/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4624586
Nobody had stereo TVs back in '83 so it would be a worthless addition.

>>4624586
TVs in the 80s.

>>4624586
Good luck transmitting stereo audio and video with a 1980s RF cable.

RF signal doesn't have stereo

>>4624586
>It's another "Anon applies modern standards to the past" episode.

Because stereo mixing a 5-instrument sound chip is mostly pointless.

>>4624651
Not the same sound hardware, but Game Boy and PC Engine definitely benefited from stereo.

>>4624593
>>4624606
Maybe not in whatever backwater you hail from

>>4624593
>>4624606
Can anyone explain that? Stereo broadcast TV was a thing in the 80s. Why was stereo just fine going 30 miles through the air but not 9 feet through a cable? It was too late for the Famicom/NES but what was stopping the SNES or Genesis from outputting stereo over RF?

Do you even know anything about the typical 80s consumer TV?

>>4624586
You're a fucking idiot, OP. You're a real fucking cocking piece of shit. You're one hell of a cuck boy, dude. Fucking suck my cock, you stupid fuck. What a retarded fucking question.

>>4624586
It was a kids toy from 1983.

>>4624739
Broadcast is different from video

>>4624613
Ey yo! Why didn't the greeks just send a text after Marathon instead of sending some po nigga running?

>>4624613
A lot of these threads are usually kids that never actually grew up in that era so it's no wonder they don't see things within the proper context.

>>4624791
He thinks people in 1985 had 32" Trinitons with component inputs. Try this instead.

It’s like asking why it didn’t support HD resolutions.

>>4624797
This. In 1983, a color stereo TV would run you about $650. That's nearly $1,500 in today's money. You kept using the same old TV until it was no longer repairable.

>>4624586
So you could hear all the sound when you hooked them up to your mono TV

>>4624797

yeah we had one of these. I kinda miss that big, heavy bastard

>>4624797
I remember when I first got a playstation I had to plug the damn thing through the vcr because our television was still the old stuff like that. Now people complain if a tv doesn't have at least 4 hdmi ports, even my nephews complain they can't plug all their systems and laptops in at the same time.

>>4624797
I knew poor kids who played in B&W TVs in the early 90s.

I had my NES hooked up to a B&W TV as late as 91 or 92. Granted it was the spare TV in my room, not the good one in the living room, but still.

>>4624586
A thread died for this. Next you'll be asking why movies from the 30s were black and white

>>4624954
>Now people complain if a tv doesn't have at least 4 hdmi ports, even my nephews complain they can't plug all their systems and laptops in at the same time.
Even then you can just grab a $10 HDMI switchbox (complete with power brick) and problem solved. Kids these days, I swear.

>>4624593
you're an idiot. do you have any idea about technology or is it easier to make shit up as you go?

> RF
> not supporting stereo
AHAHAHAH. what a fucking idiot.

>>4624606
yes, it does, you dangerously low IQ'd knuckle dragging moron. is the internet broken at your end? LOOK IT UP.

>>4624586
>Why were they mono?
because the output of the NES's audio is MONO. what a surprise eh?
> welcome to /vr/
> where nobody can be bothered to look stuff up on google before shitposting here

Better question, why did they have the controllers come out of the back?

>>4626772
Because they were also stored in slots near the back, so you could hide the folded-up cords back there.

>>4625929
Same! I knew a poor kid who played SFII on the SNES in B&W! When him and his brother played Ken vs. Ken using the code, it was impossible for me to tell who was who!

>>4624586
Who cares about mono? This will always be the coolest Famicom, because it has a microphone in controller 2!

>>4627563
You get mono from kissing. No on here needs to worry about it.

Because mono > stereo. Mono always sounds the same. Stereo changes depending on where you are in a room.

>>4624797
Damn, my Grandma had a TV like this. Always thought it looked neat.

She still has a smaller one that turns on and controls the volume with a nob, and only has a select number of dedicated channel buttons. That's the one that the Super NES is hooked up to. I want to take that thing someday, it's wasted on the gen z brats that come over for the holidays.

>>4624797

Buttons instead of knobs? Damn look at Mr. Moneybags here!

>>4628749
Mine had buttons but they were, I guess actually switches? They went KA-CHUNK when you pressed them

>>4626772
And the cords were only a foot long.
Slants are weird

Ask a guy who just bought one of these on eBay anything.

>>4629196
It was one of the first of its kind. They did the best they could with what they knew in 1983.

>>4629220
...you can't be serious
>>4629216
Why?

>>4628447
>not having a knob for the channels
>not having vice grips permanently on the stem and never knowing when or how the knob broke

>>4629226
How is my statement not true? Atari didn't even launch a console in Japan until '83. The SG-1000 came out in '83. The MSX came out in '83.

>>4629226
>Why
So I can play the Japanese versions of Mario Bros. 2 and Zelda II in crispy HD.

>>4629241
>HD
I don't think you bought one of pic related.

>>4629239
Was the Famicom created by Japanese peasants that had never left their island and had no idea about Atari or Coleco or anything electronics related?
Nintendo licensed Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. out to the developers for Atari, Intellivision, Colecovision, and others with ZERO FUCKING CONTEXT as to what they would be played on?!

The magical Nintendo peasants created, from whole cloth, what they thought was the first video game system in a vacuum?

Did they forget about the Color TV-Game they had already invented? Those bombs we dropped must have really did a number on their memory....

Shut up.

>>4629241
>the Japanese versions of Mario Bros. 2
Uh...
>in crispy HD
UH.....?

>>4629267
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_syndrome

>>4629284
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_syndrome
Oh neat, wikipedia, huh?
Well, also from wikipedia:
>During the creation of the Famicom, the ColecoVision, a video game console made by Coleco to compete against Atari's Atari 2600 Game system in The United States, was a huge influence. Takao Sawano, chief manager of the project, brought a ColecoVision home to his family, who were impressed by the systems capability to produce smooth graphics at the time, which contrasted with the flickering and slowdown commonly seen on Atari 2600 games. Uemura, head of Famicom development, stated that the ColecoVision set the bar that influenced how he would approach the creation of the Famicom.[18]
OOPS!

>>4629267
>Was the Famicom created by Japanese peasants that had never left their island and had no idea about Atari or Coleco or anything electronics related?
Nobody claimed this.
>Did they forget about the Color TV-Game they had already invented?
What does that have to do with controller cord length?
>Nintendo licensed Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. out to the developers for Atari, Intellivision, Colecovision and others with ZERO FUCKING CONTEXT as to what they would be played on?!
Nobody claimed this. Numerous sources claim Nintendo took inspiration from the Colecovision for the Famicom.
>what they thought was the first video game system in a vacuum
Nobody claimed this.

There's no reason Nintendo should have made the Famicom exactly like any other system they were aware of. The claim in question here is whether the Famicom was an early console (it was) released in a time with not much precedent relative to today (also true) and whether decisions made about it would have been made without the hindsight we have now (true).

The fact that Nintendo took their home market into consideration when making decisions about the Famicom is not an error or a mistake. They made a system that made sense for the time and place.

>>4629313
Hence the "slants are weird" remark.
It was a stupid decision that they carried over to the SFC when the rest of the world knew better.

>>4629324
>Hence the "slants are weird" remark.
This doesn't make any sense at all.
>It was a stupid decision that they carried over to the SFC when the rest of the world knew better.
What are you talking about?

>>4629329
What are YOU talking about?
The fucking short cord length. What confused you? Where did you get lost?

>>4629336
Japanese living rooms are small. PC Engine and JP Megadrive controller cords were short, too.
Invest in extension cords if you're still that asspained about it.

Pic related

>>4629351
Why would I be asspained about my cords, that are NOT too short?
Jesus get a grip

>>4629429
Then why are you talking? Why do you care?

>>4629439
Why do YOU care? I made an offhand comment about short cords and you felt personally attacked.

>>4629443
>Slants are weird

>>4629470
I know, right?

>>4629514
Casual racism directed at the people whose work we talk about here 24/7 is cool and edgy I guess
Or not, but you do you

>>4624797
That takes me back to watching Nickelodeon at my grandmother's house.

>>4624797
I wish tvs would become furniture again

>>4629539
Here, I think this website might be more your speed: www.reddit.fuckoff

>>4624586
Because TVs in the 80 were shit and mono. Most people still had their sets from the 70s even. So stereo would be pointless.

>>4624586
1983
RF

>>4629870
This isn't your safe space.

>>4630050
Seems like you're the one needing a safe space you cry baby snowflake. Fucking slants, man.