/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[03-28] Elementalism, a megawad announced for GZDoom.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100102-elementalism/

[03-28] Port Glacia, a large nonlinear Boom map
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100055-port-glacia/

[03-28] Atonement, a vanilla megawad, episodes 1 & 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95318-atonement/

[03-28] Demon Counter Strike updated to v0.04b
http://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/demoncounterstrike-v0.04b.pk3

[03-28] Japanese Texture Pack aka Tenchu4Doom updated
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cddd8j0fl23lcb3/Japanese%20Texture%20Pack%20%28aka%20Tenchoom%29%20v.01.wad

[03-26] Autoautosaver: configurable autosaves at set points and values
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59889

[03-26] GZDoom 3.3.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59945

[03-24] Colourful Hell updated to 0.930
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1046129#p1046129

[03-24] Anon mod release: meatshot (less penetrative shotgun)
https://my.mixtape.moe/erbiuc.wad

[03-22] Jim Flynn, Boom co-author, Master Levels mapper, TeamTNT member passes away at age 66
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100017-jim-flynn/

[03-22] DM4 Jam released (22 SP quake maps)
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61554

[03-22] Anon map release: (4 Boom-compatible maps, title unknown)
https://my.mixtape.moe/zwnzxn.wad

[03-22] zEpisodic: preserve your weapons across Doom/Heretic episodes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59912
v1.2 with doom_complete.pk3 support:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1045711#p1045711
doom_complete.pk3:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/sy27ypldyt29dk1/doom_complete.pk3

[03-21] Anon map update: Ace Of Base
https://mega.nz/#!AtcDFbhY!RhFWg6vIu9eANBVlVAxF2pBI1qXW94MGihSW11_yfjs

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>>4674865
hope my potato can run it.

>>4674891
it looks cool

but does it play well?

>>4674891
Really talking themselves up with those features.
>Atmospheric, top-tier level design

I hope those level designs are very WIP because at the moment they mostly look like generic modern-style Doom maps.

>>4674891
That's usually my main concern whenever I see very visually aesthetic WADs.

>>4674915
it says they're hoping to release it "before summer 2019".

>>4674891
>Elementalism utilizes the very latest GZDoom features; it is designed to work with GZDoom 3.3.0 and onwards. It will require a decent spec PC to run as it makes heavy use of OpenGL 3.0+ specific effects, such as the shadowmaps, normal-maps, MD3 models and more.

>>4674865
looks cool, question is if it will come out

>>4674934
you forgot
>You will be able to disable some features if your computer is struggling, however.

>>4674937
Still, can't help but be concerned. I guess it will all depend on how much we can customize the effects.

>>4674918
These ones always make me think it'll be the modern version of that detailed to fuck but unplayable as hell DM map from decades ago.

>>4674934
>GZDoom 3.3.0

>>4674943
By the time it's out, GZDoom will probably still be on 3.3 because Graf will drag out the data collection

New Intermission podcast when?

lmao

this is the part where we'll truly see the division between those who are willing to play a GZDOOM project with the new stuff going on and those who won't, even if they're actually able to.

>>4674891
Looks more like Quake than Doom

>>4674958
I'm fine with there being a division, especially if it leads to competition in one way or another.

>>4674958
how will you tell the difference?

>>4674891
This reeks of "promising too much", but we'll see what happens.

>>4674963
I bet it would've worked better on Quake too.

OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT FOR YET A N O T H E R THREAD-LENGTH CHIMPOUT

>>4674997
Chill out, sperg. The only person chimping out here is you.

>>4675002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEGAoN4iKx4
>That Pulse Rifle sprite
>That anime girl pain sound
It hurts

>>4674997
huh did i miss something

>>4674863
imps are cute

>>4675012
Can you at least play as a male, with pain and death sounds from the game?

>>4675012
That actually looked pretty good.

Atleast until the Redeemer explosion.

>>4674950
New Evolution Of The Wad, when?

>>4675034
GMOTA update when?

What were Doomguy's parents like?

>>4675030
The weapons (sans awful sprite edits) are from Unrealistic Guns Advanced, a 10 year old skulltag mod.

>>4675040
UNF

>>4675040
Adult Commaner Keen and
Shit, did he had a love interest or a girlfriend? i forgot

>>4675040
Mother was a space engineer, father was some bigwig in the army.

>>4674891
Can't wait

>>4674891
>>4674982
>>4674997
Reminds me of Halo 2 coming out for PC... but you could only play it on Vista because it required DX10... so you had to buck up and get Vista just to be able to see the vista of that which was Halo 2.

This megawad reeks of being Technology Bait... I would not be surprised if there was some kind of agreement between Graf & co and whoever is doing this megawad. To make it look that fucking beautiful...

And I have a right to be paranoid because of Gamergate, I wasnt here to see gamergate but I read up about it.
If Graf is collecting information and has an agreement to sell that info (for whatever reason) then he would have alot riding on it. This isnt the first time someone has gone out of their way to provide content or apps for some kind of subversive purpose. Alot can be said through private messaging and discord, it doesnt have to be disclosed in forums.
> inb4 the paranoia actually has a precident, its possible...
> also has anyone actually checked out the source code for the new 3.3.0 data collection, who's to say that those three data points are all that its collecting...

>>4674934
>(((gzdoom 3.3.0)))

>>4675063

>>4675063
You okay, dude?

>>4675069
>14'er

Frogposting aside, this is typical behavior for them.

Why can't source ports, or even games like Quake 1 and Quake 2, switch between the software rendering and hardware rendering on the fly?

If a source port of Doom uses Open gl, why isn't there an option to switch back to the old pixelated images too?

>>4675065
nope its more like this reaction image here, scratch on the record player and all that...
>>4675064

I have no interest in the elemental megawad, but it just seems too eerie and uncanny. My mind connects dots. If it sounds fishy thats fine, but when things start lining up like this...
> its like when you see the shifty looking dude at the dance pull out a bike lock and start heading for the emergency exit

>>4675071
nah, I was 14 back when quake came out, played Q2 for the first time at a small tech expo my dad took me to at the local civic center in '98

>>4675053
>Commander Keen getting it on with someone
Please Billy is pure

>>4675078
Sure sure, whatever you say.

>>4675012
>sprite is Quake 2 playermodel
They didn't even fuckin' try.

>>4675076
What are you getting at? Why would you want to switch on the fly?

>>4675076
Gee, I dunno, probably because it's a completely different rendering system?

>If a source port of Doom uses Open gl, why isn't there an option to switch back to the old pixelated images too?
Are you confusing software/hardware rendering with texture filtering? Idiot frogposter.

>>4675078
I meant to say you sound like you started on 4chan in 2014 when the thing you mentioned began and you certainly have the intelligence and levels of paranoia to back that up.

>>4675040
It's not like there's five games about him or anything.

>>4675063
>> also has anyone actually checked out the source code for the new 3.3.0 data collection
i have, i read the code on github when it was first announced and someone linked it here.
>who's to say that those three data points are all that its collecting...
they are.

>>4675097
Just ignore it. That's an inconvenient fact it'll ignore and knowledge is anathema to these "people".

>>4674934
>GZDoom 3.3.0

>>4675040
i think his dad was a carpenter or something

>>4674934
How much behind the scenes influence do you reckon Graf has had on the team behind this?

Pretty suspicious they just happen to have a new shiny megawad planned out right after release, supposedly using latest features that don't do anything the players can even discern.

>>4675110
About as much as as your chance of getting laid.

i still remember when colorfull hell had a black arachnotron, that didn't had any custom sprites at all
if hege browses these threads, i wonder if he'd be interested in these arachno-tank sprites i've found
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15080&start=20685

Just finished plutonia in UV, and i found out the first levels were the hardest.
So i ask, what's a nice megawad to play that's close in terms of difficulty to plutonia?

>>4675090
started a couple years late on that, I wish I was around to have seen it... but back then I didnt know 4chan had anything else other than hentai and it looked hard to navigate, so I didnt come around
> showed up in pol back in '16 because FBI anon posted serious incriminating stuff about hillary that I already knew for a fact from other circles that I used to swim in - someone posted the screencap on another site that I was on
> then when the erdogan turkey coup happened I was cemented here because I heard about it here from people on the ground who were actually watching the tanks out in the streets before the sun came up
> oh cool look they also have a retro games board, I play retro games on my toaster and ive played retro since it was retro... so ive got alot to share here
> I also frequent cooking, weapons, and a couple porn boards too
> used to also frequent /x/ except I knew way too damn much for those people and there are alot of asses there who just go there to shit or larp about paranormal when I experience it firsthand

>>4675110
exactly... its just uncanny... and very damn beautiful and polished from the looks of it

>>4675116
>if hege browses these threads
He does.

>>4675117
plutonia 2

>>4675110
>>4675119
I can't even tell if you're serious or not, you have /pol/-tier delusions.

>>4675119
>/pol/

That explains a L O T.

>>4675121
Fair enough, but i want something that has a different theme too.

>>4675117
plutonia revisited

>tfw actual content creators like term or kegan don't fall into the temptation to become trip or namefags but then you have this faggot who's only using a name to continuously ramble about how awesome he is

>>4675130
try Scythe 2
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/scythe2
or Speed of Doom.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/sodfinal

>>4675130
how about alien vendetta?

>>4675138
the latter used to post as "GMOTA Guy".

>>4675139
Already played scythe 2 but haven't tried speed of doom.
>>4675142
Have played a few maps on doomseeker but never played it by myself.

Thanks for the suggestions

>>4674992
it absolutely would, that screenshot would be 10 minutes in Trenchbroom.

>>4675080
>Billy is pure
Tell that to MAP32

>>4675110
i think it's likely he's been working on it for some time.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/70830-post-your-doom-picture-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=1827072

"I've been exploring combining Shadow Maps from the latest versions of GZDoom with the Ancient Aliens texture set, for a new as-yet-unannounced project" -- Bauul, Dec. 2017

>>4675163
>>4675110
("he" being bauul of course, not graf)

>>4675138
>>4675143
Yeah I used to namefag as GMOTA guy. Then I realized that was really fucking stupid and I stopped.

>>4674934

>>4675153
Fuck Adrian's edginess.

>>4675168
Don't mind me just stealing this.

>>4675168
That's fucking excellent

>>4674891
I wish they'd turn off bloom when taking their screenshots.

>>4674891
I hope my potato can run it. I had plans to build myself a gaming rig, but my boss was a fucking retarded faggot who thought that fixing PCs would translate into fixing phones. Backfired on day one. My coworkers were a drug dealer and a Reddit admin.

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/qackz7327rzrw21,09weom1yf1zvqot,cqg6nw2s4qoczus,7m33683og4gbyc4,9ngghkdu9dtf9hm,8ppi662eecg2pux,j1njwufydyjgpjg,12xb4hxvibfn7eu,622sb19ks26yiak,pdzwjaenwn1yi32,1tzpgksztvi6b0q/shared

For the guy who's looking for the Doom Quickstart Archive, here's the link. Remember that it's in 7z format, so you need to have 7-zip or something that can open it.

>>4674992
>>4674963
might as well complain about that guy who made MK2 in Doom, why go through all that effort when you can just play regular Mortal Kombat 2?

it's the very fact that you can do it in doom that people do it, that's the gist of it all. also of course, it means that a mod can be compatible with other doom mods, though with Elementalism having custom monsters and weapons already it seems like it's gonna need that vanilla treatment TUTNT had recently for that to happen.

>>4675063
>Reminds me of Halo 2 coming out for PC... but you could only play it on Vista because it required DX10
There was a patch to run it on Windows XP one week after the game release, so no?

>>4675168

>>4674891
>"Interpolation points" is listed as a "cutting edge GZDoom graphical feature"
What did they mean by this

>>4675230
Oh also, I'd much rather they actually used GZDoom to its potential and do stuff like in that image there (StormCatcher.77's DMP2017 map), rather than "classic gameplay doom maps but we put in a few 3d models and slopes and turned on some graphics"

>>4674891
>>4675168
>>4674934


>>4675218
never knew this

>>4675092
Seven

>>4675235
Good thing the project is a megawad that's a year away and the screenshots most certainly were just to show the graphics.

I'm sick of the Graf and 3.3.0 bashing that's been going on lately
Sure Graf is a bit of a pest no-ing suggestions left and right and getting butthurt about Lilith, but do you guys seriously believe he's up to something diabolical with GZDoom 3.3.0's spec survey?

Graf Zahl is a Programmer.. Not a supervillian

>>4675249
Hope so.

>>4675172
Adrian being an edgy boi really lent Doom a lot of its style.

Is Project ILE still a name recognized in this general?

>>4675286
Didn't it die on it's arse?

>>4675291
I have no idea what it is, just that a friend talked about it a lot.

So I started the remaster process. I don't know how long will it take to remaster them all but it'll be a lot of fun. What you guys think?

>>4675291
I don't remember that happening. If anything, I remember the author posting some work on it some months ago.

>>4675291
>>4675294

Still working on it. Or at least, a major rework of the entire system.

I joined that one day9 '30 day project challenge' thing in order to finally finish this.

Most weapons are 80% except the ones I haven't even started yet, and I've got some subsystems to work on. Probably expanded my scope on this since the rework.

Did end up scrapping the chainsaw replacement entirely, and I'm going to add an inventory-based spell subsystem that uses chainsaw spawns instead. Have a spell to heal or armor up, or a spell to stop time for a time, etc. Basically, mana-to-powerup conversion.

>>4675316
Posted HUD questions a few days ago, actually, and took the feedback. Pic related.

>>4675321
>Posted HUD questions a few days ago, actually, and took the feedback. Pic related.
Ah fuck, missed that one, my bad.

This shit is driving me nuts. I've got a custom switch but it's refusing to play a custom sound.

Anyone mess with switches in ANIMDEFS before?

>>4674875
i just finished grezzo 2
what did i think of it?

>>4675294
There are links to it in the previous news pastebin.

>>4675326
its shit

>>4675326
its great

>>4675326
it's so shit that it's great

>>4675326
its great at being shit

>>4675301

Someone give me a map they're working on for me to demo

>>4675301
>>4675369
looks cool

>>4675326
I don't know, what did you think of it?

>>4675301
>>4675369
Noice.

>>4675334
>>4675340
>>4675342
>>4675351
well done boys

>>4675374
>>4675387
I want to see them working on the actual engine but I'm so in the zone that I can't shift to Slade now, anyone wanna try?

https://imgur.com/a/K836y

>>4675415
btw i dun goofd this one, fuck

I'm using a heavy workaround to ace the original colors. Pure Photoshop witchcraft that sometimes backfires and produces shoddy results. I'll dedicate this weekend perfecting the method.

So I've got an custominventory item that I want to stay in the inventory, even after being used. How do I do that? I can use it, but then it just vanishes.

>>4675437
Have the Use state end in Fail instead of Stop.

>>4675321
I'd say that's an improvement for sure. Easier to read at a glance without so much going on.

>>4675301
>>4675369
Looks very good. Here's my last pass: https://mega.nz/#!EokRWJ7C!uH3qQXpTDZWzt5yRDamSdHM17ZrRoiIEDdib7he2C64
Many more pics deleted, many more composites made, and many more organized & named. It's not totally finished but I'm gonna have to stop here.

>>4675512
Thank you very much anon, you'll not be forgotten! I guess I can fend myself from now on. Hope we can see some nice maps as soon as it's done!

SO. New update! I've thrown another like 30 hours into this thing and it's getting somewhat close to completion, so here's another update!

>>http://www.mediafire.com/file/28im4zb6z59z3ek/Project__ILE.zip
ProjectILE Version 0.12!
Changes:
--New Mana system- gather it from monsters!
--All weapon altfires use mana now
--Monsters tweaked
--Weapons HEAVILY tweaked, and in some cases completely changed.
--Imps finally fucking fixed, I swear to god if I have to mess with them again
--Lasercacos are still amazing.

DM4 Jam is pretty good and you should play it if you haven't. That is all.

I've heard that GZDoom can actually work for coop games, how do you do this?

>>4675653
https://zdoom.org/wiki/multiplayer

Basically, host must set number of players to start with. Then game starts when they are all connected.

>>4675648
I plan on building a PC so that'll be on hold for at least a while. a very long while.

Anyone good with trenchbroom here?

I recently started out mapping for Quake 1 using the trenchbroom manual & Dumptruck_ds's youtube tutorial series as my main references. There's a couple of things I cant seem to find info on:

1: Is there a way to align textures without moving the brush? the only way I know how to do it so far is select a brush, assign a texture, turn off texture lock, then move the brush around until the texture lines up, lock it again & move it back to its original position. I figure there's probably a much better way of doing this I dont know about yet?

2: How do I rotate a light so the light direction points straight up or down? If i select the light with the rotate tool only the direction only changes on the horizontal axis' not vertically like i want. I figured this might be achieved by altering the mangle value in the entity inspector, but messing with it just makes the light glitch out regardless of the number I try. What am I doing wrong?

>>4675657
I'm top brainlet, is there some sort of launcher for GZDoom multiplayer, or does Doomseeker work fine for it?

>>4675672
dont know about a launcher, never used one

when i play with a friend of mine, I launch from command line with something like this:

START gzdoom.exe -host <no of players incl yourself> -iwad <whatever map/mod needs> -skill <4=uv> -file <your mods and maps>

you can add +sv_cheats 1 if you feel your are under supplied with ammo

what will happen is you'll see the a GUI pop up and zdoom will just say it's waiting, then it's up to your pals to use the -join switch instead of -host correctly

obviously, you need to make sure your router is forwarding the port 5029 to your machine

>>4675034
I asked CapnClever about it a month or so ago. He said he is a lot more busy than he used to be. He seemed to still want to make more.

>>4675685

This is pretty much the exact situation I'm in with Intermission.
(Hope that answers your question, >>4674950!)

>>4675672
Quickly Launchering GZDoom has a multiplayer loading option.

>>4675669
Do you not have a working computer at the moment or something?

>>4675671
>1: Is there a way to align textures without moving the brush? the only way I know how to do it so far is select a brush, assign a texture, turn off texture lock, then move the brush around until the texture lines up, lock it again & move it back to its original position. I figure there's probably a much better way of doing this I dont know about yet?
In the right pane, click the Face tab, the one where you select what texture you want. Under the big grey box, there's X offset, Y offset, angle, and X/Y scale- use those to align the texture exactly how you want it. Note that this will affect the entire brush- if you want to edit only one side, hold Shift and click the face you want first. This will also fill that big grey box with the texture you're using with the shape of the currently selected brush face overlaid so you can see exactly how it lines up.

If you want to reverse how a texture appears, you can use negative numbers for the X/Y scale options: -1 will invert the texture in that direction, which you'll be using a lot if you're using the standard map format (instead of Valve 220) as on any given square brush, two sides will be backwards due to the texture format (based on world coordinates instead of brush face coordinates).

>2: How do I rotate a light so the light direction points straight up or down? If i select the light with the rotate tool only the direction only changes on the horizontal axis' not vertically like i want. I figured this might be achieved by altering the mangle value in the entity inspector, but messing with it just makes the light glitch out regardless of the number I try. What am I doing wrong?
Normally you have to give the light a target-targetname field pair with an info_null- the light will then point at the info_null. If you're using newer tools (i.e. ericw's), you use the mangle field with three values for yaw, pitch, and roll (i.e. 0 90 0).

>>4675703
One day I'll remember to flatten images in Paint.NET before posting them.

Also, spotlights behave differently from standard area lights, they have separate fields for how wide an area they light up and are generally much less bright than a normal light at the same distance so you may have to increase the brightness/change the delay or wait/etc. to get the effect you want.

>>4675703
I do but everything AD runs like absolute shit on it.

>>4675718
DM4 Jam isn't AD-reliant, it's plain id1. Most mapsets are.

Does anyone else get really severe slowdown playing Smooth Doom with gibs on GZDoom? Are there settings in GZDoom I can turn off to generally make it run better, or am I just shit outta luck? I've got an FX-8320 CPU and a 970, so it seems a little strange that Doom could fuck up that badly.

>>4674934
>>4675168
Newfag here, what's wrong with >GZDoom 3.3.0

>>4675703
>>4675706

Wow thanks a lot anon, you basically solved both issues. With regards to lighting, I am using Ericw's tools, my issue was not realizing which of the three values was altering pitch. I didnt know about the target info_null method, is there any specific instances where this has any advantage over editing the mangle value or did more modern tools render this obsolete?

Thanks again anon.

>>4675735
just tested it and I got a good 15 frames.

>>4675748
Absolutely Nothing
People are just bitching because it's one step closer to having incompatibility on some older hardware that only a minority of doomers use

>>4675748
Nothing
Conspiracyfags doing their usual
It happens after every new GZDoom release
Just ignore them

>>4675748
Just some nutters who are against visual upgrades

>>4675748
>>4675753
>>4675756
Not only that, but it's such a poorly diminutive amount of players that have ancient stone age hardware.
They, in my personal opinion, should fuck off already.

>>4675760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UsAtgtBmo

>>4675752
I have no idea what kind of computer you're using but I would strongly suggest finding something newer than a 486. Or hell, maybe that's exactly what you need, the smaller maps in the jam are even less complex than id's own vanilla levels.

>>4675749
>I didnt know about the target info_null method, is there any specific instances where this has any advantage over editing the mangle value or did more modern tools render this obsolete?
It's been rendered obsolete with the new tools, the one advantage is if you're sketching shit together real quick and don't want to precisely figure out the angles, you just want a light to shine at a certain spot. IIRC it doesn't really make a difference anyway though, unlike info_notnull, info_null isn't compiled as part of the map (only used to aim lights, then deleted) so it doesn't take up an entity slot either way.

>randomly thinking about Doom again
>remember seeing the big box PC release on the shelf at Wal-mart all those years ago and looking at it with wonder
>"hmm that would be pretty cool to buy on ebay"
>look at prices
>oh dear
>oh my

>>4675325
Are you defining the sounds in SNDINFO?

>>4675685
Oh man! It's great to hear they still want to do it, EOTW is very much my favorite video series on Doom.

>Skelegant's now making a Kirby mod
Ah, fuck. If I ever manage to get mine in a releasable state, I really hope people don't think I got the idea from them.

>>4675775
It turns out my issue was two-fold.
You can't attach sounds to switches if they are midis.
There is a drop-off for sound, so after a certain distance away, a shootable-switch makes the default switch noise instead of a custom one.

>>4675802

Would it matter? Make what you want. People are going to see correlations no matter what.

>>4675821
actually, on that second note it doesn't play a different sound at a distance at all. presumably it plays the same sound, only at 0% volume

>>4675823
Depression and being slow to do things just feels bad is all.

>>4675831

I feel you, bro. It'd be wonderful to have infinite time to work on all the ideas and make 'em all good.
But for what it's worth, if you go through with it and put it out, I'll be judging it on its own merits rather than comparing it to other mods.
I've seen a lot of mods that looked like ripoffs of other mods, but oftentimes it turns out multiple people had the same idea and one just did it faster than the other.

So after putting off Doom II's campaign because I found the outdated level design kinda boring, I started Scythe 2 and have been having an absolute blast. I'm close to finishing it now (I play between other games in small bursts), what should I play next for some solid modern megaWAD goodness?

>>4675759
>>4675756
>>4675760
>>4675753
Hi Graf!

>>4675802
Just when I thought I've seen everything done in Doom.

>>4675847
>I'll be judging it on its own merits rather than comparing it to other mods.
Sounds like a good thing to do in general, really.

>>4675862
About time you finally said it! <33333

>>4675876
inb4 ew using a font's characters to express feelings on an anonymous board is absolute taboo hang the faggot immediately

>>4675881
Well, I do want to hang as the faggot I am already.

>>4675883
Shush, you're pissing off the normies.

>>4675765
lol it fixed itself somehow, can play it now. pretty cool maps. the one map by scarecrow was the tits.

>>4675821
>>4675829
ahahaha figured it out. $attenuation
I am pretty darn pleased with myself

>>4675901
I prefer $rolloff, it's more intuitive
also is anyone else getting a bug where the captcha completely ignores you clicking on it?

Castevil.wad, as well as its beta, is a tasteless pointless Willits-worthy piece of crap.

I think, I'll just drop them and switch to Kvernmo's maps.

So, NeoDoom...should I just play the Gold Edition and skip the original?

>>4675902
oh, that's pretty cool too. thanks anon

though what I am using it for at the moment, I've recreated the eye switch from ocarina of time and I wanted the jingle to go with it when activated

>>4675748
Seriously tho: It cuts compatibilities with older OpenGL, so Athom netbooks and weaker PCs take a huge performance hit when transitioning to the new one. Not noticable on maps where that means going from 700 fps down to 300 fps, but very noticable when it goes from very playable 60 fps down to choppy and inconsistent 30-40 fps on the more complex maps.

>>4675012
>they use inferior sprite rips
>even though I made superior rips readily available
>the intricacy of ASMD and FLAK physics completely ignored

why even bother

>>4675923
the dude literally just lifted the guns from voltlock's old unrealguns mod
hell, I was waiting for him to use the pulse rifle alt-fire just to see if it still didn't have the beam, but he never did

>>4675908
i'm sorry you feel this way, i think castevil.wad is one of the finest 1994 maps.

has anyone here had issues with how the sword throw controls work for GMOTA at the moment? I got someone saying it's clunky and they're having serious issues throwing subweapons when they mean to throw their sword.
While I've never had that issue myself, I should probably get input from other people as well.

>>4675943
You can't throw your sword in power mode, it just uses your subweapon. Is that what they meant?

>>4675956
No, they're having issues with accidentally throwing their subweapons when they mean to throw the sword, they said the current set up of tap to throw subweapon and hold to throw the sword is clunky. It doesn't bother me but I feel like I should start asking others about this too.

>>4675110

I'm pretty sure the new graphic features were developed by dpjudas for a commercial project

yes, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOfw6HNcmj8

>>4675943
The only problem I have is that sometimes after doing some action the RMB doesn't register at all. I guess I'm pressing it too early or something.

>>4676067
There's actually a little delay after throwing subweapons where you can press, let go, and then hold it to autofire subweapons, but only while you're holding the sword. That might be it

>>4676067
I've had that problem as well, and I kept thinking that it was my mouse.

>>4676070
Yeah, I noticed someone mentioning this here. Pretty neat, I always just spammed RMB. But what I'm talking about is more like RMB not registering right after I switch to the sword or after a swing. I guess I'm pressing it before the animation finishes fully, it doesn't really bother me much.

Dunno if that Anon looking for treelines is still around, but NeoDoom(Gold Edition) has some on MAP10.

>>4676094
Those fucking vixens.

>>4675943
Hey, is the SSG replacement for doomslayer supposed to be obscenely powerful? I can two shot the archvile replacement with it.

>>4676135
Yeah I dun goofed. It deals double the damage of the normal shotgun. I've fixed that in this coming update.

What's a good weaponset that would fit well with Super MAYhem 17?

>>4675437
>>4675440
nifty trick... I didnt know "fail" was a command, just figured the only ones that you could use were goto, loop, stop

Hey check this out... I want to shoot a projectile from at weapon that then delivers a shotgun blast forward (straight forward from the shooter, or targeting whoever was under the reticle). But whenever ive tried this in the past it just shoots the player instead.

Two ideas involved are delivering a projectile that explodes downrange and also scatters shrapnel (or delivers a low damage shotgun blast to ampilfy painchances) - but it doesnt spray the player with it, ie only targets a specific arc. Maybe even only spreads side to side instead of forwards and backwards so that it has a higher chance to hit whatever is next to the target.

Also a railgun shotgun, but since railgun shots dont have any accuracy deviation I think I would need to emit a projectile which then turns itself randomly in different directions to deliver the railgun shots (instantly). They could be lasers or ghost beams or particle beams, terminal capabilities of the railgun shots are irrelevant.
> this is to avert using ripper fastprojectiles and just do things properly


Also im still wondering how to do this "only hits a monster once" BFG spray trick. So that the bfg spray only whops a monster for some fixed amount if it hits them (something like 250 damage). Im thinking that im going to have to replace all the monsters in order to get this effect though.
> hacky lo damage bfg spray that sends monster to a bfg spray painstate, which then displays the effect and zaps them

>>4676148
Railgun shots do have accuracy deviation, with Spread_XY and Spread_z And if you slap a certain flag in there, you can make it non-piercing.

>>https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_RailAttack

>>4676151
how do I define "spread_xy"... afaik spread it handled with two separate variables and I dont know how to define separate X and Y spreads within the same variable...

(is this implying that it can only generate a perfectly circular trajectory cone and not an oval shaped one like other shot attacks?)

also what is Spread_Z? that one doesnt make sense at all since you're sending the shot forward in an angular cone (Z is a depth dimension...)

>>4676153
spread xy is horizontal spread, spread z is vertical. Zdoom is weird.

But the spreads are like any variable as part of any decorate function. You've gotta go through A_RailAttack (Numbers,Numbers,Numbers,...) all the way until you get to the spreads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNsP297s7Ys
Aagh, what other wad have I heard this music in? It's bothering the heck out of me because I remember the music itself so well! It's so good.
Apparently all of NeoDoom's music was done by the author, it's really sweet.

>>4676160
Also why does practically every map have rats everywhere god damn.

>>4676157
okay thanks for the clarification... other functions just say spread_x (horizontal) and spread_y (vertical) so when I read that description in the railgun function I couldnt tell if there was some kind of 4D chess going on with it. Whoever labeled that differently for the railgun function was a ditz.
> Im okay with setting the other junk in the string, I have to do that for other things too.


Still I wonder how to do this shrapnel casting explosive that doesnt blast back at the player. Does that mean I just offset the bullet attack by 180 degrees so that it goes away from the player? (sounds like a dirty hack which likely wont credit kills properly)


Im also looking for a way to deliver that single BFG spray hit. I like to think that the BFG is good for crowd control but if you want to take on a boss you really ought to hit it with the main projectile. Would balance it pretty nicely by making it do what people expect it to do, tame down some of its brokenness.

>>4676160
Ah, I got it! the music was used in Whitemare 2, MAP01. Completely uncredited in the readme file.

>>4675648
There is A ZDL equivalent for Q1?

the newest Quakespasm builds removed the maps option ingame

https://twitter.com/Dragonfly_Doom/status/979096552429015040

The replies have people being so blindfully faithful that it'll be good even though there's no good level design shown, just purty gzdoom graphics.

So I've finally gotten to e1m4b (replayed e1m1-e1m2-e1m3-e1m9-e1m4 for context too), UV-pistolstart.

My impressions from that part of nu-episode1 can be summed this way:

"Don't you think, player, that it somewhat humiliating for you to use the pittance, the handouts, I, the author of these levels, provide to you? Don't you, the player, think, that depending upon my fancy should be a bit insulting to you? A bit below your sense of self-worth? No? OK, have it your way. I am making you waste your time on some very, very stupid things, but you are the one who agrees to let me do that to you out of your's own volition. What do you get in return? A sense of accomplishment, that you've beaten me somehow. Despite my clearly giving the victory to you just because I felt like it. That's simply some wishful thinking on your part, player. And you should totally feel a bit humiliated, by the way."

>>4676261
Frankly I'm getting this feeling that these guys are biting more than they can chew.

>>4676329
how long have you been waiting to use this phrase.

>>4676325
can you rewrite that in less flowery language? say like in one sentence. i can't figure what you're actually trying to say. it's too low on health/ammo pickups?

I'm trying to locate a doom map, this is what I know.

>Single level (afik)
>H.R Giger inspired, but it isn't "Adessa"
>There is a kind of "going downwards" theme to the whole map, feels isolating
>Final fight is against two archviles
>Thought it got a cacoward but may have just been nominated, have checked every winner for the last 11 years and no sign

Any ideas?

>>4675753
>>4675760
>>4675756
>>4675759
>this level of falseflagging going unquestioned

/v/eddit really has won, hasn't it

>>4676347
or you're the one who took the bait, either/or

>>4676239
simple quake launcher

>>4676332
It's okay, anon, it's never too late to learn new things.

Can someone recommend me a wad like prodoomer with some sort of campaign, leveling up and tons of stuff?

>>4676347
another interpretation was that an obvious trollpost (pretend to be new, ask for full explanation of current contentious topic = obvious bait for both sides of the issue to get into a fight with each other) got 4 replies. this is bad and those 4 people should be ashamed for falling for it, but at least the replies didn't get further replies, which is a better outcome than usual.

>>4676325
the fuck are you on about

Which Wolfenstein mod do you prefer? Kriegsland or Doom Incarnate?

it's like a cricket.

https://youtu.be/Eqf-gcOp7bI?t=1m9s

>>4676434
At Doom's Gate in this port was atrocious.
It sounded like a storm of farts.

>>4676441
ALL songs in that game sound like a storm of farts.

Do anyone here know any compatible mods for ECWolf? All I have are texture packs.

Do anyone here have played Flakes Doom?
I think it's a sweet mod,especially for the compatibility with other Doom engine games.

>>4676338
I'll try to reformulate.

Lack of resources (health first and foremost, given Romero's love for surprise attacks)

encourages/provokes to player to fall back to environment/encounter-specific auxiliary means to tackle fights and gain advantage (barrels, infight provocations, backtracking, searching for secrets, looking for "out of ordinary" hints designating secrets, saveloads) instead of direct confrontations

those auxiliary means are obligingly provided by the author for the exact purpose of serving as a fallback, are strictly controlled and manipulated by him; you are encouraged to start thinking in "necessity is the mother of invention" mindset, and to use those "advantages" habitually, not only when they are actually necessary

when you were launching the game, you hoped to spend your time with it in a particular way, you imagined it somehow, quite specifically.

when you fall back on ad-hoc strategies author urges you to rely upon, you are not playing that game anymore. In fact, whatever you imagine in regards to the game you are playing, isn't corroborated by the game, since the author deliberately tries to be as unpredictable as possible in regards to "fallback solutions". You are deliberately left guessing, trying to guess what's the next thing author has in mind, which you naturally cannot, since you are not a psychic

so instead of playing the game you have imagined when launching the game, you are playing the game of trying to guess what game the author wants you to play. The gameplay sort of gets hijacked from you

that, however, only happen if you use "pittance" solutions HABITUALLY, if you learn to rely upon their presence. That way you resign yourself to the fact that you are not provided with whatever service you imagined being provided with prior to launching the game

>>4676459
and the thing that makes you NOT take the "easy apparent way" HABITUALLY (when there is no necessity to take it) and to basically play your own game whenever it's possible within the confines created by the author of the level, is called PRIDE

and Romero's actual aim, in his leveldesigns, seems to be destroying said player's pride and enforcing a HABIT of ALWAYS playing "Romero's game" - meaning, to make player OBEY

>>4676464
In other words, the player is treated, in a prejudiced manner, as an opportunist, someone who doesn't have a backbone - in alleged contrast with the author, I presume.

>>4676453
isn't that icon of sin in Freedoom?

>>4676484
dunno about you but i chainsawed my way through half of e1m4b

>>4676490

>>4676459
>>4676464
>>4676484
Wow it's almost like the game plays differently when you pistol start on UV

>>4676484
thanks, i didn't get the first two but i think finally i get your point

someone please guide this dude, he was stuck for an hour on level 6 of doom 2 yesterday. Not to mention it took him like 6 hours to beat episode 3 of doom 1. Also he is playing the Doom 3 BFG version of doom
twitch DOT tv/cricketco1

>>4676518
nypa

>>4676518
>stuck for an hour on level 6 of doom 2
>it took him like 6 hours to beat episode 3 of doom 1
What the heck. How?

>>4676523
i'm trying to help him retard. but i don't have the map knowledge to help him with secrets.

>>4676524
it's probably his first time playing an old school shooter, he has no sense of resource management, and he sure as hell has no side strafing abilities.

>>4676529
Maybe he is just a bit, you know

Petersen-ed?

Yeeeeeeeeaahhhhh.

Currently playing Doom 64 Retribution,so far it's great.It's arguably the best way to play Doom 64.
It deserves more attention.

Am I doing well /vr/ ?

Beautiful Doom or Smooth Doom?

>>4675862
>>4676347
Skepticism about the release was good but the well got poisoned by paranoid retards thinking that grabbing your IP was evil, or that Graf was going to sell the data to indie game devs

so what's the purpose behind this data gathering thing anyways? does Graf's plan involve manually revising every individual player's setup to get a better idea of how they play the game? will there be any major changes made to GZDoom in the future as result of this experiment or are we just meant to take it as the norm now?

>>4676550
What are you doing? Making the top left sprite or editing the gun itself?

The gun looks pretty shit but the sprite is nicely done.

>>4676590
I wouldn't call it shit, it doesn't look bad per se. it's just a tad simpler than what I'm used to seeing in most mods.

>>4676582
Fa/gg/ots ruin everything.

>>4676589
optimization of future versions.

basically people who are playing gzdoom on a commodore 64 will be left behind.

>>4676549
Doom64 EX is better

>>4676580
smooth

all the way

>>4676590
Well, I try to make my own gun that I can add into my WAD. I do sprite on the top by myself, but as the gun itself I use 80% assets from Duke3D. So yeah. But I work on it.

>>4676589
i think he wants to confirm his suspicion that no-one uses certain renderer back-ends that are unpopular with him, and drop them, with statistics to back up the change

>New Doom 2016 update is 1 GB
>Simply adds support for Razer's techicolor neon dick ricer peripherals

What

>>4676618
that's what happens when you run software you don't have control over. stick to the classics, they're open source.

t. concern troll

>>4676621
yes, this change is so maddening we've collectively regressed to the dark ages.

pardon?

I may sound stupid, but i feel like Wolfenstein 3d, could be at least a bit better, if they took advantage of wall textures being colorfull and diverse, to helo make levels feel same-y

>>4676235
I FUCKIN' RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU LITTLE SNEAK.
That's some god damn NeoDoom.
How dare you not host a server with it and notify the entire thread.

>>4676630
>to help make levels feel LESS same-y
Fuck
And also, use of props too i guess

>>4676627
you're dumb enough to try bitching about a modern game on the retro games board, and you're expecting a useful or sympathetic response?

>>4676432
Totenkopf SDL

>>4676632
It kind of does. Mind that the game was meant to run real fast and smooth on an old 386 computer.

If you want something like Wolfenstein 3D but flashier, I recommend Rise Of The Triad, it's very fun.

>>4676582
>thinking that grabbing your IP was evil
it is
>or that Graf was going to sell the data to indie game devs
this, on the other hand, is fucking stupid

>>4676589
He wants to drop support for hardware and have an excuse for it, simple as that.

>>4676648
>do something scummy
>try to justify the means with the ends
>the ends are scummy too
Classic Graf

>>4676645
>it is
why are you on the internet then? all websites are evil according to you since they are automatically grabbing your IP.

>>4676634
I'm not that guy, lol. but yeah I do agree it was a retarded response, you're correct on that.

>>4676648
you were clearly dropped on your head if you still believe that then

>>4676659
because i use a vpn

>>4676648
>>4676657
Source?

>>4676663
Guess >>4676607 was dropped on his head as well, since I said the exact same thing he did but for some reason now you don't like it. I'm sorry, did I not say it polite enough?

>>4676665
His literal ass.

>>4676668
You should go too.

>>4676665
They say it right in the thread, my dude.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=59787
>The purpose of this is to allow us to make informed decisions about hardware deprecation - i.e. if it is time to move on from OpenGL 2.x, whether to drop support for 32-bit processors, how viable a Vulkan engine will be at this point, etc. This is to avoid blindly making decisions about deprecating hardware or making assumptions about it without knowing how many people it will actually affect.

>>4676669
Hey, are you trying to compete for the smuggest, most dismissive one-liner instead of actually talking about things again?

>>4676671
Oh so it's perfectly justified then, good to know.

>>4676671
thanks, i knew i wasn't making it up. take that, >>4676668 !

>>4676659
>all websites are evil according to you
They are. Data collection should be globally banned. An open-source guy lowering himself to the moral level of data thieving filth corporations and putting malware like that in his project is a fucking cunt.

>>4676634
so you admit to be shitposting, why is that supposed to be a surprise?

>>4676676
So all website owners are by default fucking cunts? Why are you here then if you clearly are against the internet?

Hey, you forgot a few.

>>4675063
>>4675078
>>4675110
>>4675119
>>4675753
>>4675760
>>4675759
>>4675756
>>4675862
>>4675876
>>4675881
>>4675883
>>4675886

>>4676679
i admit nothing. garbage in garbage out. don't post non-retro shit on the retro board in future.

>>4676682
ah, of course you're back. i was wondering why discussion had gotten shittier recently.

>>4676657
What's scummy about either of those things?

>>4676687
who is that?

>>4676691
the backseat moderator, a guy who only competes in dismissals and shitposts and calls on the janny to clean everything

>>4676691
The backseat mod, probably.

>>4676692
>>4676693
yeah but who is that

>>4676694
Anonymous

>>4676694
Anonymous, that's as far as we know.
I'm not going to jump and go "It's S'arais!" or "It's DKG!" based upon no evidence.

>>4676696
You used the word "because" but I don't see any actual answer to my questions.

>>4676691
'ban all gun discussion' guy.
'let me samefag and reply to you 10 times in 30 minutes as I accuse you of trying to derail the thread' guy.
'playing unmodded doom is for autists' guy.
'he is quite clearly a shitposter/raider from [XXX] and needs to be removed' guy.
'janitor help me' guy.

>>4676680
>So all website owners are by default fucking cunts?
not him, he's a fucking paranoid dumbass, but yes

though less because of that, and more because i have yet to meet a sysadmin who wasn't a controlling cuntmongler
my current theory is that servers emit Moronivsky Particles that infect the brains of everyone near a more likely scenario is that i've just had the luck of meeting a lot of shitty people

>Why are you here then if you clearly are against the internet?
i'm on a vpn. i'm against data collection, but i still like being on the internet and i'm very grateful the data collection can be routed to another server entirely. it's quite amusing to get my own information on what hardware i'm using.

>>4676706
My *assumption* is that he's also the guy who keeps throwing the term "'14ers" around and gives vague implications that people who don't agree with him are Gamergate, but at this point I'm REALLY jumping to connect the dots.
Sage for suuuper off-topic.

So how 'bout that Doom, eh?

>>4676707
So what you're saying is that you're perfectly okay with enjoying something "evil" so long as you're protecting your IP from being taken? Then why not just pick the "opt out" option of the eeeeevil ip-capturing feature of gzdoom and keep playing wads made for it like normal, just like you're okay with using the internet with a vpn?

>>4676706
I remember one of his responses was 'youre more transparent than vimhomeless' or something.

I don't know what kind of comeback is that even supposed to be.

>>4676707
>not him, he's a fucking paranoid dumbass, but yes
>but yes
You're not any better.

>>4676713
I want to play a new level but every new level is just like archviles fucking everywhere it's so frustrating that I just don't want to play a new level any more.

>>4676714
>Then why not just pick the "opt out" option of the eeeeevil ip-capturing feature of gzdoom and keep playing wads made for it like normal, just like you're okay with using the internet with a vpn?
i'll repost this for you, since i think you forgot to read the entirety of my post and decided to write up a cool response very hastily
>i'm very grateful the data collection can be routed to another server entirely.

>>4676721
do you post to 4chan through a vpn? i thought they were all banned

>>4676721
no, he means there's a literal fucking yes/no prompt when you start up gzdoom
if you hit no, it doesn't bug you again

seriously, do we need to have these shitfests *every day*

>>4676726
If he's getting his own information, then it's safe to assume he opted into sending his information to himself.

sure is doom related discussion in here

>>4676726
apparently. these threads are on their last legs

>>4676726
yes, i know about that, i simply found sending my information to myself to be funnier

functionally, there is zero difference than opting out, and at that point we're simply splitting hairs

>>4676726
Yes, until you learn NOT TO RESPOND TO THE INSTIGATOR.

>>4676730
no?

toehoes

>>4676726
>>4676730
The discussion suddenly got a lot better after a certain other guy was booted out, fancy that.

>>4676743
thick cirno? now i've seen everything

>>4676730
>apparently. these threads are on their last legs
oh, i doubt that

we've had many people fighting over many things in /doom/'s history, lasting many threads as well
this is really nothing new or unusual, it's simply the latest hot topic in a series of hot topics through our history
if anything, i find it more refreshing than the usual "hi i'm new here why do people hate brutal doom???" or such

>>4676743
GIBE RAN PLS

>>4676745
Sorry about all that shit. I'm just tired of this routine.

>>4676743
>>4676746
seriously a cirno the same size as a meiling. just looks so weird.

How do you get better at Doom?

Plutonia is kicking my ass

>>4676769
keep playing.

>>4676769
Those are some cute doggos

Try to strafe more and try kiting homing revenant balls into walls
Save often.
Conserve ammo and health items lying around

>>4676597
Why it's better?

>>4676743
>call them toehoes
>can't even draw toes on them hoes

>>4676769
Utilize infighting as much as possible, unless it's hitscan enemies.
Also savescum. (Don't feel guilty about it, they put it in for a reason.)

>>4676792
It uses the actual Doom64 ROM to work instead of just being a recreation

>>4676549
Isn't Nevandar planning on adding some more extra maps?
Like, will he have enemies that weren't in the original game?

So I was playing BD V21,pretty fun.Playing Thy Flesh Consumed,It turned out that the Mastermind was replaced by Mother Demon.
She could fly high too.Is this supposed to be an Easter Egg?

>>4676805
what, on e4m8? never seen that before

>>4676805
god that looks ugly.

>>4676805

Either a spawn error or Colonel Sanders' map enhancement script being fucky again.

>>4676805
>Is this supposed to be an Easter Egg?
Might as well be some script thing he thought was cool

>>4676802
But It's an excellent recreation.
The Bonus Maps,the extra levels.
Of course if you want the full experience then you should go for the ROM.

>>4676815
yeah that sounds believable, facing the spider demon twice is repetitive -> i have a "map enhancement script" -> i will replace it with something "interesting"

>play cdoom64.wad
>gba doom levels out of nowhere
>levels out of order
what's happening?

Here's another one.
Sorry for the quality but she was flying all over the place.

I've also tried fighting the New Icon of Sin.
It was weird because it's either stupidly easy or total bullshit.
Now the Icon can fire meteors and can drain most of your health.
BUT you can strafe left and right and hitting it with the BFG 10K that you get right before the fight ,barely getting hit.

Like what?

Did anyone here played HONTE? It's a remake of Doom 2 original maps with new features.

>>4676901
this image makes me skeptical

>>4676901

>>4676918

Opinions about Brutal Wolfenstein 3D?

>>4676918
Is that a transparent flat? That's possible in gzdoom?

>>4676959
the most generic of all the brutal offshoot mods

>>4676965
Why the most generic? It brings the gameplay of RTCW in Wolf 3D and the levels, at least in the demo, are redesigned pretty well

>>4676769
Plutonia's meant to kick your ass. It's design is based on brutal ambushes that will almost always kill you the first time you see them. Just treat it like an old NES game and don't give up.

Learn your PRO DOOM MONSTER STRATS, recognize infighting opportunities, know your enemy pain chances so you can use the right weapon to keep them stunned and press an advantage (like stopping mancubi from shooting by timing your shotgun hits right) and memorize how many shots it takes to kill enemies so you can more easily prioritize who to kill when and with what. Don't rush in, recognize when you're surrounded and don't be afraid to retreat so you're not on their turf (especially with chaingunner ambushes). Snipe with the chaingun by tapping your shots out, learn how the BFG actually works.

I dunno how much of this you already know. If none of this is new to you, then just keep playing. Watch demos of other people UV-Maxing the level you're stuck on to get a sense of what high level play is.

>>4676959
Schlock just like all the other "brutal" gameplay mods.

>>4676967

I will admit I'm going off impressions from early builds but.
When i played it, it was just the Wolf3D levels but with the weapons getting added blood/gore EFFECTS!!! and some pretty damn bad resprites for Nazi gore.
I don't really have reason to think it'd change much in the subsequent updates.

>>4676580
Dead Marine.

>>4676980
I think it will get major updates in the future. One of the worst aspects in my opinion were the boss fights. The drag for too long.
Here in the Demo, which is only the 1st episode Hans can throw bombs too,which brings something new on the table.

>>4677000
Plus the creator is planning to put the original Chaingun from Wolf3D

Since there's a Brutal Wolfenstein, when's Complex Wolfenstein?

>>4677008
Where's HWolf?

>>4677010
When's MetaWolf?

>>4677010
All soldiers replaced with the SS officers from RTCW

>>4677016
But if we want to go with HDOOM artstyle then it would be something like this.

>>4677020
>hetza
Yes please.

>>4676602
As a fellow shit spriter, I believe in you.

Also, which of these do you guys prefer? Left or right?

>>4677038
The one on the right. Looks better

>>4675858
ancient aliens is pretty neat

>>4677038

Left has a more interesting design, right looks better in Doom's palette/artstyle.

>>4677038
left wouldn't feel out of place in a wolf mod

>>4677038
Right's bottom part looks empty, and left's white thing (whatever it is) is weird, but adds to the gun.
So right one.

>>4676434
I actually really like how angry and bass heavy that rumble is. Sounds like an industrial track

>>4676239
>the newest Quakespasm builds removed the maps option ingame
What. Literally just type 'maps' in the console and it lists them all.

>>4677020
>anime
no please

>>4677097
>hentai
>not anime
Pick One

>>4677105
my favorite hentai is ed, edd, & eddy

>>4677110
Now I'm picturing a shitty dub of hentai with Ed edd n' Eddy
>"Onii Chan... My hips are moving on their own!"
>SUBAWALA

>>4676550
>>4676590

You need to change the top portion of the barrel on the gun holding sprite. That downward dimpled barrel somehow feels like its been stepped on, probably why the lameduke gun its based on was rejected too.

Making it go vertical or giving it ribs in some way, greebles and whatever ought to fix it.

>>4677117

>>4677117
A-a dickie? They... they still make these?

Made this a long ago, better revive it considering where this thread is going.

>>4677178
You didn't even try.

>>4676901
>>4676918
>>4676920
WHERE'S MY FUCKING FLASHLIGHT, DENNY!?

>>4677179
That's true but that was the meme. There was so little to do with it.

How it was meant to be played.

>>4677181
The level design was cool but the lighting...having some Doom 3 vibes

What's wrong with Brutal Doom exactly?

>>4677230
Download beamflashlight.

>>4677231
Check the archives for when that was asked almost every thread; your answer's there.

>>4677229

Is this that steampunk mod?

I wonder why ID never tried to bring some of the demons from Wolf3D in Doom. There's a boss calleDevil Incarnate.

>>4677240
Yeah, playing it with saturation set to 0.

>>4676671
yeah how about NOT DEPRECIATING THE FUCKING HARDWARE damnit

HUH

>>4677020
>>4677032
>>4677097
>>4677105
>>4677110
>>4677117
either way
> the boner
> my pants
> the hole in them

>>4676671
Putting in a vulkan engine is impractical, since it's fucking expensive, and OpenGL has done consistently well. Also deprecating hardware on a source port is akin to shooting your foot off with a shotgun. The point of a source port is to fucking play it on hardware more powerful than the original specs.

>>4677243
>posting the bootleg version

>>4677262
doom 4 ran like shit my potato running on opengl, then i switched the renderer to vulcan and boom, smooth fps the whole game.

>>4677264
now that I think about it, the SOD replacement graphics were all actually hot garbage. It really makes me appreciate Adrian's work more. I don't think Doom would be anywhere near as successful if it weren't for it's artstyle.

>>4677260
HUUH

>>4677268
like how do you go from this

>>4677289
to this?

>>4677291
He sprained his arm jerkin' it, so he can't carry the gatling gun anymore.

>>4677289
>muzzleflash coming from the center 'barrel'
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THE OTHER SIX

>>4677294
My guess is that muzzleflash is concealing the other barrels, so when you think they are firing one bullet, the others come and hit you.

>>4677294
all the bosses have chainguns that do that. I assume it's a clever way to cover up the other barrels with the muzzle flash because trying to animate them spinning with such low resolution would've been tough.

Need a quick gestalt on why Randy Heit quit, and who the new ... person is who took over the zdoom website, and how this relates to the recent security "bug"

>>4676549
>It's arguably the best way to play Doom 64.
Eh doesn't have the 5-part sector lighting that makes Doom64 so atmospheric. They try to fake it using dynamic lights.

For example in pic related you can see one color at the bottom of the pillars which seamlessly blends into another at the top. This is not possible in zdoom / GZDoom. Original Doom64 has 5 different colors for each sector: a floor, ceiling, lower wall, upper wall, and thing color. They can all be different and can be any color. The lower wall color will seamlessly blend into the upper wall color.

The Best way to play Doom64 on PC has always been Doom64EX.

>>4677319
>why Randy Heit quit
who knows
probably lost interest
>who the new ... person is who took over the zdoom website
neither graf nor rachel/eruanna are new, they've been contributing to the engine for a while
kind of twats, but eh
>and how this relates to the recent security "bug"
no relation at all
apparently there was an exploit in gzdoom's zscript that allowed people to execute commands on the harddrive
definitely dangerous, but not unless you install one of those bundled-with-mods packs like colonel sanders does

>>4676631
Is NeoDoom popular for multiplayer or something? I'm just playing it for the first time.

>>4677340
On 3.0 to 3.2.2 or some shit like that, any mod could gain arbitrary access to the console, which is really, really fucking bad.

The biggest concern to them was you could use it to overwrite any file on your hard disk with one of GZDoom's log files. It'd have been easy to sneak a System32 killer in an otherwise fine looking mod.

There's monumental fuckups and then there's having that in there, which only became known while Graf was having a hissy fit over Lilith.pk3 and threatening to quit, again.

>>4677326
GZDoom Builder Bugfix fork has support for that now.

>>4677363
>The biggest concern to them was you could use it to overwrite any file on your hard disk with one of GZDoom's log files. It'd have been easy to sneak a System32 killer in an otherwise fine looking mod.
Why is a sourceport able to write to files outside its local directory in the first place? That seems like a really stupid thing to have.

>>4676235
Most of this map involves running around a residential area and killing demons while they're watching tv, standing behind counters, using the bathroom, taking lectures, playing soccer, cooking in the kitchen, sleeping in beds or sitting on comfy couches.
Am I the demons?

>>4677354
I dunno.
I just like NeoDoom a lot. One of the only decent megawads that has custom ZDoom monsters, weapons, levels, and awesome music.

It's actually supposed to work for multiple Doom ports, like Doom Legacy, (ha...Haha...AHHAHAHAHAHAHA) and Doomsday Engine.

There's controversy over how hard a certain enemy is though, and the naughty pics that are inside a select few levels. (Surprise surprise! Porn on the internet!) But don't let that drag you away from the gameplay and awesome weapons.

>>4677423
unf

>>4676403
Call of Duty

>>4677423
I see you've survived all my minions and clones.

>>4677409
>There's controversy over how hard a certain enemy is though
I'm playing the gold edition which apparently nerfed their health or something like that. Haven't seen one yet though.

I don't know how many of you know about this website, or are into /tg/ related things, or are even into collecting doom merch, especially unofficial stuff, but Klukva Miniatures are releasing a resin figure of the Doom2016 character that will ship in late April.
Around a year or so ago, they released the classic doomguy in his famous pose, holding a shotgun and your choice of the pistol or a middle finger. Considering this board and this thread, I assume this would be the more popular version. I don't know if they still sell it, but considering the company's relatively obscure status, they probably have some in stock.
Klukva is a Russian miniature company that makes fantastic figurines of popular game and manga characters and calls them unassuming names to avoid legal issues.

>>4677010
do not lewd the doggos pls

>>4677459
Here is the original and the link.
http://klukvaminiatures.com/goods#w--ul-id-175-4/Hell-Crusader/p/100365383/category=0--w

>>4677462
There's a reason God named it "doggy-style".

>>4677340
is she his post op alter ego or sth?

what is the purpose of qdoom, also?

>>4677476

>is she his post op alter ego or sth?
While that would be hilarious to have a Jekyll & Hyde scenario, no, they're two separate people.

>what is the purpose of qdoom, also?
Experimental branch for feature testing, supposedly.

Which of these doomguys would win in a fight?

>>4677243
>>4677264
They're good demons guarding the Spear of Destiny for the moment a worthy soul comes to claim it, they wouldn't be interested in aiding the Icon of Sin's cronies.

>>4677505
Doom 4 guy due to powercreep, probably.

FDA + Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3NED9WWIRk

This map is a series of giant rooms connected by giant corridors filled with seemingly dozens of Realm667 enemies. There is no cohesion to any of it as textures are used seemingly at random. The level geometry seemed to be just as random. There's random platforms with nothing on them or rooms with no purpose.

There is some charm to the map, though. This comes from the fact that it's not broken and it's not overly confusing. So while it's not what I would call a great or even a good map there is some fun to be had if you go in with the right mindset and the right mood.

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hRVwwrGnq9dRsOjLUoWrAfqe2YhDg0ww/view