/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4614338
>Games I owned
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Star Wars Racer
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Zelda OOT
Zelda MM
Superman 64
Pokemon Stadium

>Favorite Game
Perfect Dark

>Game I wished I owned then
Mario Kart 64

>Overrated
Dk64 that game was trash

>Underrated
N64 version of RE2, the alternate control scheme alone makes it better than all the other versions

>Latest Purchase
Pokemon stadium 2 (about 10 years ago)

>>4614338
>Favorite Game
Diddy Kong Racing

>Multiplayer Choice
So many great games... Tie between Smash and Goldeneye

>Overrated
Majora's Mask. That game has always been shit.

>Underrated
NFL Blitz. Best sports game on the N64 IMO.

>Latest Purchase
Banjo Tooie (Still haven't gotten around to being Banjo Kazooie)

This game is incredibly underrated as N64 shooters go. Everybody praises the usual suspects like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok and Doom 64 on occasion, but Quake really flies under the radar. It isn't an original game like Doom 64 and it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles of something like Perfect Dark, but man is it fun. It also runs butter smooth (60fps at many times), you can turn off the anti-aliasing, you can completely customize the controls and the graphics are very sharp and colorful. I legitimately enjoy this more than the PC version, despite its limitations. I don't know why, just something about the ambient sound track, the moody color palette... it's just a great game that more people should play.

>>4614338
Good console for the time.
Not as many games as the Sega Saturn(including both western and eastern titles).

>>4614338
Underated: pilotwings64
Overated: golden eye (it's good though)

Latest purchase was blast corp and diddy kong racing

I also have smash and poke stadium but they have my name on them

>>4614421
Agree. I think maybe it's the fact that they cut out the most boring parts and the background sound was better. They already had a ton of experience playing it on PC so they knew which bits/levels to cut out and what to do better. I remember the fact that it was a year old by the time it hit N64 given as some big negative point by one review. Like who the fuck cares as long as it's good.

>>4614338
>favorite
Zelda: OoT

>favorite multiplayer
Goldeneye

>underrated
Wave Race 64, I spent so many hours screwing around in practice mode, riding the dolphin, practicing crazy tricks, it was extremely soothing
https://youtu.be/rRKVZ18A9UQ

>>4614480
> I remember the fact that it was a year old by the time it hit N64 given as some big negative point by one review. Like who the fuck cares as long as it's good.
Completely agree my dude.

I think you're right, they kept the really good levels and ditched the trash, and ambient sound track was less intrusive and more atmospheric than Reznor's OST. The atmosphere as a whole is just vastly superior, it's one of the best examples of how color can be used to create a melancholy mood better than simple browns and greys.

It's funny, because Perfect Dark is one of my favorite games and offers so much more content, but I always find myself playing this game most of the time. Beating it on nightmare with no cheats was one of the most engrossing, rewarding gaming experiences I've ever had. Having played the shit out of it, nowadays I try to breath a little life into it by attempting to beat it on nightmare, in one sitting, without ever dying, but so far haven't managed to get past level 5 or so. Shit is pretty brutal.

>>4614447
>Not as many games as the Sega Saturn(including both western and eastern titles).
It has a slightly larger library in terms of sheer quantity, but when it comes to good games, the N64 blows the Saturn out of the fucking water. The Saturn's must-have library is laughable, literally 10 games at most.

>>4614458
Zelda isnt gold, opinion discarded.

Favorite: F-Zero X, Ogre Battle 64

Multiplayer: Pokemon Stadium 2/Mario Tennis

Overrated: Banjo

Underrated: Densha de Go!

My last purchase was SRW 64

Never got to play it because I was scared of breaking something when modding my N64

Now got an Everdrive and am playing it. Wish I knew japanese though

Favorite game
>F-zero x

Multiplayer choice
>smash bros

Most Overrated
>mario kart - its slow and not that fun

Underrated game
pokemon puzzle league - incredible fun twist on puzzle de pon

Latest purchase related to the system
haven't brought anything for years since i had a flash cart

also back in the day i considered goldeneyes frame rate to be very slow especially in multiplayer

>>4614410
Holy shit, someone who agrees with me on mm

>Favorite
Sin & Punishment

>Multiplayer
Mario Party 2

>Overrated
Road Rash 64. It's sadly the worst road rash game I've ever played.

>Underrated
Quest 64

>Latest purchase
I've actually never owned or purchased anything for a N64

>>4614606
Agree with you on Quest 64 being underrated, but I think Mario Party 3 is vastly superior to Mario Party 2

>>4614338
FAV Game?
>Rush 2: Extreme Racing USA

Multiplayer?
>Super Smash Bros

Overrated
>Throw in a RARE game for this system

Underrated
>Top Gear Overdrive

Latest purchase?
>None. Don't have one, anymore.

>>4614670
Talk about shit taste.

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Mario 64

>Multiplayer choice?
Smash Bros.

>Most Overrated/Underrated game?
Overrated: Conker's Bad Fur Day
Underrated: Top Gear Rally 2

>Latest purchase related to the system?
Quake 64, this thread pushed me over the edge and I just bought it tonight

>>4614338
Favourite? There's many games I love for the system but as cliche as it sounds Super Mario 64 is my favourite of all time.

Multiplayer: Fucking smash 64 still takes the try hard out of me and my friends. Also fifa 98 is a fucking bless with the glitches and wonky animations.

Underrated: Rakuga Kids / Japanese Bomberman / Chamaleon Twist 2 and Tarzan 64.

Overrated: I love majoras mask but people saying it was better than ocarina have no idea of anything. It's cool and very grim, but the 3 day limit just kills the exploration and the joy of finishing a good temple at your pace.

Lastest purchase was Ed64 plus. I love the flashcart but it kinda killed my will of collecting games as i did before.

>>4614693
>Quake 64, this thread pushed me over the edge and I just bought it tonight
You made a good decision my friend. It's a fantastic game. Some of the tightest gameplay and best atmosphere on the console. Pairs well with vodka and Alice in Chains, by the way.

>>4614518
but but but MUH JESTER FLYING HOOPS GAME

MY SNK RAM CART PORTS

Kirby 64

Best Kirby Game

>>4614347
all those good games and superman 64. should get shadows of the empire

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Mario 64
Majora's Mask
Ridge Racer 64
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 (nice curiosity)
Banjo Kazooie
Resident Evil 2
Mortal Kombat 4
>Multiplayer choice?
too many choices. Conker was surprisingly good. But probably Mario Kart 64
>Most Overrated
Banjo Tooie is worse than DK64. I'd rather have a tedious and simple game than a tedious and convoluted game

Star Soldier Vanishing Earth is a mediocre game, and an appalling sequel to the incredible Soldier Blade
>Underrated game?
Turok 3. Map design isn't as convoluted and it's like an N64 Half Life. Moreso overlooked

Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness is also overlooked. It's a director's cut of Castlevania 64 with better camera and new stages/characters

>Latest purchase related to the system?
Wayne Gretzky 3D Hockey. The multiplayer is fun and it has both co-op and versus

I hope to own Bangai-Oh someday. I own the other Treasure games which are both great

>>4614458
btw powerpuff girls and rugrats are prolly the worst game on the system. I was over a friends house and we played power puff girls I just kept hitting A and beat everyone without even looking. He gave it to me after that because it was so ass

I think that both Turok games are legitimately some of the best FPS games of their time. Problem is that they don't play that well on the N64. 2 especially is so much better on PC it isn't really worth playing on the N64, though 1 at least has a playable, though low, framerate.

Underrated: Hexen 64. My favorite retro port of my favorite FPS game.

Overrated: Any 3d platformer. They all suck.

>>4614808
>Overrated: Any 3d platformer. They all suck.
You exhibited good taste in mentioning Hexen, and then you threw it all away with this statement. Banjo-Kazooie sucks? No way fag.

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Perfect Dark

>Multiplayer choice?
Perfect dark. I still play this gave every week with friends or girlfriend.

> Most Overrated
ogrebattle 64. The game is so slow and boring to play. I've tried many times to enjoy this game but i just can't.

>Underrated game?
So many, but I'll say aydin chronicles. The game was so ahead of its time but it came out too late in the n64 life cycle. It could have been nintendo's elder scroll game.

>>4614606

Dude, road rash 64 is my favorite road rash game and I've played most of them. It has the best multiplayer of them all.

>>4614338
>Favourite game
Banjo Tooie

>Multiplayer choice
Super Smash Brothers

>Most overrated
Donkey Kong 64

>Most underrated
Star Wars Podracer64

>Latest purchase related to the system
Cruis'n USA (pic related)

>Games I own
Star Wars podracer
Star Wars shadows of the empire
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie
Cruis'n USA
Hot wheels turbo racing
F Zero X
Super smash brothers
Diddy Kong racing
Donkey Kong 64
Pokemon snap
Pokemon stadium 1
Scooby doo classic creep capers
Super mario 64
Ridge Racer 64
Mickey's Speedway USA

>>4614769
Superman 64 was the worst game known to mankind

>>4614973
I find it interesting that it got such an enduring reputation though. I mean, yes, it is terrible. I can't think of a worse game off the top of my head. I actually played it back in 2000, though, and I quickly forgot about it because, well, it was awful. I mean, its so bad you don't even want to play it for more than 5 minutes. So it can't even leave much of an impression.

>>4614808
>both Turok games

You forgetting 3 and rage wars?

Fuck the Nintendo 64.

>>4614338
Fav game: Mario Kart 64
Overrated: OoT (still good tho)
Underrated: that VW beetle racing game
Latest purchase: dont have a n64 atm :(

>>4615027
>his best argument against the N64 is a collection of old Genesis games
Wow, I mean, yeah man, that's it, the Saturn won. Nobody gave a fuck about industry-changing 3D games like Ocarina of Time, the Saturn had four geriatric sidescrollers on one disc. How did Nintengay even compete?

>>4615032
Ocarina of Time changed the industry for the worst by making everybody into storyfags despite story in games being cancer. Fuck off.

>>4615043
You're right, OoT was trash, we need more generic 3D fighters and games where you can play as a homosexual, purple, nose-less jester that flies through space. That's what gaming is really about.

>>4615052
NID sucked though, and Virtua Fighter was the first 3D fighter so you can't call it generic you idiot.
Nintendo fans hang yourselves.

>>4615059
So swords aren't a generic weapon just because somebody had to create the first sword? Keep sucking Sonic's cock you furry faggot.

>>4615083
What other 3D fighters were out when Virtua Fighter launched? Namco and other companies tried to copy it only for failure to follow.

>>4615095
Nigger are you retarded? Did you read what I just said? I repeat, just because something was unique when it was new doesn't mean it isn't generic now. I don't give a single fuck if the game wasn't generic in the mid 90s, I care about if it's worth playing in 2018 and it isn't.

>>4615097
I'm not black so shut the fuck up. Virtua Fighter is still the only good 3D fighter on the market and there aren't many of them other than Namco's normalfag messes or DOA which is fanservice and nothing more. Fuck off.

>>4615027
>not having owned both the N64 and Saturn back in the day
So you were a poorfag, Knuckles?

>>4614989

Nobody likes rage wars, but it was a big favorite of mine as a kid. It wasn't even bad to play against a bunch of AI bots.

>>4614338
I'm trying to find the Twelve Tales Conker 64 ROM that was supposedly dumped a few years back but it's like it vanished off the face of the earth just like Assembler Games.

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
majora's mask
Multiplayer choice?
mario kart, goldeneye, perfect dark, supersmashbros and pokemon puzzle league

Most Overrated/Underrated game?
overrated ocarina
underrated majora

>Fav
Conker's BFD or Diddy Kong Racing
>Multi
Conker, DK64, Mario Kart 64, Smash or Goldeneye 007
>Overrated
I would say OoT, but that game has been shitted on a lot in the later years, so dunno, Banjo-Tooie i guess even i don't think is a bad game.
>Underrated
I would say Mischief Makers, but that's like the most popular choice for a "underrated game", so I'll pick Top Gear Rally and Mickey's Speedway USA
>Latest Purchase
Forsaken 64, pretty good but hard as shit.

>>4614338
>Favorite
Paper Mario. It may be babbys first JRPG but its the best babbys first JRPG

>Overrated
Banjo. Its a so-so game elevated by incredible art sound and writing.

>Underrated
Shadowman. One of the few instances where technical limitations limiting a port arguably add to the game's atmosphere.

>Multiplayer
Smash Bros, hands down

>Latest purchase
Glover

>>4614338
>Favorite game?

Doom 64 followed by Quake II and Sin & Punishment and the Cruis'n trilogy

>Multiplayer choice?

Quake II

>>4614338
>Favorite game?

Doom 64 followed by Quake II and Sin & Punishment and the Cruis'n trilogy and all the AKI wrestling games

>Multiplayer choice?

Quake II or WWF No Mercy depending on who I'm playing the games with

>>4614338
>Ogre Battle 64 for SP
>NBA Hangtime or Mario Kart MP

My last system purchase was one of the generic Everdrives. It works MOST titles without issue. I haven't figured out how to get Perfect Dark or DK64 working, but I suspect either a patch is needed or it is just impossible with the generic POS. However It gives no issues with most titles. Conkers seems to be missing some of the audio dialog, but the gameplay is spot on.

I can't reccommend an ED64 to anyone unless you understand that it is generic as it gets. It works great most of the time, but simply does not have the compatibility that the newer everdrive offers.

post your N64 collection

>>4615721
Mine

>>4615721

>>4614338
Fave Game
>Perfect Dark
There is just so much to this game.
The firing range, for example, could be a game in and of itself. In 2000, I can't think of any games that had firing ranges in them.
>The missions
The missions in each of the 3 difficulty settings are like 3 different levels. New objectives and new rooms open up. In the case of Carrington Villa and Deep Sea, they are literally different missions.
>The politics of the game
You play as a woman. The main villains are aliens (of unknown gender or whatever). They are in cahoots with a mega corporation. This coroporation's CEO is a woman. The President of the USA is a black (or half-black) guy.
And to think today games try so hard with all this shit and do it all wrong. PD just did it and it wasn't making a big deal about it.
>The inventiveness
The cheese in every level! The secondary functions ! Laptop Gun becomes a wall-mounted drone! AR becomes a proximity mine! Alien pistols with explosive shells! A freaking P-90 that makes you cloak!

The replay value of PD, too. I still play it.

>Multiplayer choice
Mario Tennis in 4 player doubles is better than anything before or since tbqh

>Overrated
Hard to say. A lot of the early releases are pretty overrated like Mario 64 (its good, but the camera angles... Also feels a bit like a demo.) Mario Kart 64 (this hasn't aged well) Yoshi's Story, Blast Corps, Shadows of the Empire etc. These games were hyped up to oblivion.

Speaking of oblivion, beware for it is at hand, yes, I'm talking about you, Turok series. My local game store was selling Turok 1 for 95 quid in '97 when it came out. Turok 2 is alright but its very clunky and the difficulty slope is insane. Way overrated games. I guess what can you expect from Acclaim.

>Underrated game
Perfect Dark and Goldeneye are pretty underrated by modern FPS players. Halo took [console] shooters down the "let's imitate PC shooter" route, which leads to abominations like regenerating health and shitty controls

>>4614338
>>4615759
>Overrated games (cont'd)
Diddy Kong Racing, Pilotwings 64, Wave Race 64. Yeah, basically in the early years the 64 was pretty overrated.
Other overrated games include Mario Party 2 ( I have no idea why people say this is the best one ; MP 1 is better than it outwith the stick rotating business, and if that rules MP 1 out then MP3 is much better than 2. You can carry 3 items and in general its not as shit

>Underrated games
F Zero X
The gameplay on this is so deep, beating the time trials is so difficult, getting to know every ship, and the genius of the track design. I'm so miffed i've never played the DD expansion, and i'd love to one day.

>Latest Purchase
in 2009 I got Banjo Tooie on Ebay for £ 30. I also got a second expansion kit for my 2nd 64 round about then too.

But my most recent recent purchase was Mario Golf in CEX for £ 8. I was expecting greatness because i love Mario Tennis and I always meant to pick this up.
However it was nowhere near Mario Tennis levels , but what I found was a surprisingly deep golf sim.
Mario Golf is deep and rewarding but not too much fun , however as far as golf games go it's good. Gets quite good when youre passing a 'troller round and all trying to get that elusive putt off.

>Also underrated
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
while the Gamecube sequels do what this game wishes it could, this is a solid as fuck game. It's hard as nails too and has plenty replay value. I love how it goes into little side quests from the Star Wars EU to give the "between ep. IV and V" type vibe to it.
A great game.

>>4615754
Are the goemon games hard to find?
How expensive are they?
Not too fond of ebay

>>4614912
I have to admit I only played it a handful of times and it was never the multiplayer. I'll definitely try to give the multiplayer a shot should I get an opportunity to play again.

>Favorite
F-Zero X. Honorable mentions go to Star Fox 64 and Sin & Punishment.
>Overrated
Every 3D Platformer, Pokemon Snap, Every Mario Party and the Bomberman games
>Underrated
Pokemon Puzzle League

>>4615861
Snap is too unique to be overrated. I wish there were more on-rail photograph shooters like it, really, Pokemon or not.

>>4614421
>I legitimately enjoy this more than the PC version
Why?
>Graphics are very sharp
Not really, it is a blurry yellow-tinted thing I'll never get, looks awful.

>>4615721

>>4616056
They're lamps, their light is supposed to be yellow. Try turning down the colour and maybe brightness/saturation of your tv.

>>4616056
>Why?
I literally just said why.
>Not really, it is a blurry yellow-tinted thing I'll never get, looks awful.
It only looks blurry in that photo because the anti-aliasing isn't turned off retard. And I like how you assume the entire game is "yellow-tinted" because you've never actually played it.

>>4616094

My copy comes on Friday, and I'm gonna drink rocktown and beat episode 1. Does Quake 64 have an in-cart save, passwords, or use a memory pak?

>>4616094
This. That fag doesn't know what he's talking about, Quake 64 is probably one of the smoothest looking/playing games on the console. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say I prefer it to the PC if only for mods alone, but it is a great version. Certainly wouldn't associate it with the color yellow.

>>4616130
It has both passwords and memory pak saving. No on-cart saving as is standard for 3rd party N64 games but it uses very little space on the memory pak so it shouldn't be an issue.

Also, I suggest using the following control scheme: d-pad to move, analog to look, A to jump, B to switch weapons backward, L to switch weapons forward. Might be a bit weird at first if you don't usually play N64 shooters with this setup but it's the closest thing to dual analog.

It's a great game, enjoy it.

>Favorite
I like Pokemon Stadium 2 a lot. I think F-Zero X might be second.
>Overrated
I don't know, but I don't like Mortal Kombat Trilogy very much. Or Mario Kart. I have a history of not liking Mario Kart, though.
>Underrated
Maybe Castlevania 64? Seems cool to me.
>Multiplayer choice
Either Bomberman 64 or Super Smash Bros 64. I'll whoop a motherfucker in Pokemon Stadium 2 as well. All the mini-games.
>lastest purchase
I think it was F-Zero X.
>>4614421
I need to get a memory pak so I can save this game. And Castlevania.

>>4615814
They are some of the hardest games to find

>>4616131
He associates it with yellow because screenshots of the first room look yellow because there's a yellow light there.

>>4616192
Which correlates with the fact he's talking about a game he's never played.

>>4616134
>Also, I suggest using the following control scheme: d-pad to move, analog to look, A to jump, B to switch weapons backward, L to switch weapons forward. Might be a bit weird at first if you don't usually play N64 shooters with this setup but it's the closest thing to dual analog.

>>4616208
So, you suggest he uses an inferior control scheme then? What exactly are you trying to say idiot?

>>4616208
>it's another retard that aims with c-buttons episode

>>4616212
The best/only way to play FPS games on N64 is c-button move. He can try that if he wants.

>>4616063
is buck bumble any good?

>>4616214
No, I aim with the analogue and move with the c-buttons like most normal people.

>>4616219
>The best/only way to play FPS games on N64 is c-button move. He can try that if he wants.
You understand that this is a left-handed control scheme right? If you have played any modern console shooter (or PC shooter) and are right-handed, the most natural thing is to move with your left hand and aim with your right. Aiming with the left and moving with buttons is retarded as fuck. Either you have just become accustomed to using a shit control scheme through sheer repetition, or have such tiny hands that you can't reach A/B when holding the middle prong with your right hand. Which is it?

>>4616225
lol bro most normies use the default goldeneye control scheme where you move with the analog stick because they dont even bother trying to change the controls. one of the main reasons people think n64 shooters have shit controls when they really dont. what youre doing is ass backwards.

>>4616221
The only reason to own it if you don't already is for the meme factor

>>4616212
there was a big shitflinging thread a few weeks ago where some anon mentioned that you should use the (1.3 i believe?) control style in perfect dark because it was like double analog. some random sperg got upset because he uses a lefty control scheme and then had a panic attack when he was asked if he played halo by using the right analog stick to move. he kept babbling about how you couldn't use any of the face buttons if you were using the analog stick with your right hand because he has midget hands or something. i'm guessing its the same guy and you just triggered him.

>>4616212
I actually have a gamecube to N64 adapter, and if the game will allow it'll be a twin stick setup.

>>4616252
You can probably finagle it so that the left analog will move in 8 directions by mapping the d-pad controls to it (which might be fine since the GCN controller has an octagonal gate anyway) but it probably won't feel quite as smooth as playing a normal twin stick shooter. Sounds like a nice setup though.

>>4616219
>The best/only way to play FPS games on N64 is c-button move.
So do you play a PC shooter by using the mouse with your left hand and moving with the arrow keys? Because that sounds pretty fucking retarded my dude.

>>4616251
Wait you can use the Rareware two controller setup in the iD ports?

>>4616289
no i didn't mean the two controller setup but rather the style that lets you move with dpad and aim with the analog stick. all of the id shooters other than hexen let you remap any button to any other.

>>4616229
Dude you can talk shit all day and night but you're not going to change physics or facts. The facts are that c-button move is the only one that makes any sense to play on a N64 controller. It is the only one the pros use. Aiming with the left thumb is just as precise as aiming with the right thumb. If it makes you feel better to aim with the right thumb fine, but it's not the ideal way.

>>4616237
That's not been my experience, everyone I knew started using the c-buttons when it was realized how superior they were. Everyone except the TOTAL casuals.

>>4616262
The mouse needs some power to move unlike a analogue stick.

Even then, lots of left-handed people use their right hand to use a mouse.

>>4616221
It's distinctly average. It would be better if it had nixed its lives system.

>>4616317
>Dude you can talk shit all day and night but you're not going to change physics or facts. The facts are that c-button move is the only one that makes any sense to play on a N64 controller. It is the only one the pros use. Aiming with the left thumb is just as precise as aiming with the right thumb. If it makes you feel better to aim with the right thumb fine, but it's not the ideal way.
Your entire argument is "no". You're not addressing anything I just said to you. Physics and facts dictate that if you're right handed, you move with your left and aim with your right. How dense are you? Your only defense is to say "the pros use it", yeah the fucking bald trannies who speedrun Goldeneye levels by moving diagonally and not even moving the camera. Stop being a fucking idiot. Are you telling me that if you play any modern console shooter, you're going to use the right fucking stick to move and the left stick to look if you're a right-handed person? No? Then why the fuck would do it on an N64 controller?

>>4616317
>bro it's a fact that C buttons are the best way to play
>doesn't give any actual reasons for why and ignores the fact that 100% of modern console shooters have you moving with the left analog
lmao stay retarded friendo

>>4616342
>Are you telling me that if you play any modern console shooter, you're going to use the right fucking stick to move and the left stick to look if you're a right-handed person? No? Then why the fuck would do it on an N64 controller?
he has small hands, tried out the different control styles and found that he couldn't reach a and b while using the dpad so now he preaches about c buttons because he's a manlet and it's the next best thing. that's literally the reason. you can all go home now.

>>4616317
>aiming with your non-dominant hand is as precise as aiming with your dominant hand
>moving with buttons is just as good as moving with a directional pad
>pushing the trigger button with your left hand makes more sense than shooting than pressing with your right hand like you would an actual gun
This kind of stupidity is physically upsetting.

what multplats where better on N64?

>>4616056
No one outside of hard cores had high end graphic cards back then.

>>4616432
Not Megaman Legends.

>>4616432
Compared to PS1 and/or Saturn versions:

Rayman 2: most faithful version besides Dreamcast with best graphics and without cut content like the PS1.

Hexen: most faithful to PC version, best graphics, 4 player co-op and deathmatch, PS1 and Saturn are very limited and don't even have side or back sprites for monsters or proper death animations

Quake 1: best graphics, best controls, steady framerate up to 60fps, most faithful gameplay to the PC version, is missing a few levels compared to the Saturn but overall far superior experience and Saturn runs with single digit framerate 75% of the time.

Quake 2: PS1 is more faithful to PC original but N64 version has all brand new levels, no load times, better deathmatch, fully customizable controls, better overall graphics aside from animations, added muzzle flash (which no other version has) and is the only 5th gen game ever made to run in true 24bit color.

Gauntlet Legends: best version of the game even moreso than the arcade port, best graphics and visual effects, 4 player, has some unique features, PS1 version only supports 2 players, has half as many enemies on screen, doesn't let you sell item you find and lacks some visual effects

I will mention that for many games, like Hexen, there are no FMV cutscenes for obvious reasons. Outside of that, N64 multiplats are superior to either Saturn or PS1 99% of the time.

>>4616432
ComparandoGames isn't very good for retro stuff, he uses emulators for them and you can clearly see in that image how inaccurate they're being represented.
Also >>4614430

>>4616221
It was my first N64 game, the theme song makes it worth a purchase. If you like flight combat you'll probably enjoy it, it's like a open ended Star Fox. Sometimes that's nightmarish, sometimes it's really cool.

>>4616469

In 1996 we had a 486 DX 33 ... and it was years before I could play quake at 30 fps. If I were smart I'd have gotten it for N64

>>4616451
Yeah I really love the N64 version of Gauntlet Legends. You can deactivate items and horde them, and a lot of the animations are at a much higher framerate than even the arcade version has. Plus I'm pretty sure this is the only version where you can play as Sumner.

>>4616478

It was one of my favorite games growing up, and if it hadn't been that tedious last level or so, I'd still play it all the time.

>>4615535
Dude my ed64 plus works really really well but i think its an update of the older one that was very shitty according to costumers. The only games that had problems were banjo tooie, jet force gemini and nothing more. Theres games that dont work like wwf no mercy and animal crossing with the internal clock meme.

>>4615535
I have one and they all work just fine. The problem might actually be the ROM itself, they're probably bad or haven't had the anti-piracy stuff dummied out. Grab them again from rom depot (it's up again) and try them out one more time.

>>4616374
>>aiming with your non-dominant hand is as precise as aiming with your dominant hand

It's about the same but even if it's significantly worse, it's more than made up for by the fact that your right hand is completely free. Your left hand has only a single job to do. Your "dominant" hand is able to hit all the other buttons very quickly, better reaction.

>>moving with buttons is just as good as moving with a directional pad

It is it' just four buttons.

>>pushing the trigger button with your left hand makes more sense than shooting than pressing with your right hand like you would an actual gun

I never said that, I use my right hand for the trigger. That's a really important button that has to be hit fast. Hence the right hand.

Honestly if I had realized your post was going to be this dumb I'd never have started answering it, I must have misread it at first when I started to I don't know what I was thinking. At least your first point has some sort of sense to it.

>>4616520
>It's about the same but even if it's significantly worse, it's more than made up for by the fact that your right hand is completely free. Your left hand has only a single job to do. Your "dominant" hand is able to hit all the other buttons very quickly, better reaction.
Holy fucking shit kid how stupid are you? Try throwing a baseball with your non-dominant hand and tell me that it's "about the same" as throwing with your dominant hand. Also, what is this bullshit about your hand being "free"? You have access to the same amount of inputs using both methods, one is just left-handed and uses shitty C buttons and one doesn't. What is so hard to understand about this?
>It is it' just four buttons.
Buttons are not the same thing as a directional pad idiot. There's more surface area and all of the inputs are connected via one button, making it easier to move diagonally.
>I never said that, I use my right hand for the trigger. That's a really important button that has to be hit fast. Hence the right hand.
So let me get this straight... you have your left hand on the middle prong, using the analog stick to aim, and then you press the Z button with your right hand? What the fuck are you smoking?
>Honestly if I had realized your post was going to be this dumb I'd never have started answering it
You are legitimately one of the stupidest people currently on this board. That's not even an exaggeration.

>>4616520
>a right handed person aiming something with their left hand is "about the same" as aiming with their right

>>4616520
>hitting the z trigger is important so i have to use my right hand
>aiming isn't important so you don't need to use your right hand for that though!

>>4616550
Imagine if there was some way... some bizarre method by which you could not only aim, but also shoot, using only your right hand... hmm.

>>4616536

First of all, stop samefagging. It's low and so obvious, you're humiliating yourself.

>Holy fucking shit kid how stupid are you? Try throwing a baseball with your non-dominant hand and tell me that it's "about the same" as throwing with your dominant hand.

Because you need muscle to throw a baseball quickly. If you had to throw it a tiny distance with accuracy, and you practiced with your left hand as much as your right, they would be very similar.

>Also, what is this bullshit about your hand being "free"? You have access to the same amount of inputs using both methods, one is just left-handed and uses shitty C buttons and one doesn't. What is so hard to understand about this?

I understand fine. The thumb that is on the analogue should stay on the analogue, it shouldn't have to move around. I'm honestly starting to wonder if any of you even played these games.

Buttons are not the same thing as a directional pad idiot. There's more surface area and all of the inputs are connected via one button, making it easier to move diagonally.

No it's not. The c-buttons are so close to each other there is no difference.

>So let me get this straight... you have your left hand on the middle prong, using the analog stick to aim, and then you press the Z button with your right hand? What the fuck are you smoking?

No, I hold the left prong in my left hand and the analogue with my thumb. I have big hands, but if I had little girl hands like you and had to use the middle prong I would still hit z with my right hand.

>deleting last comment due to forgetting to quote.

>>4616536

First of all, stop samefagging. It's low and so obvious, you're humiliating yourself.

>Holy fucking shit kid how stupid are you? Try throwing a baseball with your non-dominant hand and tell me that it's "about the same" as throwing with your dominant hand.

Because you need muscle to throw a baseball quickly. If you had to throw it a tiny distance with accuracy, and you practiced with your left hand as much as your right, they would be very similar.

>Also, what is this bullshit about your hand being "free"? You have access to the same amount of inputs using both methods, one is just left-handed and uses shitty C buttons and one doesn't. What is so hard to understand about this?

I understand fine. The thumb that is on the analogue should stay on the analogue, it shouldn't have to move around. I'm honestly starting to wonder if any of you even played these games.

>Buttons are not the same thing as a directional pad idiot. There's more surface area and all of the inputs are connected via one button, making it easier to move diagonally.

No it's not. The c-buttons are so close to each other there is no difference.

>So let me get this straight... you have your left hand on the middle prong, using the analog stick to aim, and then you press the Z button with your right hand? What the fuck are you smoking?

No, I hold the left prong in my left hand and the analogue with my thumb. I have big hands, but if I had little girl hands like you and had to use the middle prong I would still hit z with my right hand.

>>4616571
>First of all, stop samefagging. It's low and so obvious, you're humiliating yourself.
Imagine being so assblasted that you have to pretend multiple people calling you retarded is "samefagging".
>Because you need muscle to throw a baseball quickly. If you had to throw it a tiny distance with accuracy, and you practiced with your left hand as much as your right, they would be very similar.
Replace baseball with literally any manual task requiring precision and you are still dead wrong. The fact you can even make this absurd argument is ridiculous.
>I understand fine. The thumb that is on the analogue should stay on the analogue, it shouldn't have to move around. I'm honestly starting to wonder if any of you even played these games.
This is beyond stupid. If the analog stick is controlling aiming, then you would simply not be able to move the camera for a moment while switching weapons. With your control scheme, you have to switch your thumb from the C buttons to A/B, meaning you stop moving. That is retarded as fuck.
>No it's not. The c-buttons are so close to each other there is no difference.
Your are too stupid to understand the difference between buttons and a dpad... holy fuck man.
>No, I hold the left prong in my left hand and the analogue with my thumb. I have big hands, but if I had little girl hands like you and had to use the middle prong I would still hit z with my right hand.
LOL, no fucking way. This comment has me wondering if you're trolling or you legitimately have a spectrum disorder. Are you seriously telling me you mean you don't even use the middle prong? You're fucking with me, right?

>>4616571
>No, I hold the left prong in my left hand and the analogue with my thumb.
>holding the N64 controller like actors do on TV show that have never used one
please tell me this is a joke

>>4616571
I'm 6'5'' and have NBA nigger sized hands and there's no way in hell I'd be holding an N64 controller like this. The fuck?

>>4616571
>if I had little girl hands like you
Anon is probably a manlet and I have no horse in this race, but uhh... you realize you're holding the controller like most women do, right?

>>4616614
Maybe he's a tranny? That would explain his fascination with speedrunners, too.

>>4616626
its probably princess seven leaf

>>4616614
>you realize you're holding the controller like most women do, right?

They don't.

>>4616606
Not using the goat controller

>Favorite game?
Banjo Kazooie
>Multiplayer choice?
Gauntlet Legends
>Most Overrated
Diddy Kong Racing, I guess. There aren't many games on the system that I don't like that are well liked. I still like it, but it's not that great.
>Underrated game?
Gauntlet Legends. Probably my favorite arcade port of all time, really wish the modern versions were more like it and Dark Legacy more than the originals.
>Latest purchase related to the system?
An Everdrive 64, back when 2.0 was the latest one.

>>4614338
>favourite
Paper Mario

>multiplayer choice
Super Smash Bros

I always felt Zelda was over rated but that's because I never played it. I saw somebody play it and it didn't have a jump button so I never wanted to play it and I still haven't.

Underated I would go with Bomberman 1. I was put off by the no jumping factor again but got back into it a few years later and really liked it.

>>4616642
>goat controller

I disagree, it's goat stick but the placement is a bit odd. I find myself drifting to the right while pushing upward. The stick is godly. I honestly want to put this in an oem controller but it won't physically fit. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd learn 3d printing and make an oem style that it would fit into.

>>4616676
use GCN stick

>>4616637
>They don't.
I know you haven't been around many women so you don't have a point of reference, but yeah, they really do faggot.

>>4616705
> they really do
Not to mention actors. I remember seeing a list on some wiki of "actors holding the N64 controller wrong". How we can live in the year of our lord 2018 and still have someone stupid enough to think that holding the controller this way is correct is unbelievable.

>>4616716
Ive been holding it that way for over 20 years not my fault im not a handlet

>>4616716
Unless they're playing KI Gold, that is.

>>4616739
the right middle and ring finger hits the z button and I usually have my left hand my toward the middle than my right

>>4616516
>The problem might actually be the ROM itself
I tried about a dozen various roms for PD, but will have to try again. I am new at N64 roms. I owned most of the games on cart, and 2 years ago when I was moving I got the shits of carting all of it around, so I gave it to my sister and her Soyboy husband. It was over 40 titles, and all were quality. No sports fillers EXCEPT Nba Hangtime & QB club with the high resolution option. The flash cart saves me loads of time and space. It also allowed me to get my orange 64 and ditch that boring graphite colored system.

>>4616490
>i think its an update of the older one
I don't know the differences, but mine does not have a cart slot on the top. I have had it only a few months. I got sick of Hangtime tearing up my thumb, so I had to get some other games lol.

I was a bad citizen, and forgot to list

>Most overrated/Underrated

This is tough for me. I think Smash bros is overrated. It is good, but I still don't understand the cult following. Later versions seemed much better. Turok was an awesome game, and really did not get the press that Golden eye did. Id go so far to say that Turok was better then Golden eye for SP.

I loved Goldeneye. Don't get me wrong. My save still exists with my 1:31 seconds in the facility. The game was entirely unlocked by hard work and sheer will.

>>4616516
>Grab them again from rom depot
As a test, I did just that.

What I get is no different.

I get "text" or something that is all crunched up on the bottom 1/8th of the screen, and after a few moments it goes black.

Same result as when I bought it and spent days trying to get it to work.

Pic is what I get, and I have tried all roms included in the pack. Months ago when I went through all this, I came here to ask questions and basically got shit on for not spending 3x more for the best flash cart reader. I wasn't offered any help, just flamed for getting exactly what I expected.

My problem is that by all accounts this should not be a problem title.

It is what it is. I am not missing out on the titles that matter to me. I got the flash cart to save space, so no matter what I am still ahead.

I may get the Everdrive, but my gaming habits would need to warrant me playing Perfect Dark.

Did perfect dark have some sort of piracy protection?

>>4616739
It isn't your fault that you're retarded either, don't worry.

>>4616742
It's fine to hold the controller this way if you're playing a game that uses the dpad like KI, Tetrisphere or Kirby, but trying to manipulate the analog stick with your thumb at a horizontal angle is concentrated autism.

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Pilotwings

>Multiplayer choice?
Beetle Adventure Racing

>Most Overrated
DK64

> Most Underrated
Beetle Adventure Racing

>tfw almost all of my favorite games ever are n64 games

>>4616432
Resident evil 2: Better character models, better controls, more extras, less jaggies, 1 cartridge. Audio was shit though

Vigilante series: Higher res, better draw distance, less jaggies

>favorite game
sm64
>multiplayer choice
mario party 2 or fzero x
>most overrated
Oot? although i like the game
>most underrated
fzero probably
mystical ninja goemon and doom 64 both great

>>4617026
nice taste.

>>4616716
But everybody loves Raymond

>DK64
>Overrated
That game gets shitted on a lot

boop

>>4617026
Donkey Kong Country is so fucking hard to find

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
>Multiplayer choice?
Cruis'n USA
>Most Overrated?
Goldeneye, game fucking sucks cock, i knew it was trash when i was 12 years old and it still blows my mind that people like this game today
>Most Underrated?
Mischief Makers. It does get a lot of love on /vr/ but I sincerely believe it's on the level of Mario 64 as far as having actually good and fun gameplay.
>Latest purchase related to the system?
I recently discovered I'm a cardboard autist, so I've been buying CIB imports from japan. Most recently picked up both Zelda games and Wave Race

>Favorite game
Banjo-Tooie

>Multiplayer choice
Super Smash Bros / Mario Kart 64

>Most Overrated
Ocarina of Time

>Most Underrated game
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Bomberman 64: The Second Attack


>Latest purchase related to the system
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon. I haven't played it yet, but I hear good things about it.

>>4616432
some say Duke Nukem but it has no music at all and no quicksaves
the Tony Hawk games looked better but had worse soundtracks
Resident Evil 2 was on one cart and looked better, had a randomizer too. it doesn't have battle mode though
Rayman 2 was heavily cut down on ps1.
Rainbow Six was also cut down
Glover runs like ass on ps1, so does Shadowman
Hydro Thunder is slower but also doesn't look like puke. pick your poison
San Francisco Rush has horrific load times and worse graphics on ps1
Mortal Kombat 4 had more polygons. Mortal Kombat Trilogy has Goro on ps1 but also horrific load times. Pick your poison
not sure where Ridge Racer 64 lies (port of 1 and Revolution with a new track). it looks better but the soundtrack isn't as good
Mission Impossible was better on n64.
Vigilante 8 has an extra level and looks nicer
most of the 3D Midway sports games are better, especially Wayne Gretzky Hockey

>>4619579
thanks really nice list there, the problem with games that used soundtracks like Tony Hawk are heavily downsampled, I wonder what game made the best use of music on N64.

>>4616037
unique =/= good
in fact snap is shovelware. if the game wasn't about pokemon it would've been shat on by critics and forgotten.

>>4619982
I don't agree. If it wasn't about pokemon I'd still love it, in fact I'd love to have a Snap-like game but with a different theme.

>Favorite game?
Star Fox
>Multiplayer choice?
DKR
>Most Overrated
Really not sure on this one.
I kind of like most all the popular games for one reason or another, and any I don't like are pretty universally understood to be lack luster anyway.
>Underrated game?
Mrs.Pacman Maze Madness.
>Latest purchase related to the system?
Just ordered an import of Kirby the other day.

Nice thread. I just got an Everdrive and I'm glad I finally picked one up. Fuck N64 emulation. Replaying this now and I wish I would have gave it more of a chance as a kid. I probably would have if I didn't get it at the same time as Mario 64

>>4618070
it's overrated in the context of comparing it to Banjo tooie, which has confusing backtracking

DK64 is tedious but pretty simple, and you only need a 50% completion rate

>>4614421
>60fps at many times
Am I remembering this game wrong

>>4620125
People are always saying Tooie is superior to DK64.
I've seen more people hating it than liking it, and the ones that like it it doesn't go too far from " yeah, it alright" or "i have nostalgia for it".

>>4614410
>That game has always been shit.
Kys

>>4614702
MM is for those who are really good at Zelda.

>Get an everdrive to avoid buying games
>Shitload of these games require memory pak to save
I only have the one and there's a bunch of asshole games like Shadow Man 64 that need over half the capacity, what the fuck man. Am I gonna have to buy like 5 more of these fucking things or is there a way to sidestep this bullshit without turning to poorly coded emulators?

>>4620621
I think latest version of everdrive can emulate controller paks.
Otherwise, buy a performace 4-in-1 pak and replace the battery

I have an ED64 and it's fantastic.

Favorite game is either Mario 64, Mario Tennis, or F-Zero X

Plenty of runner ups

Multi is Mario Party, Smash Bros, or Perfect Dark

Most overrated imo is Majora's Mask, most underrated are Pilotwings 64 and Tetrisphere.

Last purchase was more controllers with good sticks.

>>4614776
I remember this, a friend rented it as a kid and said I should play it since it was nostalgic. We proceeded to beat the game in 10 minutes by spamming jump kick. What a garbage game.

>>4616432
I am struggling to figure out what area of the game this is supposed to be, I've played this game dozens of times and there's nothing coming up in my mind that resembles this.

Anyone know?

>>4620621
Turok 2 is eating 90 fucking pages

>>4620621
Theres tons of those chinese ones on aliexpress for dirt cheap

>>4616368
I'm confused, how are you suggesting that one should press A and B when using d-pad for movement? I've always used c buttons for movement. My left thumb was already proficient with the joystick it didn't make much sense to switch.

>>4620892
The very beginning of the game

>>4614705

Holy shit anon. To be honest, I was worried you might be trolling me. But, Quake 64 came today and it's the smoothest running N64 shooter I've ever played. It plays as well as the PC version. Twin stick via the GC controller works absolutely amazingly, by the way.

Glad you're enjoying it bro, you've got good taste. I wasn't lying when I said it was one of the best shooters on the console and my favorite version of the game. Nothing like playing this game in the dark with a few drinks in you and listening to some good tunes while you soak in the atmosphere. Just a great game.

Also if you feel like dicking around, go to the password screen and type in all Q's and it'll unlock god mode, all weapons, level select, etc. Definitely beat it on Nightmare legit though, it's such a rewarding experience.

>>4621583
woops meant to reply to >>4621556

>>4620256
Yes

>>4616571
>I have big hands, but if I had little girl hands like you and had to use the middle prong I would still hit z with my right hand.
How the fuck? WHY the fuck?
Do you insist on turning doorknobs with your feet? Do you refuse to steer a vehicle with anything other than your elbows?? Why do you do this?

>>4621756
Having dropped this in, it seems pretty clear that it's running well above 30 fps if there's not too much happening on screen.

I only got a chance to play level 1 and 2 for the moment, but I only dropped frames when there was a LOT happening. Even then, the stutter was really brief. I'd also turned off anti-alaising, I'm not sure if that helps.

>>4621782
What's even worse is that he claims this is the only proper way to hold the controller and that "most" people play this way. Any time somebody mentions a good control scheme for an N64 game he has an autistic breakdown and starts screaming about holding the controller this way.

>>4621785
Yeah, there is some occasional slowdown but generally it's when there are like 10 enemies on screen and ogres are popping off a bunch of grenades and stuff. Generally speaking it runs smooth as butter, easily the most consistent framerate of any shooter on the console other than Doom 64 for obvious reasons.

>>4621786

Whoa now. No reason to re-hash all that insane bullshit about whether or not one control scheme is superior. The game allows you to map any action to any button, nullifying any argument.

>>4621807
Regardless of what's superior or not, holding the controller with a hand on the two furthest handles, trying to use the analog with your left thumb and then shooting by pressing Z with your right fingers is absolute concentrated autism.

>>4614338
>Favorite game?
Tough choice. OoT, maybe? SM64? Nah, I'll go with Star Wars: Rouge Squadron ultimately.
>Multiplayer choice?
Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, but PD was harder to get people for as it was nearer to the end of the 64's life-cycle.
>Most Overrated?
Goldeneye or OoT easily.
Underrated game?
Bomberman 64 or Duke Nukem: Zero Hour or Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Latest purchase related to the system?
Paper Mario way back when.

>Ovverated
OoT
>Underrated
Earthworm Jim 3d

I've got about 15 or so games left and I'll be satisfied.

I never had many friends growing up. Wish I'd have been able to do multiplayer shit.

>>4621787
just breezed through Cthon on normal difficulty. not an impressive achievement, but really fun and the same. this is honestly in the top three shooters in N64

>Favorite game
Mario 64
>Best Multiplayer
Smash or Mario party
>Overrated
Either OOT or Majoras
>Underrated
Bomberman Hero. Ive never heard much talk of this game but it was one of the best experiences on the system
>Latest Purchase
a new controller like last week

>>4614421
Midway really were the unsung heroes of the N64 when you think about it.

>>4621927
Yeah, like I said, it doesn't have all the impressive technical features that stuff like PD does but it's just so damn smooth. Once you play on Nightmare, that's when things get fun, because you have to be really smart about how you manage your resources and careful about how you approach certain areas. Most of the secrets from the PC version are there too (including some new ones I believe) so there's some cool stuff to find, including alternative exits to the secret levels.

I'd say what makes it impressive in my eyes is that they were able to pull it off at all. It's easy to make a really good looking game that runs like ass, but they effectively shoved what would have taken a $1500 PC at the time into a $200 console with only minor cutbacks and with a solid framerate no less. When you compare it to the Saturn port, it's a night and day difference. I'd say this, PD and Doom 64 form my holy trinity of shooters on the console.

Also check out Quake 2 at some point. It was made by the same guys, has all brand-new levels, a way better multiplayer and is the only 5th gen game ever made to run in true 24bit color.

>>4621940
I've said the same thing many times, glad somebody else recognizes it too. They made so many killer games: the Quakes, Doom 64, Gauntlet Legends, Rampage, even fucking World Driver, and they were always better than the versions made for other consoles. I recall hearing something about Midway being one of Nintendo "core developers" at the time and being given special resources/documentation that surely helped. Everybody praises Rare (understandably), but Midway was amazing too.

>>4621948
Didn't Midway and Rare team up to create the Killer Instinct arcade cabinets?
They were at the top of their game during the N64 era, no doubt.

>>4621952
Oh shit, didn't even know this but I looked it up and you're right. Pretty cool that they worked together.

>>4621952
>>4621948
Yeah Midway was tight with Nintendo because Rareware and Midway were tight, it was a sort of chain reaction of relationships so Midway either did extra work or received help from Nintendo themselves for a lot of their N64 ports.

>Favorite
Ocarina of Time
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Majora's Mask

>Multiplayer
Bad Fur Day hands down. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it is my favorite multiplayer game of all time

>Latest purchase
I actually just bought a second N64 yesterday. I've decided that I'm finally gonna play Quake 2 and Perfect Dark. What am I in for?

>>4614421
I just started playing Quake 2 yesterday. It's fun but I', already finding glitches that are gonna drive me crazy. Some of the secret switches aren't activating so I can't 100% the game. Is this common with the N64 ports for these games?

>>4622125
Impeccable taste my friend. As for Q2 and PD, you're in for two of the best shooters on the console. Mods/online aside, Quake 2 is legitimately better on N64 than PC and has all brand-new levels. The only bad thing I can say is that the weapon animations can be choppy, but you quickly get used to it and the addition of muzzle flash wins me over. PD is a different story, it's legitimately one of the best shooters ever made and has features that shooters today don't even have. Customizable AI bots, you can make your own character model, tweak matches with tons of modifiers, etc. Fantastic game.
>>4622127
I have beaten Quake 2 on every difficulty level at least twice and never once had this problem. Either you're playing on an emulator, have a broken cart or are doing something wrong. You know some switches have to be shot, right? Give me an example of one that isn't working for you.

>>4622129
Docking Station. Level 7 I think. There are 3 explosive charges that you have to set up before completing the level. At the final charge location there's supposed to be a switch that opens a secret room in a nearby wall. I cleared the entire level of enemies and even tried setting the final charge (which sets off a countdown) nut the switch doesn't even seem to be there, it's just a regular textured piece of tech. Skip to 5:40, that's where the switch is supposed to be.
https://youtu.be/XnbRED_Z514

>>4622145
So wait, you say the switch is "supposed to be there", what makes you think it's "supposed" to be? What are you going off of to think that there's one there? If I have a moment I'll check the level myself.

>>4622145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGEntXMuBM

go to 8 minutes in. the guy touches a little panel and a wall opens on his right. is this what you're talking about? this guy got 100% of the secrets for the level so it shouldn't be an issue

>>4622147
>>4622150
I've watched a couple playthroughs of the level and they all have that little panel on the side of the glowing green generator. When I played through the level, that panel was nowhere to be found. I made sure it was the correct room and everything. I even played through twice just to be sure.

>>4622152
Is it possible for you to take a video at all? Like maybe go to the spot and just snap it with your phone real quick or something? I don't know what would be causing that other than playing on emu or there being something wrong with your cart. I've never had anything like that happen.

>>4622152
Oh also, did you by any chance buy this game off of eBay or somewhere? Like one of those really cheap listings that looks like it's brand new and usually has plastic wrap on it in the photo? If so it might be a repro in which case that would be your answer.

>>4622154
>>4622159
it's a bit too late for me to try and snap a vid or pic of it now. and the game was actually given to me as a gift. purchased at a retro game store. is there any other way I can tell if it's a repro?

>>4622164
Well first, does it look like it's brand new? Is there a small imprinted number on the right side of the back label? Is the front label kind of glossy with dark colors, does it look different from other pics of cartridges online? If you have the necessary security bits, you can open it up real quick and examine the board for stuff like a Nintendo logo to help ensure that it's real.

Either it's a repro or busted because even if it was a glitch, it would be a one time thing and not something that continues to persist each time you replay the level.

>>4616063

It's odd that you have Tonic Trouble but not Rayman 2.

>>4622167
it looks pretty old. no imprinted number. it looks about the same as pics online.

I guess there's nothing I can do but replay the level again and hope for different results. Honestly, I hope the panel is there and I'm just retarded. I really appreciate the help, Anon.

>>4622181
> no imprinted number
If there's no imprinted number then it's a 99% chance you have a fake.

But yeah, try again and see if any thing changes. No problem.

>>4622182
UPDATE: There is an imprinted number on my cartridge, I wasn't looking for th right thing when I check the first time

>Expansion Pak Enhanced!
>Using the enhancements makes the framerate even shittier
You pretty much only need this shit for the 6 games that actually require it.

>>4622291
Are you saying that using the jumper pak in games that don't require the expansion pak improves frame rate?

>>4622301

In some games, yes. Some developers were clever about this, while some just used the Expansion Pak to increase resolution, consequences be damned. Frankly, though looking at the list of games and features indicates the Expansion Pak was largely used for performance or feature improvements!

Perfect Dark is the example everyone thinks of, since it drops to single digit frame rates in some levels with high resolution mode enabled. This is not really a valid example, though, since the whole of PD's single player requires the Expansion Pak to run anyhow.

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This list here does show which games require or make use of the Pak: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_64_Expansion_Pak

Quake II for N64, for example, runs much more smoothly with the Expansion Pak.

Note that many games offer the option "higher resolution at the cost fewer FPS." This shouldn't be surprising, and is really just a sign of a lazy developer. The Expansion Pak is simply more RAM. RAM doesn't make the N64 process anything any more quickly, just allows for larger textures or other information to be held in memory.

Note that for F-1 World Grand Prix II, the Expansion Pak allows "a full race replay." This makes sense, since presumably it is holding that data in memory.

For Gauntlet Legends, it's required for 4-player (which is really one of the most amazing ways to play this game!)

And some developers were smart: the Expansion Pak brings Road Rash 64 from 30 fps to 60! For South Park, it "Enables hi-res mode, increases frame rate in lo-res mode." Etc ....

>>4622168
Funny you should mention that. I bought Rayman Legends for Switch last month, making that my first Rayman game.
I loved it.

I really hoped more games used the expansion pak, either for hi-res or improved fps
>Star Wars Racer Low-res doesn't improve framerate with expansion pak

>>4622378
all the tony hawk games use the expansion pak to "improve performance". Not sure if this is framerate or resolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ok5AV7ZrM

My favorite game is definetly tetrisphere

>>4622410
Legends/Origins are fantastic games, give Rayman 2 a shot when you can, is a great game all around.

>>4614338
I've recently uploaded a 2 hour mix of relaxing N64 ost if anyones down to listen. Tracklist with times and mp3 download in description, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np3VlDBodI0