/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4626535
So I started playing N64 on my video monitor and I've been noticing this line of light at the top. Some games it's there, some games it's not, and sometimes it'll just be hidden enough that you can't outright see it. I thought it was something wrong with my CRT, but other systems seem to display just fine and 240p test suite doesn't show anything wrong with the alignment either. It doesn't show up when I have the monitor on by itself either, it's like specifically the N64.
Anybody know what's going on? I'm using a mechanical switchbox and an everdrive 64 right now, but far as I could tell the problem persists even when I eliminate those.

>>4626981
Its the games alignment. Basically the eidge of the video signal is showing. I think it also depends of the brightness of the game too, if its really detailed but dont take my explanation as a technical analysis.

>>4626985
You mean I'm not actually supposed to be seeing that? My display is properly aligned though, maybe N64 just doesn't have such a good vertical overscan then.

Megaman X on PS2, through component.

TV is a 27" Sony KV-27FS320

Alright which one of you was it? https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=398&acctid=8907&&
I bowed out after the $600 mark as it was a 10 hour drive.

Finally got my nesrgb installed in the toploader.
>pic related mfw I find out I need to replace the main power cap as it is bad.
The colors look great and sharp in between the audio buzz and wavy black line caused by the bad power cap. I also recently bought the nesrgb-igr board but am waiting to install until I get the cap issue fixed. With this board I'll be able to enjoy (TRIGGER warning) switching between 3 different emulator color palettes and resetting the console via the controller. Not that I ever will but no holes drilled and a 100% reversible mod.

>>4626981
Looks like you need to adjust your overscan, or vertical and horizontal size. On my monitor if I set it perfectly for snes, it does similar but not as pronounced as your pic. I ended up using the standard setting for snes and overscan for n64 as my pvm allows you to set each option independently. What type of crt are you using? It's probably something you can adjust in the service menu desu.

>>4627089
damn nice picture anon.

Picked up two 27" Sony KV-27S42 for free last week, if I had waited one more day the owner would've sent them both to the recycling depot, so I feel like I saved them in a way.

I had the chance to test out one by playing some mother 3, and the quality was nice.

Lovin my new Trini so far

reposting from last thread

So this is maybe a retarded question, but I gotta ask. Ive had a Trinitron for a while now and it has plenty of ports on the back and one on the front. Now here's where Im a moron. I can't figure out how to change inputs. I can swap between DVD/HD/and TV which just results in snow, and can't figure out how to make use of all my video ports.

The inputs I can get it to go to work fine and I can hook whatever up too, it's just getting to be a pain to have to swap connections every time i want to play a different system and Id on't know if the guy I got it from did something weird to it.

pic related is not my set but the closest approximation I could grab a pic of right now. I won't be near my set for a while

Anyone have an opinion on pic related? My gut instinct is to always stay away from CRT's with media card slots because i thought it equated to HD but this monitor proves me wrong. 2 component inputs, 3 composite, and 2svideo. Sounds pretty dope to me

>Looking at online sales groups on FB for CRTs
>See this for $25
>An hour away
>Only used as display, not ever played with
What does /CRT/ think? It's fucking huge

accidentally fucked it up with a magnet
RIP pvm

>>4627424
How the fuck did you manage that, anon?

>>4627371
Press the input button on the bottom of the tv or the tv/video button on the remote
>I can swap between DVD/HD/and TV

What is the model number of your tv? It's on the sticker in the center back and starts with KV-

>>4627510

It's KV32SH500

>>4627424
degauss.

>>4627115
Panasonic BT-H1350Y
I've yet to actually find the exact manual for the thing, just a bunch for other models that have different controls, which is weird since this specific model is apparently one of the more common ones for Panasonic.

>>4627427
It's okay now, but I set a cardboard box on top that I forgot had a car speaker inside. I didn't realize until I turned it on. Deguassing a couple times fixed it.

advertisers make another crt genocide.

>>4627607
The first TV it zooms in on is a Panasonic GAOO 70. It was a European model I believe. I've been looking into the GAOO sets cause they were apparently very good, comparable to a Trinitron although still a shadow mask.

It would be fun to try and identify each set in this scene.

Is there much of a difference quality wise from buying a 50hz/60hz CRT with component slots and using a SCART to component adapter versysus finding something that 50hz/60hz with a dedicated SCART slot?

>>4627723
Yeah, the difference is the latter doesn't need a SCART to component adapter

>>4627371
Go into the regular menu; The last grouping should have a setting for input labeling. Several of the inputs are likely set to skip, or otherwise.

Either that or it's under channel skip, can't remember atm.

CRT is pretty much dying on me. Image not always showing, showing up distorted or showing up gray on my Super Famicom.

Decided to kick it out for now, here's hoping I'll find something good soon.

>>4627424
Get another CRT and put it face to face with your PVM. Turn the PVM on first and then power on the other CRT. The degaussing circuit in the other CRT will correct the magnetism in your PVM

The meme? Always fall for it.

>>4628019
Anon fixed the problem >>4627601

Regardless, why do you suppose the coil in a second set would be any more effective than the built-in one?

>>4628124
idk why that anon suggest that. usually you only do that if the coil in the other set is dead.

>>4627415
geddit

>>4627415
Why would someone put a huge pedobear in a baby crib?

Get it and burn it

I’m trying to adjust an arcade monitor. There’s a slight pincushion effect on the top and bottom of the screen. While there’s pincushion adjustments for the sides of the screen, nothing seems to fix the top and bottom

Any ideas? It’s fairly minor, and I don’t see any obviously damaged capacitors

>>4628154
You'll need to reset the yoke, anon.

There's a full pdf guide in the OP.

>>4628154
Only other option is attaching magnets to the set

>>4628027

Hahaha, love it.

Sorry to the anon who first posted this, it is fantastic though

My cheap trashy 14'' tv

>>4628163
Looks pretty good desu. I bet it's better than what most people played that game on when it actually came out.

>>4628163
>butt cheese

Just got this baby up and working last night after bringing it home on saturday. I'm so used to HD tvs and emulation that I forgot old SD era games actually used to look good. But I digress.

Does anyone know where I can get a good service menu guide to follow? I tried the "240p Test Suite" homebrew app on my wii, and it showed me some horizontal overscan problems I wanna fix. Sony KV-27FV300

>>4628226
jfc I didn't even know my iphone could manage to fuck up that badly when posting an image

>>4628232
4chan strips metadata from images. this metadata often contains the proper rotation.

>>4628226
>>4628232
plz be strayan for the joke to be complete

>>4627936

Thanks. I found that in my settings and I switched a bunch to ADD but it doesn't seem like that changed anything. Unless Im missing something else

Is there a guide to RGB modding a CRT? I found a nice 13 inch Panasonic CRT, but it literally only has coax on the back. I want to add an RGB scart to it or composite at the least. Are there some books I can read, or online courses, etc?

I'm an ausfag so SCART TVs are rare and I don't have the soldering experience to mod RGB into something. Should I buy some of those component cables from hdretrovisions and use those on a 50/60Hz CRT with component slots or should I just pray I happen upon something with SCART? I've only ever seen Loewe TVs but they've been 100hz

>>4628582
there are 3 possibilities to add rgb :
-the chip has rgb in pins ready to be used
-the chip has osd rgb in pins, you inject rgb instead
-you inject rgb directly into the gun circuits.
there's a whole thread on shmups.

>>4628592
aren't s-video decently common in straya ? That would be a really good start.
if not, you might wanna be careful with component sets, if the situation is the same as euro pal, a huge majority of component-able sets are 100hz.

>>4628226

>SCART modded Sony CRT
>Picture looks fucking beautiful
>Seller is selling it for $145 AUD
>He's across a state and a road trip is out of the question so getting it brought here is gonna cost me around $150 AUD
>tfw have the money but not sure if I want to spend that much on a CRT
What do you guys think? Worth it? I haven't seen a half-decent SCART TV anywhere near me for ages so this might be my only shot to get a nice SCART TV for a fucking long time

>>4626535
Found my old crt stored away. From what I read this is the shittiest connection you could have, can I do anything about it or am I just fucked and need to buy another one?

>>4628767
Nigger thats what everyone played on back in the day

>>4628767
Nah. Rf is the shittiest. What you got is just entry level.

>>4628768
I get that but it doesn't mean I shouldn't do something to improve it if I can

>>4628768
>everyone
You mean poorfags.

>>4628768
In the US yeah, sure. Doesn't change the fact that it's utter shit.

>>4628019
Luckily it wasn't my consumer CRT because putting the PVM in front of it would be a pain in the ass.
I think I heard that you can also spin a magnet while backing it away.

>>4628010
Sad day. Can I come to the funeral, anon?

I want to RGB mod my 32" XBR from 1990 but I don't have the time to do it right now and it's killing me.

Just hooked up my Wii with my CRT via component and it looks pretty darn good to me, but I just wanted to make sure. Is this how it's supposed to look up close?

>>4628827
Unfortunately RGB-SCART was mostly wasted because seemingly no console shipped with a proper SCART cable as a standard. It was always an RCA cable with a SCART adapter for some retarded reason.

Looking at a sony pvm for sale. It says Untested. Should i take the risk or just wait until something else pops up in my area?

Got a pvmeme from a friend that works at a TV station.
When I'm buying console to scart cables, what would I want for Snes? The scart to bnc connector I have uses euro scart and my console is ntsc. Does it matter if I look for an ntsc scart cable or is a pal cable what I want? Do these formats even matter in the case of rgb?

Let's discuss whether Trinitrons actually better than other CRTVs or just a hyped up meme.

Trinitrons are said to have sharper image than regular shadowmask CRTs. I've been told that this amounts to about half the difference that comprises the jump from S-video to component, assuming that the non-Trinitron CRT is a decent (Japanese) brand. Can anyone corroborate this? If the difference is so small then surely normies would not have been able to notice it and the new technology would not have caught on.

Trinitrons are said to be 25% brighter than non-trinitrons. Does this mean peak white levels can get 25% brighter resulting in higher contrast? Or does it mean the whole image is upshifted 25% to white so the black areas in games are more grey than regular CRTs? Has anyone ever noticed their games being brighter when they switched to a Trinitron?

Some oldtimers dislike Trinitrons because aperture grilles were never used in arcades. They say that shadowmasks produce "a warmer, less clinical, more comfy picture". What did they mean by this? Can someone explain this further, possibly with pics and analogies?

If Trinitron aperture grilles have more visible scanlines than shadowmasks do then does this mean that for 480i 6th gen games which do not have scanlines, the difference between a Trinitron and a regular CRT is less flagrant than for earlier games that do have scanlines? What about VHS movies and TV programs which are the whole reason normies ever bought TVs in the first place?

I have noticed that curved Trinitrons are heavier than curved regular CRTs. This does not seem strange, afterall the barrel glass of the Trinitron is different than the fishbowl glass of the typical CRT and so may have more mass. But, someone here said that flat Trinitrons are also heavier than flat regular CRTs. How can this be, given that flat Trinitrons and flat regular CRTs have the same shape/size of glass?

Does anyone know what the fuck is up with this geometry? Particularly the bottom left corner. I can't adjust for it without screwing up the top left

There's so many quirks and foibles all over this thing I don't even know where to begin

>>4629232
Nice interactive blog you've got there

Saw this Commodore 1084s-p1 on ebay, price isn't too bad for what it is. Is there some kind of converter for SCART to attach to this thing so I can plug my SNES and N64 in?

>>4629232
>Sharper
So many different makers can lower what you would say the average shadow mask to be. That said, the phosphor arrangement of slot masks just don't lend themselves as well to a very sharp image. Dot triad, on the other hand, can match and arguably surpass the sharpness of an AG display, but you're only going to see this on PC monitors and high end ones in particular. Slotmask was the primary mask design for TVs, despite coming later.

>Brighter
This goes back to when the tech was still new, but Trinitrons do tend to be a brighter (on average) picture. This comes down to the wires that make up the AG blocking and as such absorbing less of the electrons being shot at the screen to excite the phosphors than shadowmasks, as such the phosphors end up emitting more light. This was in comparison to older dot mask sets, and definitely was a selling point. The slot mask was invented specifically as a response to this, to allow for greater light emission.

>warmer, less clinical
Possibly from having more natural bloom than even a basic consumer Trinitron. They do in general have a softer image, which could be seen as a benefit in terms of aesthetic. Even with a higher TVL SM vs a lower TVL AG, you can still end up with sharper/more squarer "pixels" on the latter just do to the phosphor arrangement.

>480i
You get a sharper image, but also can end up with a bit more flicker than a shadowmask display, but this is a bit more of a source to source and model to model basis.

>>4628968
yeah mostly

>>4629365
>>4629232
>heavier
Almost none of the "flat" sets are actually completely flat internally. So with an FD Trinitron, you've got the bulkier glass (and metal frame all of the wires are connected to) of the standard design as well as a decent amount more laminated on in front of that. The glass on the 40'' flat XBRs gets to be well over an inch thick on the face.

Whats the most one should pay for say a 12-14" pvm? I know they are all overpriced these days but what is TOO much?

>>4629310
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-CM8833-MKII-RGB-MONITOR-TO-SCART-ADAPTER-CABLE/320754731999
you're welcome.

You can also get S-Video through this adapter.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Commodore-S-Video-Adapter-S-Video-to-Split-Chroma-Luma-Video/332528719749

t. 1080 owner. Really quality monitors, SVid looks great and RGB is incredible. Vivid colors and softer scanlines with a tri-dot color mask make for a superb alternative to other RGB monitors like PVMs. Pic related!

>>4627708
>Panasonic GAOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW5svEDDSEc

I have noticed that, in general, flat CRTVs (silver) have speakers on the sides and curved CRTVs (black) have speakers on the bottom.

In my eyes the curved black CRTV bottom speakers usually appear to be larger in size/diameter than the flat silver CRTV side speakers.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just an illusion caused by the different colours of plastic?

The number one factor in speaker sound quality, especially for low end speakers (which is anything that was ever sold in department stores), is the size/diameter.
Indeed, I have been told that old wooden box TVs (called console TVs) that had a single large speaker had much better sound quality than more modern 90s and 2000s stereo CRTVs despite being mono only.

Is it true then that curved black CRTV bottom speakers have noticeably better audio quality than flat silver CRTV side speakers?
And would this mild increase in sound quality be worth the reduced stereo separation of the bottom speakers necessarily being closer together?

I have noticed that, in general, flat CRTVs (silver) have speakers on the sides and curved CRTVs (black) have speakers on the bottom.

In my eyes the curved black CRTV bottom speakers usually appear to be larger in size/diameter than the flat silver CRTV side speakers.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just an illusion caused by the different colours of plastic?

The number one factor in speaker sound quality, especially for low end speakers (which is anything that was ever sold in department stores), is the size/diameter.
Indeed, I have been told that old wooden box TVs (called console TVs) which had a single large speaker had much better sound quality than more modern 90s and 2000s stereo CRTVs despite being mono only.

Is it true then that curved black CRTV bottom speakers have noticeably better audio quality than flat silver CRTV side speakers?
And would this mild increase in sound quality be worth the reduced stereo separation of the bottom speakers being necessarily closer together?

>>4629627
>Reply
you're reading just too much into it. as technology improves, lower cost models are introduced and fill the market, then you start seeing those a lot more, but it doesn't mean sound quality suffered BECAUSE of CRT tech developments, it just means manufacturers got shitty about sound because they figured they could get away with it.

>>4629294
this post again? I swear this is bait. I'll bite, though. That's excellent geometry. shut the fuck up, stop worrying about the grid and start playing games. you'll never see anything wrong.

>>4629627
aside from big cabinets (probably the only good thing about projection tvs), tvs with the best sound are the ones that use space around the neck for bass reflex.
Either with 2 decently sized modules, or with a subwoofer.
Pic is a speaker module from a KV-25X5B.

>>4628163
is dat sum alttpr?

>>4629627
>CRTV

>>4629493
reposting this pic of my commodore 1084 hooked up to genesis over RGB

>>4629456
Unless it's an L5, I wouldn't pay more than $200-$250.

Holy shit i am FUMING /crt/

>Bored in class yesterday, search eBay for PVMemes
>Come across bid for 20L1
>No way, it's being sold in my town
>Go to seller's other items
>A 20L5 WITHOUT THE NAME IN THE TITLE
>Message seller, ask if it's working, etc. it is and I would be able to pick it up, saving shipping
>Bid ends today
>Last 2 minutes
>Bid goes from $300 to $420 in seconds
>My max bid was $400

Fuck you weed number, I hope your monitor gets fucked, have fun paying for shipping.

>>4630362
400 was the absolute maximum you were willing to bid right? Other guy won it fair and square.

>>4628767
Remember that TV sets like yours literally had exclusive content put in by HIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzG8Sty9veI

>>4630374
Yeah, still upset though cause I wouldn't have had to worry about shipping, and the guy was willing to let me test it out.

Honestly compared to the market that's still "a good deal", considering other listings have 20L5's anywhere from $800-$1300.

>>4630408
Holy hell, that's hilarious.

>>4629668
Are you kidding me? That's terrible geometry. Especially the linearity, it looks horrible.

>>4629232
aperture grille -> brighter
shadow mask -> sharper
slot mask -> neither

>Mint condition Commodore 1084S P1
>Literally an hour away
>$500 tho

>>4630620
Sorry, not really seeing any upsides there.

>>4629157
If it's cheap go for it. I've got 2 "as is" non working that worked fine. One was just a pure black screen when on (no tv tuner so no static) and nothing wrong. The other needed the brightness and contrast turned down (it was maxed and bvm have a safety cutoff).

Most of the time people can't test them as they have no bnc connectors and they think they are broke as a result.

>>4629172
You'll want a european scart cable, pal or ntsc makes no difference here. The japanese style connector can work but it's got an odd pinout. European scart is the most common and easy to find things for.

>>4629294
>Does anyone know what the fuck is up with this geometry?

Only one thing, it's owner has autism. It's fine man, if anything make it slightly bigger horizontally and vertically. The slight bow on the sides isn't bad at all, but it's probably pincushion. Good luck if you decide to adjust it, make sure and write your settings down.

>>4628767
Dude you can't just post a detailed, focused picture of that nasty fucking grime caked in and around the connections and not be cleaning the devil out of that shit afterwards. Like god damn clean up already, it's disgusting.

>>4630759
It's been in our barn for 6 years now and we bought it back in 99

>>4626535
Found a guy selling this Trinitron model Kv-2184, I need help because I know jack shit about CRTs.

Is it good? or at least decent enough compared to other crts I might find around

>>4630897

>>4630902

>>4630904

>>4630907
No péritel /10

>>4630932
It's not european so it wouldn't have it.

Okay /CRT/, I have the choice right now between getting a Commodore 1084S or an RBG modded 21" Trinitron. Pic related is the Trinitron I'm looking at. Which do you guys think I should get?

>>4630983
1084s

>>4630408
How the hell can the console detect what kind of TV the analog audio output is connected to?

>>4631204

I'm guessing it's if you select mono audio in the menu?

>>4631204
I know the Sega Saturn has a mono option in the bios. Enabling it would set every game to mono mode by default.

I had to do that back in the day.

>>4630434
Babby learned how to plug his cables in

>>4630434
not green enough/10

>>4631356
what cables?

Anyone got a good auto switching S-video switch that doesn't cost a boat load of money?

>>4627936
>>4628510

actually I figured it out after posting this yesterday. There was a separate section for inputs in a different part of the menu than the channels so once I got that sorted it went right as rain. I feel a little dumb now actually.

My friend dropped this bastard off the other day. His parents were planning to throw it out. It has S Video so I guess it's time to pick up another N64.

Looking at buying a Commodore 1084S but it's only 50hz, is it going to have any trouble playing my 60hz N64 and SNES games with RBG SCART connected?

>>4632985
You sure about that?

i'm about to be very autistic and import a crt from japan. talk me out of it

>ikegami TM14-17R
Just impulse bought this for 100 bucks. Did i fuck up?

>>4633261
You fell for the meme, so yes.

>>4633261
Is that including shipping, local pickup, or?

I'm curious if it'll be slot mask or dot-mask. That model was made with both.

What's the best way to adjust PCC? Should I go from the corners down or the middle up?

>>4633297
Shipping included. 60/40ship

>>4633302
About what I paid for mine last year, so assuming it shows up in good condition, I'd say that's a pretty alright price.

Do note, if you don't have some already, you'll want to pick up some 75ohm terminator caps, as the monitor does not auto terminate the outputs. You can make do with RGB and the like, but Composite and S-Video will not work right without them.

>>4633320
Ah. Thanks. Ill check that out and pick some up. I plan on using the s video input.

>>4633320
Ill post photos when it shows up next week

>>4633329
Never looked into it myself, but finding a proper S-Video plug could be a bother, so you could be better off with just 2 75ohm resistors connecting the signal pins to the ground pins of the output.

>>4633381
What exactly goes wrong when you use composite without the 75ohm resistance? I'm using composite on my Ikegami and not noticing anything.

>>4627607
Special effects are too obvious. The genocide is fake, however it is unknown what happened to these sets afterward. I only hope for the best.

Is it possible to get flat-screen CRT TV geometry perfect or should I just live with the slight warping? I've done adjustments off and on for months but no matter what I do I can't seem to get rid of it.

Do you think that emulating GBA through a PS2 on my CRT would have input lag?

I need to make my setup better, I want to get rid of this chest of drawers and get one of those metal shelving unit things like this http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/storage-furniture/shelving-units-systems/mulig-shelving-unit-white-art-60224163/
anyone have something like this and know what a good one to get would be?

>>4633401
What Ikegami though? Some of the newer ones may actually be self-terminating.

For C-Vid, everything ends up overly bright and blown out and in some cases like the NES, it's refused to actually sync properly.

>>4633468
>through a PS2
Just don't. It's not going to be a good time.

>>4633537
b-but the internet said I could play Megaman Zero alright and stuff...

>>4633568
PS2 can't even manage NES and Genesis emulation that, the former of which the GBA itself can handle to some extent.

If you're gonna try and do GBA emulation on a console, look towards the Wii instead.

>>4632985
It's not only 50Hz, can do 60 too, or anything inbetween. It doesn't have any way to have preset settings though, so you'll want to set up calibration for one or the other.

>>4633678
>>4633110
Oh, saw this on an ebay listing and thought it was only 50hz. I'm checking out the monitor I'm planning on buying next weekend anyway.

>>4633295
Is the PVMeme that people often over-pay for them or that they're not as good as everyone says?

>>4633675
>wii
Get a wii u. It can play wii and gamecube natively and can emulate everything nintendo before it.

>>4633675
>>4633713
>Wii
>Wii U
I'm on a budget here lads, why do you think I want to emulate on a CRT? Otherwise I'd just use my PC.

>>4633708
If they mean 50Hz power only, that is correct.

>>4633713
Wii U can't do 240p output though, so /vr/ emulation on it looks quite a bit worse than when using a Wii.

>>4630983
Would recommend the Trini honestly. Those 21 inches really go a long way, unless you have a desk setup.

>>4633729
>I'm on a budget here lads
You can pick up a used Wii for next to nothing and is as budget conscious as one can get when looking to emulate on a CRT. Quality video output and the full libraries of several consoles and multiple handhelds.

>>4631785
Bump

>>4633818
>You can pick up a used Wii for next to nothing
This. Look around in your local pawn shops.

>>4633110
Ahh, the table with the 600TVL claim.

Ausfag here, if I bought a Commodore 1084 from a US seller would I be able to stick an AUS power supply in or would that fry it?

>>4633917
technically it just says line, not TVL. a claim of 600 lines could be accurate.

>>4633917
It claims 600 lines horizontal = 400TVL, sounds pretty reasonable.

>>4633998
You would need a step down transformer. Shipping it would be prohibitively expensive anyway.

>>4634052
>It claims 600 lines horizontal = 400TVL, sounds pretty reasonable.

What computation is that based on?

>>4634136
TVL = lines in a width equal to the picture height. 600 total lines / 4/3 aspect ratio = 450 lines. 400 was math fail.

>>4633998
If the power supply is external, you should obviously be able to do it. If it's internal it's gonna be difficult to find a compatible one though.

I've had this little black and white Sony monitor sitting in my garage for years. I feel like I should do something fun with it, but not sure what.

>>4634274
Not sure what kind of plug this is. Probably have to make up my own cables. I kind of have an urge to mount it in the trunk of my car with an Atari 2600 permanently wired to it or something.

>>4634274
>OBJECTS IN MONITOR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR
Is that a rearview monitor from a truck or something?

>>4634276

>>4634291
>Factory preset to reverse image
Gaming on dis thang gonna be a challenge...

>>4634284
Yeah, came out of my dad's old '83 Chevy plow truck he bought about 10 years back. Truck's still ticking. I wonder if the monitor does that thing where it automatically mirrors the image, though...

>>4634291
Oh neat, thanks!

What does /crt/ think of the Framemeister?

>>4634314
It's pretty good. I got one on ebay a few years back with tax refund money. I've got all my systems run through a splitter/amp so I can put them on my CRT, LCD, or both. 99 times out of 100 I just use the CRT, though, unless I wanna show it off to friends, or we're playing a multiplayer game and could use the bigger screen, but it doesn't come up too often.

I suppose if I run out of CRTs, it'll be a good backup in the future, at least.

>>4634320
>tax refund
Just got mine back. Thats pretty much my idea at the moment.
>run out of crts
Wonder how long crts will still be floating around this earth.

>>4634320
>Wonder how long crts will still be floating around this earth.
Probably for longer than we'd think, but not as long as we'd like.

>>4634320
Guess ill ask a few questions
Do you need rbg to see a difference or does it make most connections look nice on newer tvs? And what did you pay for yours? Im seeing prices around $400. Which is kind of shitty but when i see the way good crt monitor prices are going, whoch theres no way they will ever get better, this might be a safe bet for the future.

>>4634314
looks good, but has a lot of small issues.
it's expensive and in EoL.
Honestly I would rather go with GBS8200+custom fw.

>>4634342
It only works with RGB or YPbPr in, no composite or S-video.

videogameperfection.com has them available now for 135GBP ~=187USD.

>>4634352
disregard, I'm thinking of the OSSC, not Framemeister.

I took a few pictures of my PVM-1390. Showing its age a bit and I think it's due for a cap replacement, but still looks nice. 1/2

>>4634357
I like the form factor of this one too. Wish I had a bigger desk/room to set it up, but my Ikegami 2050RA1 isn't going anywhere.

>>4634342
>Do you need rbg to see a difference or does it make most connections look nice on newer tvs?
RGB definitely looks best, but based on how you tweak the settings on the Framemeister and the TV itself, S-video can look pretty great, too. It also does a very good job with component and 480p signals as well, as long as the game isn't switching between resolutions, then there's a pretty big delay.
>And what did you pay for yours?
A little under 300, like 280-ish? This was back when they were still being produced, though, so prices will probably steadily be on the rise until/unless they develop a successor. It's certainly a risky time to buy one.

Honestly, a great option that people overlook is getting a consumer CRT in good shape and transcoding RGB to component with either a box or those cables. People are emptying their wallets for RGB monitors, but a nice component image can be indistinguishable from RGB depending on the monitors. People just want a PVM because they hear about them from youtube scum, but nobody takes into account that RGB on a beat-up PVM could probably be outclassed by S-Video on a fresher consumer set. With all the history that most existing CRTs have behind them, it's pretty hard to objectively judge quality without direct, in-person comparison.

>>4634363
Do you know any good rgb scart to component rca transcoders? I haven't seen any listed but I've got a friend who would like one.

>>4634370
Actually, no. I bought one and it sucked balls, but maybe I just got a bad one? I've heard people say good things about this before, but it's hard to tell if it's the exact same model. Also, some people just have no eye for quality, but I could definitely tell something was going wrong in the transcoding process.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler/221156873851?hash=item337dfa167b:g:~skAAOxyjPNREP4S


There is that company making dedicated cables for each system, and they have built in. Their name is something stupid and obvious like "retro-something-or-other", I think. The fact that they're a dedicated company selling their stuff from a site makes me want to think they're a little more concerned about quality than your average, shady, Hong Kong-based ebay shitslinger. Although from the looks of them, they are EXTREMELY overpriced and sold out of many.

https://shop.hdretrovision.com/

>>4634419
that model is known to require pot tweaking, and has no audio.
There's shinybow model that has a much better reputation.

>>4634430
>has no audio
People should be using breakout audio cables anyway with RGB, since any RGB monitor they have will either have shit audio or no audio. The way I see it, if a gamer claims to care enough about quality to use an RGB setup, they should care enough to have a dedicated audio setup, too. I think that's probably the easiest way to spot a memer, is a PVM with no audio setup. Just dreadful.

Audio is treated like a red-headed stepchild, in general, not just in the gaming community. Everyone just HAS to have their 4K Ultra HD pictures to keep up with the Johnsons, but they are all too happy to settle for shitty, built-in speakers.

So, it looks like I'm picking up a PVM-2030 for free on Sunday. Guy says it was "in a case" but I'm not sure what that means. Apparently they were just going to throw it out.

Never used a PVM before. All I need is an adapter from RetroGamingCables and I can start using SCART, right?

>>4634461
I think the point is more requiring a separate breakout for audio rather than being built in.

I do agree completely about having a nice quality audio setup to go with your CRT.

>>4634419
The HD Retrovision cables are fine if you're only interested in using 1 system, and if you're actually lucky enough to catch them in stock, but if you think you might want to use a couple different systems, a dedicated transcoder would be a good thing to look into.

http://www.ani-av.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=220

>>4634486
>Never used a PVM before. All I need is an adapter from RetroGamingCables and I can start using SCART, right?
Isn't that one of the PVMs with a weird input for RGB? Pretty sure it's something other than the standard BNC connectors that retrogamingcables expects, but I could be wrong.

>>4634506
>The HD Retrovision cables are fine if you're only interested in using 1 system
in theory, they're fine otherwise, too, because you could easily find a good component switchbox/receiver to plug them into. Way more expensive, but still just as functional, if you don't care about money and just want a streamlined solution.

>>4634517
Just as functional yes, but as you said, it's gonna cost you more in the long run, if you can even get a hold of the cables.

I’m having an issue where things on the right side of the screen are a little compressed, and if I shift the picture too far right it starts to fold in on itself. Is this what horizontal collapse is? And if so is there anything I can do to fix it?

>>4634546
9 times out of 10, this stuff is capacitor related. What kind of set do you have? It's possible you may be able to adjust it...

>>4634486
>>4634510
It takes RGB on a Dsub connector as pictured.

You'll need https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-av-accessories/sony-pvm/sony-pvm-scart-converter

>>4634591
Oh and make sure you get the one with sync-only output https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-av-accessories/sony-pvm/SONY-PVM-2030-2530-SCART-ADAPTER-CABLE-LM1881-CSYNC unless you have this taken care of further up the signal chain (unlikely I would suppose)

Hi I still would like an answer to this >>4628968
I don't know if I trust this guy >>4629367

>>4635020
yeah that guy was bullshitting you. idk wtf is going on with your stuff but sonic is meant to be purple, not blue... might want to adjust the colour magnet on your trinitron pvms neck flyback.

>>4635045
lol yall are a bunch a nerds

>>4635064
hehe :)

>>4633186
post pics once it arrives.

>>4633710
They are great but highly overrated. A nice consumer set with component and s video is just fine. Sure there is an improvement over a regular crt, but if a regular crt is $40, pvms should only be $120 or so tops. It's simply supply and demand at this point.

SO, I made my coworker pick up that PVM while I was at work. My first PVM, and it was free!

>>4626535
Love the image so much I saved it op
Here's a shot from mine but it's from my phone's shitty camera

>>4635724
did you also paint your wall with neutron star paint ?

>>4635841

I'm in the middle of renovation. Just put the walls up. Gatta Spackle and paint when I actually get a few days off from work.

>>4635724
Nice flight case.

>>4635941
Lame tripfag.

>>4626535
Damn, Chun's thighs are so huge.

>>4636062
Haha! That'll teach em to mess with us eh!

What tools do you use to assist in color calibration?

I'm peepin that Disney WoW DVD. Is that recommended?

What scart cable do I need to go from an nesrgb modded nes toploader with a multiout port?

Is it a ntsc snes cable or something different?

The main thing I'm needing to know, in the scart head do rgb and sync lines require any capacitors or resistors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBWZayZnZiM
Anyone know what's going on here?
Guy has a SCART hooked up to a box that connects RCA cables to his CRT and claims he's getting RGB quality. Is he bullshiting or can I get one of these boxes and use it on my TV rather than seeking out a SCART TV?

>>4637173
YouMustBeNewHere.jpg

>>4636885
Follow this guide
https://sites.google.com/a/risd.edu/fav-wiki/processes-and-techniques/calibrating-a-monitor-with-color-bars

You just need something that can display a bitmap of the SMPTE bars. Strongly recommend getting a blue gel for accurate colors. Alternatively you can use Artemio’s RGB suite to display color bars.

>>4636963
the most spec compliant is a cable without any component on any line.
However you can also use a GC cable without issue.

>>4637173
component literally is rgb you idiot. don't fall for the scart meme.

>>4637343
Generally YPbPr is called component.

I have a question about general compatibility for a PVM

Say I got the female SCART to PVM 2030 adapter +CSYNC

Im looking at SCART cables for my consoles, and they come with things like "SYNC on Luma" and other such terminologies.

Would that damage my equipment or create a compatibility issue? I dont know much about this kind of stuff.

If I got the adapter with csync, what should I look for when buying SCART cables?

Never dealt with the PVMeme before but is there anything i can do with these inputs? A guy's selling it new in box for only $50 here

>>4637682
Looks like composite all day, I would buy that in a second.

>>4637687
how can progressive scan be composite?

>>4637694
240p? it is weird though, maybe there's a connector we can't see. Anyway $50 for a new tube is rad.

>>4637694
Look at the babby everyone, fresh fall

is PVM the meme crt?

>>4637785
Absolutely.

If I buy a SCART to composite converter am I going to get the same RBG quality image as just using a straight SCART cable? Newfag upgrading his setup here

>>4638005
Fuck, I'm a retard. Meant SCART to Component
Sorry about the image for ants but I'm working with the image of the TV the seller sent me.
Top is the converter I'm looking at, bottom is what I'm working with on the Component side. Is this going to do the job?

>>4638005
yes but tv you use is most probably an HDTV, so you'll get no scanlines and a bit of lag.

https://sewelldirect.com/hdmi-to-vga-rgb-and-component-ypbpr-converter-audio

I bought this now how do I get it to work?
I got a shitty HDMI to RCA thing but I wanted component input

>>4638043
It's a CRT, but one of the newer ones. It looks similar to the one I'm using now that I'm not perceiving any lag on. It does 50/60HZ rather than 100 too

Fucking 4MB limit, but looks great

Hey /crt/,
Do you guys use nesrgb? If so, what palette do you use?

>>4638068
Some CRTs are HDTV (they don't have scanlines), those have a bit of lag and light guns won't work on them

There are so many questions that keep getting asked over and over that just start a chain reaction of shit posting. Anyone want to update the FAQ? If I have time tomorrow, I might sit down and look through previous threads for frequent questions.

What’s the best\cheapest way to get an NES hooked up to a PVM via scart?

>>4638040
The thing in the picture there is just a cable, not a converter, it needs a device that does component video using the SCART connector, not the standard RGB over SCART.

>>4638245
Best is a NESRGB mod. Cheapest is just use composite video.

>>4638040
lol

>>4638043
Component input is not exclusive to HDTVs you know. In fact the set shown in >>4638068 does indeed look to be SD only.

>>4638248
This. It's probably designed to be used with a projector.

>>4638054
I assume your set only accepts SD and you're trying to feed it HDMI at 480p+. PC output by any chance? An HDMI to composite converter will downscale but HDMI to component generally won't. More setup info needed to be certain.

>>4638054
That thing doesn't convert resolution, if you're using an SD TV you'll need to convince your video card drivers to give out 480i/576i/240p/288p resolution

What are guys playing today this lazy Sunday?

First time playing through SotN at the moment.

How much did you guys spend on your CRT? I spent 600 dollars, totally worth it and since then I've definitely got my money's worth in personal entertainment.

Mine was also brand new and from 2005 (can you fucking believe that?) It's >>4638847

>>4638854
I have about 25 and counting. Most expensive was a KX-14CP1 at £60, cheapest was a KX-27PS1 at £5. Between those extremes I have many PVMs, BVMs and high end PC CRTs.

>>4638869
That's incredible, any pictures of your collection?

>>4638854
100 bucks. I didnt fall too deep into the meme.

>>4638847
Nice. Been wanting to play that. Waiting for my PSio to come in so i can. They are taking too long.

Anyone have any opinions on those HD Retrovisions component cables? I found a SD CRT with component slots and I was thinking of picking up some of those rather than hunting for a SCART CRT.

>>4638854
15 bucks

>>4638854
KV-25C5E with the price of carrying it two floors upstairs. I like it. Much better than the CRTs I had as a kid.

Good ole 24 inch toshiba.

>>4638854
$10

Don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>4627089
The X collection uses 240p?

>>4639279
If you can get them when they release them go for it. It make for a convenient set up. Otherwise a scart to component adapter will be just as fine.

>>4639562
Yeah, I was planning on stalking the sale page and getting one as soon as they go on sale. Not sure how popular they are.

>>4639547
Those 3D Link and Luigis look pretty nice.
My friend who keeps buying me things brought me two of those light-up pixel art statues. They look pretty neat when it's dark.

A gamecube SCART cable would be fine on an SNES, just like composite, right? I was looking at this one

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/packapunch-range/NINTENDO-GAMECUBE-PACKAPUNCH-PRO-RGB-SCART-CABLE/PAL-GAMECUBE-PACKAPUNCH-PRO-RGB-SCART-CABLE

>>4639625

Wait, thats PAL. I need NTSC

>>4639625
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-Scart-Cable-for-SNES-GameCube-N64-NTSC-Converter-Sync-Super-Nintendo-64/222658549230?epid=881763230&hash=item33d77bd5ee:g:4o4AAOSw3pVZy68L

This works fine.

>>4638854
$35 in monopoly money so far across five of them. I wont spend more than $20 on a single crt though.

>>4638854
Free

What should I be looking for display wise to play my Saturn and Dreamcast? The idea I get is that Dreamcast is best with a VGA setup but the Saturn doesn’t exactly play along with that, easily anyway. What’s a good display to get the best out of both consoles?

>>4638854
$50 for my PVM. $7 to rescue an 88 Trinitron from the goodwill. My other 3 CRTs were free.

>stop in to junk shop while im on vacation
>ask if they have TV's
>old church lady tells me she just threw all the old TV's out

I want your opinion, /crt/. My ex gf just told me shes getting rid of her Toshiba, it has component and looks similar to the one in >>4639547 on the left (Maybe a 24AF46?). I already have a 24" Sony WEGA, also with Component. They're both flat screens, however the geometry on my WEGA is pretty fucked, not unplayable just beyond my skill level to fix. Certain colors make the screen display weird curves (Apparently a problem with the old caps?), and the convergence is bad in the upper corners. I still want to test out the Toshiba before I swap, but I just want some thoughts on the trade. How does Toshiba's tubes stack up to a trini? If it has good geometry and all would it be about the same? Have stuck with Trinis for a while now and am interested how the competition stacks up. Picture comparisons would be nice.

Pic related, those health bars are supposed to be parallel.

>>4639879
Genesis/Saturn
>SCART/RGB/Component
Dreamcast
>VGA
Literally the best you can get out of them

I'm using a Sony WEGA playing a Genesis going form SCART to Component. Every game I play has a waving affect going on back and forth.
Is this a sync issue and how do I solve it?

>>4640115
Got pics/video?

>>4640216
It won't come out on either and I don't have a capture card.
It's most noticeable on static backgrounds.

>>4640115

If it is a FS100l model it may be the tilting circuit causing interference. Find the tilt in your menu and turn it to +5 or -5/min max. See if that changes it.

Additionally it may be your scart cable. If it isn't shielded properly and you are using sync on composite it is very easy to have this happen.

In about 2 hours Im picking up a Sony fw900, anything I should know, how heavy are these things to see if I can carry it myself ?

>>4640898
No you can't carry it.

Turn back now.

>>4640898
you need another person to carry that one mate

>>4638854
The one I use now was free. Around 10 years ago I bought a couple of REALLY big flat-tube JVCs for 50-ish bucks

>>4640952
You must be pretty weak if you can't carry an FW-900. It's a little less than a 27" Trinitron TV.

>>4640108
Dreamcast has hdmi boxes now. But its 480p through hdmi.

>>4641092
The shape and lack of handles makes it particularly awkward.

I can carry a 29" PVM despite weighing barely more than it does but I've had plenty of practice and it's a unit designed to be carted around on a regular basis.

The FW900 is deceptively bulky. I can carry it as long as terrain is flat. When I picked it, I played it safe and got the previous owner to help me for the stairs decent.

>>4641352
>29" PVM despite weighing barely more than it

Doesn't that weight like 50 kilos? Just how tiny are you?

This bootleg has no right to be so fun.

I pulled my old 1994 Sony Trinitron KV-20S10 from storage. Glad to see that it works. Anyone know anything about opening the cabinet and tuning the sharpness/colors etc?

Or anything about obtaining cheap a cheap s-video cable?

Sometimes the picture colors and brightness fluctuates when the composite cables are wiggled, probably just how it is.

Pic related but not the same model.

>>4641414
Are you using a GB flashcart on a super game boy cartridge?

>>4641592
Yeah. Everdrive GB. Love that fuckin' thing

>>4641638
Nice!

>>4641341
Do these look good?

>>4641679
Yes. Look em up on youtube. Called Akuma. Same guys who made all those really good dreamcast vga boxes

Hi, /crt/. I found a local listing for a PVM-14N5U monitor going for $75. The monitor would be a 14" monitor with 500 TVL, mono sound, and 2 S-Video/Component hookups.

While that obviously beats the scalper prices floating around eBay, is that actually worth picking up for an apartment setup when I already have pic related? Or does the lack of RGB defeat the purpose of getting a PVMeme?

>>4641864
s-video is good enough for me, but 8 inches isn't.

>>4641864
There's not really a point in getting a PVM if it doesn't have RGB, IMO. Might as well get a bigger consumer set, if you're only getting S-Video out of it.

>>4641407
5'10" 57kg :-)

inb4 >>>/fit/

>>4640927
>>4640952
>>4641092
>>4641357

I finally got it

it so nice when people are selling things they dont know nothing about ,when i first powered it up the black levels were way too bright ,so it thought the g2 trimmer on flyback needs to be adjusted, but then i tried image restore and it brought it back to spec and is fine now

>>4640952

judging from you're reply you're probably from Britain, which makes sense you cant carry it on your own cause Brits are cucks by gens

>>4642480
Judging by your post, you're either immensely thick or simply uneducated.

Ergo it stands to reason you would choose to undertake manual labour single-handedly rather than enlisting someone else to do it for you ;-)

0900 - sashimi and scanlines
weeb level - elevated

>>4642207
>5'10" 57kg :-)

Holy shit anon, you should start eating.

>>4642664
I eat plenty, believe me, but both side of my family are wiry build.

As long as I can lug around <29" CRTs that's good enough for me.

>>4642790
Well alright! Snap a pic next time you lug that 2950q somewhere you could be a covergirl by /crt/ standards

I got a kv-36xbr200, has component. If I get a scart cable for let's say my ps2 then a scart to component adapter am I getting RGB? Does the scart to component adapter add any lag?

>>4642870
>retard babbage thinks anon was posting a pic of themselves and not a random porn star
>trying this hard to flirt on the internet

>>4642913
Sorry I don't instantly recognize porn stars. Rather surprising that girl is one day-sue. I do like to encourage any and all femanons though.

>>4642981
"Women are one of my hobbies"
- Babbage Pumpkin-Pussy Baby Pants

got a cvm 1271 recently (it was free so I figured why not) and it has a pretty annoying stretch to the picture. if you look at the zigzagging by the black in pic related you can sort of see where it's stretches at the top and squished at he bottom. is there an easy way to adjust the picture? do I need to open up the back and fix stuff that way? using RF btw because I don't have the right cables for anyhing else at the moment

>>4642983
I like them even more than video games

>>4643096
>I like them even more than video games
Well gramps, maybe one day you'll even get to have sex with one. Watching the bull doesn't count, by the way.

>>4643096
well aren't you just a unique specimen. unfortunately for you this board IS about video games and IS NOT about "encouraging le femanons". go back to /soc/ and orbit some more faggot

>>4642870
Stop hitting on me you silly boy ;-)

It's a 2950QM btw and I also like to lug my 27" Profeel around which weighs about as much thanks to the 1/4" sheet of toughened glass mounted in front of the screen.

>>4628767
why this image remind me of the krabs me me

>>4630897
it's worth at least $500. you've hit the jackpot!!!!

this is my 20L2MD

nice monitor but the picture was taken with a crap camera.

>>4642198
Well he just said it has Component, which implies it has RGB through the same connectors.

>>4642191
Don't think it was pic related, check file name.

>>4641864
Yeah, it doesn't have Component. Also those are one input and one output, not two hookups. The jump from 8" to 14" is great, considering you get scanlines if you're interested. Definitely is a hell of a lot more playable, and that's not too bad a price. I would say get it, and stay on the lookout for a RGB/Component model and sell off the N5U when you find it.

Pic related, my setup. 14 inches is fantastic at a desk. Directly to the left is my computer.

>>4643105
These shots in the dark are truly hilarious, though it troubles me that people like you are even in the /crt/ thread now

>>4643112
"White knighting" is quite different from "orbiting" although I suppose theoretically they can coexist

>>4643208
Now you're starting to smell like a dude and 5'10" would be pretty tall for a girl. That's shockingly light though. You're probably that one with the polka dot leggings. Why are there so many transexuals on /vr/?

>>4643082
The control you want is vertical linearity. Can't find a free manual, I suspect it'll be a potentiometer inside.

>>4643628
>Don't think it was pic related, check file name.
i meant,
14 inch s-video > 8 inch RGB, OP should buy

>>4643628
>Well he just said it has Component, which implies it has RGB through the same connectors.
This is almost definitely a typo, since the N-Series doesn't have component support at all. The N2 and N6 both support RGB, but the N5 is stuck with just C-Vid and S-Vid.

I'd say try and talk them down a bit, perhaps closer to $50, but there are worse deals out there. S-Video on that set would still look rather nice.

>obtain PVM
>have to spend $303.03 in fully shielded cabled for all RGB capable consoles
>still have to mod a few

Hooowee

>>4643783
Fall for the meme, pay the toll.

>>4643783
Make your own cables then.

>>4643653
Any idea what I should look for when I open it up? I could only find a manual for the 1271Q, but hopefully its the same basic info. Also, this is unrelated but I get a lot of visual noise with RF. If I use a better connection type that should go away no? I don't know how many hours the monitor has on it, and I really hope the noise isnt coming from the monitor itself.

>>4643278
>>4643323
>>4643628
These look great

>>4643096
Judging from you wife, you don’t have great taste in them.
Still got my nut off to her though LOL.

>>4643629
>Now you're starting to smell like a dude
Now? Your olfactory senses must be fucked from sniffing your own farts, cabbage Pants. I never implied I was anything BUT a man, you made that assumption all by yourself.

Keep digging yourself a hole though, it's really rather amusing.

>>4643940
>5'10"
>125 lbs
>a man

>>4644002
A whole world exists outside the United States of Obesity, you know?

>>4644047
Doubtful. Obesity rates are up. People that are 5'10" @ 125 think they are healthy. The whole world is fucked with people that can't manage daily activity and eating.

>>4643278
How did you take this photo?

Here is my PVM. It's a 2044QM

>>4643882
Anything else you might be interested in?

This is just my old ~2.5 year old+ stuff.
Still sorting newer stuff with the better camera.

>>4644298
Nice exposure. Getting both the screen and everything around it properly exposed can be a real bother.

>>4644292
Just dropping by to say I'm 6ft and 220 lbs strong. I move arcade cabinets up and down stairs alone without a dolly. Highly recommend lifting a shit ton and eating a shit ton.

>>4644323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW9cnAbiyrA

>>4644321
It was kinda luck. I'm not that good at taking pictures to be honest. I just use my phone.

Got finally RGB cable for my Super Famicom. Seems like I made slight mistake, this is an NTSC cable so I guess the black bars are because of it? At least I can grab some 75 ohm resistors tomorrow

>>4644537
black bars is because you're getting 16/9 mode by feeding only 5v to pin 8.
use your remote to force 4/3 mode.

>>4644292
> 5'10" @ 125 think they are healthy.
Are you saying that a 5'10'' man that weighs 125 pounds is overweight? Are you legitimately retarded?

>>4644547
Well then, sucks to be since I don't have remote - my stepdad lost it ages ago before I got this televeision off from him.

>>4644563
get a universal remote, which hopefuly has a ratio button.
what brand is it ?

>>4644563
You may need to add a battery or external power to force 4:3 then.

>>4644323
>I move arcade cabinets up and down stairs alone without a dolly.
Those must be some small arcade cabinets.

>>4644576
Thomson 21MG132
>>4644582
I wonder if I could just get the +12v off from pin 3 on NTSC console?

>>4644590
ntsc consoles have csync on pin 3.

>>4644549
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that anon meant he’s severly under weight. That’s the weight of a 5’7 woman.

>>4644591
Better start searching compatible remote then I guess.

>>4644601
looks like a common remote, you should have no problem finding one.
a universal with all buttons might work too

>>4644596
I'm not really sure what he meant, the way he said it made it seem like anyone who's 5'10'' and 125 is disillusioned into thinking they are a healthy weight when in reality they are overweight. I hope he meant the opposite but if not, that's mega retarded.

>>4644591
You could use csync to get ~9V by using it to drive a voltage doubler. Just takes two caps and two diodes, that should also be enough to switch to 4:3

>>4644623
>babbage
>mega retarded
did you not expect this?

>>4643783
Buy cheap cables instead of falling for the meme. Just because a youtube channel recommends $30 cables doesn't mean you need them

Let's just finish up and agree that 5'10" 57kg is skeletor tier.

>>4644720
Let's not eh?

>>4644627
I'm not even the one who said it but...

>>4644623
It seems perfectly obvious to me what he meant

>/vr/ - Where someone who can deadlift their own weight with no issue is made fun of by fat NEETs.

I know we've run out of things to discuss but this is bordering on the ridiculous.

>>4644637
>instead of falling for the meme. Just because a youtube channel recommends $3

This exactly, I have all cheap cables and no jailbars or audio noise whatsoever. Maybe a framemester is super sensitive to cables, but pvm/bvm/consumer crts are not. The most expensive cable I own is $12.

>>4645094
>being literally incapable of carrying your own weight
The reason CRTs (and arcade cabs) are difficult to move is their unwieldiness - most have poor handholds, are extremely unbalanced and of course very fragile thus the reason for things like dollies and crates. Male or female, unless you're under 5 years old or over 80 if you can't deadlift a barbell your own weight there's something wrong with you

Someone selling this Trinitron for $50 near me, should I go for it, /vr/?

>>4645409
There are some real Wega haters on /vr/ and the price is a bit high by my estimates but it is quite a large Trinitron so if that's what you want and you don't want to wait around, go for it but be aware that it weighs a ton.

>>4645420
I've had $50 set aside for a CRT for awhile, it's been the max I want to pay. I have the room, CRT is set up at the end of my bed and even if it's bigger than what I have now. Just wondering if the picture/sound is nice. Planning on plugging an RGB modded N64 and my SNES into it.

>>4645434
Sound is much better on those ones than curved screen models (bigger, side mounted speakers). Picture is similar with somewhat worse corner geometry on Wegas because of the flat screen which is more pronounced the larger it is. They're also deeper and heavier than curved screen models which also geometrically intensifies with size thanks to cube/square law.

>>4645409
Enjoy your back pain.

>>4644563
Look up your model number on the internet for it's remote and put that in ebay. You may get lucky and get a cheap fix. There are tons of used remotes there.

>>4645385
So as I can deadlift an unwieldy load of equal weight to myself, you're now saying I'm perfectly normal and there was no need for the aforementioned piss-taking?

Glad we cleared that up.

Have a question for the anon with the framemeister.

The hdmi input. Does it upscale anything through there or is it simply a pass through? For example a 480/720 signal through hdmi up to 1080?

>>4646193
I have honestly never used it. I'd think most TVs would be able to handle the upscaling of a digital source like that with little issue, so why would you rely on the Framemeister to do it?

>>4646325
Was just curious. Thought it was odd that it has 2 hdmi inputs. Didnt know what it did with them. Couldnt find any info while searching.

I’m getting my first RGB (as opposed to s-video) CRT soon, I have a feeling I’ll be disappointed

>>4646358
What kind of monitor is it? What kind of shape is it in?

The thing I hate that people can't seem to understand is that you can't judge an entire format, unilaterally, by only using the example you have. RGB on a 20-year-old monitor that was beat to shit obviously isn't going to look as good as S-video on a late model CRT that was gently used. Video quality on this kind of old technology is a crapshoot, but on monitors of comparable quality, RGB is a noticeable step up, unless you're one of those ignorant memers who only forked over the cash for an RGB monitor because a youtuber told you to.

>>4646384
5” monitor to fill the empty space in pic related. I think it’ll look good

>>4646396
>5"
You only have yourself to blame. Of course you won't be able to tell the difference. At 5" it's basically a placebo, and those monitors were likely only made RGB-capable so they could be daisy-chained to other RGB monitors for production purposes. Only reason to buy one that size is just for shits, or to fill out an empty space in a monitor bank, so it'll at least do that.

>>4646409
RGB has a benefit at any size. It is more than just sharpness and accuracy.

>>4646431
Do tell.

>>4646458
Well it negates any regional encoding differences for one.

No more black and white NTSC games for Europeans.

>>4645775

post tits or gtfo

>>4646547
I have a concave chest, remember?

>>4645775
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogistic_fallacy

>>4646541
It does? That's kind of cool, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things, I mean, unless you're in Europe. Is that it?

Also, how does RGB increase "accuracy"? I'm not sure what you mean there. Your TV would have to have some phenomenally bad convergence (or be fuckhuge) before the quality difference between S-Video and RGB became enough to affect how you perceive hitboxes/pixels.

>>4646572
I'm not the original anon who brought up accuracy but it seems clear to me that they were referring to colour accuracy as RGB inputs generally bypass all colour adjustments and display the source directly.

Once your display is calibrated that's it, you get exactly what the developers intended.

>>4646552
Why don't you just fuck off now?

Nobody likes you here you stupid cunt.

>>4646541
So... that's it?

Picked up this sweet KV-32S42 off Craigslist for free, almost brand new condition, remote included.

>>4646670
You keep saying that as if it bothers me

>>4646760
It obviously bothers you or you wouldn't reply to every single comment calling you a faggot. kill yourself

>>4638854
Payed $20 at a second hand store for the Wega KV-32FS120 at the other end of the room, and the Diamond Pro 2070SB closest in the picture was free just had to drive about an hour away

>>4646695
Cool. why do you have a tent inside?

>>4646792
>cognitive dissonance
You're using contradictory rationale within a single reply chain, Anon. You're going to give yourself schizophrenia.

>>4646874
I think even if you dropped the tripfag act you'd still be a detriment to this board. Please go find another forum to shit up, like Neogaf or something.

>>4646876
wanna know how I know you're from /v/?

>>4646863
It's my wife's son's. I have a little 15" ViewSonic lcd and a retron set up in there for him.

>>4646874
I'm not the same person you were talking to before. I'm not a tripfag so maybe you couldn't tell.

Hands up everyone who genuinely appreciates Cabbage Pants' contributions to this board and believes his use of a persistent identity is justified.

Sock puppets need not apply.

>>4646913
>15" ViewSonic lcd and a retron set up in there for him.

You seem like a nice mom's husband.

>>4646953

He brings the best bait. I appreciate him and the bants.

>>4646953
I used to think it was fun how we could all unite to hate him, but then it wore off and now I just want him gone.
Even if he were to take off the trip, we'd probably still know his posts from how stupid he is.

>>4644293
low light using a small lamp off to the right about 2 1/2 feet away, turned contrast down some, then took about 5-10 pictures carefully and picking the best one.

if i had a better camera i'm sure better results would be possible

Coolpix L620

>>4646550
prove it faggot

Probably a stupid question but what exactly is y cb cr? Will component cables work with them?

>>4647753
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCbCr
You will typically get yPbPr over component. They are the same thing except one is for analogue and one is for digital.

is it possible to find a crt that has s-video and vga for under $600?

>>4648267
Yes, many mid 2000s HD CRTs. They're shit for retro though.

Does JP21 carry the same quality as SCART?

>>4648372
Yes, JP21 does also support RGB. It's exactly the same thing except that the pinout is different.

>tfw has two (2) SNES scary cables years before I became a CRT autist
>sacrificed them both to make a FDS to PC adapter
Was it at least a worthy trade?

>>4648480
*had, SCART

Thinking of buying a 1084s, but I'm an ausfag and they all say they're 50hz. If I plug in my Super Famicom will they have any trouble playing 60hz games?

>>4646396
What size are those?

>>4646914
If you say so. Far be it from me to imply that each and every post is anything short of a discrete Anon.

>>4646953
Ooo me!

>>4646996
All the bantz are in an effort to bring it back, the authenticity. BITD the pencil necks avoided sticking them out and the dudes in dresses appreciated the irony

4647008
You haven't even the slightest inkling of how stupid I am. Stupid fresh

>>4648497
They run 60Hz video fine, may need to adjust geometry when switching between 50/60Hz sources though. You will need to use RGB to get colour.

Will a crt display anything on the screen if not connected to anything? Just picked one up. It powers on but i currently dont have anything that uses the connections it has.

>>4648631
No generally spaking. Surely you’ve used one before?

>>4648637
Yeah but its been a fuckin while. Well over a decade. Dont really remember how they acted while unconnected as i always had something connected to them.

>>4648631
Depends on the display. If it's an arcade monitor or an old school computer monitor (something with dials/pots and no digital adjustments) then probably not. Most do have some buttons but if yours did I presume you would have pushed them before you bought it.

>>4648631
TV mode (rf) should show static
Aux (composite) should show black or blue

The ol' switcheroo.

>>4648786
we doing extreme closeups now?

>>4648798
yeah

What's the best scart to vga adapter? Getting a 1084s soon but it's the one with a vga port

>>4649078
It's not a "VGA" port.

You'll need this one:
https://retro-access.com/collections/other/products/db9-to-scart-for-atari-5200-sophia-board

>>4649078
1084 accepts csybc over the pin for horizontal sync. the pins are online if you look up the manual. the commodore also does RGBHV so it's perfect to hook up to a pc with crt_emudriver

Does anyone know if new tvs with vga support will display an odd resolution like 720x480, or will it alter it to 640x480?

>>4648480
>>4648481

>>4648543
8" 8040 and 14" 14n5u

>>4649720
Thanks.

>>4649486
Assuming you mean consumer HD TVs, they'll sample the same horizontally no matter what horizontal resolution your VGA source is giving out.

>>4644537
>>4644547
>>4644576
>>4644582
>>4644591
So thanks guys, went and got me a remote(found the original remote at my mother's house) and can't honestly complain about the picture quality now.

>>4650878
Here's closeup

My favorite CRT was working great for a long time, but one day it turned into this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYRQE90Yye8&

What the fuck is wrong with my monitor?

What are some good crts I could look for with vga input? Any tvs or just pc monitors? What are good monitors to look out for?
I have all my other consoles covered with 240p, but when it comes to 480p for my dreamcast, I have nothing.