/vr/ - Retro Games

>>466393
>How long until that becomes a new indy trend?

Probably never because no one likes those graphics outside of a few people.

I kind of hope so. I'd really like a revival of Final Fantasy VII-IX style RPGs. Maybe indie could be the vessel for my dreams.

>>466437
Odd, I was going to say I see a lot of Indie developers go for the 8-bit to early '3D' graphics as a nostalgia pull

32bit/64bit era wasnt that good from the aging perspective, there are few exceptions with some good art direction, but in general the graphics were not so good and most of the time it felt clunky.

32/64 bits 3D Games that aged well
Virtua Fighter 2
Tekken 3
Final Fantasy IX
Boku no Natsuyasumi
Twilight Syndrome (there is only one in 3D, cant remember the title)
Mario 64

I love the environments in the jumping flash games. the scenery is so simple and yet beautiful.

>>466453
Nah, because most indie developers are from the early 90s, it'll take awhile for them to die. In about 50+ years you'll start seeing 3D retro indie games.

>How long until that becomes a new indy trend?
uh...

I really like old 3D stuff

Some of it looks bad, some of it looks amazing

>>466467
I agree. I also really enjoy the visuals of low poly count games like Silpheed and Starblade and their use of solid colours. Also Bubsy 3D to a lesser extent. Yes, the controls are horrible, but the blocky solid-coloured levels give me a raging boner

I miss those fixed camera angles, great for atmosphere and tension. Also didn't make me spend 80% of my playing time fighting the fucking camera.

>>466504
Except for when the games didn't use fixed camera angles, and you had to use L2/R2 for the camera, which would ALWAYS fuck up on you, and get stuck behind a pole or some shit.

>>466463
From the aging perspective, you're a faggot.
>games dat agid wel = gaems i lik

Game "aging" is for pussies, this thread is about GRAFIX OF OLD, not your shitty casual thing on views.

Yes, I'm mad. See pic. If you don't like what you see, this isn't your thread.

>>466467
Fucking love that game.

>>466562
*casual VIEW on THINGS

>>466453

I see very few indie games that do this.

Pixelated graphics =/= retro
2D =/= retro

Very few games market themselves as such.

>>466562

This is a stupid post, also filled with buzzwords. Some things DON'T age well.

Super Mario World still looks good. Super Mario 64 does not. And I prefer SM64.

>>466584
>Some things DON'T age well.
In your opinion.
>Super Mario World still looks good.
In your opinion.
>Super Mario 64 does not.
In your opinion.

Besides, if you don't like SM64 graphics, THEN what the FUCK are you doing in this thread? Clearly you're not very fond of old 3D, which is exactly the opposite of the point of this thread, which is to APPRECIATE that old 3D.

>>466657

Have you ever tried not being a raging faggot.

I hope you aren't the OP, because if you are, no one is going to bother discussing anything with you if you're going to be such a fuckhead.

>Besides, if you don't like SM64 graphics, THEN what the FUCK are you doing in this thread?

Because I can? Because this is a discussion board? Because I can present my point civilly even if I disagree?

>>466467
>jumping flash games
what flash games?

>>466682

Jumping Flash, the PSX game. That post made me do a double take, too.

>>466685
oh, sorry
thanks

>>466670
You're the one who started a discussion no one asked for, dipshit.

>>466495
But Minecraft triggered the aimless open world survival game trend. Block polys need their own moment in the limelight, they were all the rage back with arcade games. We need a second arcade revolution, in fact I'm actually planning to pitch an arcade chain for a business loan in the near future, the aim being to focus more on the atmosphere to hook customers and sell memberships rather than the old broken coin operated format.

>>466714

I didn't make this thread.

so qt

>>466393
>How long until that becomes a new indy trend?
Already becoming it. Have you missed the goddamn fucking Minecraft?

>>466773
I mean you're the one who started a shitty unrelated discussion on "game aging".

>How long until that becomes a new indy trend

But that requires time and effort.

>>466393
>How long until that becomes a new indy trend?

Minecraft. Basically right now the whole "voxel graphics" movement or whatever.

>>466793

That's another negative, chief. I'm not >>466463

>>466798
Since when do indie games require time and effort?

>>466437
>Low poly
>indie
People who make indie games seem not to understand terms like "hi-poly" and "low-poly". They don't probably understand that polycount has an impact on performance.
Pic related, an actual model from the game "SCP: Containment Breach".

>>466821

Since always. If they don't require effort, try making one yourself.

>>466821
>Since when do indie games require time and effort?
You must be this retarded to ride the rollercoaster.

>>466825

>Blender

I can understand that. When "decimating" a model in Blender, its UVs get destroyed and you have to unwrap it all over again. Sometimes it really isn't worth the hassle.

all these years and i still haven't played a game that looks anything like it

My oldest, possibly the first, vidya waifu.

>>466887
wat
What are you talking about? Importing anything to Blender doesn't change the polycount.

I don't know if I miss low poly stuff that much but I certainly love the looks of some old games with flat environments and big ass textures.

Srsly tough guys, am I a special snowflake here for really enjoying these?

Surely, there must be a few folks out there with the same taste.

>>467039
Certainly I don't miss these as "the standard", there's always room for improvement, and I'm still not satisfied that I can't play nice games on Super Hi-Vision @600 FPS with 32x Anti-Aliasing.

But I always feel like playing something that looks and plays rough and clunky.

I have a special spot in my heart for a bunch of PS1 classics but the horrible early 3D hasn't aged well, it looked horrible then and it looks horrible now. The SNES era sprites are still cute and have aged well.

I like the old muddy graphics from games like Shadowgate 64 or Gothic.

The wobbly 3d graphics from the playstation always felt weird.
Turn your character and it looks like they just got their jaw and nose broken.
Especially in FF8, RE2 and Dino Crisis.
It's not like I don't like 'em though.

Aww yiss, OP, i really enjoy the grainy PS1 grafx. More than most PS2 graphics, actually, and certainly more than the smudged N64 messes. opinions

There's just something inherently charming to the huge pixels in the textures.

>>466918
>MDK
Holy shit I totaly forgot about this game.
Thank you anon.

>>466981

Not importing. If the creators of that SCP game used Blender to make models, then they might not have wanted to unwrap the UVs a second time, and possibly redoing SCP's texture, just to shave a couple thousand triangles. I don't know about other 3D modelling programs, but they might require the same thing.

>>467216
That's beautiful and spooky.

yes please

of there is always...

>>467406
Nice. Reminds me of MoH, played it first time last year, awesome game. Better than the abortion that was the 2010 reboot or Warfighter.

That's Alien Ressurection right? Played it once many years ago. Should do it again.

In fact, I really feel like playing some PS1 FPS right now.

>>467415
Not retro

>>467384
damn, the movie was so bizarre.

>games with pre rendered backgrounds

>>467395
>posting saturn version

>>467521
>>467526
What game is this?

>>466780
>>466807
Minecraft is a perfect example of fake retro though. Games have NEVER looked like Minecraft.

>>466825
Glob that's ridiculous. There is no reason to have that much detail in a horror game where it's dark and you can't see much anyway.

>>467532
Is this from a game?

>>467559
Gun Godz.
Sort of a casual version of FEAR on Amiga.

especially Silent Hill. so simple, so perfect, just the right amount of graininess and polygons. I very much prefer PS1 over any other console, the graphics play a big part in that

>>467635

what game is this?

>>467471

you should apply for a janitor job then

>>467718
reminded me of

>>467708
And you should stop posting shit that isn't retro.

>>467670
Reserve 12 for the pc98.

>>467558
what is this? It looks familiar

>>467773


no Fm Towns version?

>>467782
Not him but the game is megabyte punch, an indie game made recently. It looks fun.

>>467559
It's not even detail, it's redundancy.

>>467790
Not that I know of, it's an h game after all.

oh and its Reserve 1/2

>>467825


FM Towns has literally at least a hundred eroges.
so I thought there might be a version for this game too

>>467843
I had no clue I'm still new to jap pc emulation.

The folks tokugawa forums would probably know.

>>467621
>>467635
>>467609
You illiterate, bro?

There's a bunch of games coming out with a nice low-poly aesthetic.

I hated how surfaces on the PS1 would shift and zigzag instead of stay straight like the stones on the floor of this picture. I still loved the games thought.

>>467981

I'm not sure but I think it's because the PS1 could only draw textures in a few angles. It's not bad when the model is far away since the PS1 had a shit resolution but from up close(RE cutscenes), shit gets fuzzy.

I miss the fun times we had mocking the badly animated gestures of Resident Evil characters. Although at the same time there's still plenty to make fun of in games now.

>>466562
>>466584
>>466657
Why's /vr/ gotten so /v/-like lately?

>>468124

Was I the only one who loved the style of 2D characters in a 3D world à la Klonoa, Xenogears, GTA 1 and 2, etc.?

>>468124
>2D characters in a 3D world
My dick
Really though, 2D characters in 3D worlds are so fucking beautiful in my opinion. I really love how Ys and Recettear do it.

>>468065

Actually, It was because the ps1 didn't support floating point numbers, so everything had to be done with integer math which is just awful for 3d.

it's also the reason that every 3d object jittered around so much whenever they or the camera moved.

>>468160
It's cool as long as they're not locked to a 2D plane with all this neat yet completely noninteractive stuff around them.

>>468160
I find it doesn't look good at all. Especially if the sprites try to look pre-rendered, it just looks bleagh.

>>467758

I just don't see why those two screens (now deleted by somebody I guess?) aren't allowed when this is:

>>466495
>>466825
>>467379
>>467558
>>467621
>>467718

I mean, they both fit low-poly aesthetic we're discussing here (though I will concede that 3D Dot Heroes may not be completely related but even then there's a pic from a modern 2d game so what the fuck?)

>>467981
I love this game.
>dat map building mode on the japanese edition

>>467981
man the only thing wrong with the ps1 graphics was the draw distance

if ps1 games had full draw distance they would be perfect

It kills me that innovation largely died with the SNES/PS1 era. I think back then, games were much cheaper to create, just look at the credits after say Mega Man X or Metal Gear Solid vs the tons of credits after Assassin's Creed 3.

With games getting so expensive to produce, we get stuck with sequel, sequel, sequel, reboot, sequel and they're getting progressively worse and unimaginative.

I miss the old days of Colony Wars: Vengeance, then taking a break and playing Parasite Eve or Metal Gear Solid.