/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[03-04] Ex-3D Realms staff have early builds of both DNF and DN3D, but Randy Pitchford is practically blocking their releases
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/have-any-of-the-builds-of-duke-nukem-forever-ever-leaked.120567/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4618653/#4622548

[03-03] Talan.wad update
http://www.mediafire.com/file/iw60luu0hgaq5z5/Talan.pk3

[03-02] Duke Nukem 3D TC 'Total Meltdown' released
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/9918-release-duke-nukem-total-meltdown-tc-v10/

[03-01] Trailer for Ion Maiden, a game using the Build engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcAwzusZUrQ

[02-25] Anon release: Talan.wad, a partial conversion
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fvyse09knxhwj1k/Talan.wad

[02-24] Anon map release: Breaking Point
https://mega.nz/#!udgS3DKT!YpoF8htxCYfbmLWvWjA9pdnqobFMUrsrnlLebm1dd3Q

[02-21] Anon map update: Dance of Death fixes
https://mega.nz/#!TcQ00agC!1ofVphEcB5OwbSa2qug5gCvWlQbGEXL-1AmoH3rwSeo

[02-20] Anon map update: Wild West Deathmatch 2
http://www.mediafire.com/file/b46c25t152x5duw/WWDM2.wad

[02-20] Anon map update: Dark7 Europa v1.1
https://mega.nz/#!CRpjBRzQ!C-3q27FS6jhE91aw7mqeGI69Bpyy86ft2yBUoxvyb-k

[02-19] Half Nuked (A Duke Nukem 3d Mod for Classic HL) released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/half-nuked

[02-19] Quake 2 High Resolution Weapon Pack released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/quake2-remodel

[02-19] Tekwar GDX announced
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/19/william-shatners-tekwar-lives-again-for-some-reason/

[02-18] La Tailor Girl v1.45 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1040793#p1040793

[02-18] Anon mod test build released, with request for feedback
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4594881#p4597120

[02-18] Universal Gibs updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59260

[02-18] Golden Souls 2 map37 sneak peak
https://youtu.be/VoT4sf4DMIA

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How'd you rank the episodes of Duke 3D? I'm playing through for the first time and didn't find Episode 2 that spectacular.

>>4623998
3 > 4 > 1 > 2
But that's just me

Any working download for powerslave ex?
I don't know why but I can't find one up anymore

How close is the new GMOTA to release?

>>4624038
pretty damn close.
https://my.mixtape.moe/izjbop.webm

I gotta finish this trailer, get the Cybermancer's behavior wrapped up,

>>4624042
and fail to finish my sentences too, apparently. But yeah wrap up the Cybermancer and slightly lower the melee threshold of the bonelord to make sure you don't get clobbered in a tight spawn like 13 angry archviles

>>4624042
>>4624045
Good. Can't wait to see what is new.

From the previous Thread in regards to Heretical Doom:

>>4623793

>I remember you asked for input on-stream and I gave you a short summary of my thoughts. And a couple other chat members said they'd play it and tell you things as well.
Has nobody gotten back to you? If so, I'll play it for either next game night or next next game night.

Nah, nobody got back to me :( I did actually take your advice into the update for the monster pack and made a CVAR that affects the sabreclaw's stealth ability as well, the v0.3 monster addon was just updated a few days ago to add a lot more customization.

Anyone have an issue with eDuke32 stuttering? I have no idea why this would happen as I am well past the requirements. It feels slow and unresponsive, like it's having a hard time keeping up with the speed of the game.

>>4623917
I did eventually manage to get custom graphics loaded (both ibar/sbar and conchars), but (unless someone's found an easier way) it takes like four different programs all spitting out files to each other because of the outdated file formats and some editors just not liking some files no matter what. There's also still a couple limitations, namely the palette (which can also be changed, but some editors have it hard-coded in so you have to hack THOSE too, and then generate a new colormap if you want to stay software-compatible, and don't forget this'll fuck with every existing texture anyway) and that the two background bars and the floating elements are anchored at the top-left, so making them larger than the default dimensions will just underlay the other elements or extend off to the right.

From what I remember reading, Darkplaces has some HUD changes available and there's also the various custom HUDs for modern Quakeworld engines (ezquake/nquake, etc) like the 'floating bars' for health/armor or the weapons bar on the right, but for vanilla-oriented NetQuake engines, you're stuck with the three basic HUD layouts (id1, hipnotic, rogue) and that's it because they're part of the engine itself and aren't controlled by QuakeC.

>>4623924
No idea, sock's site lists 1.70 patch 1 as the latest version and calls it a finished mod, which might actually be true this time given ad-Sepulcher was the big tease in previous versions and so far as I know they finished adding all the replacement (more detailed) weapon viewmodels, worldmodels and enemy models.

>>4624147
Oh, also forgot: because the status bars, etc. are stored in gfx.wad instead of as individual files, you have to copy the entire .wad and just replace the files you want changed; if you only include the files you want, the game will immediately crash because it's loading it in place of the vanilla gfx.wad (instead of alongside) and it can't find the console characters font file. This can probably be avoided by sticking loose files in a mod directory someplace, but I like nice, organized .pak files.

the highly acclaimed sequel to "eight rockets": SIX SHELLS

>>4624176

>>4624176
what map is this

>>4624193
Corporeal Millhouse 6's testing map included with Dural Boom.

>>4624176
Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

>>4624180
that was cool

>>4624018
1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 > 4 > 3

Episode 1 is miles better than anything else.

>>4624176
Brutal Doom is too hard for /vr/.

>>4624234
In fact, Allen Blum's maps (mostly episode 1 and episode 2) are far better than the rest of the work. even episode 5 shines with his maps like Golden Carnage.

Anyone interested in doing some Samsara DM? If so, which map pack should I pick?

>>4624237
*Brutal Doom chaingunners

>>4624212
don't you mean, that was brutal?

>>4624176
And Private Pedro has the gall to call US scrubs.

oh yeah, noclipping through glass is potentially lethal

>>4624176
>Tfw a brutal cyberdemon is as easy to kill as a vanilla hell knight
And people think this is the definitive way to play doom.

>>4624261
/vr/ does complain about BD chaingunners being too hard.

>>4624273
>even just boarding those shiny new vehicles would kill you

>>4624285
vr complains about the balance being retarded.
Weak units become strong, strong become weak, weapon balance is thrown away.
Corporal Pendejo took one word out of the long list of criticism out of context and ran with it.

Just a friendly reminder that the human trash that use CamelCase or even camelCase in acs or decorate or zscript when they have no case sensitivity will be first against the wall

>>4624292
Too bad, it's easier to read

>>4624018
Most people don't seem to like Episode 2 very much. I found the Warp Speed level really obnoxious with all the kamikaze drones hidden behind corners and wall indents.

>>4624249
How does gothic99 sound?

>>4624285
Some people complain about all chaingunners.

I never complain because hitscanners aren't a problem to me.

>>4624285
except brutal v21 chaingunners are fucking wimps
these are both on UV

>>4624354
but how does their accuracy differ?

>>4624354
>barrel has a muzzle flash even before the guy starts shooting

>>4624354
>that grenade icon on the border of the hud

>>4624358
vanilla chaingunners: 22.5 degree spread, hitscan
brutal doom chaingunners: 9 degree horizontal spread, 2 degree vertical spread, projectile that moves 60 units/tic

you can circlestrafe brutal doom chaingunners and they will hit you maybe once.

>>4624354

why are these shotguns vibrating
are the shotguns demons too

>>4624420
They're cold. Go find them a blanket to share.

Speedmapping is pretty fun.

>>4624434
who is crash calling a cutie, doomguy is gonna be mad

>>4624439
I think I should just change all my bots out to nazi chaingunners and such. They seem to be the least retarded zandrobots.

>>4624420
They're excited about shooting demons

>>4624434
Hosting this on Zandronum. SpeedOfDeathmatch on Doomseeker. Made the map in probably less than an hour.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qy7dwdnp4nwlofz/SpeedOfDeath.wad

>>4624472
think I'll pass.

>>4624474
How come?

>>4624472
Hopefully this is still up in like an hour. It's not often I see people willing to play dm in these threads.

>>4624472
It's not very fun. The SSG platform lowering at random(?) times just makes whoever gets it snowball for the rest of the match. Spawning it with a Soulsphere just makes that advantage last even longer. Space out your items.

>>4624042
>Cybermancer
is that the cyberdemon replacement, whose sprites are now from pyspy?

>>4624553
I'll replace the ssg with a chaingun. I fucking hate the ssg anyway.

>>4624420
they're crying because their carrier died :c

>>>/wsg/2134880
>realistic difficulty

>>4624589
lol wut

>>4624589
>shot at window
>shards of glass completely obliterates the player and rends him limb to limb

What could be done to this layout to improve it?

>>4624589
>That ammo counter with a completely different design obscuring the arms panel
>That uggo ass hires font

>>4624589
amazing

>>4624589
why do you have 26 arms

>>4624619
bd's code is so "mutated", doomguy might as well be an x-man now

>>4624624
his super power is the ability to say "fuck" on tv

>>4624608
Give us a 3d view of what you've got so far.

>>4624636

>>4624608
I think it's too symmetrical.

>>4624608
>>4624640
what is this garbage

>>4624608
Symmetry should generally be avoided for single player maps, and should be probably be broken up in MP maps (with texture use, or by keeping the same general layout and changing the details).

Also it doesn't look like there's much to do other than run in circles.

>>4624608
learn to use the fucking grid. FUCK

>>4624669
grids are for kids

>>4624671
You think that shit looks good?

>>4623970
OK 3 questions: 1) Why wasn't Duke Nukem 2 ever ported to the Amiga nor the Acorn Archimedes?
2) In Quake1 can the Cthton be harmed by the nailgun, super nailgun, grenade launcher or rocket launcher, or no?
3) What is the floating greyish object seen at the end of the 4th episode of Quake1 during the fight against Shub-Niggurath?

>>4624685
>2) In Quake1 can the Cthton be harmed by the nailgun, super nailgun, grenade launcher or rocket launcher, or no?
no, Chthon can't be hurt by normal attacks.
>3) What is the floating greyish object seen at the end of the 4th episode of Quake1 during the fight against Shub-Niggurath?
The Spiked Sphere floats around the arena, it's linked to a teleport that if it passes through Shub and the player jumps through the linked teleport it frags lil shubby

>>4624685
1) Dunno.
2) No, you gotta step on the buttons and lower the pylons, then shock him a few times to kill him.
3) It's basically a spot where you teleport to when you step into the slipgate. You have to use it to telefrag the final boss, which is the only way to kill it.

>>4624683
it looks like artistic freedom
it looks like an 8 that got impaled

>>4624685
>1)
probably the same reason why Duke Nukem 1 wasn't ported either - it just wasn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>4624669
I was told not to make use of orthogonal geometry.

What Duke 3D maps would you reccomend?

>>4624715
>I was told not to make use of orthogonal geometry.
They probably meant "don't make boxes upon boxes"

That doesn't mean make wonky looking pieces of shit

>>4624723
But I wasn't making "boxes" either.

>>4624075

Guess I'll play it for this week's game night, then.
You have a mapset you suggest playing it with?

>>4624730
wonky rectangles aren't much of a step up

>>4624176
Tried the railgun yet? Kills Spider Masterminds with TWO hits.

>>4624715
enjoy your texture alignment hell

>>4624715
I made a whole map recently where maybe one or two rooms were aligned to grid, or some easy angle.

Fuck that. Orthogonal is fine so long as it's not every room being at 90 degrees to grid. Mix it up a little, but don't do it unnecessarily. There's not enough variation in your map to make it worth it.

>>4624773
That's why I use textures that most people don't notice when unaligned, such as stucco, compblue, or the wooden textures.

>>4624782
ashwall3 is the best for this

>>4624787
But that's wrong, all the ashwall textures are an eyesore when used for large parts of level geometry. Stucco is the best for skimping on texture alignment, as it's not too hard on the eyes and literally no one can care enough to align it.

>>4624793
>But that's wrong
i don't see how. ashwall3 is a very dark pattern of noise, so rarely are any misalignments noticed.
>all the ashwall textures are an eyesore when used for large parts of level geometry
that's true enough, but irrelevant to my statement. it remains the case that ashwall3 is a great choice for a texture that doesn't need alignment. as such ashwall3/flat10 are great as defaults/placeholders.

>>4624685
>2) In Quake1 can the Cthton be harmed by the nailgun, super nailgun, grenade launcher or rocket launcher, or no?
Not in the base game, but some maps make use of a hacked info_notnull entity to make a Chthon that takes normal damage. Usually if there's no buttons to press to trigger the normal lighting, you probably have to kill it the hard way.

Does GZDB take a second to create geometry for anyone else?

>>4623970
What would happen to the doomworld, voat, qaddicted, and 4chan communities for DOOM if AVGN went ahead with an episode about bad retro game mods like TerryWADs?

>>4624968
nothing

faggot got himself banned off zdoom forums cause he was acting like a representative

not that it's hard to get banned there

ah, i get it, it took me a minute there.

>>4624968
he already did an episode of the castlevania mod, so this has already happened

>>4624974
wait what.

>>4624974
who got banned from zdoom forums for overtly acting like a representative?

>>4624953
For me, only on very large UDMF maps.

>>4624985
>>4624987

not true; it's basically a troll attempt

Any way to do fog in doom builder without scripting?

>>4624985
>>4624987


I would find the old posts for you but they purged banned accounts. So if you try to view his profile you just get "user does not exist."

Here's two examples of him acting like a tit:

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26320
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=22388&start=150 (read prev page)

>>4625009
>AVGN even knowing about doom forums and source ports when his Doom 1 and Simon's Destiny playthrough videos showed he was a complete and utter newbie who barely knew anything about Doom and its community, let alone joining zdoom forums and still prefers console controllers over kb+m
I highly doubt that's him.

>>4625009
you couldn't be more transparent if you even tried

>>4624968
if literally who did literally what

>>4625008
Transparent walls out in the distance?

>>4625008
I don't know which version you're using but in GZDB you can set it in sector properties.
The fade property controls the color, and the density property controls the... density.

>>4625034
What?

>>4625043
I'm using GZBuilder. I'm still learning, thanks for your patience.

I'm trying to make an intro where the player is being hunted in some dark, foggy woods, he is then led out from it and then sees a dark, dimly lit temple in the distance, which contextually is the entrance to the hub from where he'll be able to access the other stages. I tried many things to make it work but I just can't pull it. I tried making a labyrinth with woods.jpg texture but it looked way too shitty. Then I mixed 3d and 2d background trees and still nope.

I want something like Ghoul's Forest 3 but I didn't want to straight rip it off. I also want to know if having a scene where the player is being hunted instead of hunting (which goes straight against what Doom stands for) is a good idea.

Any tips? Here are some pics of what I've gotten so far:

>>4625025
that word doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>4625043
btw the fog instructions worked, thanks!

I can't possibly be the only one who has ever played this, can I?

Also this game was fairly superior than Wolfenstein 3D!

It's so fucking fun having to hold shift to move at a reasonable pace and being knocked back by half of enemy hits. Not to mention being forced to read e-mails to find codes for ammo necessary to play the game without your fists.

>>4625102
I don't think I ever unlocked a box and still had a ridiculous amount of ammo, especially shotgun shells.

>>4625129
BFG edition or original? The BFG edition like doubled the amount of ammo

>>4625134
original, played it like 10 years ago, pirated.

Why did they make another Doom movie if they had already made one?

>>4625080
Trial and error my dude.
Here's something I'm working on. I hope you can see, it's a bit on the dark side.
The 3d and 2d background trees is the route I've seen most people go, its just a matter of depth, texture choice and screwing with lighting and fog until it looks right.

>>4625147
Those 45 seconds they filmed in first person made the whole ordeal worth it. Should've been the whole movie like that.

>>4625094
I've never even seen that one, how's it like?

At any rate, Wolfenstein 3D really set the tone when it came out, it impressed people, but it's also a relatively simple game.
If you do a game with a similar setup for gameplay, but add more depth to it, it's easy to (at least conceptually) reach something that's better.
If you look at Rise Of The Triad (initially conceptualized as a sequel to Wolfenstein 3D), that game would use the same engine as base, but become a vastly more complex and interesting game, with a lot of character on it's own.

It never got as much attention, and while Wolfenstein 3D is one of my childhood favorites, I'll say with all honesty that Rise Of The Triad does everything it does better.

>>4625149
Yikes. I wish my maps could look like that.

>>4625094
There was a color version as well. I think it was on one of my galaxy of game cds.

>>4625147
Event Horizon better captured some of the horror elements of Doom than the Doom movie, while Ghosts Of Mars better captured the action, monsters, violence and rock music.

Both are sort of flawed in one way or another, but also very entertaining, with good visuals.

>>4625153
Wolfenstein 3D's simplicity is why I think for most people it's only really worth playing the original 3 episodes to really experience the game's worth and get their fun out of it. Playing it as an adult, the game is fun and engaging enough up until you kill Hitler, but after this point it quickly starts to become very not interesting and not fun.

The Nocturnal Missions expansion doesn't strictly do much new things, and a lot of the levels are pretty dull, particularly in the 6th episode, featuring some of the worst slogs.
Spear Of Destiny has a neat premise and does one or two small new things, but it also isn't anything mindblowing, I'd say it's worth it for a challenge, I'd recommend it over Nocturnal Missions
The FormGen expansions are not very good, and does nothing particularly new, basically just rethreading and reskinning Spear Of Destiny with levels that aren't that impressive, and a pretty bad sound design.

>>4625149
Fucking teach me. How did you achieve this? All I can you're using fog, but how did you do the light thing?

>>4625149
Or at least let me look into your .wad to see what I can learn, pretty please

Is Brutal Doom still classified as a retro game even though it has moding?

>>4624554
Yes indeed.

This might not count as "retro," but what's the most modern FPS to have a source port?

>>4625236

No.
Doom is the game, Brutal Doom is a mod for a retro game.

>>4625258
Q3A, possibly, with both official (Quake Live) and unofficial (ioQuake3/Spearmint).

has anybody ported Earthbound Doom to GZDoom?

>>4625201
quick tips
1. Treat your 2d trees like the backdrop on a stage. The further back they are, the better. The more stuff you have creating depth in front of them the better.
2. Maybe get a darker forest texture from a more ground level perspective. Darker textures look better in general IMO.
3. Try a dark blue, almost black sector light and fade, with a low fog density (10-20). Keep the actual sector brightness around 170-200.
4. Seriously just keep messing with stuff until it looks right, there is no hard and fast answer.

>>4625308
those are some big, painted nails for an 8 year old girl.

//Note - text review is accompaniment to video review and not meant as a substitute. If you'd like me to play+review your map check bottom of post

FDA - Chill Base

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDtnF84Kqg

Chill base is techbase boom map by Glaice originally meant for a 6 map set but has been released as a standalone map. It's a typical early map techbase but executed well.

It's more detailed than the other Glaice maps I've played so far but keeps the classic charm. It's also a lot nastier when it comes to traps without throwing a load of monsters at you at once.

The map has good progression where it naturally leads you to previous areas rather than forcing you backtrack with a nice little loop.

I'd say this is one of my favorite maps by Glaice that I've played so far. It's bite sized Doom fun and I recommend giving it a playthrough.

Download: https://www.doomworld.com/files/file/19042-chill-base/

DW Thread to submit maps (my preferred submission style): https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/99183-looking-to-play-and-record-your-maps/?page=5

Email address for submission can be found here: https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/171213557334/fdas-and-reviews

>>4625358

>actually looked like
>brutal doom

>>4625358
What is the deal with voxels? I'm a youngfag so I'm not knowledgeable myself, but it doesn't seem like something that would ever actually be used in a retro game since they massively increase the vertex count compared to standard polygons.

>>4625310
Alright but the 10-20 fog is in percentage right? I don't know if that's GZDoom Builder but I need to put fog in at least 100 to be barely visible.

>>4625391
They've been used in classic shooters before, Blood and Shadow Warrior for example, though they used them for pickup sprites, keys, and locks

>>4625358
>sprites applied to flats and glow lighting
nope

>>4625391
Outlast used them for terrain and some buildings, to good effect. Look up ken silvermans voxel tech. Pretty neat stuff

>>4625392
The area you see in that shot is a lot larger than it looks, so for a smaller scale yes you should have a higher fog value. It goes up to 500 or so, which is like london pea soup can't see shit mode. Just play with it and see what happens.

>>4625376
that's one of my favorite trollposts

>>4625391
Voxels aren't supposed to be 3d models, GZDoom's implemention of them is just very, very stupid.

Terminous Doom.

>>4625531
mm yes circlejerk scribbles are my favorite kind of poor art
please tell us what the actual fuck that miasma of unholy attention on the left is supposed to be

>>4625538
damn dude who the hell pissed in your cornflakes

>>4625561
He's a shit artist who shouldn't be posting anymore.

Here's an off-the-wall question I haven't been able to find an answer for and don't want to delve into func_ for a-searching. Darkplaces is known to mess with Quake in various minor ways, but are there any entity behaviors or interactions where it reliably causes incorrect or just different behavior from a standard NetQuake sourceport? Something similar to the 'enemies don't drop from the ceiling' behavior, but 100% reproducible and preferably in a way that allows the entity behaving normally vs. behaving in Darkplaces to act as a simple conditional (e.g. do thing if entity fucks up, else continue the map normally).

doodling anon I really hope your drawing skills aren't stagnated like this, I really want to see some serious work from you. Something that has significant.

>>4625578
i kinda feel like that when it comes to drawing

why doesnt korax have secret treasure

>>4625575
damn dude who the hell pissed in your cornflakes

>>4625593
you need to punch him harder

>>4625576
There should be easier ways to check with QuakeC, though I don't myself know how since I haven't modded Quake in a while.

>>4623998
I am one of few who like Episode 2 the best

what vision do you call this

wight vision!

>>4625236
never heard of this game before
is it a hidden gem?

>>4625615
knight vision.

>>4625604
I've only poked around in the QuakeC source on rare occasions to figure out how various map hacks work/can be modified (having not a whole lot of practical coding experience myself), plus I have no idea how much of DP's various changes are even handled by QC and not at the actual engine level. I did find the pic related list of explicit gameplay-modifying cvars, though; unfortunately they're all disabled by default in current releases of DP (unlike earlier builds where some were enabled by default, like being able to gib knocked-down zombies). One or more could potentially be forced on ahead of time and use whatever entity's behavior is changed as part of the hack, but that would require having the map load as a separate mod to make use of quake.rc, and while not explicitly a no-no that's a bit obvious/too much for a map that doesn't actually require its own game directory (map packs that use new folders for ease of categorization notwithstanding).

>>4625630
Oh, I forgot to combine the image layers. Whoops.

>>4625561
stop posting basically the same low-effort drawings every day if you dont want negative feedback

>>4625636
ain't even me, nig

>>4624720
Don't even bother asking about anything else than doom here. "retro fps thread" is a meme and people here have no idea about anything except doom

>>4624720
The Dream.

>>4625649
it was cool of you to actually suggest stuff instead of whining like a bitch

>>4625656
Check out the OP post.

>>4625376
>doesn't notice the highres textures

>>4625649
>implying there wasn't Duke discussion last thread

More GMOTA trailer work, boys. I've been doing my damnedest to make sure it flows with the music

https://my.mixtape.moe/eatwpq.webm

>>4625773
That looks pretty fucking rad.

>>4625773
Will you have a titlemap on game startup with the intro cinematic playing?

>>4625782
I thought about it. I'd like a different title screen in general, honestly.

>>4625649
I am guilty of not playing anything except Doom, however, you don't know what a meme is.

>>4625773
Youre doing a fine job. I have a stupid grin on my face.

>>4625798
That word has been assfucked 10000 ways, it's inevitable.

>>4624176
Pretty sure it was seven rockets.

>>4625773
Is there more to do?

>>4625813
Yeah. I still got another 30 seconds or so, have some kinda flashy title card, and then add the special second half of the trailer, which will also be a minute or so long.

What are some wads based around the theme of cybernetic hell?

>>4625826
map31 of Speed of Doom is a good one

>>4625816
what is the second half, more gameplay footage?

how many enemies in gmota have been replaced?

>>4625838
doomslayer reveal

>>4625839
All of them now except for romero's head and commander keens

>>4625841
Even the nazis? What about dehacked? Won't that break compatibility?

>>4625847
Even the nazis. If it breaks compat with certain maps I'll try to find a way to address that.

>>4625849
Could you make it an optional file?

>>4625872
The nazis? Possibly

>>4625561
just report him, he's a shitposter from another thread known for trying to drive out drawfags and characterfags he doesn't like.

Any doom WADs with either a Marvel or DC comics theme?

>>4625926
Batman Doom obviously
There is a ZDoom version too IIRC

>>4625649
>>4625636
>>4625538

yarn?

>>4625979
Long skirt and sweater
when

Hey, can Dosbox be configured to recognize Xbox 360 controllers and the Steam gamepad?

GUYS! TERM!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uj3swY1uPo
>/r/Doom/comments/81sqwn/metroid_dreadnought_map_pack_part_2/
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55047

>>4626093
>sees the zdoom thread

shit like this increases my hope that id will lock down ZdoomForums, and make Bethforums and Doomworld the main areas for it.

>>4626063
Yes, you can use the built in mapper to make them work. Ctrl+F1 in Dosbox I think.

>>4626093
>>4626095
>>>/v/

Have you ever tried to do a genuine playthrough with the Nightmare difficulty?

>>4626147
I played through Chex Quest on Nightmare.

>>4626107
>>4625649
>claiming that Dreadnought is /v/ material
>shitposting against Duke
janitor the faux "retro" shitposter is back

>>4625773
holy shit this looks great

>>4624720
Total Meltdown was released a few days ago, also there's duke 64 remake. which features all of the exclusive maps for Duke Nukem 64

>>4626162
Please get raped.

Haven't seen this channel mentioned here. Stumbled on it a while ago - it's playthrough and analysis of various Quake SP maps, kinda like what FDA guy does, but for Quake.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB827907AD18E9966

>>4626162
>Posting drama related to the mod from a year ago and a reddit link
>Actual discussion

https://youtu.be/-EFRxuVQoNo

>>4626182
>he didn't just oneshot the archvile with the ssg
this isn't the brutal doom i'm familiar with

>>4626162
why don't you complain about these "people" instead

>>4624237
>>4624285
>>4625009
>>4625538
>>4625575

>>4626192
because it the same group of furfag phoneposting shitposters from /v/ who keeps derailing most of /vr/ threads

also
>fuck Hiromoot for instating the Captcha v2 hell gain

>>4626147
I'm kinda sure Bottom left one is ruling the Seven Kingdoms from inside the Red Keep Castle now and is about to get rekt by an ice necromancer.

These are all the official versions of the original Doom soundtrack, right?

>PC (FM + sample-based)
>GBA
>SNES
>32x
>Jaguar
>3DO

>>4626195
i'd say use to learn the report function but because you keep calling for the janitor when your feelings get hurt as well as busting out epic buzzwords i doubt you even know what the word means

>>4626206
not him, but i used to use the report function frequently, but like him, i now find it far too bothersome with forced v2 captcha. i suggest if you want the report function to be used, you lobby the administrator to reduce the friction of making a report via the feedback form.

>>4626215
>he doesn't have noscript captcha turned on thru 4chan x

>>4626217
Google as a whole will be abandoning v1 captcha soon.

>>4626219
>he doesn't get it

the noscript one is basically the v2 but less retarded. chokes up sometimes but i've found it better than the regular one.

>>4626221

>>4626224
Oh fuck woops. I just re-enabled it and tested it out, fuck me that still works, it's making me click cars and shit but there's no waiting or repeat attempts.
and here I thought it was completely busted.

this is the one i'm talking about by the way

>>4626224
>simulated downvotes

wow, your fucking pussy actually is bleeding.

>>4626215
I don't have any problems with v2 captcha, even before it was mandatory.

>>4626225
shit, i thought you were doing an epic simulated downvote. sorry senpai

>>4626226
maybe you should slow down before jumping the gun, fool. >>4626225

>>4626231
You first, incest baby. >>4626230

>>4626228
you must be a very slow typist!

>>4626232
This is getting out of hand, and a complete misunderstanding on both our parts. I'm just gonna delete my stupid posts.
I'm just happy that other captcha option still works.

>>4626203
Roland is the official version for PC at most due to how it was recorded, also Facing the spider and nobody Told About id in SC is the fucking tits
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iIrg4DM078

>>4626217
Its broken, thank hiromoot for that, he managed to remove v1 and break the captcha

>>4626203
https://www.discogs.com/Bobby-Prince-Doom-Music/release/7024212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwKgjM3Hp8

There was this CD from 1997 that may have been the only release of the PC soundtrack on digital media.

>>4626246
sorry, only OFFICIAL release

What's the most satisfying machinegun you've used that someone has made with Decorate, ZScript, BEX or DeHacked?

>>4626246

Perfect, thanks. Trying to sync the various versions together to make one mega version of "At Hell's Gate".

so I decided to give ion maiden a try after a playthrough of death wish for blood and I'm really not feeling it. enemy encounters are underwhelming, guns feel like peashooters, level design is decent but it abuses autosaves and it's not like it really needs loading segments a-la Half-Life. it's not particularly hard or notorious with its difficulty and the enemies don't deal that much damage. they're more annoying than anything. normally I'd say 'it's only the first episode so that's forgivable, the remainder of the game's sure to blow me away' but most retro shooters were generally pretty good and memorable in their first leg, so I'm kind dumbfounded by ion maiden since what I've played so far wasn't that exceptional.

aesthetically though it's a beast. but I feel like it might have fared better as a TC for duke instead.

>>4626219
>google is planning on dropping support for v1 Captcha
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Onward to Change.org to petition against this!

TOWER2.WAD
tower2.zip (55 KB, 1994-05-23) - Chris Kendall
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=253

a garishly and messily textured, highly off-grid, but nonetheless entertaining single level, composed of a main large area split into indoor and outdoor parts, a large lift, a deep spiral staircase with more ammo than you'll ever need at the bottom, and a bunch of surrounding tunnels.

it helps greatly to know where the weapons and ammo are: go up to the silver UAC lift to your left from the start position. if you go out into the main area you'll probably go around the whole map with nothing but a thin supply of shells until you find the ammo cache frustratingly late.

the "baron tube", as it calls it, was a nice idea (except for being an inaccessible secret): very early on you may find a room full of the things guarding the red key, but the tube gives you a safe way to blow them all up. although a sufficiently skillful player can just dive in and kill them all having grabbed the BFG from under their noses.

there is essentially one more secret, but split into 15 sectors. and is not really a secret at all as you must take the red key in there to raise a staircase to be able to exit. this was unfortunate. i took a picture of one way to reach the red door, but both entrances are visible on the automap at least. max secrets 13/16.

but with these caveats i found it a fun map to play, with a mix of running battles in open areas and tunnel exploration, and recommend it if you like early nineties wads.

hoy nerds
I'm having the pictured issue when trying to lad Quake textures into trenchbroom.

"Could not load palette file 'gfx\palette.lmp': File not found: 'gfx\palette.lmp'"

I'm using the "Q.wad" texture wad that most everyone seems to use for q1 mapping.

Is Dance of Death considered finished?

More work in Main UAC Hangar if someone is still interested on it

>>4626327
with all those bright lights around somehow i feel the walls/floors wouldn't be so near to black. or is that just the material they are made of? what would your map look like on a sunny day?

>>4626327
Looks like Unreal.

>>4626263
I don't think it would've faired as well as a duke tc. I'm not far, but I think it feels pretty solid. The starting weapon does feel pretty weak though. Should probably have a faster reload and more kick

Is Deathkings of the Dark Citadel a good expansion pack?

>Blood 2 keeps crashing every fucking time I pick up a remote detonator ingame

There's NO fucking reason this should happen. I have all the recommended game fixes and it keeps doing this shit. It's just a FUCKING weapon how does that crash the game???

Also if I can fix this somehow, what do?

>>4626404
It's basically everything all over again with new levels. If you enjoyed Hexen, you'll probably like it.

I didn't, so I didn't like the expansion either.

>>4626328
holograms are bright, but have low actual luminescense, kinda like your LCD screen. It may look brighter than a lamp when you look at it, but its actual light emission is low and it barely lights up a room.

>>4626093
it's always neat to see people making maps dedicated to mods, even if they're unpopular or not that alive.

>>4626195
>because it the same group of furfag phoneposting shitposters from /v/ who keeps derailing most of /vr/ threads
you have a knack for assuming a lot of things about most folks here.

>>4626489
I read that as the people making the maps being not that popular or alive.

>>4626501
don't enable him.

>>4626501
that looks rad as fuck

>>4625773
I'm tired of waiting, Kegan

anybody hosting vanilla servers on zandronum?

>>4626263
it's style over substance. decent graphics is the only thing it's got going on for it. I'm on like map 5 or 6, the one with the elevator. it's pretty forgettable so far, enemies are boring and encounters are pretty poor. bowling bomb is cool but feels a tad overkill.

it's the duke3d equivalent of blade of agony except without the goofy storytelling.

How come Korax wasn't riding a Serpent?

>>4626615
heresiarch was going to be korax, and what ended up being korax was going to be his mount
i dunno why they changed it, but that's how it is

>>4626621
I think they were planning a trilogy and didn't know what they were going to do for the final serpent rider, so they made korax number 2. This is why Eidolon is a big red guy

>>4626312
pls respond

>>4626627
cause of the red guy at the end of Heretic?

>>4626627
a hot big red guy.

Universal gibs looks nice and all, but I disagree with the statement that its "less resource intensive" than ketchup, because if anything it's causing more slowdown for me.

>>4626640
uuuu

>>4626640
I see you are a man of culture.

god this mod is so bad
the revenant's head hitbox doesn't exist until he starts moving, by the way

>>4626525
There was a guy on here yesterday hosting a deathmatch server with a map he made. Didn't get a chance to play unfortunately.

>>4626409
Bumping this for help.

>>4626652

>>4626652
I knew that it was terrible, but this just makes it look even worse.

>>4626652
that's fair, most people would die if you shot them even once in the head.

>>4626673
revenants aren't people.

>>4626652
two pistol shots to kill a revenant? must be the scout from Drla ;-)

>>4626673
even a cyberdemon from six shells on the dome

>>4626676
racist :P

uh, goodbye

>>4626680
fun fact, the normal SSG is the *only* weapon that can do it, because for some reason sgtmarkiv decided that the SSG needed to do 10 times more damage than normal on headshots if within 224 units
then, thanks to the power of jank code, it's actually 20 times more damage
but it's okay, because the head hitbox just might not be there depending on what the enemy's doing!

this mod is so bad.

>>4626687
It's like Mark is trying to see how long can people eat this up

>>4626687
At this point, you might as well jump onto Project Brutality.

>>4626680
if you run over a cyberdemon in a tank it dies in like half a second. i hope he puts a ramp into plutonia 29 along with the tank, so i can rev it up down main street, do a massive jump, and hit the cyber while screaming "USA #1"

>>4626678
but now it's enhanced since you can do it with the basic starting pistol!

>>4626687
>uh, goodbye
reminds me of when lost souls fly off to god knows where in vanilla. or worse you stun them and they float off at snail pace until they hit a wall 20 minutes later

I wonder why you are forced to use an older version of GZDoom for DRLA.

>>4626703
i believe a multitude of under the hood changes made for zscript broke a lot of stuff in drla

>>4626703
info menus are borked

>>4626687
>I have to go home to my planet!

oh yeah, and if you're using a 4:3 resolution you get the nice sight of text running over the edge of the screen the moment you start the game
pinnacle of mod design, guys

(and yeah, the hi-res fonts and textures are mandatory, for some reason)

>metadoom's trites have their ceiling ability based off a strife enemy and their sounds from a spider enemy from blood
interesting

>>4626687
>for some reason sgtmarkiv decided that the SSG needed to do 10 times more damage than normal on headshots if within 224 units
then, thanks to the power of jank code, it's actually 20 times more damage
So it's not bad because he has terrible judgement, but because he's an inept dumbass?

>>4626718
> gets hit by 3 more bullets and fucking explodes

>>4626725
>Cacodemon died on his way home

To be fair, there's lots of mods with silly bugs. Especially the more complex mods. Software is like that, unfortunately.

Orb's with floor and ceiling hugger effects are so neato

>>4626093
good to see someone still working on stuff for it outside of that rocket racoon retard

for contrast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9zyKV0F95k

>>4626742
i thought the case was that brutal doom's case was a lot worse, yet overlooked for a mod that had more praise and coverage over most mods
mark is like the david cage of doom mods

>>4626724
nope, it's both of them. here's a breakdown of what happens:

the SSG fires a single pellet dead center with a range of 224 units, which normally does 15, 30, or 45 damage. however, head actors take 15 times more damage from this singular pellet, so we're actually getting 225, 450, or 675 damage. exactly one tic later, the other 20 pellets get shot out. all of these do 11 damage, and head actors take 1.5 times more damage from these, for 16 damage each. on its own, this is 320 extra damage. so a full hit on the head would do a minimum of 595 damage - already pretty high. except it gets worse.

you see, whenever the headshot actor takes damage, it waits a tic, checks how much health it's lost, and then doles out roughly that much damage to its "owner". it never resets its own health. and you might notice that it took damage on two simultaneous tics. naturally, this means the 595 headshot damage gets doled out twice.

except it's not 595 damage getting doled out, it's 1200. because if the head actor's lost at least 500 health, it doles out 1200 damage. and it's doing this twice.

so through a combination of bad decisions, obvious oversights, and just fucking bad code in general, we've turned 250 damage into 2400 damage. fucking amazing.

>>4626750
For all of Mark's flaws, he's not a creepy and pretentious fuck who constantly tries to signal to the world how good he is at writing and how shit everyone else is in comparison.

>>4626753

>>4626748
Looking good! Arm cannon is too high though.
How's that weapon bob style being done? Did GZDoom always tilt 3D weapons like that?

new card

>>4626764
...Is that a uterus?

>>4626763
you are far more accepting than i am, anon

>>4626769
the pinker

ATRIUM.WAD
atrium.zip (15 KB, 1994-05-12) - Steve Taylor
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=97

another extremely early wad, and a simple one. you first must traverse the one safe path through a room of nukage and trees. or just grab the provided radiation suit. then, a nasty barrel trap, which cannot be avoided. this may spoil the map for some players, even those who like the early nineties style.

assuming you passed it, beyond there is some sort of tech centre, across which lies the exit. clear this once to find a blue key, then loop around to reveal a switch in a console. this reveals the red key but turns all the lights off and four cacodemons come out of the walls.

there is a soulsphere on the exit which seems superfluous unless the author was intending to make a follow-on. also one secret - it turns out a certain item had more purpose than a crutch for those with poor movement skills.

a quite good level, not great, and shame about that barrel trap.

>>4625149
How tf did you do those bushes?

>>4623998

Agreed with >>4625605

I really thought the theme, atmosphere, and level design was some of the best.

>>4626770
I thought it was rraccoon pretending to be someone else, due to the video only being posted yesterday

>>4626776
heh, it looks like a lobster

>>4626776
Your art's deteriorating, man. At least I can tell this one's supposed to be a pinky

>>4626810
would you have been, without the filename?

>>4626764

>>4626816
lol

GM crops: not even once

>>4626816
this should be an enemy
somebody needs to make sprites of this if they can of course, i know enemy spriting is hard

>>4626813
I thought Arborix's Demon was a miniature baron for a while, so yes.

>>4537109
>Project ILE has potential but I feel like it's still young right now.
I think it's literally the first mod that was ever created on /vr/, before anything else that could be considered a mod was released/made here, so it's almost 5 years old.

>>4626824
every character in that blog is a precious fucking cinnamon roll

2pure

>>4626828
>/vr/ is almost 5 years old
i didn't need this

>>4626828
Why are you responding to something from back in January?

>>4626837
I'm reading through what I missed in between sets
also writing stuff about gay butts in a poll someone posted but the dumb chat won't let me say gay it just wordfilters G.,.,.,.,.,.,A,.,.,,,.,___Y to S.,.,.,.,.,.,WE,.,.,,,.,___ET

You know whats funny, people go to sleep, they think everythings fine, everythings good, and they wake up the next day and their on fire

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

>>4626843
what?

>>4626843
you could be on fire right now and not realize it

>>4623970
What year was Skulltag abandonded? Also, Would games such as Laser Arena and Half-life 1 work on Quake2XP and/or Yamagi? Q2 engine was a tad more popular than Quake 1's.

Doesn't seem like anyone's brought it up yet so here's something that may interest

https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/the-2001-unreal-engine-version-of-duke-nukem-forever-was-90-complete-had-rpg-and-horror-elements/

>>4626840
wait minigunner had a crush on kate
also the chat wouldnt let me post gay even though I was doing it ironically, what a fucking fascist

>>4626652
I'm more bothered by the fact that a skeleton is somehow able to fucking bleed.

>>4626869
smooth doom does it too

>>4626869
thought you were referring to something related to the source port itself, but i can see it now

>>4626869
revenants bled in vanilla doom 2 too.

>>4626869
That always bothered me about gore mods. Gibbing a Rev with Ketchup looks very silly.

>>4626327(me)
Okay last picture of today's progress and i'm done with mapping for now.

>>4626327
>>4626880
are you the foot guy or the other guy that maps like this, acheron something that made the coldplay map that won a cacoward?

>>4626816
lel

>>4626869
according to doom 3 they have a layer of transparent flesh over their bones

>>4626865
>>4626840
what the fuck are you talking about

>>4626880
>>4626327
Looking pretty.

>>4626895
I'm at the gym reading old threads I missed because I was busy
I'm also trying but failing to post about gay butts on a strawpoll

>>4626861
doomwiki says:
>On June 7, 2012, Carnevil announced the ceasing of development on the port after the development team forked Zandronum from it on June 3, 2012, effectively abandoning the original project.

>>4626898
you do realise you can't just hang around a gym and get fit by osmosis, right?

>>4626864
Another reason for Pitchford to gtfo of gaming

>>4626902
I do it inbetween sets, im at 90% for a couple today so its like 3 min rests
I know I'm not the only /fit/izen /vr/gin, not even the only /doom/, I've seen people on /fit/ that post only the we know, you can't fool me

>>4626889
The former and i don't think i have seen the other dude you are mentioning or either his wad, gimme linkz pls.

>>4626902
Now I'm just picturing a guy who goes to the gym so he can lazily sit on the equipment reading 4chan threads on his phone.

>>4626907
>I've seen people on /fit/ that post only the we know
>post only the we know
the fatigue is setting in apparently

>>4625986
needs a normal tie so he can be D-OUK

>>4626894
that sounds retarded as fuck

>>4626909
I meant coldplay as cold as hell which won a cacoward but that's not correct I really meant winter's fury whose author is pyroscourge and I think forever ago I thought you were the same person
I don't know where I got the name acheron except google tells me there is a crossing acheron mentioned in 10years
>>4626912
this is unironically how people do, except with not 4chan
my gym owner sits in his office and shitposts on normie sites quite frequently
>>4626914
deadlifts are a hell of a drug

>>4624741

I usually go with scythe2, moonblood, or alien vendetta for them lately. I need more good mapsets in general tho.

>>4626937
>I meant coldplay as cold as hell which won a cacoward

I need to fucking sleep, I thought you meant the band.

>>4626937
I've seen Xaser go by Xaser Acheron on occasion; that's probably who you were thinking of.

>>4626937
>>4626943
Oh... wow, confusing me with Xaser and Pyroscourge, three guys with completely different mapping styles, that's very weird.

>You will never tease Zaneion about his foot fetish
why even play doo-
wait.... nevermind.

>>4626869
Red blood cells come from bones, though.

>>4626869
they atleast have something red stuck to them

lost souls have no excuse tho

>>4626312
You don't have a game directory chosen somehow. gfx\palette.lmp is a file in the base game's paks, not part of the texture wad itself. What does your version of this screen look like when you click new map?

>>4626948
What if i told you that's my secondary fetish, my first will always ever be futurism, it's actually an obssession that sometimes i gets depressed if thinking too much.

>>4626954
since we're being honest, my fetish is consensual missionary for procreation

>>4626947
I don't think I was thinking of xaser, I know who he is.
looking at pyroscourge's stuff it looks similar to yours, but this is only from screens, I've never played any of either of yours maps
>>4626942
I just know it was a cold map that had a lot of blue, like those blue daba guys coldplay

>>4626961
MODS

>>4626963
hey anon
guess what
handholding

>>4626967
>>4626961

>>4626962
Actually to recognize when a map is made by Pyroscourge, just look at the ceiling of the rooms, if they are extremely overdetailed at Tormentor levels, then it is a Pyroscourge map.

Ancient Aliens is overrated.

>>4626978
Skillsaw is overrated

>>4624176
10/10 absolutely no challenge -- the definitive way to play anything

>>4626980
Your Mom is overrated. B)

>>4626847
>dat costume
MUH!

>>4625531
Fucking stop.

>>4626961
Fuck off with this SHIT STALE MEME, ITS NOT FUNNY! DITTO FOR DARUDE SANDSTORM!

>>4626719
You're getting obsessed

>>4626998
it made me laugh at your reaction, so it's funny

>>4626983
>IGN

>>4626936
It was a stylistic choice; some applied it accidentally, and they thought "Hey, this looks kinda cool!"

It's not one I agree with, but that was the reasoning.

>>4626997
that post is several hours old, guy.

What should I expect?

I beat Shadow Warrior 2, and I think the ending of the game leaves an excellent opening for the next game opening with Lo Wang waking up and the entire previous game had been a dream.

I'd call it "Shadow Warrior 2: For Real This Time"

>>4627005
>had mod that made them true skellies
>filefront is dead and its nowhere else on the internet

Another reason for that was Doom 3's hitboxes were per-polygon, which made fighting revenants more difficult than they thought it should be. Though that's also why they shambled about rather than ran. Kind of a mess.

>>4626520
I am too. I want to get this update out as badly as others want to play it. But this is a big one and I want to make damn certain everything is just right.

>>4627002
or rather it gets worse by the minute.

Any idea of what might be happening here?

>>4627042
I think you may be doing a map

Is just a theory though

>>4627042
just a gzdb rendering error

>>4627050
democalypse now

>>4627059
>just a gzdb rendering error
Yeah, but it only shows in the editor so I guess I'm good.

>>4627065
thats what he means by gzdb rendering error. gzdb is the editor

>>4627050
STOP FUCKING DRAWING, KILL YOURSELF.

doodle anon is the Kodyboy555 of the doom community.

>>4627075
thanks for your contribution, you may leave at any time

>>4627075
Let's see your drawings then, faggot.

>>4627079
Who is Kodyboy555?

>>4623970
Someone please make a Doom wad based on/around the Niven Ringworld :'(

>>4627075
Who are you and what do you have against us?

Who's stupid idea was it to litter Voodoo dolls in plain sight in the first Community Chest wad?

>>4627114
The Ultimate Doomer
His maps were always a bit weird.

>>4627079
>Kodyboy555
This is Marvin, my new Baron character. He is a scuba diver. He lives in the Dis part of Hell.

>>4627114
I remember people doing that back in 90's wads to fake other people/marines in maps. If they got shot or whatever you just weren't defending them well enough.

>>4627123
Not bad
You're getting better

>>4627114
What gameplay mod

>>4627123
Now do forevererally delitized and loving it

>>4627145
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56220

>>4627152
I swear someone already did one of those of Doomguy or maybe Ranger.

I just encountered a russian that doesn't know what Quake is

I thought it was a requirement for slav citizenship to know at least 30 old school shooter IPs

Like how is required by the japanese goverment to have a twitter

will the new Duke Nukem 3D world tour work with EDuke?

>>4627123
>not he lives in Dis part of hell
come on

>>4626978
Gimme some underrated mapsets. Ones that don't have a cacoward, but are still good nevertheless.

>>4627194
Epic2.