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>>4593415
>best song in the game
The Great Warrior

>best party member
Cid because he lights a cigarette after every battle

>tifa or aerith
Tim Rogers' Found in Translation series is making me wish I could I experience Aeris' personality in Japanese. Tifa is kind of a dork by comparison, but in a good way.

I don't know, they're both cool.

>best song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD5jO1H_llU

I don't know if it's the best one, but I like it. It's a lot of things. Spooky, foreboding, a little sorrowful, somewhat alien-sounding, and it has a degree of intrigue.

It properly conveys all the things the Forgotten Capital should. You feel like you're among the bones of a people that was never (and will never be) fully understood. The strange stillness and lack of life, even enemies, creeps you out a bit. And most of all, you feel like something bad is going to happen, and it does.

>best party member
I like Barrett. I think he has the greatest growth and complexity of anyone in the game. Cloud doesn't really grow, he just becomes less broken.

>>4593445
>cid
wasn't he beating his wife over spilling his coffee or something when you meet him for the first time

what a lad

>>4593471
I don't think it's implied he's laid a hand on her, but he most certainly isn't pleasant for her to be around when you meet the both of them.

>>4593415
>best song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeIefheO3h0
>best party member
Nanaki
>tifa or aerith
Yuffie

>>4593468
i'm glad someone mentionned this one so quickly. It's one of my favorites too even though the whole soundtrack is so genius.

>>4593415
>>tifa or aerith
Barret.

>>4593415
>best song in the game
https://soundcloud.com/iambulb/prelude-bombfare-final-fantasy I cri every time

>>4593887
At first I thought you were having a laugh, but now that I remember you could 'score points' with Barret and go on the ride with him, right?

>>4593415
>>best song in the game
Too many to choose.
>>best party member
Cid is best boi
>>tifa or aerith
The one that isn't dead.

I've been playing a little bit of the PC version on my legacy Windows 98 machine, mostly because I wanted to try out the Yamaha S-YXG100 Plus softsynth on an actual game and FF7's PC version has special support for XG softsynths. I REALLY dig the atmosphere of the slums and the dark undertones of the AVALANCHE missions, but I can't imagine the game focusing on those when you got that long-haired twink and the cute flower girl got murdered the fuck up to worry about. A shame. Eh, at least the music is really good. And Tifa is pretty fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-88lztWg7w

>>4594550
That's actually pretty kickass, too bad you can't play the PS1 original with that sound for curiousity's sake.

>>4594576
The PC version got a bad rep for sound, mostly because of preteens who watch hack streamers who don't know one single shit about MIDI in older games. FF7 on PC has special support for XG MIDI playback and even came with the S-YXG70 softsynth to play the MIDI in that variation, and yeah, it sounds pretty good. Now, you won't get voice samples in One Winged Angel but its still a blast to listen to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSkip48Z3Bw This one is pretty great as well.

>>4594576
>>4594589
Now, before you mention it though, no, you can't use the softsynth with DOS games on legacy hardware, I guess because Windows treats it and DOS programs with two different sessions of use, and DOS only taps into DOS-specific uses for a sound card and S-YXG is strictly Windows. I did hear that sound cards like the Aureal Vortex 2 and some sort of Yamaha card can use the S-YXG in DOS but I haven't seen any video evidence.

>best song in the game
Not a huge fan of the soundtrack for VII alhough it's hugely nostalgic. Much prefer III, IV and VIII for memorable themes and motifs. Very bias towards snow parts of RPGs so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeIefheO3h0

>best party member
Tifa for her hit%, Barret for his story

>tifa or aerith
Always a Tifa boy as a kid

>>4594550
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-88lztWg7w
What a unique sound, that's great. FF7 has one of the all time best OSTs out there imo, so it's nice to hear variations of the soundtrack I have not heard before.
As for your atmosphere comment, if you haven't played through the game before, I think you'll be pleased that it retains a noticeable atmosphere and ambiance even in locations outside of Midgar.

>>4594119
>yfw during the "date" he accuses you of having designs for 4 year old Marlene

>>4594589
>sound
That and it was a literally unplayable buggy piece of shit that needed several official and fan patches to even approach a releasable state. Don't let your sound chip boner cover up the facts.

>>4594623
Hey, come on now, I was just curious about odd support for obscure pieces of legacy software. And I haven't even said anything about the general quality of the port, which I am well aware of, just the sound. Keep the knickers untwisted.

>>4593445
>english only cucks thinking they understand ff7’s plot

>>4594652
you serve no purpose

>>4594652
boring b8, also nice nu-/v/ reaction image, crossboarder

>>4594658
>>4594679
He was just have fun with a little joke my friend

Awesome game. Played it for the first time like two years ago so I don’t have childhood nostalgia for it, but it’s easily one of my favorite rpgs. Might be in my top ten games period, honestly.

Favorite song is yuffie’s theme.
Yuffie is probably my favorite party member. Red 13 and Barret were also great though. But let’s be real, by far the most useful party member is Mr. Pointer. Game would’ve been borderline unplayable without him showing where you are.

I like both Aeris and Tifa. Forced to choose, I’d probably pick Tifa. She’s got a sort of gentleness to her that I like. And holy shit those titties are to die for.

E. Skill Materia is the fucking best.

>>4593415
i love FF7, warts and all, but i think acknowledging the warts is fine. it's a good 7/10 in my book, with some stellar moments.

>best song in the game
too many great songs. what i loved is that the PS sound chip was an evolution of the SNES sound chip, so uematsu got to explore the vast array of new options and tools within an environment he already acquired mastery in. red book audio is a meme.

i'll nominate the main/map theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU

the first time we hear it was when the party first steps outside midgar and enters the world map. seeing the world open up to this tune was magical. it's somber and timid at first, as if still under the impression of midgar, before it slowly makes its way into greater heights fifty seconds in. it's not an even way out, constantly lapsing back into melancholy, but time and again it breaks out in a tune as elegic and jubilant, even brave, as it gets.

that's sort of my other major reason too. the theme goes places, like a story within a story. a full seven minutes of everything you experience in the game, tinged with melancholy and the oppressive feeling of ominous and constant danger, making the brief moments of relief and elegy all the more uplifting.

>best party member
gotta admit they effectively all feel sorta same-ish due to the materia system. can't tell.

>tifa or aerith
can't decide, won't decide. it wasn't until my third playthrough in 2013 that i really understood them. they were a spunky tomboy chick with titties and Flower Girl with Mysterious Past to me when i was younger. with every playthrough, i felt fonder of both.

aerith' playfulness and mischievous streak are fucking great, and her subtle disconnect with the rest of the party stemming from her inner sense of duty towards her ancestors, something literally no one else on the world can fully relate to, make her fate even more tragic. i love tifa's genuine care for cloud, her humbleness, and her maturity.

>>4593415
>best song in the game
Oh man. I'm stuck between world map theme and Cosmo Canyon.

>best party member
I really fucking like Tifa. She always came through, even when I was 11 years old and playing this game when it first released.

>tifa or aerith
Tifa no contest. I didn't get enough time to understand Aerith or play with her much. She dies early and... honestly I like Tifa's personality more. Bravo to Square for killing her off; it's the last time that company did anything requiring balls.

I need to replay this since getting a copy of the International Version. I'm curious about some of the differences versus the original English release. I believe this one fixes some bugs, but should otherwise be the same game.

>best song in the game
The Life Stream
>best party member
Vincent. Sure, he's outclassed during the later half of the game, but you can purchase a rather overpowered gun with max accuracy from Costa del Sol. Pair that with Deathblow + All materia and grinding becomes trivial.
>tifa or aerith
Barret. Tifa and Aeris are both easy sluts with already high preset affection levels. Barret makes you work to earn the privilege.

Too bad Cid isn't datable.

On another note, why was Crisis Core so bad? I mean you'd think it be hard enough to fuck up a prequel game based on Zack, who had next to no characterization in the original FF7, but it seems Murphy's law is always in full effect at Square Enix.

>>4595128
I loved it. The music and graphics were unreal, and the gameplay good simple fun. I never understood the hate.

>>4595173
I found the combat system even more braindead and tedious than the original game.

>>4594652
>he honestly thinks that some Jew from Kiketaku actually understands Japanese

>>4595128
There are parts of Crisis Core I love and parts I hate. The interactions between Cloud, Zack, and Sephiroth and their characterizations are perfect and the gameplay was fairly enjoyable. The repetitive side missions got a bit annoying though and the Genesis/Angeal plot is godawful and down there with XIII as one of the worst stories shat out by the franchise.

>>4595532
Genesis is a complete fucking faggot and some his appearances basically amounted to "And Genesis was there too."

>hay sephiroth u shud go in2 teh nibel basement olololo
Fuck off Genesis.

>>4593415
One Winged Angel
Vincent
Tifa

It was my first JRPG. I remember the first time I played the flashback where Sephiroth is in your party but he's AI controlled, and I attacked the enemy doing ~150 damage. Then Sephiroth attacks and he does like 6,334. I was like "holy shit!!" And his sword was like 10 feet long, what a badass

>>4596278
The game really did do a good job of creating moments where you, the player, are impressed rather than just the characters on screen.
>>4595187
It was pretty darn simple, but I still found the gameplay enjoyable. Then again, I used to be a big MMO guy.

>>4593415
aerith isn't /vr/

>>4593415
I need recs of games that have the same soul/esence of FFVII pls.

>>4596636
Modern games

>>4593415
did they ever release a proper artbook for 7?

>>4593480
>Nanaki
Faggot.

>>4595128
The only thing I hate about crisis core is how they continued the emo-bitchboy Cloud trend. He's not like that in the original game.

>>4596636
https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/final-fantasy-vii/credits

Scroll down to "collaborations"

>>4593415
>aerith
Fix your lisp.

>>4597102
>https://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/final-fantasy-vii/credits

>Blasto

>>4593415
Ff7 expert here. I will give you all the facts.

>best song in the game

Chasing the blacked caped man. Godlike interlude, hook, chorus, everything executes smoothly, repeats smoothly. One of the few tracks that are ff8 quality. That oboe usage is 10/10

>best party member
Vincent

>tifa or aerith
Tifa by a mile. Aerith is a slut

>>4596996
Are you kidding me? He is absolutely a soy boy. Not even Marlene fell for that crap.

>>4593415
Every game designer should be required to play Final Fantasy 7 for 15 minutes. The introduction to this game is phenomenal, one of the best ever created.

>best song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7EVCuK7ZqM

>best party member
Vincent

>tifa or aerith
Cloud dressed as a girl lol


I'm not a big fan of FFVII tbqh
It's very good, a tiny bit overrated, but very good

>>4596996
But he was though. In CC he's the eager young rookie that he was in the original game, the only difference being they made him a little too gay for Zack in CC.

>>4593415
>best song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Ig_VOaoAo
>best party member
Aerith. Her limit breaks weren't just mega-damage attacks.
>tifa or aerith
As a naive romantic youth: Aerith.
After having actual girlfriends: Tifa
Aerith is an eternal ingenue guaranteed to break your heart one way or the other.

I have to admit that after a few years of replaying FF titles, I used to like IX more, but VII is more attractive to me now. Even though I had that phase not too long after 10 was released where I just wanted to be a contrarian and dislike VII because everyone and his mom was masturbating to it.

>>4593415
>>best song in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU

Especially the orchestra version.

>>best party member
This may be a cop-out, but I really identified with Cloud. He starts out thinking he's hot ex-SOLDIER shit, realises that he was just a regular peon and grows to become a hero. Not the one he thought he was, but one in his own right.

>>tifa or aerith
Tifa. Aerith has a great, bubbly personality, and is definitely the platonic love interest, but I like Tifa because she can kick ass, dem boobies, and she also has a caring side for Cloud. Also more of a history with Cloud.

>>4598508
There are a lot of great things about IX but it was really getting bogged down by hardware limitations. The delay between the world map and the battle screen is atrocious. Also the story takes awhile to get moving.

>>4597619
>Every game designer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuWrYiN8RQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmEHOARqag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYnUdg4a17U

It's OK if you enjoy le FFVII but don't try to make the entire industry like it.

>>4598569
I was going to write: "every game designer who plans to include cinematic elements and an RPG-style plot in their game should play the intro to FF7 as one of the best examples of how to do it effectively."
But I figured /vr/ wouldn't need all that extra verbiage to get the point.

>>4593415
I played through this for the first time recently. I bought a bunch of grenades from the item store and just use those and it literally steamrolls every enemy and boss. Most boring game in existence lol. Does it ever get fun?

>>4598612
>I played through this
and by that i mean i got to the part with the boat.

>>4598547
The main theme for FF7 will always be one of the best pieces of game music for me. It's so magical.

>>4598612
First final fantasy game? They've all been stuck on easy mode since FFVI

>>4598547
>This may be a cop-out, but I really identified with Cloud. He starts out thinking he's hot ex-SOLDIER shit, realises that he was just a regular peon and grows to become a hero. Not the one he thought he was, but one in his own right.
yeah i can dig that too

>best song in the game
Any of the melancholic/wistful tracks really, and this has a lot of them. Anxious Heart, Ahead on Our Way, the Main Theme, On That Day Five Years Ago, Holding My Thoughts in My Heart, etc
>best party member
I've always liked Cloud. Deepest characterization obv
>tifa or aerith
Hard to decide. I feel like a main theme of the game is Cloud learning to take care of others and be strong (with Tifa) instead of running from his problems and being taken care of by a surrogate mother character (with Aeris). I like both of them.

>song
On the other side of the mountain. Pretty song that fits many emotions. Also fun to play on acoustic guitar
>party member
When I was a kid it was Cid. I loved that he was a cigarette smoking pilot. Something about him reminded me of my grandfather. Probably his temper.
>tifa or aeris
I always like Tifa more. The childhood connection she had with Cloud was always a better story line than the quick infatuation Aeris and Cloud had. Plus she’s a better party member because she is a great melee fighter once you level her up. Plus tits obvi.

>best song
Depends.
When I was younger it was without a doubt Those Who Fight Further.
Now though? It might be the Shinra theme

>Best party member
I never felt like their attributes really made much of a difference in battle, so I'll just say Yuffie

>Tifa or Aeris
Tough call, Tifa is soft and warm, but Aeris can't say no.
Tifa's probably my first choice.

>>4593415
>>best song in the game
>>best party member
>>tifa or aerith
Oh boi, ff7 fans make me sick. It's like watching a retarded kid enjoying his iphone... its amazing some people can have such a low standard.

>>4593415
>best song not Underneath the Rotting Pizza

>>4599084
>2018
>still not liking anything
>still to lazy to ever do anything about anything

>>4598602
OK, it's just that some people actually think every game should be like that. In fact, I've met them here lol

>>4593468
>Forgotten Capital
My absolute fucking nigger.

>>4593415

>best song in the game

Sandy Badlands

>best party member

Cloud

>tifa or aerith

Cid

>>4598796
I found a classical accoustic guitar version to play, and I kinda figured out how to play it on a violin. I usually like songs in a minor key, and the main theme is en E major (for most of it), and I love how it's not just a happy song like the major key might suggest, but wistful, melancholic, heroic, and giving you the feeling that you're going on a big adventure: Growing up, realising who you are, saving the world. Great shit all way round.

>>4599084
>says that while posting a piece of shit that took a full decade to develop and still ended up being the worst FF of all time

Man I feel bad for FF15 fans and can't even begin to fathom their buyer's remorse, no wonder they have to take out their butthurt on other fans.

>>4599084
Decent bait. I did like FFXV though, so your image misses the mark.

>>4598985
Anxious Hearts is such an amazing track. FF7 really was the perfect storm for me, everything ties together so perfectly, the music, the world design, the atmosphere. Replaying it now for the first time in ages and it's aged wonderfully.