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The great debate

>> No.4588968

Sanwa stick, Seimitsu buttons

>> No.4588983

>>4588963
I remember arguments about this, then the late-2000's fighting game craze died off and nobody cared about subtle differences in arcade sticks anymore.

>> No.4590321

>>4588963
There's next to no difference in use. Tourneyfags all wan Sanwa, but I'd bet they couldn't tell the difference between the two if they didn't know which was which.

Even the Chinese bootleg Sanwa sticks on Amazon are very nearly identical to the real thing.

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4590376

Happ

>> No.4590393 [DELETED] 

>>4590376
b8

>> No.4590395 [DELETED] 

>>4590376
More like IL instead.

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>>4590393
Rebuttal: Your shit's weak

>> No.4590408

>>4590398
If by weak you mean it's possible to actually move the stick because the spring is less than 80lbs, then, yeah.

Arcades should be about precise movement, not wrestling with a heavy but vague, mile-long throw, shitty happ stick. Also battop is trash, too.

You're wrong on all accounts.

>> No.4590418

>>4590398
>>4590376
>>4590408
Happ sticks are fucking terrible.

Go Sanwa or Seimitsu, and if you really like american style sticks, just get a Bat Top for them. Don't listen to that fuck Babbages' Gramps. He'll probably just delete this post anyways.

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>>4590408
Go home to your dual shock

>> No.4590445 [DELETED] 

>>4590419
>has shit taste
>gets mad at other people who don't

Stay BTFO.

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>>4590445
>Can't take baby bantz, no retort
I'll take that as your concession that if short throws, soft springs and "precision" is your goal you're better off diddling a nipple than using any joystick period.

>> No.4590512 [DELETED] 

>>4590509
all these shit talking faggots suck at video games anyway,

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>>4590509
>u don lik happ cuz is hard 2 use
>only other thin is ps2 control

Good job outing yourself as a retard. Just cause everyone has decided to move on from shitty happ parts and you haven't doesn't mean there isn't time to right your wrongs.

Hell, even if you had said something like Crown if you have to have your craptacular 80s style battop stick, I would have given you a pass. But you gave chosen the worst of the worst and you can't accept that every other option is superior. And you're so buttblasted over it that you immediately jump to some retarded non sequitur about dualshocks. Might want to broaden your horizons there, sport.

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>>4590531
Taste is subjective, Assfaggot. I have big American arms and most of my sticks are attached to big American cabinets not a 3 pound plastic box I have to use my button hand to hold down on my lap. I have Japanese sticks too but I honestly prefer the sensation of using a genuine Happ made in the USA when practical (stationary stick). I am presenting an alternative perspective.

>> No.4590554

>>4590545
>getting this mad that no one likes your shit taste.

Fucking trip fags. I swear to god every one of you is retarded.

>> No.4590560

>>4590398
Happ sticks are great if you're a fucking gorilla and treat your hardware like literal shit. Which is why they survived so long in US arcades. But they still managed to get broken by assholes intentionally abusing them. RIP.

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>has years of experience with parts

In the end nothing is the "better" part, but using a bunch of different parts will allow you to find your sweet spot. My personal preference is all Seimitsu, buttons and sticks, but preferably the LS-40 that you don't really see anymore. Seimitsu buttons have a bit of resistance in that you can rest your fingers on top of them without worrying about an unintended input going in. Sanwa buttons are super-sensitive to the point that a slight graze of your fingertip will register an input. It's amazing and very impressive stuff. Not that I have any faults with the Sanwa buttons, but I prefer the Seimitsus.

Also after using a joystick that has a bit of tension (most if not all of Semitsu's joysticks do), going back to a Sanwa JLF feels incredibly wonky and somewhat sloppy. Not talking bad about the stick, but when you start experimenting with various parts, you can really cater to your tastes when it comes to arcade controls. Sometimes certain joysticks are for different scenarios. I prefer the Korean joysticks (Crown make them) for most 3D games, as the rubber tension system they use feels really solid.

>> No.4590598

happ sticks are fine for fighting games, I wouldnt never want to use a shmup stick on a fighting game

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>>4590598
I'm willing to accept this since I'm pretty shit at shmups. The math checks out.

>> No.4590693 [DELETED] 

>>4590545
>MUH MURIKAN PRYDE
>I LOVE EATING SHIT BECUZ ITS MADE IN MUH HOMELANDURRR

this is how you sound. I love your baiting, 7/10

>> No.4590706 [DELETED] 

>>4590693
I drive American cars, too.

>> No.4590714 [DELETED] 

>>4590706
do they still have those? last time I checked all your shit was being manufactured in china, who cares if you've got a handful of amerimonkeys putting them together

>> No.4590720 [DELETED] 

>>4590714
My truck is from the late 90s and my fox is from the early 80s

>> No.4590732 [DELETED] 

>>4590720
Of all of the passable American cars you could have chosen from you picked the worst of the worst. Fox bodies are at the bottom of the heap of Mustangs, which are already at the bottom of the heap of any other car.

Goddamn you're a brainlet. Bad taste in joysticks, bad taste in cars, and bad taste in being a tripfag. It may be time to consider ending it.

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>>4590732
>mfw tripfags getting told left and right

>> No.4590972

I have Sanwa parts in my arcade stick, but I'm kind of thinking of putting in a Seimitsu stick because I've heard they're better for shmups due to having a smaller dead zone? I don't know dick about the difference between Sanwa and Seimitsu though.

>> No.4591005

>>4590972
There's barely any noticeable difference between the two brands in feel. It's not worth the cost of upgrading to go between those two in my opinion.

I build sticks with both and use them pretty interchangeably. I think a better shmup-centric upgrade would be an octo-gate if you don't already have one.

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>>4590732
>bad taste in cars,

Hehe. Dumb Murrifats can't appreciate European engineering.

Their bellies are too big for them to fit in our cars!

>> No.4591030

>>4590972

There's no real world difference in performance. It's just comfort bullshit.

This isn't like the difference between Happ and actual good parts.

>> No.4591072

>>4591005
I play fighters too, I was just looking for a smaller dead zone for more consistent inputs in all games I use my stick for. Basically I wanted smaller stick movements.

>> No.4592851

Are you fucking kidding me, Janny?

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I am not fucking trolling or baiting that I prefer Happ parts and thousands of people agree with me.

This is probably the most egregious pruning of any of my posts ever and you can bet your ass I will constantly reference that apparently it's against board rules to have a non-weeaboo opinion.

Literally wtf.