>I with a woody is very hard to do, but its a realistic goal on most other coaster types.

General tips: Whenever the train is going fast (>35km/h or 22mp/h), bank your turns. There are some minor exceptions if you're building for realism, but in terms of stats you always want this.

Add a brake run (http://www.angelfire.com/retro/fossil/RCT2/BlockBrakes.html)) at the end of the ride to slow the train before it enters the station, so it doesn't crash or go from 60 to 0 instantly.

Keep the small turns for areas with slower speeds, something like the bottom of that drop is probably too tight. Same goes for s-bends, the one on your ride would seriously hurt.

And to help with getting E>I; scenery, other rides, paths and shops nearby boost your excitement. Tunnels do too. What you see in the test results is difference to what happens after you decorate it

>>4718328
A couple of things.
-bank fast turns
-make the coaster longer
-try to get more air time
-put breaks before the station

>>4717283
Here's my entry. Started with 13 inversions, but had to cut three off to get under the red.

>>4717704
how do you make it look so good?

>Still no see through paths toggle yet

>>4719874
It's been there for a little while, anon.

>>4719897
>No keyboard shortcut
Might as well not exist