/vr/ - Retro Games

Give it a quick try and see if you like it. Would probably take less time than waiting for replies here.

It's good, yes.

It's overrated. And as a Fatal Fury game it's a total FAILURE. Not a bad game though.

>>4669784
Not contrarian witchhunting or anything but can you elaborate on either point? I've never played it and it was my understanding it was a solid and well respected entry

>>4670002
He's probably whining that they took away the whole jumping between two planes thing that nobody liked in the first place.

>>4670018
>that nobody liked in the first place.
?

>>4670018
>jumping between two planes thing that nobody liked in the first place.
You mean that whole thing that gave Fatal Fury its distinct flavor and kept it from feeling like a cheap SF clone?

>>4669417
It's good as a beginner's game if you're not much into fighters. Small roster and simple inputs make it a fairly easy to learn game. It's not great overall, but a good place to start.

>>4670145
It's not only that, a lot of the game's nuances are also different from SF, but yeah the plane-switch is the big trademark of FF and honestly I love it, it adds an extra depth to the formula. And it comes in handy to avoid special attacks that do damage even if you block.

Garou MOTW is good, but yeah it's the least Fatal Fury-like.
If you want to get the real FF experience, go with FF Special or Real Bout Special.
I think Garou is mostly venerated as a masterpiece because of the smooth sprite animation, and admittedly it's a good game, but it doesn't have the charm of the earlier FF games.

>>4670149
Yeah... Garou really feels like it's an SNK game trying to be a Capcom game so it will gain popularity. It didn't work.

Had a lot of good memories playing MOTW with some gameFAQS friends on MAME back in the day. I know the SNK diehards have spoken, the game isn't very much in faith with any of its predecessors whatsoever. I personally love the backgrounds and music, the colourful tight cast and the JD system.

Glad they moved the worthwhile characters along into KOF and other franchises. But outside of Gato and Kevin I think its not too unbalanced and fun to play with friends on its own merits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vtflj0rEU0&list=PLAbyECE-xLP91tW_Qs_E-5txe7Qhrr0zH&index=8

>>4670173
>Glad they moved the worthwhile characters
It's criminal that the Judo Geriatric isn't on any other game though.
He guess he retired to enjoy his life.

It's a fun game but it is a departure from FF. It really feels out of place.
There is still people who play it on fightcade, dunno about the rerelease.
Also be warned the balance is like 3S in there is a handful of super good characters that are clearly above the rest of the cast, even in mid level play, if you are gonna play a bad character know what you are getting yourself into.

>>4669417

>be Garou
>well animated
>great fighting engine
>shit characters
>shit stages
>shit backgrounds

It's like eating a cake shaped like a turd, you can't help but get sick.

>>4670494
>shit characters
>shit stages
>shit backgrounds
I disagree.

>>4670184
Every fighting game should have a "fuck-old man who's also a martial arts master" character. It should be mandatory.

>>4670510
Not him but I like that you only disagreed with the things that don't really matter.

>>4670494

No. Try fatal fury special instead.

>>4670549
Yeah, nobody cares about what games look like or if the characters have interesting personalities or backstories. It's all about the raw gameplay, it's totally fine if the characters are stick figures, I'm sure that wouldn't impact sales at all.

>>4670569
You seem to think you're exaggerating, but that IS pretty much the official posture of tons of fighting game nerds in full-on gatekeeping mode

Best fatal fury games
1 real bout fatal fury
2 real bout special
3 fatal fury special

I know people will crucify me for putting real bout at the top but I personally think it's the most fun the 3 planes allows for some crazy ass combos where you're flying in and out of the screen.


Andy best character and I usually hate little brother characters lol

>>4670549

That's a fat load of stupid

It's the best SNK fighter, basically if Capcom had 3rd Strike, SNK had this.

Both the epitome of each company.

>>4669784
Holy fuck what a contrarian

>You will never fight in the naked place

It's good and pretty beginner-friendly. It's a pretty bad introduction to SNK fighters and Fatal Fury though. It's basically a Capcom-styled SNK game.
If you want true Fatal Fury, try Special or Real Bout 2 instead.

>>4670173
No group of friends is ever going to get good enough to where either character is going to be a problem. I mean jesus fuck my friends and I played this game for like damn near 7 years straight almost daily and only the more naturally fighter-talented among us got really decent with any given character. God damn though dude could make Tizoc fucking fun to watch

No. The moment you get serious with it, people pull out pocket Kevins because they can't handle losing in a 20 year old game. The game is fundamentally broken, and it is maddening because I love the series dearly. They could have made the game great with very small amount of tweaks, but that's just the familiar story with SNK games that aren't King of Fighters, isn't it?

This is like the first time I've seen people shitting on Garou

>>4670918
It's not really about shitting on Garou but rather recognizing the greatness of the Fatal Fury series as a whole. Garou was a nice game, but kinda weird and simplistic.

>>4670918
People don't shit on MotW though. It's a really fun game with a lot of qualities.
It's just not as beloved by SNK fans as it is by casuals.

>>4670768
That just says you played a lot and never learned much. It could be the same with any game.

>>4670873
>The game is fundamentally broken

The only broken things in it is the bug that allows you to dodge Tizocs throws. And maybe air juggles being possible on Jenet, but that's a minor thing.

Kevin isn't any worse than any other character in the game.

>>4670569
>>4670581
Tastes vary of course, so like what you like. But to me something with great aesthetics but boring or badly done game design is ultimately a bad game. Where as a game with even very simple graphics but entertaining and well done game design is good. Not just in fighters, in any genre.

>>4670963
Not gonna lie, when I started playing it on the DC I was beyond dogshit, as fucking around on KoF games in MAME is what got me to even pay attention to the genre in the first place. Still, you're never going to see someone pull out a pro level Kevin outside of Fightcade.

>>4671375

And something with good mechanics will quickly grow tiresome if there's no decent presentation. You need both. A game can't thrive on just one aspect alone.

>>4669417
Excellent gameplay, mixed quality roster.

It's fun as fuck and the graphics, music and animation are perfect. I always play with friends when they come over, not into competitive though.

It’s definitely a bit easier to get into than third strike, since there’s more screen space and just defend is easier than parry

Roster is also way better. No stinkers except freeman, who wasn’t that terrible.

Third strike has 3 extra ryu headswaps for fucks sake. Urien and gill, and yang and yun are headswaped too.

>>4670494
Stages/backgrounds are FANTASTIC and the very first thing that got me interested in the game.

Roster is a mix of cool characters and boring characters.

>>4671652
I love how SNK could have made the Kim bros in Garou headswaps but gave them unique sprites and movesets instead of taking the easy way out like Capcom

>>4671501
Maybe for you. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

>>4671115
>Kevin isn't any worse than any other character in the game.
yeah no. That dude can get a full bar in 3 seconds. Got any other character that can do TOD anywhere on screen without a counter hit? No? Shut the fuck up with your fanboyism, you're not helping.
There is a reason why FFS and RB2 still got a scene going, and not MOW.

>>4669417
Probably the best 2D fighter of all time, 2bh

>>4673182
>There is a reason why FFS and RB2 still got a scene going, and not MOW.

no one plays FFS seriously. It got a shit load of ports but it's rather clunky. no one plays it on fightcade

RBFF2 was faster than RBS but didn't add much new besides faster speed and a single plane mode (thank fuck). Most of the personality was also stripped out

>>4670414
Garou's balance is not nearly as drastic as 3S, though Gato is pretty annoying to fight

Garou has characters that are better, 3S has characters that just outright suck (Sean, Twelve). The 3S roster is also full of headswaps and ugly designs

>>4673459
>no one plays it on fightcade
Japanese players take it seriously.

>>4673459
>no one plays FFS seriously.
What the fuck am I reading.
>fightcade
Oh, I see. You're a dumbass.

>>4671480
>Still, you're never going to see someone pull out a pro level Kevin outside of Fightcade.

Is this a joke?