/vr/ - Retro Games

You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>>4637241
Virtual pinball cabinets are a complete and utter waste. VR pinball with just a front end of a pinball machine for a control is infinitely better.

I just got a Hobbit Black Arrow Edition delivered today. It's my first pin, and I've been having a blast with it.

>>4637248
Remember that guy who was pushing the VR arcade thing on here and shitting on people with actual arcade hardware?

Good times.

Advertising is against the rules.

Is the Addams Family truly one of the best tables? I find it quite easy and kind of plain, personally.

Are people confusing ease of play with it being the best?

It's kind of strange that Nintendo and other Japanese companies have made so many pinball games, given that there's little in the way of actual pinball in Japan. Hopefully actual pinball will catch on there.

>>4637340
It's super popular and enormously high selling.

I like it, It's not one of my all-time favorites, or even my favorite Pat Lawlor game (Whirlwind), but every time I go back and play it, I'm surprised by how much fun I have with it. It certainly is a solid game.

>>4637325
No. I don't. But if you play pinball specifically you know why VR Pinball is leagues better than just a long screen. Especially if you do yes build a pinball controller. This isn't a real pinball machine which is obviously the best way to play pinball but virtual pinball is pretty pointless in comparison to VR pinball.

>>4637340
I've never been a fan of either Addams or Twilight Zone. I prefer tables that are more streamlined with less stop-and-go gameplay.

>>4637241
>Future Pinball
>Pinball FX

Just toss the whole thing into a dumpster if that's all you're going to put on it.

>mfw a bunch of old Gottliebs in VPX format were uploaded to VPForums today

>>4637241
>proving OP is always a faggot

>>4637340
>>4637574
I really liked this one I used to play in the 90s. I think it was an American machine (IINM, the majority of pinball is American). It had a marionette head on it with moving eyes and mouth. It talked. I think it insulted you for playing poorly or something but I'm not sure as I didn't speak English well enough yet back then to have clear memories of what the machine actually said. Just makes more sense for it to taunt players than encourage them, I would guess.

>>4637726
>Marionette
I meant ventriloquist's dummy, sorry.

>>4637726
That's Funhouse. Also, there were a small handful of non-American manufacturers, the most well-known probably being Italy's Zaccaria.

>>4637353
There is a large pinball museum in Japan, as well as several small pinball-centric game centers, and pinball in other general "retro" game centers. There seems to be a reasonable amount of serious Japanese players, and Sega actually did produce EM games for Japan during the 70s, which can still be found at the aforementioned retro game centers.

>>4637761
Forgot the image because I'm a big sausage.

>>4637761
I know Zaccaria all too well being that I'm from Italy.

>>4637763
And yeah, that's the guy. My family owned a bar back then with several arcade machines in it but not Funhouse. My mother couldn't understand why I'd want to go down the street to waste money on different machines when we had a dozen of our own to play. Well, we didn't have Funhouse, Legend of Kage or Liquid Kids and I fucking loved those. We'd get a couple thousand lire and my brother and I would play for an hour or so (200 lire in the early 90s was 1 play for most games) then get ice creams.
Nostalgia is a helluva drug.

In my copy of Pinball Arcade, in Twilight Zone, the ball oscillates into the shooter lane and then out to the open auto-plunger zone. If you don't time the plunge right it just hits the post separating the two lanes, and the skill shot can't be hit consistently. Really bizarre glitch, can't understand why the table doesn't reset or something. Maybe next time I restart the game it'll be gone.

Which table should I get good at?
Medieval Madness
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Gorgar

>>4637763
Now who's the dummy?

>>4637340
nope it's overrated as fuck, basically it was released as part of the promo drive with the film which saw cinemas etc buying them in for the foyer and this was why it had high numbers and became popular due to familiarity, you were simply more likely to see one than any other machine.

>>4638273
Get good on a real machine. I spent a long time playing TPA and none of the experience I got from it helped me(except maybe table rules).

>>4638534
Table rules counts for a lot, the scoring strategies are complex.

>>4638534
play pro pinball or vpx, i learnt to be a very competent player on real machines at weekends because of them, you can learn nigh on every flipper trick on the pro pinball games.

>>4637307
Just got my first pin today. Of course I plug in the connectors wrong putting the head back on and blow a fuse. No playfield lamps for me until the replacements go through the mail.

>>4639442
Excellent choice, Paragon is a fantastic game with gorgeous art.

I've had this idea in my head for a rocking-chair style of Pinball machine for the longest time. Has it ever been done before? What do you think of it? You can do some sick tilting moves with this type of machine.

Excuse the poorly modeled illustration of my idea. It's just to help you understand what I had in mind.

>>4639550
Looks like a top heavy disaster in the waiting. Could be profitable if you're dedicated to charging for repairs.

>>4639573
It would be up to the engineers to refine my idea to make it impossible to tip over, but I think rocking pinball machines are the future of pinball.

Why is this game so good? And from 1979, even.

>>4639550
There was a machine with a curved playfield that had a moon crater theme to it, called Orbitor 1. Probably a better idea than whatever wacky tilt machine you've got there.

>>4639596
Pinball has a future?

>>4639550
>>4639596
Wouldn't be hard. Just put two bars that you bolt into the ground on the side, and have a bar connecting them go through the top of the machine with some wiggle room.

What advantage would there even be to such a table, though?

>>4639689

>>4639693
you'd get more control over the ball

>>4639749
Did it ever occur to you letting the player tilt the table however they want would be kind of stupid?

>>4637784

Legend of Kage is the shit! One of my favorites too.

>>4639758
Why should he git good if he can cheat?

>>4639675
THICC

>>4639675

IMO very late 70's into the mid 80's is the best era of pinball.

>>4639774
There's a good VPX version of it.

>>4639758
it adds a whole new dynamic to the game!
>>4639767
it isn't cheating, it makes the game better!

https://www.youtube.com/user/tntamusements/videos

So many good pinball videos on this channel.

>>4639932
Working there is my friggen dream job. Todd seems like such a chill boss.

>>4637241
Bump for Pro Pinball, which will never get another table ever.

>>4639675
It's very good. I'm not a fan of the audio, I usually mute it when I play Pinball Arcade.

>>4641775
I dunno, I thought the sounds were pretty charming myself.

This is by far Taito de Brazil's best knock-off table.

>>4641819
Better than Paragon at least

>>4641206
We can all dream, anon. We can all dream.

>>4643218
The absolute worst classic pinball sounds for me is Star Wars Empire Strikes Back. Holy fuck it's just ear-rape. Sounds like fire trucks and sirens for days. I had to download a mod that adds sound effects and voices from the movie just to play it.

Why do Americans always dress like shit?

Twilight Zone. The Shadow. WWE. Uh... Indiana Jones doesn't count... Champions Pub!

These are the great flipperless upper playfields. I might be forgetting one or two. Which do you like most, in theory or in execution? Do you have any ideas for more?

>>4644058
I like Bride of Pinbot's where you can nudge and win a skillshot.

>>4641206
unfortunately actual pinball players are a minority and the normies just see it as to expensive for a single table who don't appreciate the physics because they can't even play properly so shitty pin arcade will dominate for the time being.

>>4639850
You'd need to make the table extra hard to compensate.

>>4644183
You're not kidding. It pretty much bombed on Steam. http://steamcharts.com/app/287900

Has a pinball machine ever had a full artwork makeover? As in different artwork from the original.

>>4644939
There's several where the playfield layout was reused, or flat out copied (Literally every Taito de Brazil table)

>>4644939
Plenty.

>>4644958
Stern is cancer

>>4644958
We need a third re-skin with a theme that isn't cancer.

>>4644939
Gottlieb made dozens of El Dorado reskins

>>4639932
>>4639975
They're like 45 mins away from my house.

SE PA has loads of Pinball. Pinball Gallery in Malvern is my jam (and like 5 mins away).

>>4644958
You got one for Batman and Batman 66?

>>4644949
>>4644958
>>4645050
Well that's interested.
I was more wondering if somebody had done it themselves.

>>4645301
Virtual? There's plenty of re-skins out there.

This is the only instance I can think of where someone converted a physical table.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-matrix-pinball-machine-pinnovating

They turned a Johnny Mnemonic into a custom Matrix themed table.

I don't know shit about pinball but think it's cool

Tell me some cool stuff I don't know about pinball and pinball tables please

>>4639802
Just get it on Pinball Arcade

>>4645898
The Family Guy pinball machine had a miniature playable pinball machine inside of it, with a ball bearing for a ball, tiny flippers, and little bumpers. Play some pinball!

>>4644939
This is just a reskin of Spiderman: Home Eiditon

>>4645923
that's too cool

>>4645926
Why is this so appealing to me

guys I want to buy something pinball related.
What should I get? A pinball? A small pinball machine?

>>4645898
There's many more examples of great pinball innovation, I could go on for hours.

The Shadow Pinball table has a mini-playfield that functions like a physical version of Breakout (also known as Arkanoid).
https://youtu.be/Hd283tFgkvE?t=2m33s

>>4645935
This is so cool.

It's like a physical video game.

What other things besides pinball are like physical videogames?

>>4639680
This interests me.

Imagine a.. field? What do you call the part the pinball rolls on?

Anyway imagine a field of play with "planets" and the gravity is simulated by curving the field down toward the planets. The curves of course overlap because you're constantly under the effect of all gravity in space.
And the black hole is an actual hole that ends up being vertical slope to simulate the event horizon, because no matter how fast your ball gets it isn't getting out of there.

And you would make it a vacuum in there to have as little friction as possible. Of course, infinite orbit would be impossible, but still.

>>4645932
A pinball machine is a lot of work. A modern one used costs $2000 dollars at least (I think? $2500? Someone fill me in), and even if you buy it used in pristine condition it will need to be repaired before too long. That's my understanding at least, I don't own one. Maybe you don't mind doing repairs every now and then.

>>4645937
Pitching Bat games. Other mechanical games that people don't make anymore. Foosball. Table hockey. Physical boardgames like Klask. Beyblades and things like beyblades.

>>4645947
>>4645947
It sounds like the ball would roll towards the planet and then stop.

>>4646001
New pins are closer to 5k.Much to rich for my blood.

>>4645932
A small pinball machine is a toy.

>>4646014
More like 6k. But I was talking about used.

>>4646020
Depends on the game and condition and location. A used Stern Star Trek from 2012 goes for about $4500-$5000. I just payed $1500 for >>4639442 and that's from 79. Granted it's a popular game with an good but not great backglass and playfield and fulling working. If you want anything from the DMD era and up you're lucky to find a good game for less than 3 grand now. For some reason prices have gone up some the past year. I guess Trump's economy has made demand for luxury items rise.

>>4646075
Prices have gone up over the last 10 years, period. It's called pinflation. I bought a Whirlwind back in 2010 for $1600. Someone offered me $2300 for it in 2015, though I didn't sell it. I haven't checked lately, but I could probably get closer to 3k for it today.

Pinball has gained unexpected popularity over the past decade. As a result, the collector market has gone through the roof.

>>4645923
The Stewie Multiball is a lot of fun. I like when a multiball has you multi-tasking with a game's mini-playfield.

Just played Transformers for close to the first time. I get it. I get why shaker motors are great.

>>4645947
It sounds like you'd be better off trying to build this simulation in a virtual pinball machine.

Found some arcades downtown this afternoon, and they had 2 pinball tables -- a Startrek new generation one and a Street fighter II one.
I really liked the street fighter one, even though I was pretty bad at it.

>>4646945
SF II is considered to be a pretty crap table. ST:TNG is considered to be pretty guud though.

>>4646957
Well I liked the SF one more. Then again it might be one of the only times I've ever played on an actual pinball table.

>>4646964
You mean this one?

>>4646957
A good table for new players and a good table for old players can be a very different thing. Casuals prefer Data East Simpsons to Simpsons Pinball Party, I've heard.

>>4647509
I've only tried SF II in VPX (after I removed the stupid sprites the guy who made it decided to throw all over the place for no reason). It was ok, nothing to write home about. Think it'd get boring quickly, so not a lot of people want to own the actual table.

>>4647402
Yes this one exactly.

>>4646531
If you think that's great just wait until you try Total Nuclear Annihilation with the shaker

>Try Pinball FX for the first time
>Most tables are trash
>Especially the DLC licensed ones
>Physics are pants on head retarded

Why did anyone ever like this shit? I feel like I wasted my time just downloading it.

>>4648939
It was pretty much the only modern pinball game when it launched back in 07.

>>4648361
>mfw destroy a reactor

>>4648956
At least the Bethesda tables are pretty good. But yeah there's like 200 Star Wars tables and they're all junk.

>>4648972
It pretty much only gained a following because it was the only option for a while. I stopped keeping up years ago.

Is Pinball Arcade worth playing?

I'm mainly interested in The Getaway table

>>4649026
>Pinball Arcade
Nah, the physics suck.

>>4649026
Depends on how much the physics bother you. I personally can't enjoy it.
So frustrating physics in it... Somewhat close but still way too off.
But doesn't cost a dime to try it out for yourself.

>>4649026
As far as getting to play tables you might never get a chance to IRL yes

>>4648972
I like the Clone Wars one even if it's just a reskined Gladiators.

>>4649736
Yeah I dunno I really wish someone would try putting some of these tables in VPX with some actual decent physics. A lot of the tables are just "ok" but the poor physics lowers it down a lot.

>>4639850
You are aware that theres a tilt bob in the machine for a reason right? A skilled player can do whatever he wants on a table without one. and thats without making it piss easy with your rocking playfield.

>>4649803
Typical millennials and their autosave culture.

Stuff you used to see in Pinball machines but don't anymore:
Zipper Flippers

I have a very specific question. What games have orbits that lead to opposing flippers on each side? Like F-14 Tomcat and Stern's Seawitch.

>>4649991
Last seen in 1981, in Medusa.

Stuff you used to see in Pinball machines but don't anymore:
Scissor Flippers

I think these were last seen in 1997, in Starship Troopers by Sega.

Stuff you used to see in Pinball machines but don't anymore:
Star Rollovers.

Anyone with a real table modded it? Added toys, installed a colordmd, upgraded your speakers, changed the OST with PinSound, alternate backglass, running custom code, anything like that?

Stuff you used to see in Pinball machines but don't anymore, but now you do again:
Crossover Return Lanes
Went missing after Harley Davidson (1991), until Full Throttle and PotC (2018) brought it back.

>>4650142
These need to make a comeback.

>>4650142
Walking Dead has some.

>>4650210
Considering going full LED with >>4639442, already ordered soft whites and new pop bumper caps because of browning.

>>4650219
Full Throttle and PotC also have spinning discs.

pinball is so gay lmao

>>4650357
Well waddya know. Thanks for the tip.

>>4650384
You're retarded.

>>4651217
>answering to baitless hooks
Then again being a namefag explains a lot.

Has anyone tried this out? Worth the early access bux?

>>4637353
>Hopefully actual pinball will catch on there.

ya I'm sure the new wave of pinball is just around the corner.

Would doing a mini style virtual pinball machine a good idea? It's just they are so much cheaper.

>>4651369
Cheaper, but not as entertaining as the real thing. Smaller tables would be less expensive, though.

>>4651458
I'm still deciding if I want to even go the virtual route. I had the chance to get the Judge Dredd pinball machine but someone else bought it before I got there.

>>4651479
Too bad, that's a good one.

>>4651569
It was local too so I wouldn't have had to ship it or anything.

>>4651671
Yours? I'm jealous, all I have access to is the Stern Pinball Arcade version.

>>4651671
Can't tell because of the reflection and only the upper playfield but I don't think I see the ghost hologram, Pro?

>>4651671
If that’s your machine I am super jealous. I almost bought one myself last year but it would have cleaned out my savings...

>>4651852
>Can't tell because of the reflection
The backglass is all you need to see to tell which edition it is.

How come when I google "virtual pinball" it's just ugly monitors with emulation but OP obviously has some weird 3D thing going on?

>>4651904
I wouldn't advise getting a pinball machine even if it only eliminates half or a quarter of your savings. 10% of your savings, is the figure I've heard.

>>4652056
add "cabinet" to end, and you should have better luck, friend

>>4652118
Actually no, I don't.
They are all just LCD screen TV's laying on a table.
How does this guys look 3D? Head tracking?

>>4652202
>Head tracking?
Yup. You can even see the IR LEDs he uses in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_inRg_5Un-c

They actually did it, the absolute madmen.

>>4644183
FUCKING NORMIES I HATE THEM SO MUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BURN THEM ALL DEATH TO NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4645042
Is it just me or do you guys always end up with a ball getting stuck while playing a Stern table as well? Swear to fucking god it happens at least once every two or three times I play one of their's at multiple places.

>>4644183
I'm still baffled how a bottom-of-the-barrel shovelware company like farsight managed to get its mitts on the licensing for all those pinball companies.

I like pinball arcade. It got me into seeking out real pinball games and helps me learn rules of different games.

>>4637241
you know where you are, son? this is /vr/. we want to see real machines from decades ago, not this modern garbage.

>>4644183
Yeah fucking normies subsidizing the industry so elitists like you can have niche tables without the fear of financial ruin, oh how they are a blight to all.

>>4653803
Except Pro Pinball Ultra flopped hard.

>>4653714
I wouldn't own my own game if not for Pinball Arcade.

Just got back from Arcade Expo, here's a look at the pinball available. Plenty of EMs from Bally, Williams and Gottlieb, and lots of awesome early Bally SS games, including all of the widebodies.

Plenty of System 11 and DCS favorites, and a few of the unpopular pre-merger late 80s Bally games. Blackwater 100 was working this year, and holy shit, what a great game. Super unique layout and the "starting gate" gimmick is awesome.

Two of those kickass Joust versus tables, and the infamous Magic Girl, sealed behind glass for our safety. Zaccaria games, the fragile Gottlieb System 1s (Haunted House was trying really hard to stay functional this year, I was able to play 2 games), and other late 80s Gottliebs. Also the classic four original theme Data East games, I haven't seen Time Machine since high school.

Finally, the new hotness. Jersey Jack's entire catalog was available, including the popular new Pirates. The MM and AFM remakes, and American Pinball's Houdini. Spooky's whole catalog, the fucking incredible TNA, plus a "family mode" Rob Zombie that loses about 80% of the speech. Of course, plenty of Stern, including a row of nine Star Wars.

>>4654107
>the infamous Magic Girl
What a travesty. Someone made a Future Pinball version and it's probably more fun than the real thing.

>>4654159
What exactly is bad about it? I've never played it, and really know nothing about it.

>>4654172
The shots are wonky. The playfield laminate was raised up on some tables. It's basically unfinished. Huge parts of the table do nothing, the code is also simiarly a mess. Features don't work properly, especially some involving magnets. It was a huge debacle.

>>4654180
Which table has the worst stigma:
Magic Girl or Popeye saves the Earth?

>>4654172
Read the whole sad story here https://www.popsci.com/curious-story-magic-girl-would-be-greatest-pinball-machine-all-time
>>4654185
Magic Girl for sure.

>>4654112
How are Jersey Jack's new tables? I'm interested in how the Hobbit plays especially compared to LOTR 2003.

>>4654180
Well, guess I wasn't missing much then.

>>4654185
I actually played Popeye for the first time at the show. I enjoyed it, perhaps after playing it for a while it the flaws would start to glare, but it was fun for the first try.

>>4654187
>Magic Girl for sure.

Damn. To have a worse rep than the game no one wanted to build or buy...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/rec.games.pinball/Brmc4Jdbn3s/-gE4nMsfJE4J
(Steve Ritchie's recollections of Williams making PSTE)

>>4654196
Better to be unwanted than a huge disappointment that ruined the rep of everyone involved. The end result is literally unfinished. At least Popeye is 100%, even if it's not a good table.

>>4654192
Hobbit is solid. I don't have much of a grasp on the rules beyond shooting the creatures that pop out, and a basic multiball from locking balls on the ramps, but it seems like a great game. The "moving" drop target is cool as well.

Dialed In is probably the JJ game I like the most so far. Again, my knowledge of the rules of these games is kindergarten-tier compared to the WMS games I've been playing for ages, but I'm beginning to grasp the basic modes of Dialed In, and it has the best layout of the JJ games.

I really don't know how I feel about Pirates yet. I played it twice at the show and made barely any progress both times. I feel that spending time with it would reveal a great game, the rules do seem very deep, but no place near me has it so I can't practice. The spinning disks can be quite a "fuck you", though.

TNA is still my favorite new game by a long shot. Rob Zombie is good as well, and I'm really fucking hyped for Nightmare Castle since I love Alice Cooper, and his theatrics fit pinball like a glove.

>>4654107
I like how they're all lined up for era/system. Pinburgh had that shit scattered all over the place and finding stuff you wanted to play was a pain at times.

>>4654093
EMs are fun, they don't get enough love.

>Get interested in pinball
>Visit some forums

Holy hell the pinball community has to be one of the most toxic, filled with complete jerk-off dickheads ever.

I'll never talk bad about another group of fans ever again.

>>4654431
Who are you really?

>>4654098
>Medusa

>>4654192
>>4637307 here, just got a crappy phone recording of a play session on TH from my wife. I was able to get to Into The Fire but I didn't even pass the first stage(out of 5). I enjoy the rules but the game gets a bad rep because sessions WILL be very long as a result of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6vNcsjcLAY

What is the pinnacle of table design and why is it a tie between Swords of Fury and Black Knight 2000?

>>4654720
But neither of those are Pat Lawlor designs

>>4654720
LIONMAN

>>4654731
HAHAHAHAHA.
Shoot for the tunnel!

>>4653417
Probably because licensing for ancient pinball machines costs pennies. That's why they had to kickstart anything with a recognizable license.

But thankfully, it looks like they're going to be massively slowing down their release schedule from here on out. And it couldn't have come any sooner. A great game like Banzai Run becomes a miserable experience when the ball fucking clips through the flipper half the time it's on the upper playfield. This shit's inexcusable.

>>4654769
>Probably because licensing for ancient pinball machines costs pennies

Then why aren't they cranking out remakes of Twilight Zone or Addams Family?

>>4654778
>That's why they had to kickstart anything with a recognizable license.

>>4654212
Sounds like good shit.

>>4654713
Looks interesting.

>>4654107
Did you play Raven? Is it as stupid as it's made out to be?

>>4645923
>Hey Lois. Remember when I was a pinball game inside a pinball game and also Wham was there? Ghostbusters, Skate or Die, Star Trek?

>>4655864
Needs a Rick & Morty reskin to complete the shit circle.

>>4655350
I did. It's extremely simple, but still pretty fun. I have very low standards, and while I can think of plenty of tables that aren't up to the level of the greats, I can't really think of a table I just didn't enjoy at all.

So TNA is now going to have Co-op and team vs. modes. How can other games even compete?

>>4657430
They can't, Jersey Jack is going to wipe the floor with Stern's shit, and they deserve it.

>>4657430
Fuck, I need to save my dosh and get one of my own in a year or 2.

>>4657673
If you have $1000 now you can order one now and have until Christmas when your game is ready

>>4658013
Not a chance right now. I'm the Hobbit anon and will likely have to wait a while before I can jump on the TNA train.

>>4658016
We need moar photos and videos.

>>4658020
I'll try

>>4658076
Desolation of Smaug game over?

>>4658081
It's a lighting effect added to the game over screen in the 2.0 update last year.

>>4657450
Total Nuclear Annihilation is a game by Spooky Pinball.

Speaking of Spooky, and this may amuse nobody but me, but wouldn't it be funny if they made a Silmarillion game? Y'know, cause Stern made LotR and JJ make Hobbit?

>>4658128
Well, I guess I was mistaken. But Stern still sucks.

>>4657450
Also, Jersey Jack's games are more expensive, making them less appealing to operators. Maybe you factored that into your calculation already, I don't know.

>>4658160
>Jersey Jack's games are more expensive, making them less appealing to operators
>making them less appealing to operators
>less appealing to operators
>operators

Remind me how much operators make up the pinball market nowadays? Isn't it like 30% vs 70% private collectors?

>>4658421
I think he's basing his assumption on that people who put games on route want to spend less on a game when in reality it's based on how much it could bring in. If I were to go down that road I'd much rather invest in a game based on location than price. Family friendly place I'd go cheaper and run a Star Wars pro, maybe Wizard of Oz or Dialed In. Bar with a younger crowd TNA or Dialed In or again Star Wars, never underestimate the power of a brand.

>>4653803
it's not my fault normies have a shit culture of ignorance who want instant gratification and choice over investment,achievement and depth. Propin is the greatest fucking release on steam and it flopped because most people are dumb as a cunt and have no fucking idea how to play and therefore don't appreciate anything other than getting choice of tables and aesthetics, get cunted feral shit.

>>4653203
Who said this? nice assumptions but what i said is provably true so fuck off.

>>4654769
>This shit's inexcusable.
The funny thing is every game they've ever made over the last 15 years or so is exactly the same, the programmer just never learns or improves anything it seems.

>>4658771
And they'll never give anything to the guys who did Pro Pinball Ultra, either. Too bad, so sad.

>>4637241
Fuck I want this just for F14 tomcat. My dad had it when I was kid and he donated it to some place in Vegas. By far my favorite pinball machine just because of how many hours I put into it as a kid.

>>4659487
F14 Tomcats are so common that you can buy a real one for less than a virtual one

lol pinball is still so gay
*mashes flippers*
ahahaha gay as HELL

>>4650384
>>4659539
Sure is mods in here.

>>4659989
did you actually report them or did you just want to post that?

Just broke a million for the first time!

>>4659532
I had no idea I'll have to go look around. Thanks man.

>>4660070
Nice. I just noticed the giant gold pile in the upper left corner. Really need to find some place that has this table, but I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere.

>>4660085
No problem. I want one myself. Shame I stretched my budget so far because I'm buying a TNA. Maybe once tax return time rolls around next year.

>>4660070
I think it's kind of interesting how JJP decided to lop off the extra 0 at the end of the score.

>>4660070
>Grand Champion is what would've been 4th place on something like Pinbot
Not an insult, congratulations on the score, and the JJ games are great, but got damn does that super low score do something to my autism.

>>4661096
I like that they tried to reign in score creep, but hey you can always pretend that there's an extra zero at the end of the score.
Have my Gladiators high score too bad the arcade had to retire it due to damage though

>>4637241
Are you okay, OP?

>>4661096
It does something to mine too.
In a positive way.

I can only speak for myself, but for me, scores should be as small as possible without losing useful information. "Needlessly" large scores alienate me from my accomplishment, much like how Marxists say that capitalism alienates workers from the fruits of their labor, or maybe it's more like communism, which actually does alienate workers from the fruits of their labor.

>>4662163
Speaking further on the subject, if the score is represented as a dollar value like in Safecracker, then it feels more meaningful and immediate to me.

To my knowledge, the three pinball machines which have speech balloons on the backbox art are Dragonette, Popeye Saves the Earth, and Spiderman Home Edition by Stern. There's probably more, right? Does anyone know any more? Thank you in advance.

The Q*Bert pinball machine doesn't have one, I checked.

>>4662194
Dr. Dude

>>4662208
Thank you, that's great.

>>4662232
The entire backglass is basically a comic

I assembled two images of the Before and After panel into one panel in MS Paint. It took me... two and a half minutes or so.

Speaking of which, does anyone have any estimate for how many Home Editions they made? A good amount, or only a few?

>>4662280
I wonder if Brian K Vaughan (the guy who wrote the comic this panel comes from) knows this pinball machine exists. Probably he does. I'd love to have a 90 second conversation about it with him.

>>4662163
TNA has a pretty interesting method of balancing out scoring by making the ones digit represent the number of reactors that player destroyed. It even applies to the new co-op mode.

I'm going to a pinball museum a few hours away to play pinball all day for $12. Might even see if there's a hotel and stay longer to maximize fun to hassle time.
I haven't played very much but I love pinball from my limited experience.
Which machines should I definitely spend some time on? Allowing, of course.

The Addams Family (Bally, 1992)
Avatar (LE) (Stern, 2010)
Black Hole (Gottlieb, 1981)
Black Knight (Williams, 1980)
Captain Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy (Bally, 1975)
Comet (Williams, 1985)
Corral (Gottlieb, 1961)
Doctor Who (Bally, 1992)
Dodge City (Gottlieb, 1965)
Drop-a-Card (Gottlieb, 1971)
Dungeons and Dragons (Bally, 1987)
Eight Ball Deluxe (Bally, 1980)
Fireball (Bally, 1971)
Firepower II (Williams, 1983)
Funhouse (Williams, 1990)
The Getaway: High Speed II (Williams, 1992)
Ghostbusters (Pro) (Stern, 2016)
Gorgar (Williams, 1979)
Grand Prix (Williams, 1976)
Harlem Globetrotters On Tour (Bally, 1978)
Haunted House (Gottlieb, 1982)
Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure (Williams, 1993)
Iron Man (Stern, 2010)
Jokerz (Williams, 1988)
Jungle Lord (Williams, 1981)
Junk Yard (Williams, 1996)
Kings & Queens (Gottlieb, 1965)
Kings of Steel (Bally, 1984)
Kiss (Bally, 1978)
Klondike (Williams, 1971)
Melody (Gottlieb, 1967)
Metallica (Pro) (Stern, 2013)
Mustang (Pro) (Stern, 2014)
Nip-It (Bally, 1972)
Nitro Ground Shaker (Bally, 1978)
Operation Thunder (Gottlieb, 1992)
Paragon (Bally, 1978)
Phoenix (Williams, 1978)
Playboy (Bally, 1978)
Ripley’s Believe It or Not! (Stern, 2003)
Rollergames (Williams, 1990)
The Six Million Dollar Man (Bally, 1978)
SlugFest (Williams, 1991)
Space Mission (Williams, 1976)
Star Race (Gottlieb, 1980)
Starship Troopers (Sega, 1997)
Street Fighter II (Gottlieb, 1993)
Target Alpha (Gottlieb, 1976)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Stern, 2003)
The Walking Dead (Pro) (Stern, 2014)
Wheel of Fortune (Stern, 2007)
Whirlwind (Williams, 1990)
The Wizard of Oz (Jersey Jack, 2013)
Wizard! (Bally, 1975)

>>4662236
>ywn be even a third of the man Dr. Dude is.

>>4662653
If it twas me, I'd gravitate towards the newer games.
2000 and onward. With that said, The Getaway: High Speed II is really great.
And the flashy games, like Funhouse and Fireball.

Apart from that, people really like Black Hole, Black Knight, Captain Fantastic, Eight Ball Deluxe, Indiana Jones: TPA, and I think "Wizard!"

>>4662194

>>4662881
I also like the awesome skeletons by the flippers.

>>4662881
>>4662883
The ultra rare playfield speech balloon! Two of them! Thank you for posting this, I have added it to my collection.

One guy whose birthday should be celebrated in the pinball community is Tim Kitzrow. I don't think his birthday is public knowledge, though. I'd say we could celebrate it on the anniversary of the NBA Jam release date, but arcade games don't have release dates.

>>4662770
>If it twas me, I'd gravitate towards the newer games.
yeah because you're a pleb.

>>4662653
crazy line up, the 70s and 80s line ups are stand out and you won't see themlikely elsewhere whilst sterns JUNK is more common. jokerz is a great easy to get into table, i used to rinse one locally.

>>4662194
The bizarre first entry in the Dennis Nordman Party tetralogy. I've never seen one in person, in fact Dr. Dude is the only one I have seen.

>>4663132
That is some wierd shit. Fucking furries.

>>4663132
wtf I want to fuck a cat now

The file name makes it seem like it's "De Simpsons", like a Jamaican person is saying it. It's actually short for Data East Simpsons.

In other news, after Kingpin (hey, I just realized something...), what other games could be made. Everyone says that the ruleset for Pinball Circus isn't deep enough. Does anyone have an opinion on if the playfield is set up so that a deeper ruleset could be made?

If not, are there any other games that were never mass produced that might receive the Kingpin treatment?

>>4664359
The thing I just realized is that Kingpin has the word Pin in it, like Pinball. I wonder if I've realized that and then forgotten it before, and how many times.

Here's the layout for the unproduced Python Anghelo game Zingy Bingy. A lot of people would dig the theme probably, but I think the layout might be too weird and too sparse for most people without some changes.

>>4658769
FUCKING NORMIES FUCK THEM ALL KILL ALL NORMIES AHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK NORMIE SCUM DIE YOU NORMIE! DIE DIE DIE! BURN IN HELL NORMIES! BURN I SAY! BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

>>4664368
Layout looks awful. There's a reason why Python almost never designed a game on his own. He always needed someone like Mark Ritchie to actually get his ideas into some sort of playable form.

>>4664368
It looks like someone ran them over with a steamroller like in a cartoon.

>>4664368
I was searching around google with this and found something even wierder.

https://boardgamebrewer.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/musket-ball-pinball-by-howie-tsui/

>>4637598
Is visual pinball worth it on a desktop at all?

>>4665542
>not bone-us

>>4665834
Visual Pinball X is pretty good. Has a lot of high quality tables and the physics are well done.

>>4665845
I don't think they were going for camp value, but that one's pretty good. Also,

>literal re-skin

>>4647402
God the backglass on this game is laughable but the playfield and overall gameplay is pretty fun. I love the car under the playfield

>>4651671
Seriously one of the funnest pins I've played in a long time, this is my favorite from Stern right now they did such a good job.

>>4665542
That is badass, what a cool idea for a pin, kind of creepy but I like the aesthetics

>>4665834
Yeah it's fun and there's some really good stuff for it. A bit of a bitch to set up though.

>>4666061
Not really, just use the installer https://sourceforge.net/projects/vpinball/files/latest/download

And here's some original tables to go with it (no ROMs required)

http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=13094
http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=13090
http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=12750
http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=12488

Remember the first volumes of Yu-gi-oh, where they were playing all sorts of mundane games? Wouldn't it be great if they played pinball in one of those games? I dream of a pinball manga, where they would compete in high-stakes tournaments on imaginary machines with impossible mechanics. Like a machine where... the playfield is underwater! And there's little merpeople swimming around in the playfield, and the bad guy is mean to them and hits them with the ball, but the protagonist finds a way to help the merpeople and they repay him by winning the game for him when all seems lost. Goofy shit like that. It might seem ridiculous, but there's actually a manga like that about those claw crane games. It's only on its first chapter though, or at least that's all that's been translated. Here it is:

https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/series/wangtangchang-the-yurutto-hunter/

Ways in which my taste is casual/plebian, irrespective of my skill or rules knowledge:
1. I like mini-playfields.
2. If given the option, I prefer to play modern games. (DMD era onward).
3. I get excited about theme.
4. I love gimmicks and only sometimes am I awed by more subtle aspects of design like shot layout.
5. I play Pinball FX 3 and Pinball Arcade.
6. I downloaded and installed VPX successfully but couldn't figure out how to make it work.

Anyone else have any pinball confessions?

>>4667216
Did Japan ever give a shit about pinball? Far as I can tell, no.

>>4667535
Its pretty much their national passtime. Google Pachinko

>>4667267
I like Future Pinball because of all the original tables, especially anything by rom or polygame

>>4667569
Not Pinball.

>>4667576
Yeah, original tables is where Future Pinball really exceeds but VPX is catching up on that front. JP and whoever made that Shovel Knight table are making some great stuff.

>>4667267
>2. If given the option, I prefer to play modern games. (DMD era onward).

EMs and early solid state Bally's and Williams system 11s are great you pleb

>>4667580
Bingo pins are our pastime

>>4669161
>Wawa
>not Sheetz

>>4637761
Ive been to the one in vegas. It has probably forty or more wooden antique restored machines chronologically ordered on the far left aisle. Then each aisle after becomes more modern.
I have thought about building some of the antique ones i liked. They are just way way way different and beautifully designed.
But vr pinball sounds hit or miss.
I dont like vr slots

>>4649991
Ya those rubber bumpers mmm

>>4669190
>Sheetz
>not Rutters

>>4667576
There's some good stuff but unfortunately most originals are still running the crummy original physics and not 2.5/2.6/2.7.

>>4669190
Just posting the first image I came across famalam

With Stern making Iron Maiden, what bands do they have left? A non-DE Guns n Roses?

>>4669317
The Beatles, Baby!
Someone in the chat for the recent tournament suggested a Weird Al pinball machine, I could imagine that selling. Might not be mainstream enough for Stern though.

>>4669335
>>4669317
Queen

>>4669338
Oh, them too. You've heard it's heavily rumored that's going to be Heighway Pinball's next project?
Who else... Hey, wouldn't it be great to have a classical music pin? That'd be fun.

>>4667535
Is there any 1st world country that didn't cared about pinball at least until the 90s?.

>>4669317
I want a Spooky-developed Judas Priest game, that instead of being styled like an early 80s game like TNA, is modeled after a 87-89 System 11 game, with an alpha-numeric display right beneath the screen. The artwork would be in the style of the covers of Screaming for Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith, and Turbo.

>>4669426
Pinball has been around for-fucking-ever, going as far back as the 1870's. http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=5355&picno=38969

Although the first table with actual flippers wasn't until 1947. http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1254

>>4669990
What does that have to do with my post?

>>4667569
>Pachinko
Literally just glorified slot machines. Zero skill required,

>>4669317
I want a Grateful Dead machine. Imagine all the cool art you could throw on it.

>Be the year of our lord 2018
>Pinball still exists
>It's wildly expensive
>Contains only one kind of gameplay
>Can't switch out boards to play other games
>People play it like wildfire

What is it about pinball that has made it stay so long? Even when American arcades are DEAD and the ones that are open barely have any pinball machines... how the hell do they keep being so popular?

>>4671886
I would say that the recent popularity of digital pinball has certainly played a part in making people more interested in real pinball.

>>4671886
Random outcomes. Like poker you can be the best player in the world but you can still get fucked by chance. Fires up the dopamine receptors.

>>4671886
For me, it was seeing so many arcade tour videos with pinball machines I knew I couldn't play, so I went and grabbed all the simulations I could get my hands on.

>>4672257
It looks more like a mummy themed pinball table to be honest.

>>4672257
Oh damn, that looks great. Can't wait to play this, and Maiden is definitely the best band featured so far in any of the music games (Along with Spooky's Alice Cooper). The jets being the Piece of Mind cover is really clever, too.

>>4672257
A bit too colorful but the layout seems good. Love the back of the cabinet though.

>>4672257
Tracklist is:
>The Number of the Beast
>Run to the Hills
>Hallowed Be Thy Name
>Flight of Icarus
>The Trooper
>Aces High
>2 Minutes to Midnight
>Powerslave
>Rime of the Ancient Mariner
>Wasted Years
>Can I Play with Madness
>Fear of the Dark

A pretty good "greatest hits" selection, but the lack of any Paul Di'anno stuff is a little disappointing, at the very least "Iron Maiden" the song itself would've been nice.

>>4672627
I wanted 22 acacia avenue

Anyone watching the game play stream? The game is probably best Stern since Metallica.

>>4672876
Yeah, it looks great. Stern putting some actual effort in for once. Channel is dead_flip on twitch (thanks spam filters)

>>4672257
>ramp through the pop bumpers
The madmen!

>>4673071
>ramp through the pop bumpers
Reminds me of the left orbit on Jurassic park. Thinking about it, the table layout seems quite similar to JP (and by extension, Adam's Family) in general, only with the addition of the right ramp and the raised-kicker-into-Eddie's-crotch borrowed from Lord Of The Rings.

>Really want to make a pinball sim using my RPI3
>It's Linux based

God dangit.

Apollo 13's 13-ball multiball might be one of the dumbest gimmicks that I fucking love. The balls start coming out one at a time, then it pukes up eight more balls onto the playfield all at once. I couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity.

>>4673726
Never got a chance to play Apollo 13 but you should love Aerosmith.

>>4644958
>PEETAH, WE'RE IN PINBALL!

>>4673181
Better to copy good tables than just come up with another crappy one.

>>4639550
I've played machines that have a tilt button funtion that tilted the board what you have shown looks dangerous AF

>>4675196
It's like a baby crib for a pinball machine. Fits perfectly with the play style aka stupid easy.

Time for some gore. That poor table. I was just searching around for some obscure INDER shit and came across this.

>>4675179
True that.

>there are people so delusional to think that there is “good” and “bad” pinball design
All tables are literally the same. Bumpers and flashing lights, ooh maybe this one has a rail instead! Or a flippy gate! Wow!

>>4676097

Does anyone know if Swords of Fury has an adjustable setting to make multiball harder to achieve? I love the game, but I hate how there's only one viable shot in single ball play. You never get a chance a to hear all the awesome music because you can get back into multiball so quickly.

A lot of Stern hatred is unjustified, right? The only valid reasons I can think of are node boards, and possibly the rumor that they buy rights to IPs for the sole purpose of denying them to their competitors.

>>4677452
Unjustified no, over exaggerated yes

>>4677452
I don't really hate Stern, but every time I try their new stuff at MGC I walk away unimpressed. When I got my money saved up for a home pin they weren't even on my radar.

>>4677452
I hear a number of people talk about shoddy build quality, though I can't personally speak on that. They've been having this tendency to release half-baked games with unfinished code, leaving people who dropped $6000 waiting a year to possibly get something worthwhile. At least Iron Maiden seems like it'll be strong right out of the gate, since it's essentially just Keith's homebrew game that he'd already been working on for years.

>>4677452
Well, there's a very informative video on Stern's new Spike system and what it means for owners of those machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APszp0x6GYY

>>4652750
The most complicated process

>>4678862
It's definitely a pain to set up, but once you've got it working, it's pretty great.

Alright, hear me out. Rudy from Funhouse. But he's Pennywise. Thoughts?

>>4679154
Get JJP to make an It themed pinball table.

>>4658892
On the topic of giving and Pro Pinball, you know what would fucking awesome beyond belief? Farsight finally acknowledging the undisputable fact that their physics modeling sucks humongous hairy donkey balls, and proceeding to license the Pro Pinball physics for PA.
Of course, that'll never happen, as it would cost them a few shekels and they'd have to tweak all the tables to play correctly with the new (to them) god-tier physics model. But I guess we can all dream...

Oh, and while on the job of changing things, I really hoped they'd finally change the weak-as-shit sound effects for the physical components of the tables (flippers, bumpers, slingshots, etc.), and especially the nudging sound effect. That shit sounds more like an antique wooden cabinet being shoved around than a pinball table. Is there even any point in having a sound effect for nudging in the first place?

>>4679347
Farsight has made a billion tables and still refuses to fix anything, so I doubt they'd ever bother. Their version of Ghostbusters was flat out broken. Balls just stopping instantly on touching a flipper, acting glitchy, etc. Thank god for the VPX version.

Here's an hour and half long interview with Python Anghelo that not a lot of people have seen. Rather crazy, but I miss him. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd8NwEZRuq0

>>4679678
>He did Bride of Pin*bot

Absolute madman.

Is there any game with worse speech than GotG? Whoever thought those fucking 8-10 line conversations was a good idea deserves a swift kick in the crotch, and that "a bobally bobally" shit makes me want to rip my fucking ears off. I can't imagine playing a long game of GotG and having to endure that shit.

>>4679926
GotG is a shit franchise anyway, you're wasting your time playing it.

>>4679718
Sort of. It was a collaboration with John Trudeau, who did most of the actual playfield design.

>>4677452
>A lot of Stern hatred is unjustified, right?
nope, the art is shit and the build quality is fucking abysmal. I've had ac/dc, transformers, shrek, x-men and kiss all break on me multiple times withing weeks of new.

>>4679678
In this interview, Python talks about the story of his revenge against the Puerto Ricans who kept stealing the hood ornament from his Mercedes. Well worth the watch. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/qrYrYdKae2g?t=17m10s

>>4678951
It is definitely worth it, I played for like two hours without realizing it. I just think a lot of people will be put off cause setting up VP is already a process.

>>4680802
The latest update made it even better.

>>4680980
It looks like it's gone now too, Farsight put in a take down request

>>4681017
Wow, didn't expect that. Least I got it before the takedown.

>>4681046
Yeah, I just got it last night too. I mean it makes sense I guess it's a super popular new table but on the other hand people would just buy it from them if their own version wasn't garbage.

>>4681071
I actually refunded it, it was so bad. Fuck them if they can't make a half-decent physics simulation. Thanks for the free emulator and ROMs, bitches.

YO'RE A DUDE

BALL SAVED!

I went to AYCE Gogi for the first time last night. That's one hell of a place. I wish it wasn't two hours and a drive through fucking LA to get there.

>>4683804
DON'T MOVE

Why does every VPX table look so dark you can't see shit? And when you try and turn the day/night slider up, all the lights get super blown out. What is with this "OMG SUPAR DARK TABLE" fetish? I can't see shit.

>>4686052
To be fair, Big Bang Bar was specifically designed to be played in the dark under blacklight.

>hurr durr it's called black knight of course you're not supposed to be able to see anything

>>4686081
what's with the display in the top right turned 90 degress?

>>4686083
Someone forgot to turn off the DMD display before they took their screenshot.

>>4686052
Nightmodes are fucking cancer and irl even worse. Yeah great being barely able to track a ball whilst the lights go full epilepsy really adds to the game! fucking garbage.

>>4686093
It wasn't nearly as bad with Future Pinball or Visual Pinball 9. What the fuck happened? Why did all these idiots start fucking up their tables with this shit? Do they even play them or just jerk off to the pretty lightshow?

>>4684481
That's a helluva drive to play pinball.

>>4686052
Use camera mode that's under the play table button. You can adjust the general illustration, turn it up to your liking

>>4686276
I know I can fix it, but like I said, if you turn it up too high, the lights just blow out, and then you have to go and adjust every light, which is way too much of a pain.

Other pains include viewing angles that look like you're squatting in front of the table and looking straight on instead of standing and looking down, those stupid color filters that make the entire screen look piss yellow, and ball rolling sounds that are louder than the entire table. And yeah I can fix it all, but it's such a pain in the ass.

>>4686163
Yeah, I just happened to be nearby to see family.

>>4686295
Its been a while since I edited a table but I think you can adjust the all the table lights at once with the bloom setting.

Most of you probably don't care about this, but the pinside top 100 Electro-mechanical machines is fairly sparsely populated with reviews. If there's a machine you know well that you want to review, give it a go.

>>4688175
https://pinside.com/pinball/top-100/em
Forgot the link.

>>4688182
IPDB has a lot more reviews for EMs.

>>4688553
Rating the audio of EMs is silly, right?

>>4688986
I guess, not like they're going to modify the site's rating system just so there's a different category for EMs without audio rating.

>>4688986
Ideally only people who know EMs should be allowed to rate them

>>4688986
Maybe a machine has particularly nice bells.

>>4690775
In terms of EMs I like Fireball and Wizard. Hard to get into them, though.

Extremely fun fact:
The upcoming pinball machine Thunderbirds by new manufacturer Homepin will be the first pinball machine to have a swinging target since Data East's Star Trek in 1991.

http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?ft=swinging.target&sortby=date&searchtype=advanced

>>4694282
Why does the art look so .. retarded?

>>4694315
It's based of an old puppet show called Thunderbirds, it's the inspiration for Team America. The art on the cabinet is show accurate.

>>4694315
>>4694332
Furthermore, the show was never popular in the US, only in Australia and the UK. Homepin is based in China and only has plans to sell to Australia, not the US.

>>4694359
I live in the US and remember watching the show as a kid. It's not popular right now, but it definitely was at one point or another.

>>4694282
That looks so early 90s. I kinda like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddLZwrqMaVE
Aaayyy

>>4694691
The spike system is good for you refined adult customers

>>4694282
Does Ghostbuster's slimer not count as a swinging target?

Phish pinball when

>>4694282
Swinging target - what about the crane+ball on Batman (2008) that swings in from the side?
Or did you mean something else?

>>4695217
You have to wait for Stern to run out of dadrock bands like Rush for that unless you make your own Bathtub Gin homebrew.

I'm going to a pinball place with some friends later tonight. These are the machines, although in pictures I also see some that aren't listed like Batman and the Twilight Zone.

As a pinball pleb, are any of these good?

>>4695651
Pretty solid lineup. TNA and Dialed In are real winners. Wasn't huge on The Hobbit but I only played maybe two games. Also only played a couple of games of Houdini but that showed more promise to me. Was going to buy a Star Trek but TNA came along and my money was better spent there. Creature is a classic. The remakes are being remade for a reason. I love the multiball on Aerosmith where the balls spill out of the toy chest and you can wait and up to 6 balls. Haven't played Argosy or GotG

>>4695697
I started looking up the games and yeah, now I see that those remakes are of games that are considered to be some of the best in history.
Thanks for the insights, now I can pretend to be a know-it-all for my friends.

>>4694282
Wait, I don't recall Phantom having any kind of swinging target.

>switch version of Pinball Arcade you can't buy individual tables

What the fuck man

Got the corvette a while ago and want another one
I was thinking adams family or indiana jones, are these good choices?
How do you make those machines profitable? There's no arcade in my area so I could make a quick buck

>>4686098
my arcade has 20 odd machines and they stuck a bunch down the back so they could have them in night mode, i dont bother with a single of those tables now, it's an absolute mystery to me why ppl like that.

>>4695947
>How do you make those machines profitable?
Make sure you also put a jukebox on site. Pinball doen't bring in the money.

>>4695947
by selling beer and liquor

WHERE'S THE IRON MAIDEN GAMEPLAY?
FUCK

>>4637241
Shaun looks like his "wife" is probably a dude that gives it to him in his mouth hole on the reg.

>>4696075
OMG rollergames.

>>4637241
what the fuck is the point of pinball

>>4696225
No VOD, should've watched it live.
>>4696287
Fun.

Hey poorfags, help some sick kids and maybe get lucky and get your own pinball machine. Also though it says GotG for the premium raffle with the Iron Maiden release they added for any available premium model if you look at the prize details.

https://projectpinball.rallyup.com/

>>4695603
Phish is basically dadrock now. They've been around for like 35 years.

>>4696771
Is dadrock even dadrock if it doesn't get played on the radio?

>>4696789
Why does that matter at all?

>>4696793
Is Frank Zappa dadrock? He's mostly never played on the radio but his whole persona is more relevant than anytime since he was doing his thing, he was what 4chan is now.

>>4695209
>>4695518
In this case, the phrase "swinging target" does not refer simply to any hittable object that swings, but to a standup target moving back and forth like you would see on the games on that list.
To see one in action, please consult this youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QQd8qE57uQ

>>4696813
Zappa is undoubtedly dadrock. Every aging musician knows who he was.

>>4696845
I see, thanks! I'm still pretty new to pins.

>>4695603
You don't understand what i'd go through to get my hands on a Gamehendge LE

>>4696845
My local arcade has a Space Mission and it's a lot of fun even if it's incredibly unpredictable.

>>4696845
>>4698486
I turned the counter over twice in one game on this at a show recently. It's a good game, but I think the kickers by the flippers make it a little too easy.

>>4696287
to achieve a high score by mastering the skills required to do so through a mix of real time flipper control and an understanding of the tables score rules and modes and which shots are the most profitable which all in all all equates to fun unless you have low perseverance and a low i.q in which case go back to playing with your cock in the bath or playing things which require no challenge, reflexes or brain power.

>>4699441
You talk like a fag

Some people like the anime waifus from the Persona series of video games. Me? I fantasize about being manhandled by the anthropomorphized glowing purple ramps of Genesis.

Actually, my shitpost gives me an idea. Wouldn't it be cool if someone did anthropomorphized pinball machines? The Japanese have a word for it... Gijinka. Yes, I have some money for this. Methinks I shall commission something at some point. In fact... methinks it could be the new popular fetish in the year 2020.

Which one would be the best one to make into a human? I know about Bride of Pinbot, but neither she nor Pinbot really look like their respective playfields.

>>4701896
I guess Pinbot has the skillshot on his shoulder. That's a nice touch. RIP Python.

With Japan's arcade gaming scene being relatively alive, do you think a modern pinball game made specifically for Japanese audiences would cause the hobby to catch on there?

>>4703732
Maybe if you mixed it with pachinko somehow.

>>4701896
There are so many tables that are covered in hot chicks regardless of theme. What would the point even be?

>>4703732
I think about this question so much. It's tricky. It would have to be the perfect theme, one that's popular in both the US and Japan. Like Pokemon, for example. And importing pinball is expensive. Maybe Japan can import Thunderbirds, which is being manufactured in China. That might be cheaper to ship.

The problem with starting a pinball scene is that they're hard to repair. You need pinball repairmen to have a (large) pinball scene, and you need a large pinball scene to have pinball repairmen. I know people can repair their own machines, but most people don't want to do that.

You don't just have to ship the Pinball machine to Japan, you have to ship some of the replacement parts there to.

Japan's famous for having good electronics manufacturing, you'd think they'd be manufacturing pinball there already. Weren't they at one point? There's a story where I think Data East or Sega was manufacturing locally in Japan for a while, but I actually don't know much about that. I could be wrong.

There were several Nintendo pinball games, like one or two Kirby pinball games, a Mario pinball game, Metroid pinball, and several pokemon Pinball games. Those videogames all did well in Japan, as far as I know. That and many other reasons make it seem like pinball would be popular in Japan already. But it's not. So I guess starting these things up is harder than it seems. Or maybe in two years pinball in Japan will be back.

FYI, there's this pinball arcade in Amerikamura in Osaka.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kbzxjy/the-silver-ball-planet-inside-a-japanese-pinball-arcade

>>4704080
Maybe virtual pinball does better over there.

>>4700791
yet you're the one with a stable diet of penis, weird.

dead_flip on twitch is streaming Stern's Iron Maiden pinball again.

>>4705513
Man, I only started and I'm already seeing some unique rules. Like double loop value if you leave the upper flipper down for a tighter shot.

>Control-F "Adam"
>Only two results
Not bad. Let's try to get less than that next time, folks.

>>4705907
Don't make me do this

>>4705907
It's spelled "Addams", which is why you only got 2 results.

>>4705907
>>4706545
I hate the sound effects in that game, especially the pop bumpers.

>>4706545
I know. The point of the post is that I'm glad only two people spelled it wrong. I guess that wasn't clear.

>>4707002
Adumbs.