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4642196 No.4642196 [Reply] [Original]

good emulation device

>> No.4642203

No arguments here. If I was someone who wanted to get into the hobby from scratch, I'd just get one of these, a snes mini controller, and a nice crt.

>> No.4642204

>>4642203
wat can it emulate well

>> No.4642283
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>>4642196

>> No.4642290

>>4642196
How is the input latency?

>> No.4642523

>>4642196
Wii and fat psp are the only two emulation devices I've ever needed.

>> No.4642693

>>4642290
Depends on the emulator and controller input used.
Recently I did a bunch of manual lag tests from the 240p test suite, basically comparing a bunch of different configurations and doing around 20 tests per to get averages.
My setup:
Wii with GC ports hooked to CRT over composite via hw switch
SNES with SD2SNES hooked to same hw switch
I used a GC controller as a zero lag point for determining how much lag other control inputs added.
My rough findings were:
SNES9xGX adds ~ 1 frame
raphnet GC-SNES adaptor adds ~<0.5 frame
wiimote adds ~>0.5 frame
GenplusGX doesn't add enough lag for me to really detect.

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>> No.4642787

>>4642717
Top tier

>> No.4642789
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>>4642196
>emulating anything ever

>> No.4643258

>>4642204
NES, SNES, Genesis, GBA/GBC/GB, Game Gear, N64, C64, any arcade machine, NeoGeo/NGP, the list goes on. Look into homebrew wii software, it's insane. It also plays Wii and GCN games, if you're that kinda guy. Pretty useful piece of hardware, and cheap as hell, too.

>> No.4643269

>>4642693
I use a Wii for nearly all of my /vr/ needs, and I've never really had to worry about the input latency at all. For NES emulation, I just use a wii remote, which I know has lag due to being wireless, but unless your playing shit like battletoads or mega man, it's negligable. For SNES games, I either use a classic controller or a SNES classic controller, which I know, still has lag, but it's barely noticeable unless I'm playing SF2, for which I usually use a GCN controller anyways. Beyond that, any newer console games that I emulate or play are comfortable with a GCN controller, with almost no lag at all. So it depends what games you're planning to play, because playing Mega Man 3 on a Wii is almost not worthwhile.

>> No.4643272
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>>4642196

>> No.4643456

>>4643258
>N64
Don't be silly anon
>>4643269
Oh, I agree. I've even been using the Wii instead of my SD2SNES merely to avoid fiddling with the switcher and stuff. I do prefer using GC or raphnet SNES adapter instead of wiimote/classic because batteries are a pain.
>playing Mega Man 3 on a Wii is almost not worthwhile.
How do you mean?
>>4643272
I was under the impression it couldn't into 240p.

>> No.4643512

>>4643456
mega man 3 requires very precise, almost frame-perfect inputs at times, so unless you spend some money on an adapter or are okay with using a gamecube joystick to play NES games, you have to put up with a few frames of input lag from your wireless Wii remote. I should also note that my Wii is hooked up to a digital flatscreen TV most of the time, which makes it pretty hard to get used to playing most megaman games on if you've already played them with no lag in the past. But for casual emulated play, the Wii is great.

>> No.4643517

>>4643456
>>>4643258 (You)
>>N64
>Don't be silly anon
VC N64 emulation is really smooth even on the Wii. And if you don't want to shill out for Wii Shop Channel points, you can get a WAD manager on a homebrew enabled wii and download as many VC games off the internet. Once installed on the Wii, they run just as well as genuine NAND channels.

>> No.4643535

>>4643517
Sure, the games that work, work. All the rest don't. That's not what I'd generally mean when asking if a system emulates well.
>>4643512
>digital flatscreen TV
Oh, the entire point of using a wii is 240p for CRT though...
>few frames of input lag from your wireless Wii remote
My rough tests above put the wireless lag at <1 frame actually.

>> No.4643559

>>4643535
>My rough tests actually put the wireless lag at <1 frame actually.
well I guess i'll take your word for it anon, i haven't done any tests myself. i probably just imagined that it was worse even when i did use my crt. my main problem is that i use my wii to watch netflix on my flatscreen, so sometimes i cant be bothered to take it into the other room and hook it up to my crt and i just play majoras mask on the flatscreen. i would not recommend doing this with mega man, SF2, or SSB though because you'll notice, and it's annoying.

>> No.4643567

>>4643456
xbox doesn't do 240p which is why I like it. 240p looks very bad to me on most games.

>> No.4643648

>>4642196
it is very much

i wish the sega saturn emulator worked better on this shit also i cant get bucky o hare and sailor moon to work on the arcade emulator

>> No.4643682

Wii stutters for me. It is ok, but its obvious that you are playing it on an emulator, not the real thing. I only use it for systems that I don't own like NES (doesn't stutter on this) and PC-Engine.

>> No.4643684

Its ok but id still rather use the real systems
All i use my wii for is to play wii / gcn

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>>4643567
>Native resolution for most games being emulated looks bad
You might as well just play on a pc then. Lack of 240p and Dat horrible d-pad on OG isn't exactly a selling point.

>> No.4643792

>>4643567
>240p looks very bad to me on most games.
You aren't using a CRT either, are you? 480i looks jittery and fuzzy on an SD CRT.

>> No.4643797

>>4643682
>Wii stutters for me.
At least mention what emulators it stutters on. The Wii is only recommended for up to 4th gen, and it's beautiful. You're on your own for 5th.

>> No.4643807

>>4643797
Super Nintendo. The music stutters from time to time and its very noticeable.

I mean, I have an actual Super Nintendo, so it isn't a big deal, but that wii component is pretty sick.

>> No.4643820

>>4643807
I've not encountered that yet. Do you mind telling me the game/s? I would be interested in seeing what the limits of my setup are.

>> No.4643838

>>4643820
Final Fantasy V, because that's the game that I was mostly messing around with.

>> No.4643839

>>4643838
I'll have to try it then, thanks.

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>PSP Go
>Easy to hack
>displays PS1 games in 240p
>system plays PS1 games almost natively
>bluetooth PS3 controller support
expensive emulation device

>> No.4643923

>>4642196
aside from PC it's probably the best emulation device. if you have one of these, a ps2, and an og xbox you can play pretty much any console game worth playing without spending any money on games.

>> No.4643968

>>4643870
The cradle for doing tv out and charging at the same time costs as much as the system. Also get your consoles off the carpet

>> No.4644098

>>4642196
So how do I download emulators on a Wii? I've installed homebrew and nintendont but never figured out how to get emulators on it. Can I do this with a flash drive? I'd prefer not to have to buy sd cards.

Also I have a Mac, so before you link me keep that in mind please.

>> No.4644105

>>4643870
>too small for normal hands

The aesthethics of the Go are beautiful but it's clearly designed for baby hands.
If you have normal hands playing on it soon becomes some kind of chinese punishment.

>> No.4644107

>>4643870
>tfw sold my PSP Go and cradle and component cables
Can we please turn back time? But on the other hand, it was to fund towards my Japan imported Vita

>> No.4644439

I agree. Once the hombrew channel is installed, the NES, genesis, snes work perfectly without noticeable input lag, even on an HDTV. The N64 emulator works but compatibility is on a game-by-game basis. CFBD for example works great on Not64.

>> No.4644446

>>4642196
I'd argue that the WiiU is even better. It has virtual Wii built in, so you'd get the WiiU library, as well as all of the regular Wii's homebrew and emulation capabilities.

>> No.4644447

>>4644098
How did you install homebrew without an sd card?

>> No.4644706

>>4644447
No I used an sd card the first time. I just picked up a second Wii and want to install homebrew etc. judging by your question I'm guessing I need another sd card

>> No.4644713

>>4644706
You can use the same card. You can technically store things on USB after HBC is installed but it's much clunkier (though obviously quite useful for GCN/Wii ISOs). I jockey one SD card between two hacked Wiis depending on which TV I'm using. Your configured SD card is usable on any Wii with HBC installed.

>> No.4644719
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>>4644446
Yes but name five WiiU games worth playing through...

>> No.4644734

>>4644713
So basiclly install the homebrew channel onto second Wii with my old ad card. And once installed I can remove the card and put it back in my old Wii. Then install a bunch of emulators onto a flashdrive and keep that plugged into my second Wii?

>> No.4644828

>>4644734
I would install the emulators and ROMs on the SD card and move it between Wiis. But I think you can tell HBC where to look for things, and I believe a USB drive is one of those options. I'm not near mine right now or I'd check for you.

>> No.4644869

>>4642693
How about an USB controller? Retroarch on Wii has the option to use one and SNES9xGX has modded support for a PS3 controller AFAIK

>> No.4644908

>>4644446
No native 240p option is what kills it here, though. If all you're going to use is an HDTV, it's great.

>> No.4644927

>>4644719
sm4sh, wwhd, tphd, mk8, smm

>> No.4644932

>>4642196
>hehe look mom i posted a non-retro console on /vr/ aren't i devilish

>> No.4644937

>>4643870
how much does that TV weigh?

>> No.4644946

>>4644869
Haven't tried it cause I figured it'd be worse. Maybe I should.

>> No.4644947

>>4642196
I stole my bro's Wii but I can't find my old GC pad. I have a iBuffalo USB SNES pad though, any way I can use it on the actual console?

>> No.4644956

>>4644947
Depends on the emulator. Some support usb pads some don't.

>> No.4644959

>>4644956
Cool, I'll look into that, thanks anon.

>> No.4644963

>>4644959
no problem.

>> No.4644968

>>4643559
>netflix in 480p on a flat screen
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.4644969

>>4644927
>2 Zeldas
>2 Marios
>1 fighting game with Zelda and Mario
nintoddlers

>> No.4644980

>>4644968
one of these days ill get another netflix device but for now the wii is fine. maybe i should just suck it up and get a 360. do those have emulation potential?
>>4644969
im not saying you should buy one, im just saying that those are basically the only games on it. you could also get brap of the wild if you wanted. its not that bad of an investment. i had mine for years with nothing but sm4sh, but i eventually sold it and pulled out my old wii again.

>> No.4644984

>>4644980
Only if you run the jtag hack. It is hard to do. Need to solder. Take apart the xbox. Depending on which one you get and what firmware it is, you may have to track down a coolrunner2 board.

>> No.4644991

>>4644984
eh, ill just put together an htpc that can also emulate games one of these days

>> No.4644997

>>4644980
Honestly, This is me>>4644984
You should stop believing the propaganda, and get a raspberry pi. They just put out an update and the new clock speed is 1.4ghz. You won't be able to run n64(some)/Dreamcast(some)/Saturn. But for 2d games it's fine.

>> No.4645020

>>4644946
It shouldn't be that bad considering it's a wired connection

>> No.4645030

>>4644968
>watching goyflix period
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.4645776

>>4642196
>needs double a batteries just to turn it on.

thats what kills it for me


Anyway im using raspberry pi and N64 games are all buggy. Should i be waiting for more updates or the pi 4?

>> No.4645782

>>4644828
alright, I don't really want to swap between sd cards since the wii's will be in different locations. Is my best bet to just buy a second sd card :/

>> No.4645843

>>4645776
>needs double a batteries just to turn it on
That's why I set mine to boot directly into the Homebrew Channel, which can be controlled from the GC ports. Don't even bother with the silly wiimotes anymore.

>> No.4645847

>>4645843
yea nintendont is pretty dope. I have my wiimote in a drawer in an optimal place. I just open the drawer hit the power button and that's it. The rest is controller by gc controller.

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>>4643968
understandable, have a nice day
>>4644105
They're ugly as sin to play on without a DS3 controller. The 12 year old I bought my PSP from cracked it near the power switch, so now the screen turns off when I press the O button. Even without my defect the whole thing just feels cheaply made.
>>4644937
It's a 27 inch that supposedly weighs around 105lbs./47.6kg. It's definitely not as bad as some of those 36 inches out there.

>> No.4645865

>>4645851
cute setup, i love that gen but you should be banned since this is /vr/ and it does not tolerate those sort of things.

how much did you buy it off the 12yo for? I love buying rarities off idiots who don't know its worth or people who stole it and don't know its worth

>> No.4645872

>>4644927
>Aonuma Zelda
>worth owning
Shit taste.

>> No.4645896

>>4642196
If you want to emulate on a CRT display, it's pretty much your best choice. If you're emulating on a modern display, then it's a retarded choice.

I'd love it if one of these SBCs would actually have native component video output.

>> No.4645902

>>4645865
He was selling it for $100 on craigslist out in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It would have been higher, but he lowered the price due to that O button defect. It was cheaper than ebay, and I had to drive through CR anyways to visit my family, so I think the cost was pretty reasonable in the end.
Also I just wanted to let that anon know that I'm taking care of my SD consoles now. pls no bully.

>> No.4645908

>>4645902
Damn, $100?! I'm so looking for a way better deal, i'm trying to pick a go up for like 30. Anyway, is there a point in getting one if I already have original hardware and such?

>> No.4645921

>>4645908
In my opinion, it's only really good for running PSX and PSN eboots on your TV, and even then you still need to get an $80 cradle, a $25 component cable, and then find a working PS3 in order to register a controller to your PSP Go. If you're not willing to fork over the dough, I would settle for a cheap fat PSP instead. Just bind L1+L2 to the analog stick for PSX games instead.

>> No.4645938

>>4645782
I use everything on a USB stick, you're good

>> No.4645943

>>4645921
yea i understand that. That's why i'm looking to get the go for cheap since the cradle and cables will run me up there. Do only certain ps3's work with it? I've got that gunmetal grey mgs4 ps4. I'm more of real hardware kind of guy and usually shy away from emulation but I can deal with it as a not main setup.

>>4645938
cool, good to know. Did you also install homebrew with usb or just the old sd card way

>> No.4645946

>>4644997
Fuck you, RPI3 is laggy as shit

>> No.4645968
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>>4645943
You know how cheap an android tv box is??. They play ps1 as good as any android tablet, plus nes, snes, genesis, sms, gb/gbc, gba, amiga, c64, n64, nds, etc.. It also doubles as a netflix/youtube device. You can hook up a usb mouse and keyboard/gamepad(android compatible). I use a 8bitdo mini snes controller.

But i also have a wii, which is great for light gun games. Snatcher on sgega cd is pretty nice on wii. I also have a gpd win for handheld emulation (oddworld, bushido blade, oot, and fallout nv in bed.)

If you want laggy gba and n64 get a wii, but if you want smooth gba, n64 and ps1 get an android tv box from china for 50 bucks.

>> No.4645983

>>4645943
Outside of repairing a broken one, theres almost no way you're going to get away with paying for $30 for a PSP go. Just save up the money for it and troll your local craigslist listings in the meantime. Be careful not to burn more on gas than you'd save buying it somewhere else.

As far as I know, the PSP GO + PS3 controller pairing only needs the PS3 operating system and the usb connector cables for the psp and DS3 to work. The specific model shouldn't matter. (I'm assuming that part about your PS4 was a typo and you meant to say PS3.)

>> No.4646040

>>4645968
>laggy gba
Are you not using mGBA or something? Everything I throw at it works fine, though I haven't tried Golden Sun

>notvr

>> No.4646145
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4646145

Dont know if its been mentioned

Buy one of these. its the wii 'classic controller' but plugs into the gamecube port. I love it.

You still have to keep the wiimote handy if you want to use the home button, but i like the feel so much better than the gc controller.

Since its wired, it might cut down on input lag. i dont know, though.

>> No.4646150

>>4642196
I just recently did a soft mod, added the homwbrew channel and installed usb loader gx.
Now I play games from an external hdd.
It's just great.

>> No.4646326

>>4645968
but can you run Mario Tennis 64?

>> No.4646330

>>4646145
How's the build and button action on these? I've thought about picking one up but I've had bad luck with Chinese controllers.

>> No.4646743

anyone remembers the Dingoo A320? It was good especially when you installed dingux on it.

>> No.4646749

>>4646145
Why is the controller upside down?

>> No.4646793

>>4646749
It's a chinese knockoff

>> No.4646849

>>4646330
Curious about this myself. Amazon has the Cinpel branded ones for $12 and I'm thinking about getting one.

>> No.4647031

>>4646145
Doesn't look very comfortable.

>> No.4647083
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For me? It's gotta be a comfy Vita with a beautiful OLED screen that I can play in bed.

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>>4642196
>be Eurofag
>finally be freed of the PAL curse once the 7th generation rolls around
>Wii comes out
>features tons of well-emulated classics
>they're all PAL
>mfw

>> No.4647318

>>4646330

Feels really good. i dont feel much difference between it and the nintendo brand. Feels 10x closer than all the shit SNES controller knock offs ive used. But i dont know what 'brand' mine is (its nameless) so your mileage may vary.

>>4646749
its an ebay pic. i dont know what the fuck they were thinking.

>>4646793
40 keks

>>4647031
its a copy of the wii classic controller. the design isnt perfect (feels very snes-ish) but the size is good for grown-up hands.

>> No.4647321

>>4647318
Rad, thanks for the insight.

>> No.4647757

>>4647283
Yeah that really fucking sucks. Way to push emulation, Ninty

>> No.4648079

>>4647083
I told my friend about this and then months later after bitching to me about wanting a vita i get a pic from him of some ugly ass blue vita slim.

He came over last week and tried selling me on why he bought the slim
>i read that oeled had pixel issues with the screen
>its a lot heavier and has like problems
>it just looks uglier
then on why he got the slim
>it was a really good deal, $210 on amazon
>blue looks so cool, black looks like shit, its really ugly
>its lighter than my iphone

he downloaded a bunch of playstation games from the ps store and is playing them on it now. He will never use it for real emulation besides whats on the ps store.

He's a friend of mine for life but he's so fucking retarded and annoying.

>> No.4648305

anyone have a link to where I can download the Wii's entire official virtual console library? I'd rather not download random emulators that are liable to having issues. Would rather just get whatever Nintendo put out.

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>>4646743
Yes, i wish i had one. I have a few gp32s and gp2xs, which is great for emulation. The gp2x runs neo geo, mame, snes, genesis, master system, etc...but the f200 has a dpad witch is way better for fighting games.

The screen is great though.

>> No.4648463

>>4648305
docs DOT google DOT c om SLASH spreadsheets/d/1cN_kQhpRXK1SexHf22UYOFThunVR5BOW-XTEPXlUXEs/pubhtml

>> No.4648598

>>4648463
Fucking badass man. I always saw people mention 62gb. I thought there were only a few hundred titles, I didn't know there were legit thousands! Much appreciated. Comp is getting started on that now.

>> No.4648606

So I'm setting up a 480i crt, want a device that can emulate the more obscure stuff like turbo 16 and older arcade stuff like CPS2. So its gotta output 240p and just for ease of use in my setup, able to use SCART. I'm assuming a wii is the best device for me? Wii would also cover playing GameCube games on my retro setup so it's a two birds 1 stone type of thing.

>> No.4648617

>>4648606
Just get a Wii.

>> No.4648625

>>4648617
That's what I thought. Alrwady have one that's soft nodded. Just need a scart cable for it

>> No.4648632

>>4648463
>>4648598
Wish there was some complete pack I could download like I did for my 64 titles but I'll take this. So I basically just weed through everything and get whatever is USA right?

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I know this isn't the place to ask this, but I don't want to litter the catalog just for this.

On a scale of 10, how comfortable does this D-Pad look? I'm looking for a PS1 controller and I thought that, since the market is full with Chinese shit, I might as well look at a different design.

>> No.4648728

>>4644947
Give it back Tyrone.

>> No.4648787

>>4648463
a little ticked off the list doesn't contain Shock Troopers for the NeoGeo. Makes me worry that the list is missing other virtual console games

>> No.4648806

>>4648463
>>4648787
have to wait 30 minutes between downloads ;_;

>> No.4648821

>>4648698
2

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It serves all my needs for now. Size and ease of use are a big plus.

>> No.4649000

>>4648698
I think I actually have that one.
It's kinda tarded. IIRC something about the sticks make FPS difficult.

>> No.4649005

>>4643838
Did you get a rom with a bad header? There are quite a few bad dumps of FF5 floating around.

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>>4649005
>bad header makes sound stutter
please explain.

>> No.4649186

>>4643838

Don't know what emulator you're using but Snes9x-next on Retroarch is the best available, no game can hassle it in my experience.

>> No.4649246

>>4648463
Any way I can dl individual files only?

>> No.4649318

>>4649246
Literally that link allows you to dl individual games.

>> No.4649383

How do you use USB external controllers with the Wii?

>> No.4649397

>>4649383
Only some homebrew emulators support USB controllers

>> No.4649598

>>4649397
Wich controller would you recomend?

>> No.4649618

>>4649598
I use a Classic Controller Pro on my Wii for simplicity and comfort.

>> No.4649693

>>4649598
I use my PS3 controller and it's ok

>> No.4649694

>>4642196
wii u is better.

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Is there a way to operate a Wii (menus, etc) without using the Wiimote? I'd rather just use a controller.

>> No.4649701

>>4644446
also gamecube games w/ the gamepad

>> No.4649702

>>4649698
You can use a classic controller to move the pointer around if you don't have a sensor bar, but a Wiimote is still involved one way or another. I don't think it works with anything in the GCN ports.

>> No.4649703

>>4649698
the classic controller works for that

>> No.4649750

>>4649698
bootmi can launch you straight to the hbc, if you don't care about playing WADs

>> No.4650090

>>4643517
>>4643535
I have a shit ton of wads for wii virtual console including DLC for wiiware. I'm positive I have some out of region shit too since i have a total file count of 826, which is more than what was released on VC and WiiWare in the US.

whats my next step? I hear that its possible to brick the wii if your wads are altered or some shit? I have a 16gb sd card, a 16gb flashdrive, a 4gb sd card, and a 500gb external hard-drive. I heard you can get the wads installed onto your wii? If done do i need to worry about storing the wads somewhere else like on an sd card or some shit

>> No.4650820

>>4649698

Install Priiloader and set it to boot into an app, something like Homebrew Channel or Wiiflow is best. You can avoid the remote entirely this way.

>> No.4650834

>>4650090

If you want to play it safe you can run the wads through ShowMiiWads and make sure they all have the region free flag, that way nothing will hurt the system. As far as installing them you can either use the wad manager homebrew to install them to the system storage or install them to a custom NAND on your USB via Showmiiwads. The nand route is where most go as you can't fit many games on the Wii's internal storage.

>> No.4650984

>>4650834
Awesome so I don't even need a wad manager if I just use showmiiwads and have a custom NAND on my USB.

Just curious if there's a simple rundown on how to setup a custom NAND and what it even is? I'll be looking it up myself after this post but it's always nice to have some help.

Relieved that I can just keep all that shit on my flashdrive

>> No.4650989

>>4643258
I could never get jurassic park arcade game working right on the wii

>> No.4651001

>>4646145
>but plugs
:DDD

>> No.4651206

>>4650984

I used Modmii - it has a built-in wizard that does the whole thing for you, you just answer a few questions like region, menu and and the like. After that just install wads via Showmiiwads/showmiinand.

>> No.4652039

>>4651206
Sheesh it sounds like there are bunch of ways to go on this. I think I'll just install showmiiwads and play them off my usb. If that's even possible. Idk but I guess I'll figure out the correct procedure hopefully

>> No.4652404

>>4652039

Yeah it can be pretty annoying, you just have to go by date and try and find the most recent guides, as those tend to be the most efficient. Also doesn't help that there's dead links fucking everywhere now.

Here's a good nand making guide:

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiiflow-mod-and-emunand.333219/

And if you go into the 'Extracted' folder here you'll find pre-built emunands for U and E regions, instead of making one with modmii you can just drop the folders in place and follow the rest of the guide as normal.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jcc59ml76vb8spp/HyqQlzVoHa?lst'

>> No.4652675

>>4652404
Dude thank you. I was up at like 2am last night just scrolling around trying to even fucking understand nands and also looking for relevant recent guides. Like you said the web is plagued with old shitty info on all of this.

This is very much appreciated. I'll be checking it out after a shower and a cup do tea.

>> No.4652872

>>4652404
fack, roadblock hit. I don't know if modmii exists for Mac but I can't find it.
I'm using wine and can get the exe file to open, but after I type "I Agree" it prints out below "does not exist, try again..."

I'm not sure if its looking for the temp file and can't find it but it just immediately closes out the window. Can't find any help on it but I'll keep trying

>> No.4653367

>>4652404
Make sure you use neek2o rev95 and not the newer rev96 which is less stable and will not work on sd cards (Sneek setup). Also it is recommended that you dump a copy of your wii's nand with bootmii and make an emunand from that rather than building one from scratch.

>> No.4653470

>>4652872

It may be best to pursue one of the other options as I know Modmii pulls stuff from the Nintendo servers, with us almost at the Wii store's closing date it may be less reliable.

>>4653367

Completely forgot about that, very good call. This should be the easiest route - dump the nand with Bootmii (select the icon with an arrow pointing from a Wii to an SD card), open up Showmiiwads' 'Showmiinand' mode, hit 'Extract Bootmii Dump', pick the dumped file on the SD root, select the destination (your USB root) and it should work.

>> No.4653710

What resolution are you guys using in Retroarch Wii's video settings? Seems like each one has some sort of weird distotion or scrolling problems with some cores.

>> No.4653742

>>4642196
>good emulation device

it can barely run snes emulator without the occasional pause or hickup.

> be me
> soft modded the fuck out of wii's since first exploits were released

there are far better devices around these days for that sort of thing than the wii. its cpu is too slow for any accurate emulation. it's tolerable, but not good.

>> No.4653747

>>4653710
RetroArch is an absolute nightmare on the Wii, I would really recommend trying the standalone emulators, particularly Mednafen to see if you notice any difference in performance.
>>4653742
>it can barely run snes emulator without the occasional pause or hickup.
This was true ten years ago, not now.

>> No.4653789

>>4653710

I find It depends on the system, like 640x240 (or any 240p res) works fine for NES or TG16 but totally shits the bed on SNES, where I use 640x224 instead. Just keep experimenting.

>>4653742

Don't use SNES9x-GX you fool, it's nearly ten years old.

>> No.4653808

>>4653789
It's actually still in active development and works quite well for most games, and its 240p mode 'just works'.

>> No.4653823

>>4653808
>Last release in 2016
>Last change 14 days ago
Where are the new releases? I can compile my own, but not everyone can.

>> No.4653830

>>4653823
I'm using the 2016 release, it's still improved significantly since the 'old days'. It's even got an overclock option for SuperFX titles now, which is awesome. Doom still has all the weird graphical errors, but that's not a huge loss.

>> No.4654170

>>4653823
https://github.com/dborth/snes9xgx/releases

>> No.4654252

>>4643682
Not OP but GBA isn't perfect but its playable. Try advanced wars. The battle cinemas are messed up on retro arch and the other emulator. That said it's still good, IMO one of the best ways to play GBA on a tv if you dont have the gamecube thing

>> No.4656082

>>4642693
1 frame is extremely low lag, right?

>> No.4656087

>>4642196
Yes, Wii hits the sweet spot on many fronts with emulation.

>cheap
>240p access on consumer CRT television
>good controller options
>good enough specs for many systems to have fast and accurate emulation from a practical perspective
>can also play Wii and GCN games

>> No.4658065

How does one turn their Wii into an emulation machine? Is there a standard guide?

>> No.4658083

Why can't other consoles be used similarly?

>> No.4658089

>>4658083
Plenty of them can. Wii is just the best because it can be hooked up to a standard television and output 240p naturally.

>> No.4658169

>Download Rondo of Blood WAD
>42MB

Now, I freely admit I'm new to Wii hacking and all, but what's up with this? How is it possible for a CD-based game to be so small? I realize the Wii didn't have a lot of space so file sizes had to be kept to a minimum, but it looks like literally everything is under 50MB, even CD games and original WiiWare titles. Did they just fucking delete all the music from the game or what?

>> No.4658187

>>4658065
softmod it

Google it

>> No.4658219

>>4658169
>How is it possible for a CD-based game to be so small?
I think you can get lots of value out of a 256-500gb external drive. It will hold most everything you can think of. I use a 256gb USB flash & 32gb sd, and I have most of the entire Nintendo exclusive library of NES, SNES, Wii & GC. No support issues with any of the 6 gorrillion controller attachments. My kids got done with the wii years ago, and I got stuck with this hunk of junk, so I use it to preserve our library. Gamecube games are getting the rot really bad, and they are getting tricky to find good.

>> No.4658247

>>4642196
The perfect emulation device has existed for decades: it's called a PC.

Modern ones can output in HD, and be hooked up to any modern TV, and use whatever kind of controller you like.

You should try it.

>> No.4658249

>>4658169
Wow chill man, you're acting surprised about nothing. Sixth gen CD games can be very high or very low in capacity. Sometimes hackers rip a lot of the music out of them. It's nothing to do with the Wii.

>> No.4658253

I hate having to use the stupid remote though every time I turn it on.

>> No.4658262

>>4658253
You dont have to. With either bootmii or priiloader you can have it set up so you can boot into homebrew channel, which you can control with a gc controller/any controller connected to the gc ports.

>> No.4658736

>>4658065
https://please.hackmii.com

Do that, then install/find emulators from WiiBrew (or their GitHub pages if WiiBrew is way out of date).

>> No.4658738

>>4658169
>Did they just fucking delete all the music from the game or what?
No, but they do convert the Redbook CD Audio to really low-quality lossy formats.

>> No.4658807

>>4658249
>>4658738
You raise good points. I somehow forgot about ripping and encoding the music tracks into much smaller files to save space. I blame being tired and getting ready for bed for my ignorance. I also forgot how 16 bit games are really really small, and never used barely a fraction of a full CD, I'm just used to jamming full disc images into emulators. Thanks for humoring my stupidity last night

>> No.4658815

>>4658807
It's all good, anon. I hate that all the good rips of PC Engine CD games have the audio ruined, but I think it has as much to do with saving space as it does with lessening the audio decode load on the emulator. Shame though, the whole point of CD Audio is that it's high quality. And yeah, the actual 'game data'; for PC Engine CD games is really tiny.

>> No.4658821

>>4642196
I have 2x and they constantly crash when using emulators.
Only the original Nintendo releases are any good.

>> No.4658830

>>4643258
I have always wondered, how does the wii emulate the C64? I mean, it has no keyboard so how are you supposed to start some games?

>> No.4658831

>>4658821
Have you not updated the emulators since 2007?

>> No.4658832

>>4658830
You plug in a USB Keyboard, anon.

>> No.4658837

>>4658830
You can plug in a keyboard anon.

>> No.4658908

the Wii is an excellent device, but PS1 is out of the picture and that kinda sucks. I ended up buying one of those 15khz VGA to SCART cables and that shit is pretty much the same except on PC, where I can mess a bit more with RetroArch. Now if only Dolphin was as good as the real thing...

>> No.4659528

>>4658065
https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-do-i-get-usb-loader-gx-to-properly-utilize-emunand.437521/

https://gbatemp.net/threads/driver-san-francisco-hangs-on-load-screen.389252/#post-5508831

pretty much these two guides are supposed should allow you to have your wii ready to play everything from Wii's Virtual Console, which is basically emulation. I've been trying to get this to work for the better part of the last 5 days

>> No.4660676

is the no s-video on pal wiis a hardware limitation, or will they be able to output via s-video if the emulator is running in ntsc mode?

>> No.4660720

wii u a best if you want nintendo systems emulation

1v1 me in tetris attack fgt

>> No.4660729

>>4642196
I only use my Wii for SNES since I like to play everything else on my PSP, but it feels really fucking good to be able to play everything with the same controller I used as a kid on my original SNES.

>> No.4660794

>>4646145
I bought one of those and it was awful.

Then again it's possible that mine was just shitty one(it's chink shit after all) but personally I wouldn't recommend buying one.

>> No.4660957

guys any one got links to emulators that will run on an R4 flash card on a new 3ds xl? have lameboy running, tried picodrive and gens but they wouldnt load. would really appreciate the help, not new to emulating but i am new to doing it on a 3ds and search results are muddy to say the least

>> No.4660960

>>4660957
https://gbatemp.net/threads/list-of-all-emulators-for-ds.255764/

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>>4660960
thanks guy

>> No.4661036

>>4660963
You got it, dude. Also, Gameyob is better than Lameboy. Hold select when booting up your flashcard to get pixel perfect mode on DS software (you probably knew this already).

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4661058

>>4642717
How is this? I have one of these permanently plugged into my TV.

>> No.4661060

you know emulating is illegal and also signifies that you're poor right?

>> No.4661063

>>4661060
I guess Nintendo's official Virtual Console is illegal and for poor people.

>> No.4661064

>>4644869
Only thing I know of you can use USB pads with on Wii is [spoilers]Game Cube games via Nintendon't[/spoilers]

>> No.4661067

>>4661063
I can taste the generational poverty in your bloodline.

>> No.4661068

>>4661060
I am poor.

>> No.4661071

>>4660720
>wii u a best if you want nintendo systems emulation
isn't wii just as good? plus it doesn't cost four times as much.

>> No.4661081

>>4661071
I guess the Wii U has been cracked open, so you can probably get actual HD out of it, as opposed to 480p maximum on the Wii. That said, a Wii is $10, and a Wii U is $150, so depending on what you want to play, it may not be worth it.

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>>4648463
You are a God amongst men.

>> No.4661217

>>4660676
They do output S-Video, but you need to change the video output to NTSC using anyregionchanger. This is what I have done.

Careful not to change anything else, as you can brick your wii using that app.

>> No.4661223

>>4661071
>>4661081
>the gamepad doesn't exist

>> No.4661224

>>4661223
what?

>> No.4661227

>>4661224
that's what i was saying

>> No.4661235

Which is better, Xbox or Wii for emulation? I remeber playing on my friend's hardmodded Xbox years ago, no idea how it holds up today.

>> No.4661240

>>4661235
Wii is cheaper and better, particularly if you're using a CRT. Imagine if you will, playing retro games on the duke.

>> No.4661243

>>4661227
What?

>> No.4661248

>>4661243
i know right

>> No.4661253

>>4661223
>implying the gamepad exists

>> No.4661261

>>4661253
yes

>> No.4661267

>>4661261
or does it?

>> No.4661272

>>4661267
i'm not looking for an ontological debate about it anon

>> No.4661286

>>4661272
then why is the wiiu gamepad relevant?

>> No.4661291

>>4661286
because saying the wii is
>just as good
and pointing out the price difference while not acknowledging the gamepad is hardly a fair comparison.

it's like if we were talking about ps vita vs pstv and nobody mentioned that one is tethered to a tv and one is portable.

>> No.4661296
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4661296

This thread took a strange turn

>> No.4661304

>>4661291
in terms on emulaytin, the pad is useless though.

>> No.4661306

>>4661291
>Implying the gamepad is worth $140
>Implying the gamepad is actually fun to play emulated games on

>> No.4661308

>>4661067
I can smell the disgusting retardation from your shitpost.

>> No.4661313

>>4644719
Breath of the Wild
Mario Kart 8
Super Smash Bros
Bayonetta 2
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Pikmin 3
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Definitive version of the game, basically)
Yoshi's Woolly World
Splatoon
Pokkén (no, really, it's good)
Sm4sh
Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Super Mario Maker
Captain Toad: Tresaure Tracker

And this is only going by memory

Really anon, it can be a pretty long list and i'm leaving out experiments and third party ports.

And then you have Wii backwards compatibility, Nintendont and a pretty long list of emulators via Retroarch (Wii U version of Retroarch has an special emphasis on input lag)

It's a nice emulation machine for flat panels. It only needs a working PSX emulator and it will be perfect.

Basically, is a flawed but great little machine.

>> No.4661315

>>4644719
>>4661313

Ok, posted Sm4sh twice. Sorry.

>> No.4661318

>>4661304
>useless
what? no.
>>4661306
>Implying the gamepad is worth $140
no, it's not.
>>4661313
>goes back to emulating nds on wii u

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>>4661318
>goes back to emulating nds on wii u

This too. Fuck me how could i forget it?

>> No.4661340

>>4642789
I see that you don't care much for emulation, very well.
Nobody told you to join this thread.

That being said, You can fuck off to a thread that is more to your liking, or you can shut the fuck up, since you have no meaningful input. You fickle asshole.

>> No.4661345

>>4661330
>b-but the gamepad is useless

>> No.4661361

I think the point is that even though the WiiU may have some positive points, it has no 240p support and is still very expensive even used. The WiiU is really only for hardcore Nintendo fans still, unless you find one at a garage sale it's not worth it for a casual gamer who just wants an emulation box.

>> No.4661373

>>4661361
still the best box for emulating nintendo systems.
not the best general purpose box, sure.

>> No.4661379

>>4661361
Both sides of the argument are right, basically, i own a Wii U and it would ve less valuable for me if it weren't for rom injection and emulation.

>> No.4661413

>>4661373
If you're limited to using a flatscreen, then sure, it probably is. Otherwise I can't agree.

>> No.4661419

>>4661413
believe, i'm a supporter of crt and scanlines etc, i own a pvm and a trinitron for my classic systems but what do you think is a better emulation box for nintendo systems? wii u is all inclusive for every nintendo system, portables and home consoles.

>> No.4661425

Are WiiUs even going to skyrocket in price?

>> No.4661432

>>4661425
Yes they will. Since Wii U production ended in 2017 and the console really depends on the gamepad, i bet its price will Skyrocket on 2020 or so.

>> No.4661436

>>4661425
As the amount of ports to Switch increase i think demand will drop. The main issue is the amount of consoles sold was so low that it could potentially be a collectors-only item in the future.

>> No.4661452

>>4661432
fug

>> No.4661464

>>4661432
Wii U production actually ended in mid 2016.

>> No.4661467

>>4661464
I stand corrected.

>> No.4661479

>>4642196
on a related note:
are modchip for wii actually needed for anything, or can everything be done with softmods?
i.e. regionfree, booting backups

>> No.4661487

>>4661479
All softmods, absolutely no need for hardmods.

>> No.4661493

>>4661487
This. Although it took me several hours spread across a few days to get everything working.

t. written in everything from ASM to Haskell

>> No.4661504

>>4661493
Yeah it's a huge pain in the ass to do everything. I usually just do HBC and call it a day. one of my two Wiis I bothered rigging up for Wii backups, but I never actually play them so I wouldn't bother again.

>> No.4661508

>>4661487
>>4661493
>>4661504
nice, thanks.

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>>4661419
>believe, i'm a supporter of crt and scanlines etc, i own a pvm and a trinitron for my classic systems but what do you think is a better emulation box for nintendo systems? wii u is all inclusive for every nintendo system, portables and home consoles.

I have the Wii & N64. With the system configured, I have access to every game I ever wanted made for a Nintendo system with very little effort....Except some of the wii games. I hate the waggle horseshit. But for Gamecube, it is exceptional to be able to boot from SD or USB disc drive. What has been done for wii homebrew is nothing short of amazing. My kids loved it, then I got a wii u, and they loved that. It gathers dust now too. I lost every high powered PC in the house to these new steam gamers lol.

I wish I had done this shit when they were using the wii years ago. It would have saved lots of headache and broken discs.

I will give credit. The systems are built like tanks. After it was all assessed, the only broken component was a shot nun-chuck. Years of heavy abuse by kids with no care in the world, and I was impressed. I put it in the survivors shrine.

>> No.4661579

>>4661576
i'm not sure why you posted this post.

>> No.4661617

>>4661576
liked, subscribed and shared!

>> No.4661729

>tfw never owned anything past 6th gen but recently started buying thrift store wiis cuz they're so cute and hackable
Up to 4 or 5 now I think.

>> No.4661732

>>4644446
I bought an LoZ Wii U for $100 locally

I was excited as fuck, modded it, installed every Wii U game that looked good, then I installed every good VC game possible

plug into CRT through component to BNC
What the fuck
>limited RGB range
>16:9
>no 240p support on all VC (all run at 480i)
It looks like shit, and CFW was buggy anyway

sold it immediately, back to my Wii and just injected my own VC titles

>> No.4661735

>>4661729
Post tower

>> No.4661738

>>4643258

>It also plays Wii

omg really??

>> No.4661740

>>4661732
>limited RGB range
>16:9
>no 240p support on all VC (all run at 480i)
oh ninty, you so crazy

>> No.4661746

>>4661732
It's from 2012. How long are CRTs supposed to be supported?

>> No.4661757

>>4661746
these flaws occur via hdmi, too.
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1208264#p1208264

>> No.4661760

>>4661746
>mirroring gamepad screen too the Pii U so limited to 16:9
>can change to 480i and 4:3 in settings but doesnt matter for VC games
>limited color space has anything to do with supporting CRT's
>VC games running at dog shit smeared resolution when they ran at 240p just fine on the Wii

>> No.4661784

>>4661760
>limited color space has anything to do with supporting CRT's
This is done because most LCD TVs use a limited color space, if you send a full color space to your average TV you'll get crushed blacks. The WiiU only runs into problems when using a CRT or computer monitor , but I think most monitors have some sort of HDMI black compensation.

>> No.4661804

>>4661784
>black compensation

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>>4642717
I too worry about my gamepad bring detected by radar.

>> No.4661849

>>4648698
Looks comfortable for, say, platformer, games you'll be pressing a direction most of the time, looks like shit for making accurate movements in say fighting game special attacks.

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>>4661576
>blogposting

>> No.4662340

I'm extremely new to Wii hacking. I just dug out my old system that hasn't been touched in nearly a decade and it's on version 3.3U. Should I leave it on that version or update it to the newest for installing Homebrew Channel and other stuff? What do I gain or lose depending on the version I use?

>> No.4662356

>>4642283
Not even as a joke.

>> No.4662362

>>4643258
Seriously thinking of getting a Wii now.

>> No.4662415

>>4662340
Update it to the latest, there's no real advantage to keeping it on a lower version AFAIK. After that, download this https://please.hackmii.com/ and put it on an SD card. Head to the notifications thing in the bottom right (you might have to go back a day or two) and click the icon. Follow the instructions onscreen from there and you're set.

>> No.4662437

>>4662415
Alright cool, thanks

Do I still get to keep my previous game purchases after the hack? Will I be banned from using the store once it's hacked?

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>>4661735
K, muh wiis.

>> No.4662454

>>4662437
You're totally good. They can apparently detect WADs that are installed after the fact and delete them, but they can't do anything with your existing purchases and your shop account isn't connected with any other Nintendo account system. Not like it'll matter in about a year's time, anyway.

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4662606

I've been playing my Wii using a GameCube controller, but recently I'm feeling like buying a Classic Pro controller. An original one, of course.

How do you feel about them, generally? I don't really like the fact that it has to connect to a Wiimote, but maybe it's not that bad. Has anyone else been on the same boat?

>> No.4662707

>>4662454
Nice, now I just need to figure out how to install all these wads I have now

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>>4646145
>Dont know if its been mentioned
There is a number of controllers that plug into the wiimote, including the official NES & Snes mini controllers.

>> No.4662984

>>4662606
>I don't really like the fact that it has to connect to a Wiimote,
I never understand this. You're already using a wired controller, whats the fucking difference?

>> No.4663010

>>4662606
>I don't really like the fact that it has to connect to a Wiimote, but maybe it's not that bad.
it's not like you have any other options, do you?

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>>4662606
Classic Controller is a SNES controller with analog triggers and sticks

Classic Controller pro loses the analog triggers and has a better grip

Both are expensive and hard to find. The normal CC has the nostalgic form factor, but it's uncomfortable compared to the pro and the analog triggers are underused. The pro version is the way to go

>>4662984
Maybe the GC ports support a limited number of inputs in the controller? The Classic controller has 3 more buttons compared to the GC controller (L, minus and Home) As a matter of fact, the Classic Controller was presented behind closed doors as usable for backwards compat. but then Nintendo backpedaled, that's why the original CC has two stage analog triggers.

>> No.4663027

>>4662606
>>4663021
I forgot. About how i feel about the CC pro, it's comfy, i use it to play a number of Wii and Wii U games too because the grips help with the sticks. The normal CC is nice if you're going to use it with 2D games only.

Also, it's a nice controller to use with Capcom vs SNK 2 via Nintendont (in fact, it's the best option for that game and Bloody Roar)

>> No.4663054

>>4663021
I'm saying the complaint that the controller is plugged into the remote is silly. I see people mention it all the time as if it's even noticeable

>> No.4663059

>>4663054
Oh, sorry, i misunderstood... Yeah, it's a silly complaint.

>> No.4663060

So is Mednafen the best solution for playing tg16 games on the wii?

>> No.4663063

So what do I do if my system doesn't have gc controller ports?
Is there an alternative way to connect a gc controller?
I'm asking because I can load gc games from my external hdd, but can't actually play them.

>> No.4663064

>>4663063
doesn't the official gc-adapter work with it?

>> No.4663065

>>4663064
The one for wii u?
Will that work on the original wii?

>> No.4663070

>>4663063
>>4663065
Install Nintendont and use the Wii U to GC USB adapter. It works.

>> No.4663075

>>4663054
>>4663059
No it isn't, it's incredibly inconvenient. Next time you're playing on an nes, tie a string around a cucumber or dildo and tie the other end around your controller, cause thats pretty much how it feels. All the lag of wireless with none of the convenience.

>> No.4663079

>>4663075
You get less than 1ms of lag with both the wiimote and the classic controller.

>> No.4663083

>>4663075
Also, i play every single day like that, both retro and curren games. Zero inconveniences. Either you're a whiny bitch or petty as fuck.

>> No.4663086

>>4663075
then get a wii-pc-adapter and use nintendont.

>> No.4663089

>>4663075
Are you playing while standing up or something? What the fuck are you doing that you can tell the wiimote is even thete?

>> No.4663135

>>4642196
My laptop with its keyboard or an USB controller works fine for me and makes me happy

>> No.4663179

>>4663135
Why do you answer yourself, OP?

>> No.4663194
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4663194

>>4642196
make sure to get the newest possible RVL-001 (2010ish) for the upgraded DAC, otherwise ...

>> No.4663197
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4663197

>>4663194
you end up with slight worse image quality.
I.e. notice the slight blur around the dudes hair when switching between the images.

further info:
http://web.archive.org/web/20170629014942/https://assemblergames.com/threads/wii-rvl-001-wii-rvl-101-gamecube-and-wii-u-video-quality-test.54445/
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1067310#p1067310
http://bitbuilt.net/forums/index.php?threads/shanks-wii-super-thread.66/

>> No.4663206

>>4663194
>>4663197
I don't know dude, I can't see a difference between those two images other than the text on the bottom right.

>> No.4663221

>>4663206
it's very minor, yes.
another area where I can immediately make it out when comparing the images is around the left hand.

From the shmups-link:
>You can get a revision 40 or 60 from a white shell, but you will not find a revision 01, 20, or 30 in a red, black, or light blue wii.

So if you can get your hands on a non-white rvl-001, it's an added bonus.

>> No.4663230

>>4663194
what the fuck is any of that you just said

>> No.4663241

>>4663194
>>4663197
>>4663221
This sounds almost like reaching snake-oil levels of visual difference. I'll stick with my 2007 original console for now

>> No.4663257

>>4663241
seriously. The word autistic is getting worthless but that the only word that works in these cases.
"Be sure to hunt for a specific revision so you can get absolutely no difference in visuals."
Wow

>> No.4663270
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4663270

>>4663257
>>4663241
>>4663206
>helo im blind kthx

>> No.4663282

>>4663270
An absolutely retardedly small difference. Not even worth noticing.
>hello im an anal autist kthx

>> No.4663284

>>4663194
>>4663197
Is this the reason so many people complained that a Wii playing Gamecube games over component was blurrier than a real Gamecube over component?

>> No.4663294

>>4663270
My favorite game! Colored Bars on the Screen 2: Return of the Fucking Nothing

>> No.4663306

>>4663284
nah, gc still slightly better than the newer wii.
>>4663294
wtf are you guys so anal about this?
when one is going to BUY a wii now, why not go for the best possible option?
sure, on a CRT you won't see the difference, but come 4K-scaler-linedoubler-gigamega-converters, that slightly blurry digital-analog-conversion is going to be blown up and become quite noticeable.

>> No.4663307

>>4663284
Yes.

>> No.4663316

>>4642283
i bought one of those n hooked it up. it asked for crefit card info before i could do anything. i boxed it back up n returned it the very next day. never again.

>> No.4663332

>>4663197
>https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1067310#p1067310
better link with pictures:
http://web.archive.org/web/20161225092829/https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51789
shit's obvious to me tbqhfams

>> No.4663342

>>4663306
Why the fuck would you hook up a Wii to that though?
The whole issue with it was that it was the only non-HD console that gen. Why get so nit-picky about nothing.
Just buy a Wii and play it Christ you people

>> No.4663352

>>4648079
>He's a friend of mine for life but he's so fucking retarded and annoying.

i have one of those. his name is tim

>> No.4663360

>>4663342
The difference between an old Wii outputting 480i CVBS and a new Wii outputting 480p YPbPr is night and day in visual quality.

>> No.4663368

>>4663360
>the difference between version 1.0 running composite and version 1.01 running component and double the resolution is night and day!

>> No.4663372

>two wii remote versions
>several console-revisions with pros/cons for each
>regional differences
why is there always a catch with ninty...

>> No.4663373

>>4663368
Yep. It's a Wii, so why care about quality right?

>> No.4663405

>>4663372
You're aware that every single console goes by several revisions, right? Controllers too

Look at Sega with the Genesis for example

>> No.4663416

>>4663054
I don't particularly care about the wiimote as dongle. The dealbreaker is having to keep the stupid thing charged. I set my wii to boot straight into the HBC specifically to avoid using wiimotes at all.
>>4663079
>You get less than 1ms of lag with both the wiimote and the classic controller.
Please link me to your source for this information. My testing gives me a rough estimate of >8ms.
>>4663306
>sure, on a CRT you won't see the difference, but come 4K-scaler-linedoubler-gigamega-converters
I understand wanting to get the best unit you can given the choice, but the main reason to get a wii is it's 240p output for CRTs. If you're using a flatscreen then some kind of computer makes more sense.

>> No.4663419

>>4663306
>sure, on a CRT you won't see the difference
You can see the difference on a CRT, especially a high end one.

>> No.4663430

How to play N64 Era Rare games without graphical glitches and slow downs on the Switch?

>> No.4663504

>>4663430
On Switch? Hope Nintendo releases remastered virtual console n64 games. That's your only hope

>> No.4663541

Is a hacked Wii U just as good as a hacked Wii?

>> No.4663543

>>4663221
>So if you can get your hands on a non-white rvl-001, it's an added bonus.
Pic related. Bought for kids new. Was the special edition model. Put SNES emulation on it right after the warranty expired, and never modded any more until recently. I checked the model number before I paid for it.

I also went out of my way to get the Zelda controller to use with my cell phone.....to hook snes mini controller to. Yes it works. I had the Zelda gold controller game since new. Somewhat a waste if you ask me but It was worth the price of the controller.


>>4663241
>This sounds almost like reaching snake-oil levels of visual difference.
Psx had a similar thing with later models having a different video chip which removed banding. There are some that have both the new DAC and the 1001 audio from factory, but are also rare.

It is as much visual, as collectible. IF you are going to buy a used video game system it is always best to shop around and get exactly what you want. Time is on your side and you will get what you want.

>>4663430
>How to play N64 Era Rare games
Get a N64 and a OFFICIAL Everdrive 64. Bare minimum. I have found no acceptable way to emulate. I looked into "VC injection" but think it is out side of my ability to follow instructions. It may work for some N64 games on the wii, but doubtful.

>> No.4663546
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4663546

>>4663543
^
This guy again. Forgot my pic related.

>> No.4663549

>>4663070
Will try that, thanks anon.

>> No.4663553

>>4663372
xbox 360 went through like 9 different hardware revisions with three distinct case designs

PS3 had 5 hardware revisions and 3 distinct case designs. It also started with a controller that lacked rumble features and then later reintroduced it.

>> No.4663557

>>4663541
Aside from the lack of gamecube ports you can do all of the same things on a hacked WiiU

>> No.4663563

>>4663557
>you can do all of the same things on a hacked WiiU
Does this process add the same functions to the Wii-u?

I am the red-wii poster from earlier. My kid still has a wii-u he don't use. Does this allow for copied wii-u games direct to the hard drive? Or is that not a thing yet?

>> No.4663569

>>4663563
Apparently you can hack the WiiU as well.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-community-noob-guide-to-wii-u-hacking.451297/

The vWii part of the WiiU has been hacked since almost the beginning but the WiiU side I wasn't sure about.

>> No.4663574

>>4663557
>you can do all of the same things on a hacked WiiU
see >>4661732

>> No.4663581
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4663581

>>4663569
>The vWii part of the WiiU has been hacked since almost the beginning but the WiiU side I wasn't sure about. I will wait until NUS is giving system software updates before I rip it apart. I know when I looked at it last, it was the same functionality as the Wii, but with more steps.

>>4663557
>you can do all of the same things on a hacked WiiU
Not on a CRT in standard definition you cannot. They both can do "HD" Video output, but only one can do SD.

>> No.4663621

>>4663541
It's better

Emulation compatibility goes up to CPS3 and you get NDS emulation via injection. PlayStation emulation is there via WiiSXR+vWii overclocking but compatibility is very spotty.

N64 emulation is better via injection, though still pretty spotty.

Also it's easier to hack than a Wii, you only need to buy a DS game from the eShop.

Recently has been made possible to install Wii and GameCube games on the Wii U menu and play them with the Wii U Gamepad.

>> No.4663626

>>4663581
>Not on a CRT in standard definition you cannot

I know /vr/ is all about CRT and whatnot, but let's get back to earth for a moment, it's easier to get a 1080p flat panel than a CRT nowadays and it also fits better anywhere so yeah, while looking for an emulation machine people should not be looking for one that can do 240 unless they already have a CRT screen, wich is getting harder day by day.

>> No.4663643

>>4663621
>Also it's easier to hack than a Wii,
Letterbomb for Wii is as easy as it can get.

>> No.4663691

>>4663626
The only reason to get a Wii as an emu box is for its 240p output to CRT. This quality makes it superior for that purpose. If you aren't going to use it with a CRT (specifically for emulation) then it's pointless. It's silly to compare it with the WiiU on this basis. WiiU can't compete on analog and the Wii can't compete on digital, full stop.

>> No.4663703
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4663703

>>4663643
That's only the entry point, after that you have to install the cIOS and whatnot, and you can easily shit the bed if you don't pay attention. On Wii U once you install Haxchi of CBHC using the internet brower entrypoint you're set, and the only risk you have to avoid when possible is installing things to NAND.

I've hacked my share of Wiis and Wii Us, and the former always gets me nervous.

>> No.4663706

>>4663691
Not everyone interested on retro emulation will have a CRT screen. That's a reality.

>> No.4663713

I get 1frame on my raspberry pi 2. Wii shills btfo

>> No.4663747

>>4663194
>>4663197
another reason to maybe possibly get a late rvl-001 Wii:
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=61787

>> No.4663748

>>4663706
If you have a CRT use a Wii, if you have an LCD use a WiiU. I think that was what he was getting at. Of course if you don't care about 240p then you have to compare the WiiU to a PC, and basically the only advantage off a WiiU in that case is the gamepad and the ability to play all 5 WiiU games that aren't on the Switch yet.

>> No.4663754

>>4663703
The cIOS installer does everything automatically if you just follow the directions. You don't even need cIOS to begin with, homebrew including nintendon't doesn't care. You only need cIOS to run Wii back ups and it's basically a one time thing.

>> No.4663756

>>4663706
Why are you on a text heavy website like this if you're functionally illiterate?

>> No.4663770

>>4663626
>it's easier to get a 1080p flat panel than a CRT nowadays
Use craigslist. Id almost guarantee that you can find a CRT closer then any store especially in a densely populated area.

Obviously you are insinuating that the mail person brings all of your stuff, and I agree shipping is expensive. However, you can get a good CRT for free or a few dollars just by shopping around.

And they look better then any lcd monitor.

>> No.4663879

>>4643870
Wouldn't it be easier to train Astronauts to be Police Officers?

>> No.4664369

>>4642283
I got a kickstarter special custom colored edition with two controllers. Switch it on only once.

>> No.4664827

Wii or shield tv?

>> No.4665039

>>4664827
wii

>> No.4666298

There are a million and one guides on how to mod your wii.

Neek, sneek, uneek, wads, wbfs, cIos, nand, emunand, usbloadergx, modmii, wiiflow.

What the fuck I even the guides that are supposed to be easy (>>4659528) I can't seem to understand. I wouldn't say I'm a computer genius but I'm definitely not computer illiterate.

Does anyone else find this super confusing? I'm trying to play wads from my external hard drive on i guess emunand? Is that how it works? I've been piecing together all sorts of different guides wherever I can find them but nothing works.

Tell me I'm not alone in this struggle

>> No.4667604

>>4666298
I followed the guides on https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/ and that seems to work fine. I don't know that I'm trying to accomplish the same goal as you, but have you tried that yet? It seems very straightforward and laid out well.

>> No.4668401

>>4667604
that's like a super basic guide and doesn't even cover some things i've had to do so far, also when running through cIOS it sets you up for failure(or at least it did for me) had to spend about an hour figuring out what to change in there.

So far from what i've seen this is the most comprehensive guide to do what I want. And i still am having some problems with non arcade games. It might just be a result of fucked cIos from previous attempts.

>> No.4668948

how can i play turbo graffix cd on wii also i can get sega cd to work but no music

>> No.4669331

RIP Wii Shop Channel. You had a good run.

>> No.4669342

What emulation device would you recommend for a wife's son?

>> No.4669374

>>4669342
his moms husband definitely won't be good to emulate.

>> No.4669403

>>4668948
Make sure you have the cue. And bin. File for the game on segacd.

For tg16 cd. Here
https://youtu.be/nmUIJAgP3zc

>> No.4669934

>>4644927
>sm4sh
ok
>wwhd
remake
>tphd
remake
>mk8
better version on switch
>smm
lol

>> No.4669948

>>4669342
I just asked my wife’s african-american fitness instructor and he recommended the Ouya

>> No.4669989

>>4669948
Hahaha!
No.

>> No.4670052

>>4661576
>my kids loved it
It's not fair, how did you even get laid with such an autistic hobby as retro gaming.

>> No.4670058

>>4669403
so sega cd roms won't work if its where all the music files are separate

>> No.4670226

>>4669331
To be fair, purchases will still be able to be made until January 2019, but buying points ends today

>> No.4670413

>>4670226
It's now on life support and in a coma. We all know it's only a matter of time before dad makes the decision to pull the plug. Grandpa isn't coming back.

>> No.4670495

>>4670058

No, they'll work. You just need to have the audio files referenced in the cue file - without that the emulator won't know what to play.

>> No.4670625

if i already have shit on my wii (savefiles, wiiware) will they fuck up if i hack it? im pretty anal about that kinda stuff

>> No.4671079

>>4670625
I'm told it shouldn't affect your existing downloads/saves, but you probably won't be able to use the Shop Channel after.

>> No.4671090

>>4670625
>>4671079
Won't touch your saves or downloaded games at all. You can still use the Shop Channel too, and there's really nothing they can do about it, but that's not relevant anymore since they disabled the ability to add Wii Points today.

>> No.4671107

>>4669331
Good thing the system is hacked to hell or I’d be upset about this

>> No.4671152

>>4671107
Last I heard some EU/JP exclusive stuff remained undumped, but that was a few days ago. Best case, a few people stepped up to the plate and got them, but worst case, we might actually lose stuff forever.

>> No.4671168

>>4671152
i know its not vr buy do you know if the game Onslaught was dumped wouldn't mind having that game

>> No.4671205

>>4642196
>>4643258
Why don't you just use a fucking PC? You fucktards just like buying useless shit don't you

>> No.4671225

>>4671205
Did you even read the thread? The whole advantage of the Wii is it can do native 240p. Modern PC GPU's can't do this, however you may be able to overclock a CRT computer monitor to 240p/120Hz. This is a finicky option though, as modern Windows hates anything 480p or lower.

>> No.4671254

>>4671205
Yes.

>> No.4671303

>>4671168
I believe everything in the US shop has been dumped, so yeah, that's floating around somewhere.

>> No.4671617

>>4671205
>You fucktards just like buying useless shit don't you
Yeah, that $20 at a pawn shop was a real wallet buster.

>> No.4671691

>>4671617
for pc masterrace it is :^)

>> No.4672569

>>4671691
Don't try to pretend that the hardware costs for PC gaming aren't astronomical, you lying piece of shit. Try pirating a graphics card sometime

>> No.4673193

>>4671617
as if they all dont use ebay to price shit these days

>> No.4673224

>>4671205
GAMECUBE

>> No.4673306

>>4673193
Your Local Pawn Shop aka Unlicensed eBay Franchise #7865194

>> No.4673495

>>4642196
Probably going to get a Wii very soon to play Gamecube games on it, and maybe other stuff too. What do you recommend me to install on it apart from Nintendont?

>> No.4673647

>>4672569
case in point. :*)

>> No.4673661

Raspberry pi with recalbox or lakka