/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[03-10] English game files of id Software's Doom RPG series from mobile available, emulator required
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

[03-08] Ken Silverman released the BUILD2 engine
https://youtu.be/3qtmkkdND6M
http://advsys.net/ken/buildsrc/build2.htm

[03-08] Fall of Triton released; a megawad in the style of Doom's PlayStation port
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/99788-psx-doom-fall-of-triton-out-now/

[03-06] Anon map release: Loads Of Time (WIP)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/26yq48n9r50hobn/loads%20of%20time.wad?dl=1

[03-05] More about early builds of DNF
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/the-2001-unreal-engine-version-of-duke-nukem-forever-was-90-complete-had-rpg-and-horror-elements/

[03-04] Anon speedmaps a deathmatch level
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qy7dwdnp4nwlofz/SpeedOfDeath.wad

[03-04] Ex-3D Realms staff have early builds of both DNF and DN3D, but Randy Pitchford is practically blocking their releases
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/have-any-of-the-builds-of-duke-nukem-forever-ever-leaked.120567/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4618653/#4622548

[03-03] Talan.wad update
http://www.mediafire.com/file/iw60luu0hgaq5z5/Talan.pk3

[03-02] Duke Nukem 3D TC 'Total Meltdown' released
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/9918-release-duke-nukem-total-meltdown-tc-v10/

[03-01] Trailer for Ion Maiden, a game using the Build engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcAwzusZUrQ

[02-25] Anon release: Talan.wad, a partial conversion
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fvyse09knxhwj1k/Talan.wad

[02-24] Anon map release: Breaking Point
https://mega.nz/#!udgS3DKT!YpoF8htxCYfbmLWvWjA9pdnqobFMUrsrnlLebm1dd3Q

[02-21] Anon map update: Dance of Death fixes
https://mega.nz/#!TcQ00agC!1ofVphEcB5OwbSa2qug5gCvWlQbGEXL-1AmoH3rwSeo

[02-20] Anon map update: Wild West Deathmatch 2
http://www.mediafire.com/file/b46c25t152x5duw/WWDM2.wad

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Build 2 more like Will do!

Doom RPG friend here. Thanks for putting it in the sticky my dude.

I just finished the ion Maiden preview levell last night with a friend. Hope it doesn't take much longer before release because I have a mighty need

>>4638670
i tried to run DRPG with KEmulator, it got stuck on the sound select.

>>4638675
Q3, baby

>>4638670
I remember there also being Symbian OS version of DoomRPG that was far superior to java version in every department

>>4638653
>Shogun Nukem
That would have made an amazing guest appearance in one of the Shadow Warrior games.

>>4638678
If you're trying to do this on PC, I've always found the best way of playing it is through the use of PPSSPP and using the JavaME emulator for that. Not the best solution but it does work without much issue from what I remember.

>>4638706
alright, thank's, i wanna record it, and i'm not putting up with the android screen recording bullcrap.

So how's that thief map of yours going anon?

>>4638734
my what now

I remember last thread someone asking about Wolf3D mods, came across these two videos just now that showcases a variety of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXh55qd8QEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVaMIhbA2VY

>>4638706
>layers of emulation

>>4638753
At least he isn't the guy who tried to emulate the Sega Saturn on a Vita via DOSBox.

>>4638678
I suggest using the j2me loader running off of android. It's the only thing I tested it with and it's working good for me.

>>4638773
>>4638678
You can also run Symbian versions on Symbian SDKs. Both are still floating around.
Unfortunately, no Symbian version of Doom 2 RPG.

>>4638687
I saw that. I tried looking for a copy online but it's either really hard to find or I'm looking for the wrong keywords. If you got a version I can put it in the download pack. I'm planning on updating it if I can find superior versions but from the small selection of versions that were working or in English it was much more of a beggars can't be choosers situation putting the collection together

>doing DRLA on a MegaWAD with pistol restarts every ten levels

>>4638734
you're doing Trickster's work, anon

>>4638826
Now try drla without autosaves

How's GMOTA, mister Kegan?

>>4638734
I never got into mapping for thief, even though it's like my favoritest game.

How's yours going?

Has Build 2 made much of a splash?

Does anyone think things will happen with it?

Lads, what is the best track from the DOOM OST?
and why is it 'intermission from doom'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVRbEvPvF7A

>>4639124
intermission is like a commercial break from TV, a pause if you will, it's your break from doom.

>>4639124
Sign of Evil or Shawn's Got The Shotgun.

>>4638956
it wasn't even half a day since the last post
>>4638557

are you having a giggle, mate

>>4639124
you're one map off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLGMwPAjrYM

that's a wrap

>>4639180
sick

>>4639180
That's pretty edgy.

>>4639180
This is terrible, but I laughed anyways.

>>4639180
The animation is South Park tier.

>>4639206
seem fitting

What are some pet peeves of yours when it comes to maps. Mine is archviles on the first map.

is it possible to recreate sinking/titanic stuff in doom?
like, a liquid is rising and you must get higher and shit?

>>4639214
Mine are cave areas that look confusing enough to even look odd in the Automap
As if it was just a bunch of red and yellow curves and circles, because at least hell/tech based areas can be more "structured" and consistent

>>4639217
it's likely easiest to make everything else sink into a liquid floor. cf. Mapping While High On Mountain Dew (dmp2012 map21)

Sacred Ground re uploaded later today if everything works out.

>>4639180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wHIMljreUE

>playing shadow warrior
>kill female ninja with sword
>"you half a man you used to be"
what did lo wang mean by this

Reverie goddamnit

This is what it feels like to wait for Mordeth Episode 2 and updates to wads that you like.

Anyone know what WAD this is? Reverse image searching didn't help

>>4639295
i'm gonna guess epic 2
may be wrong

>>4639295
>>4639296
It's Epic2.

>>4639296
>>4639305
Thanks anons

>>4639180
When do the swat members come down through the roof and kill you?

>>4639317
Type resurrect into the console and then god.

>tfw there's a Doom general on /aco/

>>4639340
No one loves Doom more than /vr/ but second place goes to /co/

One time we had a Guardians of the Galaxy thread that turned into a full-on celebration of classic Doom WADs

Recommend me some Doom YouTubers

Is it weird that I think Doom is better looking graphically than Dick Lickem?

>>4639346
ICARUSLIV3S and A Jolly Wanker are the only ones I'm subscribed to.

>>4639346
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBAkqnAkbqssnoxLiNa-_dQ/videos

>>4639346
Don't you mean DoomTubers?

>>4639353
Obviously it's YouDoomers.

>>4639351
>Plugging your own shitty Youtube channel

I see what you're trying to do..

>>4639357
No hostility in this thread please.

>>4639360
Not being hostile. Just calling it as I see it.

>>4639357
>>4639361
he asked a question and got an answer

>>4639361
Calling someone's youtube channel "shitty" is pretty hostile to me.

>>4638981
Im new to thief mapping, but I'm learning as i go. DromEd feels kinda stiff to use, but its rly fun when you get a grip on it after a few tutorials.
Goes nice so far

>This is the 30th IP in the thread.

did PEanon ever come back

>>4639367
What is with Doom generals here being full of whiny "be niiiice" dinks and overzealous thread mods that delete every single post that they don't like?

I mean, Jesus Christ we're talking about games where you wantonly slaughter everything in sight and everyone involved with the discussion is a "you hurt muh fee-fees" bich boi.

The fuck is wrong with you people?

>>4639374
You totally weren't banned in the past for being an immense faggot in every community you're in.

>>4639347
Doom has more interesting textures, and more abstract level design. Duke's got a more """realistic""" look, so it can seem plain in comparison. Build supported more variables in architecture, so Duke has that going for it. I put them on par with each another.

>>4639371
What does that matter? That it means something? That kind of post is the kind of dumb, baseless stuff you'd see in /pol/. You know, the whole "1 post by this IP means something's afoot!".
>>4639374
Because you're too used to being an edgy douchebag on /v/ and other boards so you think all of 4chan must be as much of a cesspool as those places. 4chan has warped your sense of decency that you're actually shocked when you see anyone acting like an actually normal human fucking being.

>>4639374
the question shouldn't be 'why are you pruning these kinds posts' but rather 'why do you have such low tolerance for these kinds of posts'

>>4639382
>Cyber being a hypocrite again

LMFAO

>>4639374
>I mean, Jesus Christ we're talking about games where you wantonly slaughter everything
Contrary to popular belief, liking something doesn't mean you have to share its ideals in real life, otherwise Jack Thompson would be right about GTA turning its players into psychopaths.

>>4639382
do you ever do anything besides boogeymanning and being a fucking hypocrite?

>>4639385
You can't just accuse anyone you don't like into being someone you don't like.

>>4639391
What boogeyman and what hypocrisy did I use in my post?

>>4639374
because demons aren't real and even if they were they'd deserve it for being demons

>>4639392
Your posts read exactly like one of that gutterslut.

>>4639374
/vr/ in general from the start wanted to "be niiiice" because /v/ is an awful place. Believe it or not, there are more boards than /v/, /pol/, and /b/ with completely different mentalities.

Whats wrong with us? We don't think every board has to be a shithole.

>>4639397
Well excuse me because I don't know who you're talking about. What do you mean "the same"? Give me an example from the archive so I can compare.

>>/vr/

>>4639398
They're either a clueless expat, a known shitter or a colonizer from /v/. Nevertheless they should be removed.

>>4639378
>>4639382
>>4639386
>>4639387
>>4639398
lol, butthurt babby bich bois detected.

and he reveals himself

>>4639340
Yeah, there's always one. At this point I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually have much to do with Doom, given I don't remember seeing any Donut Steel named "demon" girls being roommates in Doom.

>>4639415
>At this point I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually have much to do with Doom
It has as much to do with Doom as /doom/'s favourite OCs like the Demonsteele girls and Crash.

>>4638654
Sacred Ground redone gameplay and changed a few things. I hope you like it better and give me a comment or suggestions. Thanks.

https://mega.nz/#!WWZS0bjJ!LC_AcG_LlJEt1hcMbcIz7RQAJzeeGurOtXsjK1LH2Xc

>>4639351
greetings fellow dwironman participant. i looked at a couple of these but they have an echo/delay that makes them sound like they're played through a long tube, this can't be intentional?

>>4639417
Crash isn't an OC, though; she's id material.

>>4639395
I don't know, the fact that IP count mysteriously increases every time you get assaulted by someone because you say something absolutely fucking retarded every thread?

the fact that your only defense against these perceived shitposters you enjoy replying to so much is to accuse them of crossboarding and to cry out for a janitor afterwards?

that you derail threads more often than those people you intend to call out?

just fucking report him

I wish levels were more comfy

>>4638653
>Doom RPG series
>https://doomrpg.weebly.com/
Wait, what? When did that happen? That's fucking amazing! I always wanted to play these!

>>4639440
Somebody report this fucking faggot.

>>4639458
how about you let the big kids post instead of chimping out every time gives honest advice.

Does anyone know if the format of a Quake 2 BSP on the N64 and Playstation is the same as the one on the PC? I suppose that question would extend to any 90's PC fps from that era that also got a console port (Duke Nukem 64/Total Meltdown, Doom 64, Hexen, Quake 64, etc.).

Something that has interested me is the games lobotomy put to the Saturn. I found an interview somewhere that said they used their own format, and had a tool that could convert duke nukem maps, but those maps and the quake maps still had to be greatly modified to work.

I'm learning programming, and i'd like to make a "simple" software renderer for a 3D space. The issue that I have had is finding tutorials that have a practical approach instead of a theoretical one.

>>4639340

You only just now knew?
They're pretty cool people.

>>4639437
>I don't know, the fact that IP count mysteriously increases every time you get assaulted by someone because you say something absolutely fucking retarded every thread?
The problem is that you're still assuming I'm this boogeyman of yours, stop acting like a child and prove your claims using the archive like I suggested in the other post. What boogeyman and hypocrisy is there? What does it matter that the IP count increases?
>the fact that your only defense against these perceived shitposters you enjoy replying to so much is to accuse them of crossboarding
Tell me with a straight face that this post >>4639374 doesn't scream "I'm not from here", you can't. The post made it clear that he's baffled at how moral people in this thread are, compared to other boards, and all the other replies to that post agree. Logic dictates that he's indeed a crossboarder, he made it pretty clear himself. You're being dishonest and biased if you claim otherwise.
>that you derail threads more often than those people you intend to call out?
I don't recall accusing people of derailing the thread? Maybe because I'm not this boogeyman of yours?

Hell the fact that you're using a boogeyman makes you a hypocrite.

people are allowed to disagree with each other you knee-jerk niggers

>>4639498
continuing on from this, people are allowed to call other channels "shitty"
people are allowed to call other work "shitty"
people are allowed to say "stop fucking doing this"
and, more importantly, you don't have to reply to every goddamn post you don't like with "THIS IS BAIT" or "YOU MUST BE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE HEH HEH WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE ;) ;)" or "AND HE REVEALS HIMSELF I'M INTENTIONALLY BEING VAAAAGUE"

we're not /v/, no, but lately /vr/ has been filled with all sorts of limp-wristed handwringing bullshit
seriously between castlevania threads, the shmup threads, the GCCX threads, and now the doom threads people have been fucking jumping at shadows
it's precisely because we're not /v/ and because we don't have to deal with the same bullshit, people are getting complacent and thin goddamn skins and crying out for tiny-ass nothing offenses

play the goddamn games
so fucking what if someone said another youtube channel was shitty?
sage for super goddamn off-topic

>>4639515
Fuck off, hypocrite.

>>4639515
This post will be deleted. :)

>>4639526
And you'll die unloved and unmourned, Cyber. You won't even have a grave yo uour name.

I never had a problem with people promoting their own work

>all posts are deleted except for >>4639374 who is actually bashing mods
?????
Did I enter a bizarro /doom/?

is golden souls 2 out yet?

>>4639538
note that >>4639357 and >>4639361 aren't deleted

it's interesting that it's the aforementioned hangwringing over them that apparently caused the issue, and not actually the "being mean :(((" part

>>4639374
My stranger interests don't make me a sexual predator in real life, likewise, my interest in weapons and violent games has not yet put me in armed combat, actually something I'd like to avoid indefinitely.

I mean most of the dipshit 12 year olds who are really impressed by the Brutal Doom taunts aren't actually like that if you get to know them as people.
/vr/oom's attitude of "Don't be abrasive and rude for no reason" I think is fair, this place doesn't have to be shit.

If I wanted shit threads about Doom I would go to /v/.

>>4639561
>My stranger interests don't make me a sexual predator

Spotted the cartoon porn pedo.

>>4639431
this is a small/medium sized map with around 100 monsters. it is highly detailed - i can see why you burnt yourself out making it! i managed to max it on the third attempt. first time i reached the yellow key but ran out of health in the trap. second time i was too impatient with the four mancubi. third time i got fed up and examined the map in an editor to see what was ahead. overall my criticisms would be (a) too dark, can't see what i'm fighting (b) not enough health / little room for error (c) too cramped, bumping into bits of architecture all the time.

demo:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03709831324192232237

>>4639572
sorry, this is long, it split into 7 parts

>>4639347
I think Doom has a very distinct heavy metal album cover aesthetic that not a lot of other shooters have.

Duke Nukem sort of has it's own aesthetic (pseudo realism), it's very much doing a different thing than Doom.

>>4639576

>>4639532
It's the second time I've seen peole deliberately try to drive out content creators. Happened last thread and was sadly succesful I'm afraid.

>>4639548
my guess is that they would be proving the posts right if they deleted them to they did the opposite to avoid that and show they're still "traditional 4channers".

>>4639571
Different thing, actually. Also this varies with jurisdiction.

>>4639582

>>4639583
Those people need to fuck off and die, the only 'content creator' who needs to be driven away is Sarais.

>>4639587

>>4639584
my guess is calling youtube channels shitty is perfectly fine, and derailing a thread about how you don't like the word "shitty" isn't

occam's razor, bitch

>>4639592

>>4639597

>>4639454
Not too long ago I think. If there's an emulator for Windows about then I'll bundle it in the OP as one download.

>>4639346
captainclever is the only one that actually really like; the Evolution Of The Wad series is very indepth and thoughtful about level design and level designer's legacies. Also it's kind of fun.

Icaruslives is really boring to me.

>>4639572
Do you play with a trackball?

>>4639572
I just tried the level myself and I disagree with your complaints. It is dark in some places but I believe that and the challenge is what the creator was going for. Your gameplay shows you standing and getting hit for no reason. I am sorry.

>>4639214
D_RUNNIN and brown clouds.

For god's sake people, replace them with whatever, even something from the original iwads.
Just take the E2M1 track and the E1 or E2 skyline if you can't think of anything, it does a lot more for the presentation of your map than you might think.

>>4639634
I think the darkness has something to do with his monitor. In the demo you can see him shoot into darker areas where there is clearly no monster (on my screen).
It also looks like he's walking instead of running when he dodges sometimes.

>>4639591
>one guy criticizes another guy for shilling their youtube channel without even saying it's theirs
>>omg the trolls are actively driving away poor content creators :'(

>>4639628
no but i move the mouse forward and back to walk. i have A+S as strafe keys and run forward the right mouse button. i don't get on with WASD at all.
>>4639634
fair enough i guess. the darkness means i don't see the monsters doing their attack animations, and i have slow reactions. regardless it's just an opinion, i don't expect him to change anything.
>>4639643
yeah my monitor is pretty dark. i'm pretty sure walk dodging is an illusion though. i have autorun on, and all my strafe tics are +/-40.

>>4639646
Considering he was talking about something that happened this very weekend, and not your own autism outburst, it makes it come across as if you aren't actually here a lot, if at all.

>>4639659
I will change the darkness if the people here think it needs it.

>>4639661
i was here when the other shit happened, i was talking specifically about what happened this thread

>>4639594
lol

>>4639673
>ask for doom related yt channels
>posts doom yt related channel
not him but I still fail to see the issue.

here are a few things i noticed. they're not game-breakers or anything, just small issues and pet peeves.

the pillar one isn't un-forseen behavior maybe, but it's something that often irks players in a fire-fight. maybe that's why the dead body is there though. someone got stuck

>>4639667
here are a few things i noticed. they're not game-breakers or anything, just small issues and pet peeves.

the pillar one isn't un-forseen behavior maybe, but it's something that often irks players in a fire-fight. maybe that's why the dead body is there though. someone got stuck

>>4639721
thanks, i'll get right on it.

>>4639627
Eh, I like Icarus. It's thanks to him that I've discovered several mods and mapsets I wouldn't normally bother with.

>if you kick a head in blood and press the escape key it will spin in place midair

>>4638654
>>4639721

I tried with the latest prboom+ and gzdoom and didn't see the screwy sector. Here's the updated wad with the other fixes. Also thanks for the help as well:

https://mega.nz/#!LLxT0TIA!84UhfVzafzEniBz4YOrMEi-YV-hwtGbB61dk_AAUv0s

>>4639827
I think it's one of the build engine's quirks, how animated tiles will keep playing when paused. I think you can see that with waterfalls and fires in DN3D.

>>4639348
>A Jolly Wanker
who?

What is the bare minimum one needs to have to play Duke 3D? In the same way you have stuff like DOOM2.WAD or the id1 folder for Doom and Quake.

reverie map 31 argh

Its so annoying I got frustrated and accidently posted this picture in another board

>>4639898
the GRP file iirc

>>4639941
What board?

>>4639943
>>4639898
did it work?

>>4639887
Excuse me, I guess its "Wangcore" now.

How do I bind mousewheel to previous/next weapon in Chasm: The Rift?

>>4639986
Everything seems to be working fine, yes. Thanks!

>>4639997
can joy2key do it? I don't remember what all it's capable of.

>the java mobile id software games are packed in .rar

on one hand it seems fitting for old java mobile games
on the other hand we're in 2018

>>4639997
How do I Chasm: The Rift in Win 7?

>>4639346
>>4639357

https://www.youtube.com/user/xxxvertigoxxx/videos

You can check out my shitty channel if you want to see some FDA + Reviews

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/ihmn
tried beating this UV with no saving mid-level and it constantly frustrated the fuck out of me. made it to level 17 before accidentaly deleting the save and losing interest. somebody play it and give me a second opinion

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/unnecess
better than I expected it to be. decent gimmick-centric stuff

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/s-u/thinker
haven't played doom 1 in a while and I enjoyed revisting it's aethetic while playing this and simultaneously getting a dose of late 90's WAD quirks. surprisingly balanced for a a WAD that gives you everything but the BFG in the first level plus tons of ammo throughout

>>4640080
>.rar
>bad

Which one look better anon?

Doom - Hexen - Duke Nukem - Ion Maiden color palettes.

>>4640116
I feel like I would find these enjoyable if you had a better microphone.

>>4640089
Dos box or use the source port that recently came out

Bye bye, Reverie Map 31

Go fuck yourself!

>>4640135

using .rar is not bad
except that you could also save more space by using 7z

also, you're packing what are basically renamed .zip files, so might as well put them inside a .zip

what i'm trying to say is that you should also uninstall skulltag while you're at it

>>4640139
I'd need to see a bigger picture, I think, as in seeing it actually used among matching textures, but I'd have to say Doom or Hexen.

>>4640140

It's a pain in the dick because it's fine when there's not much game audio but as soon as shit kicks off it sounds really muddy ;/ I'll be getting a new headset soon so it'll improve at some point.

I'm curious. There's Doom marine models for all the weapons by now, so why hasn't anyone made them to where your held weapon reflects the weapon your player model has?

>>4640218
?

>>4640224

Cursed be the day when someone decided that posting a single question mark was a valid form of asking for further explanation.

>>4640218

This has been long done, look in the ZDoom forums in the Resources section, I think someone made it into a separate mod, but I could be wrong.

But I am pretty sure that at least one mod included this feature.

How do you disable rocket jumping in GZDoom?

>>4640248
Godmode. Or reduce selfdamage to 0 in any other way.

>>4640253
Fucks sake GZDoom is a piece of fucking trash as a Doom port. What the fuck is the point of porting a game if you fuck up half of what makes it act like said game without recourse? Jesus god damn tits.

>>4640254
Why are you shooting your feet with rockets, though?

>>4640248
add +nodamagethrust for the rocket
>>4640254
y u heff 2 b mad

>>4640264
>add +nodamagethrust for the rocket
I appreciate it, but that won't work for me. Which is why there's no other option than to be miffed about the whole thing.

>>4640139
>>4640210
Here's a bigger picture.

Doom - Hexen - Duke Nukem - Ion Maiden color palettes.

>>4640285
Doom or Ion Maiden.

>>4640285
Which one is the original? Doom has a couple extra details like the rough patches on the middle-right panel that could be added by hand to the other ones. Automatic palette conversions are sometimes iffy at best.

>>4640285
needs to becompared to the original
they seem to be autoconverted without cleanup,and assuch Hexen version looks cleanest, the rest havesome artifaction

A new one

Original - Doom - Hexen - Duke Nukem - Ion Maiden 32 colors each one.

>>4640321
I'm fucking retarded.

Original - Doom - Hexen - Duke Nukem - Ion Maiden 32 colors each one.

>>4640325
>direct convert to quack for shits and giggs
>literally doesn't have bright green in the palette, period
>green light is now urine

>>4640329
based quack

>>4640339
who needs antifreeze green anyway

What do you guys think about this OC I made last night?

>>4640403
> butttsauce

>>4640403
Related, but this was made by someone else.

>>4640403
looks like a retard

is the Doom RPG anon here? The PSP j2me emulation works like a charm, but the Doom 2 RPG jar you provided might be for a touch phone, since the emulator always shits itself trying to run it.

>>4640462
here is a link to a lower res version of the game, if you could include it alongside the higher res... https://www.ulozto.cz/!jpNTXFrj/doom2-176x220-jar

What would a JRPG mod for Doom entail?

>>4640474
total remaking of everything

>>4640474
Every door you open for the first time has an unskippable cutscene of sorts

>>4640474
Every time an enemy attacks you, both you and enemy get teleported into a separate plane where you exchange attacks
Every attack from both you and enemy is undodgeable and prompts a cutscene

>>4639941
What weapon mod is that?

>>4640474

MegaTen demons.

https://twitter.com/Arvydas_B/status/972801699730554881
looks kinda neat

>>4640552
i dunno what that is but it's dope as fuck

>>4638653
>>4638678
>>4639454

Doom RPG friend here. Updated the download site with a PC emulator that appears to run all games fine (and doesn't freeze on the sound menu as another anon noted) and a more compatible version of DOOM2 RPG.

If you feel it is important enough please note this update in the News section of the next thread.

Thanks!

>>4640552
I hope there isn't any fire throwing demon near it.

>>4640462
>>4640463
Doom RPG friend here. I actually just got done fixing that issue and included a new pc emulator and a more compatible version of DOOM2 RPG in the download. Thanks for the heads up though!

>>4640754
cool, looking forward to revisiting it.

>>4640757
Same here. I'm still at the earlier stages of the first DOOM RPG. The second one looks rad as hell. I love the 2d sprites on a 3d background aesthetic.

>>4640758
Doom 2 RPG, and Wolf RPG were always really impressive, they even have cutscenes and everything. I still remember how blown away i was when i saw those kinds of visuals on my tiny Sony Ericsson.

>>4638654
Ion Maiden Patch 1 is out. If you got it on Steam, the update is automatic as usual. If you got it from 3DR, you'll be sent a download link.

Important Notes:
User data is now stored in "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Ion Maiden Preview Campaign" on Windows and "~/.config/maiden" on Linux.
The save format version number has been bumped, meaning your old saves will no longer work. This may happen repeatedly during the Early Access period.

- Overall Performance Boosts!
- An occasional crash when performing random actions, including flipping lightswitches, has been fixed.
- A bug that would cause the player to sometimes switch to the wrong game mode when loading a game has been fixed.
- Optimizations to the game world logic have been made to improve performance in some circumstances and shrink savegame file sizes.
- Mouse aiming has been reworked to allow much greater precision of movement.
- The mouse axis scale sliders can now go all the way to zero.
- New "save setup" menu, allowing autosaves to be disabled and a limit to be set on the maximum number of autosaves to keep at any one time.
- Savegames can now be deleted with the Delete key.
- Keyboard bindings for aiming up, down, and returning the view to the center can now be configured.
- A key or button can now be assigned to switch to the player's previously selected weapon.
- The sizes and brightness of certain pickup items have been increased
- Armor fragments are now more visible.
- Awkward delay after SMG reload has been fixed.
- The easiest skill level should now be easier, and the hardest should now be harder
- Volume slider no longer treats 50% as 0%

>>4640508
DRLA

Which band's music would fit into Doom if they were midis?

>>4640830
metallica, pantera, alice in chains, meshuggah, and nine inch nails would be my personal picks.

Still mapping anything /vr/? It would be nice to have more mappers.

>>4640830
Megaherz
RTPN

>>4640830
I think we all know

>>4640830
Accept has a lot of good ones.

Friday. It's coming boys.

https://youtu.be/viYXORO9VH4

Just wanted to comment, I changed a few things in sacred ground to make my map a little more easier, nothing really news worthy.

https://mega.nz/#!3CRznaSY!hjJXHv-PlQgKr3LBV7LQBYG_5DL6WLUnyelD1SIOa8k

>>4640830
>>4640897
Add sepultura to my picks.

>>4641028
oh hell yes

>>4641028
aw neat

>>4641028
Did you voiced Sir. blasko, kegan?

>>4641071
God no, that's Marty's voice, he's pretty much been the voice for every male Doom OC.

>>4640830
I'm lsitening to NIN the Fragile and its perfect

>>4641028
DAMN!

q3 120 fps duel arena tournament streaming if anyone wants to watch
www.twitchdottv/deliberatemurder

>>4641154
I chuckled

>>4639970
hahaha

>>4641028
holy fuck yes!

>>4641081
It would sound like complete shit MIDIfied, though.

>>4640830
I played a wad with a New Order midi and it was surprisingly fitting

>>4641295
Depends, Head Like A Hole I think could be translated very well to to Doom.

>>4641304
that's Pretty Hate Machine, though

>>4641154
Change that invisibility power up to the nightvision goggles and it's perfect.

>>4641329
I misread that.

>>4641154
>STR shows DEX who's boss around here.

finally maxed ur14 on the c. 100th attempt. supremely annoying level.

Well... Amid Evil is.. "meh"

>>4641397
not retro

>>4641401
so wait, Ion Maiden is ok, but other retro style shooters aren't?

>>4641405

Ion Maiden is actually built on eDuke32. Amid Evil is just a new game.
You can talk about new romhacks all the time, but if you make a topic about Shovel Knight you're gonna get smacked.

>>4641434
Yeah, but Ion Maiden wouldn't run on any retro hardware

>>4641446
Neither do a lot of romhacks.

>>4641405
neither are retro

>>4641453
so what about the Doom mobile games? All of them were made past the year 2000

>>4641401
What do you know? I don't care

Weird..

fb.com/official3dr/posts/1981965782057365

>we're finding refreshing ways that this engine actually outperforms some modern engines,

What version of the Build engine Ion Maiden uses? I am pretty sure it's not Vanilla build modified to just run on modern systems.

>mancubi killed in one shot

I think I like this weapon

>>4641458
They're not retro either, but they do directly relate to a retro series. They even use many of the same assets. They're not a completely unrelated game that came out in 2018.

What the fuck ever though. Tell us all about your opinions on it.

>>4641470
How do you get 99999 armor

>>4641246
source on that pic?

>>4641476
it wouldn't matter because the armor will only absorb 1/3 of incoming damage so with 79 health the maximum damage he can absorb is 118.5.

>>4641473
i mean, i'm not even that anon, but where else do i discuss the game if i don't wanna put up with /v/'s autism?

Can someone please help me with this. I'm trying to make a wad for Doom 2. If I don't use a zdoom mapinfo file, the sky works fine (shows the cloudy sky in level 1). If I do use a mapinfo file, I need to define the sky or else the ceiling F_Sky1 just show up as checkerboards. However, if I define Sky1 as F_Sky1, the mountain texture shows up instead of the cloudy texture, and it's all tiled and fucked up (in OpenGL, not even looking up). But I looked and can't find what the other skies are named. How do I get it to simply show the cloudy sky in map01?

>>4641501
i appreciate your dilemma but allow me to explain the problem a different way: if you discuss it here, you will bring /v/ shittyness here. i speak from experience - whenever new games are discussed on /vr/ it brings angry shitters from /v/ with it.

>Reverie had a pistol restart on Map 12
>now at Map 20

I'm guessing I'll have to restart and say bye to all my killer weapons like super rocket launcher

>>4641512
the IWAD sky textures are named SKY1, SKY2 and SKY3, so define Sky1 as SKY1 and you should be set. (i'm assuming it will work anyway, i'm not a zdoom user, i'm just making an educated guess)

>>4641517
Go ahead and equip your best armor and find a soulsphere. Your rocket launcher rampage may not be over yet.

arborix giving 88alice some competition

>>4641518
Thanks, that worked. I thought it'd be that at first but I searched "sky" in the iwad in slade and it found nothing. Are the sky flats in the exe and not in the iwad or something? Or named something different?

>>4641547
doom has sky choice hardcoded: episode 1 and MAP01-MAP11 use SKY1, episode 2 and MAP12-MAP20 use SKY2, episode 3 and MAP21-MAP32 use SKY3, and episode 4 uses SKY4

F_SKY1 is always the sky flat in doom IWADs

>>4641547
SKY1/2/3 aren't flats, they're wall textures. you can even put them on walls if you like (but it looks very dated, like a geocities webpage as it were). F_SKY1 is a placeholder that the engine replaces with a "hole" the sky is drawn into - the actual contents of F_SKY1 do not matter.

>>4641470
why aren't you using the DRLA hud?

Is this too much stereotype?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLtXDE2DWsk

>>4638734
Nice, we need more FMs. I'm gonna do one someday, but I want to build my skill on some other games first. I love Thief so much that I feel I need to do it right, need to do it justice.

>>4639368
Here's something fun.

>>4641563
Thought I had it installed honestly

I know DNF isn't /vr/, but this circle is among the few I can think that would enjoy Duke jokes.

>>4641607
I did a chuckle.

>>4641607
I lol'd but that game was a lot of garbage

>>4641618
>that game was a lot of garbage

I know it all too well, anon. It has a few neat moments but even on the initial playthrough I was haunted by those 2009 leaks outlining the games story and encounters. Even the snippets Jace Hall showed. DNF will always be the story of what could have been, rather than the game it became.

That said, we're 7 years removed from launch, the pain of disappointment washed over by litigation between 3DR and GBX, and the fear that I may never see another Duke game in my time. Makes me look back kind of nostalgically on the never-say-never hype.

>>4641607
Should've put Randy-bo-bandy's giant greasy head on that instead of Duke.

>>4641028
ya did it champ

>>4641649
this one's for you

>>4641663
I LOVE IT, thank you so much.

>>4641663
Now I really want to make a MIDI for a Duke Nukem mod and call it Randy Pitchford is a cunt.

>>4641606
argh, that map.

Made a wad that compiles all of Sverre Kvernmo's Cabal maps in one wad. It's for GZDoom (so i could use features that eliminate the need to idclev between levels, and avoid having to generate map name graphics). Will make a version compatible with PrBoom+ if anyone cares.
https://mega.nz/#!g59BUADJ!AX2ejshiCwhDvD-1aTtfVxGRekTBzGFbA7-ya46FFZo

>>4641673
what about it

>>4641681
i recall it being frustrating to pistol start max on UV.

>>4641483
mahmapuu on tumblr

>>4641691
Stop desecrating the name of Star Butterfly

>>4641618
it was a mediocre shooter with a Duke skin. There were fun part's, but it mostly just dragged on. Not terrible, but also not great, most of the hate it got was caused by the fact it was in development for so long, and extremely overhyped, the expectations were too high.
Honestly, i always considered duke to be just slightly above average game. The first one just came out at the right time.
On an unrelated note, i think this is the reason Valve will never release HL3, the expectations are too high.

>>4641691
someone needs to tell this guy ahegao face doesn't mean 'character becomes mentally disabled'

>>4641570
no, there are no banners unfurling, or horst wessel starts playing, when the thing explodes.

>>4641712
you need a better partner then

>>4641712
Don't kinkshame me, anon

>>4638653
Man I miss playing All out War on doomseeker, that mod was the shit, anyone played that ?

>>4641708
I thought it was a downright bad game.

Shadow Warrior outclassed it pretty thoroughly.

the only people I know that like DNF like it because of the Pig cop transformations

>>4640752
Thank you for your efforts, I hope someone can release a "native" android DOOM RPG port.

>>4641718
what

>>4641737
t-tell me more.

>>4641028
>Doomguy as an alternate class
??????
i mean, okay

>>4641747
they are instantaneous but some people have a kink for transformation that devolves the target's mental faculties

>>4641028
>HEH-HEEEEEEH

>>4641708
>Honestly, i always considered duke to be just slightly above average game.

>>4641792
the character is probably what made Duke stick around, he came out spouting one liners in a time where all characters we got were just faces on the hud, and a series of HUH's.

>>4641756
Trust me. He's a lot of fun and works really well in GMOTA

>>4641028
Looks awesome. So Doomslayer mode is like half fantasy, with fantastical guns to shoot?

>>4641812
Yeah. He's the Julius mode

>>4641802
i dunno, i'll probably stick with shortstack
just seems really weird to have Actually Doomguy as a character in a mod about your cool character

what if stepping on caltrops on shadow warrior made you jump?

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=59787

I'd like to imagine this will be entirely benign and that there's no reason they're lying to us about it not distributing personal information, but frankly I trust Graf and Eruanna as far as I can throw them.

>>4641816
sounds nice.

>>4641845
very neat idea too.

>>4641846
You can check the source code if you're especially worried.
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/blob/master/src/d_stats.cpp

>>4641836
Would you believe me if I said I want to take this take on the Doomslayer I've made and make him my own in the future with a few tweaks and just calling him the Slayer or something to that effect? Because this guy would make for a fucking rad hidden boss fight, like Culex from SMRPG

I'm quite enjoying MiniDoom II, but why is there no way to switch weapons without the stupid weapons wheel?

>>4641889
Not to my knowledge. Though I gave up out of frustration because the terrible weapon cool downs, and how it's tied to the grenades too. So you can't fire the shotgun and follow up with a grenade, it feels awful

>>4641907
Ya it was starting to get annoying not being able to play the way i'd feel like i was playing in Doom but in 2D

also i think pinkies are too fast

With DRL being opensource, is there any noteworthy fork?

>>4641932
To my knowledge, no. If there is a notable fork, post it here.

What are your ideas for megawads?
>Each map is centered around a single weapon, and it's the only one you're allowed to use for the level.
>The levels of Doom/Doom 2 played in reverse (and edited to be playable in reverse)
>a megawad acting as a prologue to Doom '16

>>4641979

A lot.
But they would require being able to map, first.

>>4641979
A post-apocalyptic world similar to Mad Max and Fist of the North Star. A large metropolitan city which is filled with demons, and you have to clear out the city.

>>4641979
A vast demonic desert where you travel through wildlands, canyons, oases, temple ruins, actual populated demonic cities, etc.

Lots of dead wildlands with gray sand and rocks, occasional flows of blood, sometimes even actual water, dead trees, a black gradient sky, dotted with stars, some shine off in the horizon, and some cursed faces and nubulae among it. Tall dunes and rocks and mountains in the sky line.

Yet it's not pitch black outside, it's dark at night and bright at day.

>>4640552
Imagine Doomguy facing *record scratch* in battle.

>>4641979
redline is pretty similar to the first idea

>>4641801
so you're saying douk is a literal meme character?

>>4641979
a lovely resort hotel for a relaxing vacation and killing demons

the setting would be a mix of the Caribbeans, the plantation bay, the cruise liners, and that fictional moving city called colossus from black ops 2 mission karma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckAj35DAjik&ab_channel=MXEVIDEOS

>>4641340
change the health-packs to invisibilitys

>>4642129
or the invisibility to a berserk

>>4642131
The berserk is good though. I think the idea is that all the powerups against invisibility are helpful and invisibility is the one shitty one.

>>4642135
It's only shitty in some situations.
Give it to a player in a slaughter-map, though, and it becomes candy.

>>4642138
Does it really though? That seems like it'd be the worst time since there would be a ton of projectiles flying in random directions you can't predict.

>>4642110
CALL OF DUTY!?!? HAH WHAT A FAnah just kidding thats a neat idea desu

>>4642141
I still hate the level design in the call of duty game especially black ops 2

it's pretty much cut scene after cut scene

I like the karma and judgment day the most the downside was it feels wayy to short because of that problem

Goodbye Reverie

You were a pain in the ass

Was Fall of Triton any good?

>>4642182

I liked it as a novelty. Wasn't a groundbreaking mapset, though.

>>4638654
that J2ME emulator is a such a neat and precious little piece of tech.

not only can I play these fantastic vintage mobile games in a superior mobile OS now, but I'm no longer limited by screen resolution/rendering/framerate issues or having to purchase a new (old) phone altogether just to play them again.

I recently 100%ed the first Doom RPG for the first time in almost 10 years since having last played it. such a charming and nostalgic little game, still holds up incredibly well today imo. I don't even care about how easy it is overall (I'm aware the second game is a total ramp up difficulty wise by comparison), I would blast through it time and again as many occasions as time allowed it. it's so wacky and kind-hearted and unique, I'm glad Metadoom manages to keep hold of its essence in a way.

Orcs and Elves 1&2 are both incredible and very charming games as well. give them a try some time.

>>4638653
does anybody have omg weapons and monsters v5? the links have been down for like a year and it looks like the creator deleted his zdoom account

>>4642201
Here you go. http://www.mediafire.com/file/8143dd4or85df62/OMG+Weapons+and+Monsters+v05.zip

>Internet's been out so missed both of Term's streams and haven't been able to access ZDoom wiki for information
God damn it NBN sucks

>>4642192
Anyone know how to change your controls for freeJ2ME? Or at least what they are? I've never touched a Java Phone in my life.

>>4642257
i really appreciate it thank you god this is hard

>>4641712
Wasn't that the entire point?

Playing through Eternal Doom for the first time, and ugh...Episode 1 was not fun, with an offensive amount of long empty corridors, not to mention the unmarked doors and those two (unmarked as far as I know) fake exits on MAP05.
I really hope Episode 2 is better, MAP06 is a step in the right direction.

>>4642343
no

>>4641371
whatmod/wad

regarding the touch version of doom 2 rpg
the lower half of the screen is cut off, can't see the stats, at least on J2ME I can't

>>4642140
It's an infight.

>>4642357
go to the config folder where you launch freeJ2ME from, go to the Doom II RPG folder, and mess with the resolution in the config file. I believe you change 320 to 400 and that's it.

>>4642158
Isn't reverie a vanilla Doom wad? I don't remember there being extra monsters unless we are talking about differnt mods. What's the one you are talking about?

>>4639347
Doom has that tech demo vibe (in a good way) going on. Although Duke has more features, Doom feels and looks more consistent and polished.

>>4639124
Into Sandy's City

>>4642085
yup

>>4642110
i think there is already a vacation themed wad, it's called doom vacation.

>>4642382

"Consistent" and "polished" are not words I would use for "tech demo vibe".

>>4642272
what problem do you have? Most games just use the keypad, and have pretty logical layouts 8462 for movement, 5 for action, and the rest of the numbers usually have a different purpose. Doom RPG even has a tutorial which teaches you all of the buttons.

>>4642390
Quake was also a tech demo, that said, both had somewhat primitive gameplay, which was not hard to implement and polish, and carmack made damn sure that the technical side is working 100%. Remember, a tech demo needs to sell the engine, meaning it needs to be polished.

>>4642365
just tried that and it seems to mend it, but it crashes on the id logo

also it seems two different versions of the same game cannot coexist since installing the touch version overwrote the java version of doom 2 rpg

One problem i've run into while playing Doom RPG on the PSP j2me emulator is that i have no idea what numbers are bound to where, meaning i need to shuffle trough all the buttons finding what numbers they represent when putting in a door code.

>>4642398
Just use the non touch version, old touch phones were all over the place in terms of compatibility.

i wonder why no one has made an android port of the IOS versions of Doom 2 RPG, and wolf RPG.

>>4642406
can those be at least emulated somehow?

really doubt modern android phones wouldn't be capable of running them natively with some fiddling around.

>>4642409
not to my knowledge, but i don't think it would be that hard, considering how many identical games are released on both platforms these days, i just wonder why Carmack himself didn't do it.

>>4642406
the one bad thing about the IOS version of D2RPG? the HD reworks of the sprites have aged so badly it's unbelievable.

also the new HUD is atrocious.

>>4642390
One of the goal of Q3:A was to advertise the new engine, and it succeded in that regard, while Unreal was a lot less popular, so it can be considered a techdemo as well, just a very polished one.

>>4642487

Fair enough.

>>4641028
KNIGHTLEGEN

>>4642356
unholy realms

the next map is so much easier it feels like a joke. no idea what he was thinking with map14.

>>4641990
Fund it

>>4642582
>deus vulting intensifies
In other words, I cannot wait to play this in Scythe 2.

>>4639347

Doom has the more distinctive and interesting art style. It's more colorful and everything is balanced between comic book cartoonyness and heavy metal grit and fantasy.


If you want to see Doom looking bad, just look at any Doom wad that tries to portray a realistic urban environment like those in Duke.

Duke would've looked a lot better than Doom had 3D realms had the sense to do something more fantastical in their texture art. The same problem plagues all of the build engine games. It's like they took the engine's ability to fill levels with interactivity as a reason to make the games look as much like the real world as they could.

The saddest thing is that it looks like Ion Maiden is going to follow the build engine trope of basing an entire game around a single psuedorealistic aesthetic.

GZDoom is such a trash port they don't deserve half the market share they have

>>4642629
Which port, in your opinion, deserves the part of the market share you think GZDoom doesn't deserve?

>>4642637
inb4 he says zandronum

>>4642637
prboom+/odamex

>D4T alters the nazis, just to make them shoot projectiles over hitscan
okay?

https://twitter.com/antares031/status/973502463020974080

>>4639034
I hope things will happen with it. It looks neat. The editor looks pretty cool, being all extrusiony and shit.

>>4642629
It's a great engine, and does the majority of things... close enough. There are issues that bother me though. Needless changes that can't be changed without a large deal of effort.

It seems like the best engine to mod specifically for, but the worst to have to work around.

>>4642697
>teal
Is antares partially colourblind?

>>4642734
heh

>>4642734
where's the joke?

>>4642765
there isn't one, it's a montage.

>>4642765
It's not a joke, it's just a cute thing.

with the id rpg games being emulatable, is anyone going to make guides on how to play them?

>>4641887
i don't mind having "literal doomguy" in gmota
in fact, he seems more like an alt timeline version of doomguy

>>4642856
shoot demons, and collect keycards to unlock doors. Basically strife, but with turn based combat.

I'm on the Juggernaut, bitch!
This is hands down the best map of Strange Aeons so far, it's really cool. Just a giant tank-fortress thing rolling through an endless desert and one section even involves a running battle on one of the vehicle's giant treads.

>>4642897
>I'm on the Juggernaut, bitch!
please don't talk like this.

>>4642904
Sorry, it was a shitty X-men reference and I don't know why I made it.

>>4642907
Worse yet you got it wrong, it's I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BIIITTCH.
There's no "on the" that's just silly.

>>4642912
But the map and vehicle are called "The Juggernaut"

>>4642914
carry on then.

Shouldn't the Inmost Dens blog reblog Kegan's GMOTA announcement?

>>4642920
I think they only cover actual releases.

>>4642919
Regardless, it's a great mapset in general and it's worth a look.

>>4642856
why?
they're as easy to understand as the most basic of RPGs can get.

>>4642904
lol

>>4642936
i meant in terms of emulation and related

GUYS
GREZZO DUE 2 IS OFFICIAL!!!!

>>4642992
Oh god.

>>4642992
Where did you get that picture from?

>>4642996
Grezzo official Facebook page.

>>4642992
>Cuming Son
Considering the reputation of the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see gay incest in that garbage fire.

>>4642992
Somebody should stream it on day of release before it gets banned by Twitch like Grezzo 2.

>>4638826
the fuk is DRLA

>>4643040
doom roguelike arsenal, a weapons mod

>>4642951
you put the thing in the thing, and it works.

>>4641979
">The levels of Doom/Doom 2 played in reverse (and edited to be playable in reverse)"
It's the easiest one so I pick it

>>4638653
Does Skulltag work only with the Steam and GOG files for DOOM 1, DOOM 2, Heretic, Hexen, and Strife?
Also, how do the sound settings have to be in order to get the cutscene voice acting to properly come out?

WooD megawad when

>>4643069
Every version includes the same WAD files, they will work regardless of version. Also why do you wanna use skulltag, it's an old and abandoned sourceport. And regarding voice acting, only strife has voice acting, and to get that working you just need voices.wad.

>>4642992
Oh boy this should be fun

>>4643069
And just a tip, don't buy doom, you can find the files literally anywhere, and none of the money goes to the dev anyway.

>>4642587
map16 done. slightly harder than 15 but still nowhere near 14.

i am become shotguns

>>4642897
I'm playing Strange Aeons at the moment too. I have no clue how to get past E1M2.

>>4643170

Where are you stuck?

>>4643196
The door wouldn't open for whatever reason. Shot it a few times and it opened though.

>>4643201
Oh yeah, that one. I swear you have to leave the monsters behind it alive so they'll open it up for you. I also had the issue where I was locked out once.

>>4643201
>>4643210

The switch that opens the gate also opens the gate on the other side of the house.
There's no indication of this. It's dumb.

Wads that are dedicated in memory:CChest3 Map 12.

>>4638653
What does Ketchup Doom have that Chocolate Doom and Odafex don't?

>>4642052
fuck that, imagine him going against Steven.

About to revisit TNT with Final Doomers TNT weapon set

>>4643271
that was pretty cool when I found it

>>4643305
Here lies Doomguy. He never stood a chance.

>>4643129
chuk chuk

>>4643170
Strange Aeons is nice, but fuck the third episode with it's love of regenerating skeletons everywhere and almost no health.
I noticed some of them are dying permenantly but I don't know how. Do they have set lives?

>>4643359
they permadeath on gib

>>4643365
Not the black ones with the hades sphere inside, I mean the yellow melee ones.

>>4643303
I don't understand the question.

Ketchup is a mod for GZDoom (a sourceport), it gives you some of the flashy blood and gore effects of Brutal Doom, without you having to play Brutal Doom.

Chocolate Doom is a sourceport, what it does is to perfectly emulate the behavior of the original .exe (including the low resolutions, engine quirks, bugs and limitations). The purpose is to run the game in it's original state on modern systems, without the need for a DosBox setup or anything.

Odamex is something I actually don't have any experience with, but from my recollection, it's a sourceport intended for competitive multiplayer. I almost never see it mentioned anywhere ever. I think it's based on Boom, but someone will correct me.

I don't see how they compare with each other at all, the first isn't a sourceport at all, but a mod (unless there's a new sourceport I've never heard about), the second is basically a compatibility utility for the original game, it doesn't actually put anything new on the table.
I guess maybe Odamex has some features which the original game lacks? Maybe some features which haven't been put in GZDoom yet?

>>4643376
the yellow melee ones? i don't remember those existing.

>>4643069
Skulltag hasn't been updated in years, it probably won't properly work with most modern mods (if that's something that interests you).
It's successor is Zandronum, it does everything Skulltag does, but it's actually updated more (it doesn't run ZScript yet, I think, so a few particularly flashy mods won't work with it).

>>4643379
im guessing he got confused with all the food sourceports and meant crispy or something rather than ketchup

>>4643380
I've only seen them in episode three, and they're easy to avoid and outrun but it's just annoying how they keep getting back up no matter what. They only have a sword and shield and fall easily, but when you're constantly being hunted at all times by an immortal enemy it's irritating.
I have seen them die for good though, and it doesn't seem linked to the damage or weapon I was using, because grenades and overloaded super shotgun blasts weren't doing the job.