/vr/ - Retro Games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyo1jVWWRFw

>>4641104
Came here to post this.
Have the best radio stations instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBCLoZqkYSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yyaxg6pRao

Gimme your wallet!

>>4641109
those are both good, shame they're only in the first district. personally I'm a big sucker for KREZ and osmosis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9tuSZs7ASw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8NwNZvMNdw

incidentally, they're both from the best district, as well.

>>4641049
>i ain't touchin' that! get outta here!

>>4641049
feeling really nostalgic for the days before this series started to take itself seriously

>>4642041
>gta
>taking itself seriously

Shocking!

>>4642041
It's freeware now and runs well on modern systems

>>4642189
They took down the downloads though.
https://www.rockstargames.com/classics/

>>4642208
There are enough downloads all over the internet though.
My only problem was the game not recognizing the controller input changes, but that was easily fixed with some other program.

why is Anywhere city the only GTA city to never get revisited?

>>4644420
Setting is too weird / original for normies

ITT: characters that remind you of yourself.

for me it's elmo: intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour.

>>4644420
Normies only care about San Andreas or Vice City

>>4644654
>san andreas
best city/world of the "3d" generation (I'm well aware that all games are 3d, hence the quotation marks). I loved exploring the wilderness and the small towns.

>vice city
worst city of the 3d gen. half of the game world is just a giant beach. there's no nature, and everything is flat.

>>4641049
Hot take: GTA 2 is the best GTA.

>>4644420
>>4644420

Too good for this world, thus forbidden.

>>4644685
This man speaks the truth.

Why did he enter the building? He was known for being well known, and he should have known that this was going to happen.

>>4644661
>san andreas
>best
>vice city
>worst

You must be high

>>4648495
any arguments to back that up?

>>4644420
San Fierro and Las Venturas. Despite taking place in San Andreas, GTA5 only features Los Santos.

>>4644639
>And pretty as smelly turd
Oh you forgot about something.

Oh shit, I spent so many hours playing this as a 10 year old.
BRB seeing if this runs through Wine.

live high
live true
live zaibatsu

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ogBN3OcfHY

>>4642053
He's correct tho.

Starting from IV, it's nothing but shit.

>>4648503
Vice is just aesthetics and pink tinted goggles with Video Killed the Radio Star playing in the background.

City is actually smaller than III, with nothing new added other than bikes. Should've been mission pack DLC for III.

San Andreas on other hand is too big, and with nothing to do with all that terrain. It should've included Multiplayer by default.

Rockstar somehow always finds out the fix 10 years after the game gets released.

>>4649094
>Should've been mission pack DLC for III.
it's pretty much that but standalone

TERIYAKI LEAVE ME HONRY
TERIYAKI MAKES ME HONRY
TERI IS SO MERRY
YAKI IS SO HANRY
TERIYAKI

OK THAT SONG CRAP BUT COMPUTER PICK FOR ME AND I CAN'T CHANGE

Fuck, this thread, lads. Nostalgia overload. Still, GTA2 is among my top3 most favourite games of all time.

>>4649085
>inhale
>WOAHHHH

>>4648408
He went on only to look at the carnage and mayhem he's caused, pulled the strings and watched as both gangs whack each other out. He walks off smiling.
What I don't get is that he gets whacked so easily, while stealing a car. I mean, just look around, Claude, goddamnit.

>>4644685
>>4645687
>>4642041
this

>>4644420
I fucking love the art around GTA2, and the retrofuturistic setting as well. Just look at that fucking old time swat operator with the el. batton and shotgun.

And some good radio quotes to end it off
Prodo, if you listening- GET IN HERE! I'm going break your neck you little bastard prick! Get in here because now is your turn! Okay- This is Bomba Tomba, I say good night. This man, is- I am.. a man of my word I will kick your little.. spindley butt!

This is Sammy Starrock at Rockstar radio!

>>4649747
i thought it was snorting and i thought zoom zoom was pretty much legal cocaine

also interestingly the opening FMV in the PS1 version is censored. at the end, claude simply walks away with a smile on his face while one of the russians goes flying from being shot at

>>4649749
uh, actually you are right, it's not inhale but snort. my mistake.

Yeah, PS version (my first ever video game) has a lot of cut stuff. The video is just shortened, I assume because of size, taxi drivers must die is censored, etc.

Also, there are people in this thread that do not consider this as the best song from the game. I pitty them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxVqsUiJHog

>>4649763
>not driving on vegas road
i wind the window down so i can breeeathe~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrg1m-B6iXk
these guys also showed up in 3 and LCS

>>4649767
Yeah, that too, I still have their songs from this, III and LCS in my phone, along with My Tiny World and some others. Nostalgia prevents me from deleting it.

Ez rollers are also da bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeUuvVsYsBM

>>4649763
>>4649767
both wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW7INQpd-ns

this game deserves a remake/spiritual successors with twin stick controls

you could then bring back the one hit kill unless you have armor system from GTA1

>>4649784
>twin stick controls
god no. the current controls put the player on the same level as the npcs, which is a good thing. the player is supposed to be vulnerable.

even in real life, if you have your back turned towards someone who points a gun at you, that's a serious disadvantage. twin sticks would remove that disadvantage entirely.

>>4649794
i pretty much just want hotline miami but its in a futuristic city

>>4649781
very good taste

>>4649747
Samuel I want to know when you're going to get a real jooob, I wanna know when you get out of that studio with those idiots you work with
HOLD ON MA,
don't call these people idiots! These people are not idiots but morons and jackasses but I don't work with idiots

TRY LIVING IN THE BIG CITY ON YOUR OWN YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT

>>4650468
good way to get a free car right away

>>4644661
>just a giant beach
>no nature, and everything is flat
Yeah, that sounds like Miami

>>4650847
>schmidt
>car
choose one

has anyone ever figured out how to get this one token in residential without using the molotov fly glitch/handbrake car up ramp glitch/suicide flying?

>>4650871
doesn't make it an interesting world to explore.

vice city had lots of useless shit that didn't manage to immerse you into the game world. for the music, it felt like they just took a "best of the 80's" cd and bought the licenses for the music that was as famous and at the same time as cheap as possible. it's also weird that a game set in the 80's featured no or next to no italo disco or old school house music. instead they went all in with meme pop music. you know, the kinda stuff someone who didn't experience the 80's assumes that the 80's were all about. it's basically vaporwave before actual vaporwave. and ironically, the game attracted a younger audience than any GTA before it.

I should give GTA2 another spin. I don't think I ever finished the game, or even got very far without cheats, completely ignored the missions most of the time. I just spent majority of the time hauling vehicles to the crusher or whatever to get free items and get the army after me.

>>4649794
>the player is supposed to be vulnerable
Well I mean if we're talking about a remake (not a remaster), you would change how the enemy behaves to address that. The gunplay would have to be faster paced, but I could see twin sticks work on a GTA spiritual successor.

But I know what you mean though, I have to go back and replay, maybe the original style can still work fine.

what was their problem?

were they just supposed to be an escape from new york reference?

>>4650917
>I should give GTA2 another spin. I don't think I ever finished the game, or even got very far without cheats, completely ignored the missions most of the time. I just spent majority of the time hauling vehicles to the crusher or whatever to get free items and get the army after me.
the other maps are worth unlocking. i remember the 2nd one being really fun

armored car clash is fucking bullshit

>>4651053
the first of many unfair missions. the bank van mission was also a bitch.

>>4650917
i used to fail missions on purpose because certain mission cars were flagged by the game as permanent sprites and would not disappear. Like the trailers in Benson Burner

>>4651064
on the PC version they gave you like a hundred permanent spawn cars per map to mess with, but they took them all out on the PSX. They also took out Mad Island, trains, voiceover item pickups, night mode, buses, several car models, explosion rings, and about half of the tile textures

God the PSX version sucked

>>4651080
it's funny, because the addition of lighting was the one biggest graphical improvements from the original. then they cut it from the psx version. I guess it was a performance issue, but it's still a shame.

from what I've heard, there was also a lot of cut content from the dreamcast version (i.e. mad island). I guess PC version is the only definite version.

>>4651058
lol yeah i'm doing that one right now

two yakuza cars rammed into me and the van exploded instantly

Somehow missed playing this one despite having played the original GTA.

>>4651113
it's a MUCH better game. DMA basically tried to make a good game instead of just making a controversial game.

>>4651114
Might have to get round to playing it then.

Never played either London mission pack as well.

>>4651114
it's kinda sad how the entire gaming press collectively decided that GTA 2 would be a disappointment months before it was even released.

it has left an extremely strong mark on the game's legacy. despite being the superior game in nearly all aspects, it's ignored most of the time when /vr/ GTA is discussed. the lack of an Anywhere city revisit speaks for itself.

>>4651080
it's hard to believe that DMA/Rockstar North was actually a PC developer at some point

>>4650904
Probably you should check a guide rather than wait for a reply.

>>4651486
the reason he asks this is because those exploits are the only known ways to get to it

does anyone here have the official strategy guide for GTA2? does it have any cool rare artworks in it?

>>4650904
where abouts is that?
going of this map ( the red square is jesus saves/ starting car park )

>>4650939
fuck knows, I was glad mad island wasn't in the ps version
>>4651080
ps version removed the useless box trailers and also put 2 tanks in different place,
residential zone:( rv park one was put the alley opposite the redneck bowling alley)
and the bullshittery from getting to the one near tedium garage had stairs added,
commercial district: moved a tank from mad island to the pier west of the Russian pay n spray / brown eye sewage ( azeri docks)

>>4649767
Since you already posted my favorite, I'll post my second favorite: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_PbVM7mus

I don't know why, this one hits me in the feels but in a good way, you know?

>>4651990
that render kicks ass

i wonder if they made niko look like him on purpose

I wonder if the models used for the vehicle prerenders still exist somewhere. it would be cool to see how all the vehicles actually look in 3d.

>>4652018

>>4652020

>>4652023

>>4652023
TAXI DRIVERS MUST DIEEEEE

>>4652026
HAVE THEIR FUCKING HEADS
UP
THEIR
ASS

>>4644654
>normies
Not sure if baiting or actually serious ...

>>4650906
Was italo disco popular in the US?
Music could be better but I will always be grateful since they discovered me AFOS.

>>4651263
I remember GTA 2 being highly praised in at least some PC magazines. For some reason it was less apreciated in console.

>>4641109
HMMM... GARBAGE

>>4652280
>since they discovered me
Do you mean "introduce you to"?

>>4652419
I'm sorry I can't speak for shit.

>>4652282
pic related is the average review GTA2 got by critics: a unsubstantiated "mini-review" "saying too much of the same" or "futuristic setting sucks", and giving the final verdict of "8/10, it fucking sucks". typical low quality late 90's early 00's gaming journalism made by highschool dropouts.

>>4652441
Fuck Tom Price, I still recall his mug on the last page of every issue of CGW and he never had anything interesting to say nor seemed to contribute anything to the mag. This is the same mag that gave Black & White a 5/5 before it even came out. Honestly only read it for the news and Tom vs Bruce,

>>4652553
Nevermind, that was Jeff Green.

>>4652553
what the fuck is that guy doing?

he should have closed the box and opened it at one of the ends instead. that way he could just quickly scrape the spider into the box, without any risk of harming it.

>>4652606
Fuck that, some animals are worth caring about but fuck giant ass spiders inside your house. I would have stabbed that faggot dead on with a kitchen knife or blown it into pieces with a BB gun.

>>4652691
it's a tarantula in a middle class home. my money says it's a pet.

furthermore, you don't want to make a mess.

>>4652716
If it were a pet I doubt he would have picked up a lamp and thought about squishing it. That right there is an Australian killing a house spider.

>>4652727
even then, scraping it into the box from one of the ends would be quicker and cleaner.

The token in residential can be reached by driving a limo all the way up there to the roofs and then positioning it so it gets stuck in the 2-long gap and then jumping over it. It's still a weird way to get it, but only one I know without molotov fly.

>>4651093
>>4651058
Dumbest mission is the Vedic Temple Massacre in industrial. I mean, sure shoot up a temple, fun is had, but any mission that locks you in a place against a gang which has a FUCKING FLAMETHROWER as a tercial weapon is just dumb.
Like the mission against scientists where you need to blow those generators in their HQ, the scripted guards carry subs but the regular ped gangsters will eventually slide into all negative and flame you the fuck up.

It was until I realized that I can just hide in the temple and wait out the time, and that I can JUMP over the flamethrower, that it wasn't as hard.

ROASTED

>>4641049
What's your favorite zone?
For me it's:
>Residential
For it's comfyness
>Industrial
For it's depressing (in a good way) athmosphere
>Comercial
For some reason I hate it and everytime I play the game I speedrun through it

>>4651114
>instead of just making a controversial game
>there's a mission where you pick up innocent people on a bus and take them to a meat grinder to then them into got dogs
>Then you proceed to feed those hotdogs to gopniks

>playing the shareware GTA2 on lab computers at school for 2 minutes at a time only

good fucking times

>>4653002
gta1 was edgy for edginess' sake. in gta2, it was part of the dystopian worldbuilding.

>>4653000
Residential is maximum comfy, the Yakuza is also the coolest gangs with best car and missions, too bad that residential gangs only get peestols.
Commercial was cool too because it looked most american to me, loved the highway and always roleplayed I lived in an RV trailer and shit, driving to and working in the prison. Fun.
Industrial is exactly how you said it, depressing in a good way. Checking your digits too.

>>4653002
>shoot up a krishna temple for russians
>deliver bio-cloned hookers to zaibatsu
>massacre land developers because religious land
Reading all the texts in hindsight is fun as hell.

>>4653057
name things you could do in GTA 2 in 2 minutes (pottery)
>complete the bank robbery mission for Yakuza
>Find a tank and blow shit up
>complete the tutorial
>Jackie Chan

>>4652234
IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM CRY
POKE 'EM IN THE EYE

>>4653074
>>Jackie Chan
explain
I'm maximum pleb

>>4653225
just a dumb joke I though would fit, but it didn't. It's one of those "name x things that aren't jackie chan" things.

>>4653235
oic
w/e
this thread has made me want to play some gta2

>>4653074
You're confusing the comercial and residential zones. The comercial is the one with the yakuza and the residential is the one with the rednecks.

God of only I can get this game on Android.

>>4653292
There's probably a PSX emu for Android that can run it

>>4653296
Oh I know that's technically an option, but it's not for me.

>>4653271
ah shit yeah you're right I mixed it up, I mentioned roleplaying living in RV hence residential.

>>4653304
dear lord how horrifying
got any more?

>>4653329
Fortunately _no

>>4653002
well yeah but they didn't forget to actually make it fun that time

>>4653329
Google unbirthing.

YOU'VE SHOT YOUR LOAD

WHAT'S GOING AROUND HERE BOYS SOME KIND OF FAGGOT?

Your activities have seriously upset the Russian, Krishna AND Zaibatsu Bossess and now they ALL want you wiped off the face of the city!

>>4653660
i'm glad you could just do all the jobs instead of having to reach a target score

Are there any custom singleplayer maps for GTA 2 that are worth playing? Have a flying saucer in return https://youtu.be/hUnjMc9iU0o

>>4653942
i wish rockstar would release GTA1 and 2's source code

since take-two owns them though that's highly improbable

>>4653813
yeah, I always tried to do them all and considered the last mission as redemption for all the mayhem.
Saving before one last mission (preferably some quick, green one) and replaying the boss fight in each area is always fun.

>>4653942
I didn't even know such thing was possible.

I had fun in MP maps though, playing just by myself fucking around in custom maps, collecting respect and instant gang tokens and fighting the fbi.

JESUS MY SAVIOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssQwDppWytA

>>4654154
MY FAVOURITE FLAVOR

>that hype you got when you stole a first car in commercial district and the radio was on Funami FM and started rocking the techno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yyaxg6pRao

>>4654750
BAD WEATHER BAD TRAFFIC BAD CRIME

>top down gtas
>best played on a playstation
>pc version is superior

>3d gtas
>best played on a pc
>ps2 versions are superior

Why are Rockstar so retarded?

>>4654859
/vr/ gta was always a PC series first hand, the console versions were just shitty ports.

for the 3d gtas, it was the opposite.

also:
>top down gtas
>best played on a playstation
yeah, no. they were made to be played with a PC keyboard.

>>4654873
>tfw my keyboard ghosts when i drift

>>4654873
No. Top downs fucking suck with PC controls, it's a fucking disaster. Billion times more suited for joysticks.

PS2 versions fucking suck with joysticks. Analog aiming is among worst crimes against humanity.

>>4654936
keys are better for tank controls.

/vr/ GAME HUNTER SESH WHEN

>>4654859
I gotta agree with this, it's like JUST. man can't have everything.

>>4654970
I used to play it with all the polish guys and shit but when I looked it up recently the instructions were so long that I dropped it

>>4655020
Instructions?
It only goes as far as to download Hamachi in case someone hasn't forwarded his ports.
The Polish community for this game is hilariously deep. Poor uzen ;_;

>>4655025
no I mean, there were instructions where you had to downgrade the game, patch it with some shit, edit registry key, grant all rights, unblock some ports or so. Or at least so I remember, trying to find it now.

>>4655072
All you need is a copy of GTA2, GH and forwarded ports.
GTAMP has all resources including the game.

>>4654859
>3d gtas
>best played on a pc
>ps2 versions are superior
WRONG

>>4655250
a bunch of shit is broken and you need fan patches for them

>>4655254
Like what? I've played VC and 3, didn't remember anything being broken (besides that thing in 3 when you jump and fly further).

>>4655260
look at silentpatch and skygfx for examples

>>4655261
Didn't knew that. Well that's the good thing about PC, if somethings wrong, you can fix it most of the time.

>>4654859
San Andreas is definitely the best on PS2, but Vice City is pretty much identical if I recall. As for GTA3, I'm not sure, I didn't get to play it at the time.

>>4655156
i must have read some wrong instructions then.
I still dont know how to forward the ports though, I can't manipulate with my router since it's shared. fug

>>4656062
You can still play through hamachi.
Just join the same server everyone you're playing with is in, everyone on GH (probably noone at this point) will have it.

>>4655272
I hate PS2 games that "push the limits of the ps2" because the DVD drive makes a bunch of damn noise

>>4641104
this game is deep and will be researched in the future by historians and PhD alike

>>4641129
Wow is there any isometric recreation of GTA2 underway?

>>4657121
nah this is probably from some map editor or some conversion

>>4641104
>5:19
it was a different time

>>4657130
I'm still not entirely sure about what it was about. I assume the van belonged to krishna and that the captives were being brainwashed.

I love the setting in GTA2 so fucking much. I love how they managed to create an urban dystopia while still avoiding all 90's memes (i.e. "cyberpunk"). the post modern themes (hedonism at all costs, antimodernist reactions in the form of religious terrorism, etc) make it all the more believable.

>>4657236
but the hare krishna

gta2 has a corrupt japanese megacorp which owns everything, too. pretty cyberpunk imo

>>4657260
the city isn't quite civilised enough topass as cyberpunk. the "low life" part of the high tech/low life dialectic is too dominant. yes, there's futuristic shit everywhere, but it's mostly just a matter of design: the cars have a futuristic design, but they don't really perform any different than the current day cars do. outside of a few decent looking areas (the village, stromberg and a few more), everything is dirty and run down. it's worlds apart from the shiny, hypergentrified skyscraper cities in cyberpunk settings.

there's also the colour scheme. cyberpunk favours heavily saturated colours, but the colours in GTA2 have a pretty low saturation. cyberpunk generally borrows its aesthetics from neo-noir, but GTA2 seems to be more influenced by 80's comic mags.

I can't be the only one

there have been a couple attempts to port it to javascript. You can try googling "gta 2 webgl", but good luck finding a demo that actually works.

>>4657605
i wonder why cockstar just won't open up the source code

the only piece of middleware in the game seems to be the bink video shit which is used ONLY for the opening FMV

>>4641049
>tfw no one has ever completed a comprehensive gta2 vehicle sprite reskin pack
fugg lads...

>beat the game
>it literally just says "NICE TRY!"
did they run out of time?

>>4658418
don't you mean game complete?

>>4658448
https://youtu.be/ZnloU8tfe3E?t=898

>>4652553
fuck, got me.

i forgot how retro futuristic gta2 was, great aesthetic.

Best song coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VXY8k-8dTs

there's no news today because funami fm got new computer and everyone likes to play games

I DONT HAVE TO TALK TO HER
I DONT HAVE TO LOOK AT HER
ALL I HAVE
IS TO DO
HEEEEER

>>4648609
>unironically using Linux for gaming
My sides

I played it again about a month ago. Such a great game. Residential district is best district.

The Penal Ties and Valdez Alert missions are a pain in the ass though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X71p_UO0wxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSdqC7pOr34

>>4661264
GTA2 works fine. So do most of my favorite games. Honestly the biggest hurdle for me isn't GNU/Linux, it's the fact that my T420's onboard GPU just can't cope with anything more demanding that X-Wing Alliance.

>>4661524
i'm shocked you can run it when my school's computer seems to run it at 15 fps

>>4661552
lrn2GNU

>>4661458
all those cop cars suddenly appearing and zeroing in on you always made me laugh

>>4641049
So I was driving around the other day when I decided I needed some smokes to get me through, ya know
So I pull over, park the car, go in the store, come out
A MINUTE LATER
THE CAR - WAS - GONE
STOLEN
FIFTH TIME THIS MONTH

>pick up kill frenzy
>it's molotovs
fuck

>>4662447
>use the shotgun to kill 20 cops in 60 seconds
LITERALLY HOW

>>4662532
i think if you have a wanted level you keep it during KFs, which is really helpful sometimes

does anyone ever get the double "tanksgiving mission glitch in the second zone?

>>4657558
better on the west bridge to the z village
>>4661458
I always forget that the penal ties mission exists, then collect it when I have a full armory -_-

>>4662192
"and theres never a cop around, some man in blue telling me - who are you?
im dean frantz, I don't need to show you my idea"

Mama Mia!
Pizza Cake have chosen me to tell you about the new Corleone Pizza!
Soft, white Italian dough,
Soaked in the finest Palermo tomato,
all topped with one whole pound of Milano cheese
Mmmmmwah!
And remember what Mama said - leave room for desert at Pizza Cake!

>>4662447
>it's grenades, aka more unpredictable molotovs

>>4665452
i literally just noticed the pun in that name

does killing gang members while invisible actually affect my standing with them?