/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[02-12] Arcane Dimensions 1.70 released for Quake.
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=535

[02-11] Updated flashlight mod: choice of emit location, crouch support, multiplayer
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59429

[02-11] Doom running on an Etch-A-Sketch
https://youtu.be/VnmIXK3PYFw

[02-11] 24for$24 concluded with two entries
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bfc9zhiv5pfq89x/contest_sewer.wad (winner)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pg5q7rinqumzlfx/aaaaaaaaaa.wad (runner-up)

[02-10] QC: Doom Edition released
https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/post/170721544189/

[02-09] Flashlight mod first release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59429

[02-09] Anon map release: "a wad which adds the rarely deadly peng to the game"
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=78836465059929579920

[02-09] Anon map release: The Growth (1024x1024)
https://mega.nz/#!OYhmWaYa!Ij6rkScFNs8cPK4LOFkKj9dte0p9gIbXM1hvNAZBaq0

[02-06] D64:R and Consolation Prize updated
http://kinsie.tumblr.com/post/170570213867/

[02-05] Anon release: indignation.wad, requires GZDoom
https://mega.nz/#!GZ4wxJyY!Z8cXLmltAonIz0IpDc64drBYMKNJk2WQp5mK52kzRCo

[02-05] Someone is testing the limits of SNES Doom
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaxVVSdA_5R01A_172kdDZw

[02-02] Vinesauce Joel's second Doom contest has begun, ends on February 28th
https://contest.vargskelethor.me/

[02-01] Anon shares retro games torrent
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4556754/#4559051

[02-01] The Given released to /idgames with "low detail" version included
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1842836

[02-01] Duke Nukem 3D World Tour removed from Steam due to DMCA issues
https://twitter.com/OnBeforeGone/status/958450503066759168

[02-01] La Tailor Girl 1.40
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1038255#p1038255

[01-31] Hunter's Moon 2.9.5
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=30942

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=== PROTIP ===

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Will Dreadnought ever be Updated?
Something on par with D4T would be great

>>4583274
no.

"I'm surprised the HUD portrait doesn't have clothing damage"

i'm weak

>>4583286
why is she so deliciously thick

>>4583274
only when Term says so
at this rate is a running meme, though it will die since BAMCO will hunt down this once since its hinted that they are doing Primee4
and BAMCO Asia/Singapore doenst know 4 shits about FPS

>>4583289
Because the creator is a lewd shit with good taste.

Is it possible to cycle through multiple weapons with one key in Quake (1) ?

>>4583274
>>4583292
Has Term ever revisited projects before?

What's the most efficient way to learn DECORATE n shieet? That's how the funny cinematic bullshit like 3rd person death animations in various mods are done, right? Is the stuff like glory kills done by replacing the killer and killed characters with a separate animation sprite or what?

>>4583292
their staff involves the one that was making Star Wars 1313, the one star wars game everyone and their mom was looking forward to.

>>4583298
And the the former art director of Obsidian and some guys are doing a full fledged demo of Dark Forces on UE4

>>4583208
>[02-12] Arcane Dimensions 1.70 released for Quake.
wtf are you on about?

>>4583289
cause borgers

Had the great idea of asking this super late and near the thread's limit.
This is my last Scripting question, I don't want to bother you a lot with this.
I want to set the final battle with the Cyberdemon to end when every monster tagged 666 in this room is killed.
Problem is, the monsters tagged with 666 just spawn with the SpawnSpots scripted when Cyber takes damage and as such, the script think there are no 666 monsters yet.

http://www.hatebin.com/rzbzsmfuas

I have tried a lot of things including running the script on Cyber's death, adding a ACS_Execute after the final break;, going "script 23 ENTER" or open treats them like runaway scripts, tagging Cyber with 666, tagging the imps already on the room with 666 and everything failed.

>>4583306
Apparently it's the 1.7.1 version actually

>>4583296
There was a brief mention some time ago that advancements in GZDoom could possibly make Cyberrunner more realized, but that Booster mod he's working on probably isn't too far off the mark. Outside of that booty project which seems to get updates here and there, Term just seems to pack up and move onto the next project once the current one is considered done or put on permanent hiatus.

some short WIP gameplay of my Bloodborne-like mod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6XS0blToo

>>4583371
what happened to hexen souls?

>>4583372
On hold at the moment, hexen souls is kind of a massive, unmanageable mess at the moment, and I hit a brick wall with it a few months back. Hexen Souls was going to be a large campaign with it's own maps and monsters and stuff - perhaps a bit too ambitious.

Bloodborne.zip is a bit more achievable being solely a gameplay mod

>>4583312
I'd help but I'm at work. You're using a loop wrong at the bottom. https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cplusplus/cpp_loop_types.htm seriously man read some programming tutorials, you won't get anywhere without them.

La Tailor Girl is such a great wad. Been playing it with Colorful Hell and D2TWID, and it's been a blast.

>>4583456
ok.

Decided to try out the Duke Nukem 64 TC again after updating eduke32.exe, and now I cannot get to the streets because of the vent refusing to transition when I jump down.

Just great..

Nobody gave a shit to this map, so here's a ultimate spoiler about area reveals: https://youtu.be/a5wRECMcRss

>>4583371
I like the meaty sound fx, and the freeze frames. For a WIP, game feel is already great.

>>4583207
Is there a master list of games that fit Doom/Blood/Quake/Strife/Marathon/DukeNukem style? I was curious if there is a game or two I managed to miss. I have even played shit like NAM to completion and am looking for more.

>>4583547
i doubt it -- i can imagine the contents of such a list being the source of endless argumentation.

>>4583409
Oh believe me, I've tried researching but I'm too dumb for that.
I'm amazed I was able to script the scenes I had in mind so far.

>>4583570
If I remove Quake from the list I think it would fit the title of sprite shooter. But that doesn't bring much up.

I know Quake, Half Life, Unreal, Turok.. etc. They all fit a different sub genre of fps compared to Doom or Duke Nukem. I was just hoping for some more good Doom like games. Essential Doom Clones before we just started calling them FPS games.

A.L.T. is starting to feel like a watered down Going Down

>>4583547
I don't think so? I guess we all could compile one.
I'd say in addition to games you have mentioned:
>Wolf 3D
>Blake Stone
>Rise of the Triad
>Pathways into Darkness
>Serious Sam
>Dark Forces
>Outlaws
>Redneck Rampage
>Doom 64
>Shadow Warrior
>Quake 2
>Quake 2 64 (slightly different from the PC game)
>Turok
>Heretic, Hexen
>Hexen 2
>Descent

Not retro:
>Dusk
>Rogue Shooter
>Tower of Guns
>Nitro Family
>Gun Godz
>Painkiller
>Serious Sam 2 and 3
>Doom 2016
>Cthon

>>4583575
Now you know how I feel when I tell them over and over "I cannot understand scripts. At all."

>>4583596
I would add to retro

>Outlaws
>Alien Trilogy
>Powerslave/Exhumed
>Disruptor
>Chex Quest
>Eradicator - in fps mode
>Necrodome - probably debatable

Not retro
>Strafe

>>4583614
>>4583596
>>4583547
>>4583587
I am going to record these into a list (spreadsheet probably) and see what I can gather. There can't be too many out there... right?

>>4583208
>>4583306
>>4583339

the ride never ends

>>4583614
Retro
>Strife

Am I the only one who thinks Tom Hall was the best mapper at id?

>>4583615
Once we get a mostly finished list, this could go in a pastebin and then we could link to that list in OP of every thread, actually...

>>4583547

I did a list some time ago but it needs depuration, I literally threw anything at it

>>4583629
You know, I'm wondering how frustrating it must've been to be so interested in storytelling and then be surrounded by people who believe that "story in games is like story in porn". No wonder his first game when he quit id was a 30+ hour sci-fi RPG...
Also it seems the whole "Blazkowicz was grandfather of Billy Blaze, who was father of Doomguy" was also his idea.

>>4583640
>"Blazkowicz was grandfather of Billy Blaze, who was father of Doomguy"
this doesn't make any sense, it makes Billy Blaze a generation X'er, and Doomguy a millenial

>>4583638
I think the biggest thing is splitting what fits the idea of Doom clone in comparison to a FPS.

I think Turok, Quake, Serious Sam, etc. Might fit another list along side this one. They have their own specific feel to them. Possibly because the dependency on 3d.

>>4583652
Actually I take this back. The more I think about it the more I think they are much closer to Doom than Half Life or Timesplitters like games.

>>4583547

alien trilogy
alien resurrection (ps1)
aliens vs predator
aliens vs predator 2
blake stone: aliens of gold
blake stone 2: planet strike
one unit whole blood
blood 2: the chosen
catacomb 3d descent
catacomb abyss 3d
catacomb apocalypse
catacomb armageddon
chasm: the rift
chex quest
corridor 7: alien invasion
corridor 8: galactic wars (prototype)
cyclones
daikatana
damage incorporated
defiance
descent 1
descent 2
descent 3
devastation
dirty bomb
domination: episode 1: first contact
the ultimate doom
doom 2: hell on earth
master levels for doom 2
final doom
doom 64 (n64)
duke nukem 3d + gorillion of expansions
erradicator
extreme paintbrawl
fate (demo)
flying heroes
goldeneye (n64)
hacx
half-life
half-life: blue shift
half-life: opposing force
half-life: decay (ps2)
halo?
halo 2?
halo 3???????????
heretic
heretic 2
hexen
hexen 2
hovertank 3d
in pursuit of greed
ken's layrinth
killing time
kingpin: life of crime
legend of the seven paladins
marathon
marathon 2: durandal
marathon infinity
nam
necrodome
no one lives forever
no one lives forever 2

>>4583658

no one lives forever 2: contract jack
outlaws
pathways into darkness
perfect dark (n64)
postal 2?
powerslave(exhumed)
quake
quake: scourge of armagon
quake: disolution of eternity
quake 2
quake 2: the reckoning
quake 2: ground zero
quake 3 arena
quake 3: team arena
realms of the haunting
redneck rampage
redneck rampage: rides again
redneck rampage: suckin' grits on route 66
requiem: avenging angel
rex blade: the apocalypse
rise of the triad
rise of the triad: dark war
rise of the triad: extreme
seed
serious sam: the first encounter
serious sam: the second encounter
serious sam: the next encounter (gcn, ps2)
shadow warrior
shadow warrior: twin dragon
shadow warrior: wanton destruction
shadowcaster
shogo
sin
soldier of fortune
soldier of fortune 2
star trek: elite force
star trek: elite force 2
star trek: klingon honor guard
strife
system shock
system shock 2
trespasser
turok
turok 2
turok 3 (n64)
unreal
unreal: return to na'pali
unreal tournament
will rock
wolfenstein 3d
wolfenstein 3d: spear of destiny
william shatner's tekwar
witchaven
witchaven 2
world war 2: gi
zar
zpc

>>4583659
>>4583658

I take it this is your list? >>4583638

I can see what you mean if so.

>>4583663

yeah, choose your poison

>>4583615
the list of games in the retro games torrent in the news post
https://pastebin.com/K7L8swKu

Battlezone
Castle Master
Cybercon 3
Cyber-Cop
Eye Of The Beholder
Faceball 2000
Hovertank 3D
Midwinter
Mobile Suit Z Gundam - Hot Scramble
Space School Simulator - The Academy
Star Cruiser
Terminator 2029
WaxWorks
Xenocide

Alien Cabal
Bad Toys 3D
Blake Stone
Bloodshot - Battle Frenzy
Bobenstein 3D (Demo)
Catacomb
Corridor 7 + 8
Depth Dwellers
Escape From Monster Manor - A Terrifying Hunt For The Undead
H.U.R.L.
In Extremis
Isle Of The Dead
Ken's Labyrinth
Lethal Tender
Mr. Pibb: The 3D Interactive Game
Nerves Of Steel
Nitemare 3D
Operation Body Count
Pathways Into Darkness
Robocop 3
Super Noah's Ark 3D
Terminal Terror
The Fortress Of Doctor Radiaki
The Terminator - Rampage
Thor's Hammer
Ultima Underworld
William Shatner's Tek War
Wolfenstein

error too many lines

>>4583683
>error too many lines

Alien Trilogy
Alien vs Predator
Alpha Storm
Ashes To Ashes - Feeding The Fires Of War
Assassin 2015
Blood
Cybermage - Darklight Awakening
CyClones
Damage Incorporated
Descent
Disruptor
Doom 64
Duke Nukem 3D
Eradicator
Fate (Demo)
(GZDoom) Action Doom 2
(GZDoom) Blasphemer
(GZDoom) Chex Quest
(GZDoom) Doom
(GZDoom) Final Doom
(GZDoom) FreeDoom
(GZDoom) HacX
(GZDoom) Harmony
(GZDoom) Heretic - Shadow Of The Serpent Riders
(GZDoom) Hexen
(GZDoom) Strife
Immercenary
In Pursuit Of Greed
Jumping Flash!
Kileak - The DNA Imperative
Killing Time
Legend Of The 7 Paladins
Necrodome
Outlaws
PO'ed
Powerslave/Exhumed
Prime Target (Demo)
Quarantine
Quiver
Rebel Moon
Redneck Rampage
Rise Of The Triad
Robotica
Shadow Warrior
Star Wars: Dark Forces
System Shock
Terminator: Future shock + Skynet
The Elder Scrolls
The Hidden Below
The Marathon Trilogy
Witchaven
Wrath Of Earth
Zero Population Count
Zero Tolerance

>>4583547
>>4583587

Can't compete with the lists they threw at you, but I'd say the most related (sprite shooters) are Wolf 3D, Hexen, Heretic, Rise of the Triad, Dark Forces, Shadow Warrior and Necrodome.

Serious Sam and Painkiller have lots of open areas were enemies are thrown at you, ambushes, traps and such.

Descent/Freespace is a complete classic. Very few similar games (only Forsaken comes to mind, and the Terminal Velocity Saga). The Thief saga is pretty good too.

Debatably retro but, have you checked Action Doom?

>>4583686
>>4583683
What exactly do they mean by "wave". I think it seems self explanatory, but there are a lot missing that would fit each wave. Is that just simply because they didn't include it in the torrent?

>>4583707
Can't believe I missed Blood

why

>>4583718
end of e1m8 but with plutonia sky and you have a plasma gun? what are you playing exactly?

>>4583640
Hall put in the "Blazkowicz was the grandfather of Billy Blaze" stuff in Wolf 3d, but the combined Id Software timeline didn't exist till after Doom 3 and the Doom RPG mobile games.

wow the second time my drawing gets featured in the OP

>>4583730
Wait a second. You can't get a plasma before that? At all?

>>4583747
plasma gun isn't found until E2M1 normally. plasma weapons and several powerups were deliberately left out of the shareware episode to make you buy the full version.

>>4583746
good job

>>4581495

>>4583757
Jesus... I just noticed what map that was and now I know why the question I asked could've been answered by myself.

I play so little of regular Doom and Doom 2 I forget their maps.

>>4583746
Draw me a doomgirl, but sexy. I will pay you 10 internets

I feel like playing some DM, or maybe co-op. Does /vr/ have any servers up?

>>4583802
like dis?

>>4583804
God damn. Gimme sum of that!

>>4583730
You're a Doom sage

Anyway, it's A.L.T. by Clan [B0S]

Gimme

NUCLEAR2.WAD
nuclear2.zip (104 KB, 1994-05-30) - Brant M. Sweeny-Katkansky
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=295

this map is a pleasure if you can handle old school confusing layouts and non-obvious routes. you explore an abandoned nuclear power facility, getting frequent glimpses of the main reactor as you navigate tunnels whose lower levels are flooded with radioactive coolant. it helps to find secrets to give radsuits for the necessary damage sector runs, or better, shortcut them completely; indeed there is one secret (out of 15) that must be found to finish the map. hint to avoid a frustrating lock-out: for the four switch column, press the east and south sides before the north and west.

>>4583797
it's an angle you probably wouldn't look from normally (right at the end of the map, immediately before the death teleporter, but looking back) and the sky texture is changed from the usual, so i don't think you should beat yourself up too much for not recognising it instantly.

Thursday Night Survival but /vr/

>>4583815
216 monsters seems like a lot for 1994. So does 15 secrets. I got 11 secrets and 206 before IDBEHOLDing the last four. I didn't dawn on me until it was too late what you meant by "the four switch column".

you used me for LAND DEVELOPMENT.

>>4583612
>Now you know how I feel when I tell them over and over
i have no clue who you are

>Samsara + Colorfull Hell
>Turn on Fireblue/Grey monsters
>Pick BJ
>Still made it this far

>>4583885
sorry, i guess i should have taken a picture of it! oh well.

You guys ever played this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom:_The_Boardgame

>>4583207
how do i grab enemies in brutal doom?

>>4583916
stand behind the monster and press the power button on your PC. you might have to hold it down for a few seconds. it's a really strange interface, i know. no idea why he implemented it that way.

>>4583926
I take this board hates brutal doom?

>>4583916
no i'm kidding i think you just press Use on them

>>4583929
no i was joking, i think you just press Use on them.

now the girl is more enjoyable

>>4583929
Yes, with a passion.

Reposting my question for the new thread - is there a way to make just one monster or monster type to be able to telefrag, rather than all the monsters in a map?

>>4583957
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_flags#TELESTOMP

>>4583952
Yeah, I was about to ask where this distain of Brutal Doom came from. Is it because of how it clutters the gameplay? A feeling that it is too over the top? Because of how popular it is? I'm genuinely curious and can see why many reasons people can dislike it and would like to know the specifics.

>>4583978
read the archives, it's less than a month since this question was last asked/answered.

>>4583978
All of those reasons apply. Also the creator is a bit of a dick.

>>4583978
yes and a variety of other reasons that have been detailed time and time and time and time again

ultimately it just boils down to >opinions and you shouldn't care and play what you want and dislike what you want

>>4583908
yes

>>4583929
Brutal Doom has a REALLY annoying fanbase, and a really annoying creator. It pretty much breeds toxicity.

It's not a bad mod objectively speaking if you take it as just that - just another mod, one of thousands. When people try to claim it's best mod ever, or better than vanilla Doom, or they come into this thread to stan for Mark - that's where the issues start.

>>4583986
>It's not a bad mod objectively speaking if you take it as just that
Actually it became a straight up bad mod when Mark added the "random map decoration" feature which leads to hilarious situations like objects blocking the exit and making the map unwinnable.

>>4583978
I actually like BD because of it changes enough while keeping Doom still Doom. It helps that it is over the top to a campy level also. Makes COOP fun and interesting.

I don't like the creator at all and think others should just take his place. I would even pay others to take his place (patreon type deal).

>>4583904
My bad. I wasn't really thinking. It was a nice map tho, specially for 1994.

>>4583986
The fanbase is no more ore less annoying than pretty much every other fanbase.

>>4583982
Jesus christ, what IS with this guy? It's like every month I learn something new about what asshole thing this guy has done.

Also what's his issue with Brutality? Shouldn't be he flattered that his mod got so popular that people are making forks of it?

>>4583990
It can be disabled tho. At this point it's a good mod that is stupidly mismanaged.

I understand why some BD fans created Project Brutality, Mark is the weakest part of Brutal Doom. Instead of concentrating on making gameplay more gory hardcore fun that is the REASON why the mod was popular, adding more executions, better balance or more guns, he wastes his time on shit like that.

>>4583908
I haven't, but I'm interested. Apparently there is a new version for release of Doom 4.

Also, I find it somewhat ironic that Doom boardgame is a cross between a dungeon crawler and Space Hulk.

>>4583974
Thanks. Was hoping there was a way without making a new type of the monster, but oh well.

>>4583998
on the other hand there are plenty of wads that crash the game on purpose or trigger a terry trap whenever you load it with brutal doom

>>4584035
such as?

>>4584035
making the starting weapon shoot gibs =! terryshit

>>4583340
>There was a brief mention some time ago that advancements in GZDoom could possibly make Cyberrunner more realized, but that Booster mod he's working on probably isn't too far off the mark.

Yeah, pretty much exactly that. Booster is pretty much a straight-up reboot of Cyberrunner.
It's got an actual theme, more sensible coding rather than zanhax out the ass, doesn't break the engine, the abilities are more intuitive to use, can be played on normal mapsets instead of requiring super-specialized maps, etc.

>>4583456

Yeah, La Tailor Girl is pretty fun. Swapping outfits for different gameplay effects on the fly is really, really cool.

>>4584038
Playing Demonsteele with Brutal Doom will have a bunch of invincible revenants hound your ass.

I've been gone for a couple of months, did I miss anything good?

Also, I recently started playing Quake 1 again via Quakespasm and suddenly have an issue with Ranger randomly looking straight up every now and then. I remember someone here a while back had this problem too. What gives? It was fine a few months back.

>>4584069
>I've been gone for a couple of months, did I miss anything good?
>post-EoC Runescape
>anything good ever
no.

>>4583295
Possibly, although it's kind of janky and requires setting up multiple aliases (and having the weapons). It's easier to just rebind the various weapons closer to WASD and/or set up a bind to always choose the best kind of weapon (i.e. using the same key for NG and SNG).

>>4584071
What does RS have to do with what he asked

>>4584069
The Quake Champions mod for Doom, maybe?

>>4584071
Whoops wrong thread.

>>4584063
that is neither a terrytrap nor a crash

that is the most harmless thing

>>4584038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CD_cjlIXKI

>>4584035
Yeah, but I want you to understand - fans of PB are invariably fans of Brutal Doom. Brutality was created by BD fans for BD fans, and Mark hates this for some reason?

Imagine if new version of Back to Saturn X crashed if you tried to load it with ProDoomer-BTSX weaponset.
Or if Complex Doom intentionally crashed when you tried to load it with Complex Doom Legendary Creatures addon.

It's pissing on HIS OWN fans who try to modify his mod.

>>4584103
That one is revenge by H-Doomguy for being uncredited by Markymark.

mike wazowski

>>4584103
Why would you even play a bloodless mod about bonking demon girls with Brutal Doom? White splatters all over the walls?

>>4584097
They also attack you.

>>4584115
it's cool to draw stuff but it's not very interesting to post basically the same drawings over and over again

>>4584069
>Also, I recently started playing Quake 1 again via Quakespasm and suddenly have an issue with Ranger randomly looking straight up every now and then. I remember someone here a while back had this problem too. What gives? It was fine a few months back.
If you have a joypad plugged in, unplug it before playing, QS doesn't tell you but it'll automatically use both joypad and KB+M so if something's nudging the joypad's analog stick (i.e. falling off your desk) it'll fuck with your view. Sounds stupid but I had the same shit happen to me.

Also make sure you're using the latest version of QS (0.93 is the stable release), and that you're using the standard quakespasm.exe; since a few versions ago, the normal exe uses SDL2 (which is what you want) and qs-sdl.exe is the one using legacy SDL1.whatever (which is not what you want), the opposite of how it was in older builds.

>>4584125
Fuck off.

>>4584125
I don't think it's fair to compare one of the purest people on these threads to a fencewalking jackass like VimHomeless.

>>4584117
Red and white splatters on the wall. Alternate Universe H-Doomguy fucks demons to death.

>>4584124
I mean, you can iddqd and console kill them, and then play like normal, right?

>>4584106
>Imagine if new version of Back to Saturn X crashed if you tried to load it with ProDoomer-BTSX weaponset.
this analogy only works if you modify it to add "after btsx was repeatedly accused of stealing prodoomer features which were actually btsx-original features that prodoomer lifted from a limited release test version"

>>4584125
Oh, shut up, who cares? We're all here to have fun.

working on pistol replacement in dakka, because I really don't like the dual pistol/single pistol split that currently exists
>>>/wsg/2105362

>>4584143
How the fuck do you 'steal features'? Jesus christ, thats the most insane thing I have ever heard. They're features! Nobody fucking owns them! If I put berserk executions into my mod is Mark gonna hire a hitman on my ass? That's fucking bonkers!
That's motherfucking preposterous!

Jesus fucking christ.

Unless the idea is that Brutality team claimed that these features they implemented were their original inventions, in which case - pot called the kettle black, dude, Mark did the exact same shit to other mods and even games many times (remember when he claimed Glory Kills in D44m were inspired by Brutal Doom, rather than more likely idea that they were an industry standard since Gears of War?)

The only people worse than SGT Mark are the inferior beings that get in his way

>>4584160
That looks cool!

>>4584170
Personally I'm a bit flattered whenever someone steals my code, but it hasn't happened for Doom yet.

>>4583312
>>4583575
http://www.hatebin.com/kdudwegqsu

>>4584170
>>4584181
Oh, they stole the code without crediting? Okay, that sucks.

But again, I wonder who taught BD fans that this kinda behaviour was okay, hmm.... Hoist by his own petard much?

>>4584182
Wait shit don't use that

>>4584170
>How the fuck do you 'steal features'?
you release with them first. then people think you invented it, when you in fact just took the code from somewhere else.
i think it's polite to wait until your upstream has officially (not alpha, not beta) released a feature before you copy it into your fork.

>>4584185
too late.

>>4583312
>>4583575
http://www.hatebin.com/iigpaqjrgs
in english
>while there are more than 0 things alive or existing on the map with id 666
>>wait 35 tics (1 second)
this will continue looping until there are 0 or less things with id 666, then we
>print the message and exit the script

>>4584160
Looks rad. Reminds me of Serious Sam.
And sorry to ask, but I've seen that hud around lately and I feel like I'm missing something. What wad?

>>4584184
It happens to me a bit in other modding communities. I don't really give a shit, if I didn't want people to use my code I'd obfuscate it or mod for something which requires code encryption or compilation. Even in my readmes I just say that if you're going to use my code it would be nice if you put my name in your credits list, but I'm not going to go all "MUH PERMISHUNS" over it. Restricting creativity just to please your own ego is the exact opposite of what an artist (read: modder) should do.

>>4584170
ask any brutal doom fan and they'll tell you mark invented jumping and freelook and added them to doom. that's how you steal features: good marketing.

>>4584124
they do the slowest fucking melee ever that will not hit you even if you constantly move at walk speed

they were even included as a normal feature (the "oh fuck, skeletons" cvar)

this is neither a terry trap nor a crash, it's hardly malicious in any way

>>4584193
dakka, like the post says.

>>4584195
This never made fucking sense to me: you have to fiddle with options for jumping and vertical mouse movement.

>the super shotgun with the attack rate of the chaingun

>>4584195
Didn't Total Biscuit say that BD is the one that added freelook and shit to Doom?

>>4584212
You know what?
I was under the impression internet celebreties are some to take credit for Brutal Doom's ridiculous popularity.

>>4584212
TotalBiscuit, I don't think so. Does TB even care about classic Doom?

>>4584214
How many e-celebs are deep into the Doom community though? Just a few and TB is the deepest one I know of and even he has faulty knowledge on who invented what in the zDoom community.

>>4584215
He made a video about Brutal Doom.

>>4584214
E-celebs can affect the general opinion or knowledge of something to the point any conflicting information is drowned out by regurgitated memes and disinfo.

>>4584182
>>4584187
>>4584189

Sadly I already tried something similar anon and it didn't work.
The monsters aren't present when this scenario starts, they appear as the Cyber takes 1000 damage. As such the message appears inmediately.

My idea is to lower a floor blocking the exit when the Cyberdemon and all the demons tagged 666 that appeared with SpawnSpot are dead. I don't know if this is possible to script or if I'm expecting a lot from Doom scripts.
Here's my level for reference if you want to see what I want to do, I moved the starting point just before the cutscene so just IDKFA yourself for an easy fight.
https://my.mixtape.moe/lsqfxu.wad

>>4584208
you mean eweps.wad servers?

>>4584198
>>4584142
>>4584124
>>4584097
>>4584063
>>4584038
>>4584035
I decided to load it up to check.

Yeah, golden revenants pop up, but it seems like I'm invincible (I did a check and apparently I have buddha and 999 HP?) so they are not even an issue. Who would get upset over this?

>>4584231

You'd be surprised.
I've gotten a lot of grief over the years for that, most of which only encourages me to do it again.

you don't even believe in Jesus Why you got a Jesus piece

>>4584224
http://www.hatebin.com/nrdiqvdyvf

Here's a screenshot of map03 from my HD maps project. There's a couple chaingunner nests on the other side of the fence. I'm not entirely sure as to what the objective should be in this level. The monster randomization system sometimes places turrets instead of chaingunners as well, so I'll have to open it up in SLADE to make it all uniform.

>>4584224
>>4584235
Actually, since you gave the wad, gimme a sec an I'll see if I can figure it out.

>>4584215
But that's the point, they DON'T care about classic Doom. If they did, they'd know about jumping and freelook.

But instead all e-celebs and gaym jurnalizts who haven't played Doom in decades, or EVER, suddenly raced each other to make a video about BD because it's VIRAL! So each of them had no fucking idea about Doom but decided to talk about it, and Brutal Doom was their first exposure to the game in years.

So no wonder they genuinely thought all that shit because they didn't know better (because are they gonna fact check stuff like REAL journalists? Pfff. Sure.)

>>4584235
>>4584248
You saved my map with that (but sure, see the script in my wad, the exit is untextured but it's supposed to lower when everything in the arena is dead)

This still means for the extremely rare case the player kills all the reinforcements BEFORE the Cyberdemon the exit will still reveal itself since we're only affecting the monsters tagged 666 (I had to give Cybby a tag of 35 for camera and other scripting purposes)

I have a theory: in the script 21 I could set its tag to 666 too now that the final reinforcements are present.

The fight is designed so Cybby always dies first tho. He never was too difficult so at least I can make this fight amusing with all the infighting.

>>4584234
Okay, that's actually kinda funny take on that whole situation. BJ is like "My Jewish ass isn't gonna get killed over this X-ian shit!"

>>4584250
Let me fix that up too then, Cyberdemon is the only with with TID 35 right? and he starts with it?

>>4584253
Yeah, I had to tag him 35 so the camera knows what to focus on.
The script you gave me in >>4584235 worked perfectly even if it only affected the newly spawned monsters so in the meantime I'll try my theory in >>4584250. It'd be a shame if the cheesed the fight by leaving something alive.

Also, since there're special scripts specific for him when his HP lowers to certain ammounts, if he also had the tag 666 nothing would happen (already tried it to put him on the same level as the reinforcements)

>>4584242
Here's a screenshot of map02. The lighting is set to 112, but I might set it even lower.

>>4584242
Are you sure that you that you can't place HD specific enemies in the map?
I mean, the firing range map has non-randomized weapon spawns, shouldn't it work with enemies if you placed them the same way?

>>4584260
I'm encountering an error where there are still 6 things tagged 666 left over after the boss fight, but I think I can fix it.

>>4584268
I'm using Eureka because lol Linux, and can only place standard doom enemies. It's kind of like my last attempt at creating a mapset for a gameplay .wad. Developers need to stop making these randomspawners that spawn totally unfitting entities, such as turrets or giant scorpions.

>>4583208
>>4583051

>>4584253
>>4584260

Yeah, seems like adding Thing_ChangeTID(35,666);
before the ACS_NamedExecute you gave me does the trick to lower the floor once everything.

>>4584271
I know what that is, those are the boxes of shells that also spawn.
I mistakenly gave them the 666 tag too. I made some changes so just the monsters get tagged with that.
So right now my final script is looking like this: http://www.hatebin.com/wrfnqnnvmk

>>4584249
>Brutal Doom was their first exposure to the game in years
precisely. things tend to get credited to the first place where you see them. so PB takes unreleased BD21 features, players see them, believe they come from PB (not knowing better), try BD21, find it has the same features, say "hey BD21 is stealing features from PB" which sufficiently repeated becomes truth.

>>4583297
zdoom acs wiki, but that's not gonna 'teach' you if you know absolutely nothing

>>4584278
Yeah I just noticed that, also you don't have to change the cyberdemon's ID but if it works go for it. I was just checking for 666 and 35 before allowing the final script to continue.

>>4584291
Thanks anon, you saved my final battle.
Now I'm thinking if I should make the ending a cutscene too or to just make the player manually go to it but at least scripting it won't be a problem now since I know that much at least.
The ending shows the doomguy walking down a hallway full of dormant monsters who are just "letting him go".

I guess just giving player control won't make it such a drag, the last thing the typical Doom player wants is to wait.

>>4584301
No problem man, and again, do programming tutorials. Nobody is "too stupid" to learn the basics, just sit down and dedicate a weekend to it.

>>4584301
>the last thing the typical Doom player wants is to wait.
haha so true, i've often run the long way around a map just to avoid waiting for a lift to come down. even if it's faster overall to wait for the lift.

>>4584275
Oh shit, that's neat!

>>4584275
>>4584308
Oh wait that was back in 2016, I thought Anon was posting it as news, shieeet.

i think this wad is trying to tell me something

>>4584035
Yeah, because given that gameplay mods are designed to replace actors, and if both Brutal Doom and another mod replace the same actors, shit won't actually work, then there's no point in doing it, especially of both mods are replacing everything.

Brutal kiddies would constantly complain that whatever mod was made (or map, for that matter), wasn't compatible with Brutal Doom and demand it was fixed, and they'd be really obnoxious about it.
If you aren't a retard, you wouldn't be trying to run two overhaul mods at the same time, so it wouldn't be a real problem to you.

>>4584324
>hi I'm the author of this was naruske1999 and I'm 14 years old

>>4584324
>clean sector text
I feel disgusted as a purveyor and implementator of sector text.

>>4584306
>Nobody is "too stupid" to learn the basics, just sit down and dedicate a weekend to it.
Keep thinking that and we'll never progress as a community.

>>4584329
Go get triggered in your hubox, alt-SJW.

>>4584343
>making jokes about edgy teens is political now
Fuck's sake man chill the hell out.

>>4584338
Please explain your reasoning, I cannot follow it. You appear to be saying progress is impossible unless people refuse to learn.

>>4584343
if god weren't dead why would he be in heaven where dead people go? checkmate, atheists

don't respond or engage

>>4584232
I have an idea for a new way to do it in future works.

It's just one skeleton, a tiny laughing one, but he noclips and jumps, he doesn't do damage, but instead, every hit he does to you makes you experience something like Shrooms Mode from Rise Of The Triad (assuming it's possible to replicate), along with a stock sound effect of a laughing audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBGJ7z-5E4

>>4584345
Oh, if you weren't doing it in a political sense, then it's okay.

Silly edginess like that is fine with Doom as well. It's a good question to ask if Heaven exists in Doom. Why would Hell exist but not Heaven? Or maybe it's just obscured lore, maybe all Id games happen in same setting and Hell is just the most powerful and ruthless empire out there.

>>4584343
>have digitigrade hooves but have boots

>>4584142
Not exactly, you see, brutal doom has an absolute fucking mess of code. And this code will conflict with a ton of shit if you try to load another mod. I mean, putting two gameplay mods together will fuck up the game, but nowhere near the magnitude that brutal doom does. The reason why modmakers put anti-brutal technology is because it is easier to report, and it drives away the brutal doomers. If the modmakers had not included anti brutal technology, the brutal doomers would have gone and and asked for a compatibility patch. If you read the above, you can see why nobody is going to bother doing that. And the brutal doomers will constantly nag, whine, and get in fights until you do the impossible and combine spaghetti code with lasagna code.

>>4584361
Or perhaps they are Doomguy's?

I have no idea what I'm doing and progressing through this wad requires path discovering akin to finding secrets

>>4584348
Not everybody's brain is wired the same. There ARE tasks that are completely impossible to some. It's not a "refusal" and more a complete inability. Don't buy into the old notion that "anybody can do anything if you put your mind to it!" when that has no grounding in reality and is instead just some bullshit agenda pushed by the media for countless years. It would be like trying to play baseball with a quadruple amputee. It just doesn't work.

>>4584371
what would Doomguy be living there with a DEMON? Doomguy fights the DMONS

>>4584374
Sounds like a great rationalization for never actually bothering to learn anything. By the way, people with the drive to succeed will do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNigfPv1yB8

>>4584376
forbidden love...

>>4584383
>what are mental diseases and disabilities.
No analogy is perfect, anon. It's not "not bothering" if they CAN'T learn anything.

>>4584383
furthermore that's basketball, not baseball

>>4584391
>>4584397
>b-b-but it's different when it's me
>b-b-b-but that's not the EXACT thing I was talking about so it doesn't c-count
Fuck's sake.

>>4584402
It absolutely doesn't count. You only need to have an upward thrust to throw a basket into a bin. That's not even fucking incredible in any way. Now put that fucker in a serious game and watch how he's fucking trampled over.

>>4584391
>>4584374
>>4584338
I fucking hate people like you. You're the kind of person who will think of any excuse to get out of learning anything and then blame other people for your failings.

Yes, you can. You just would rather bitch out and whimper about how it's just not possible for you.

>>4584405
Someone never watched Air Bud

>>4584405
>You only need to have an upward thrust to throw a basket into a bin.
and you only need a forward thrust to throw a ball at a glove

>>4584406
God, whatever Mulder. Keep believing the bullshit the global elite feed you.

>>4584338
>>4584374
>>4584391
>>4584405
>>4584412
hey s'arais

>>4584410
You're completely missing the point.
You cannot throw the baseball without a hand.
You cannot catch the ball without a hand
You cannot hit the bat without a hand.
You cannot code if your brain immediately goes to an effectual DDOS whenever you look at it or any form of math whatsoever.

>>4583895
obviously it's the the guy who tells them "I cannot understand scripts. At all." over and over

Whomst fucking idea was it to put a pain elemental in the psx version of hangar in the armor secret on UV

>>4584414
>You cannot code if your brain immediately goes to an effectual DDOS whenever you look at it or any form of math whatsoever.

I flunked out of math in school and I'm still coding things perfectly fine.
Oh, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm9vkDXIHJ4

>STURM, AZ

What does it mean?

Also this is a big open map with no monsters so I'm scared.

>>4584421
Now put that fucker in a serious game and watch how he's fucking trampled over.

>>4584424
>no monsters
>355 monsters
That's plenty of monsters

>>4584426

Good thing coding for Doom isn't a competition, huh?
Stop making excuses.

>>4584429
Not an argument. Grow up.

the real people at fault are those who chose to coddle someone who clearly has no interest in improving in the first place.

the real people at fault are those who think the world's peachy keen because their parents sheltered them from the truth: people get the short end of the gene stick all the time.

>>4584435
Oh look, (((he))) hijacked a post. Again.

>>4584430

Neither is your retarded baseball analogy, which has been crushed under dust while you refuse to address the original points.
I flunked out of math in school and I'm still coding things. I have no knowledge of coding whatsoever and I'm still making things. I can't map, I can't draw, I can't code, and yet I'm still making things for Doom.
You, on the other hand, are wasting your time making excuses about how you can't, blaming the world and everyone else for YOUR own failures. And so you'll never amount to anything because you'd rather take the easy route rather than apply some self-improvement.

Get the fuck outta here.

>>4584438
>can't map, I can't draw, I can't code, and yet I'm still making things for Doom.
So you're a bad liar?

Guys, shut the fuck up and talk about something less controversial like haev you ever thought any if the id protagonists was cute?

I think this is just one dude trolling now, if people want to believe they're incapable retards just let them

i think >>4584438
is all that needs to be said.

>>4584439

Nah, I'm just willing to accept my limitations and push them a little further each time.
If you hate me for it, that's all on you.

>>4584442
>I think this is just one dude trolling now
s'arais has always done this, he never takes responsibility and blames everyone else. it's always the doominati, or 4chan, or everyone else being SO MEAN to poor little him

>>4584376
>spend possibly eons just fighting demons
>practically a supernatural avenger, stuff of mythology
>expecting one to be able to get excited by a meek human woman after all that baggage
>only thing reminscient of a human and capable of rivaling your power is demon like Baron of Hell
It's only natural, anon.

He better be gone for good this time.

>>4584428
But I haven't seen them yet and I don't know where they all are!

>>4584450
he'll come back. he refuses to leave. thinks he's "protecting us" from karma or something.
probably will come back with an extremely thinly-veiled whine about censorship or the doominati or something.

>>4584453
That's honestly the worst, because you know the map author is going to dump at least 1/3rd of them on you in some giant hellish ambush but you have no idea when.

>>4583640
>Also it seems the whole...Billy Blaze, who was father of Doomguy" was also his (Tom Hall) idea.

No. Excuse my french but fuck that shit, let's not even give that thing a chance to live.

That was the assumption of some dumb motherfucker with poor reading comprehension who replied to Tom Hall's tweet where he confirmed that Blazkowicz was Keen's grandfather. This is a relationship that has been present ever since the release of an official strategy guide for Wolfenstein 3-D back in the 90s.

It was never assumed (up until very recently) that Keen is/was Doomguy's father.

Keen is assumed to be an 8-year old kid during the events of the first game, which were assumed to occur in the time of the release of the game (1990). The events of Doom (1993) have been assumed to occur at a pretty distant time from ours, maybe 200-300 years later.

Like someone said already, for Keen to be Doomguy's father:

-Doomguy should/must have been born around 2005-2010
-Keen should have retained (or perhaps increased) his level of intelligence during his adulthood in order for humanity to make the jump to Mars and colonize both Deimos and Phobos and start dabbling with inter-dimensional teleportation.

Which is something reaaally hard to believe, even for a videogame. Basically you're asking me to assume that Keen's the founder of the UAC, and Keen genuinely the goodest and purest boy on Earth for him to found the company that ultimately dooms (huhuh) this planet

(Cont. 1/2)

>>4584454
I hope someone sees that he's gone for good.

I really wish he went through with that suicide. What a fucking manipulative shithead of a "human" being. He won't be mourned and he'll fade into nothing more than a distant memory. With luck his tomb will be unmarked too.

OH HELL

also the background music is a midi version of head like a Hole from NIN

>>4584457

(Cont. 2/2)

The mobile games released last decade were the first ones that attempted to interconnect id software's first three major games (Keen, Wolf, Doom) by having one of the protagonists of the second Doom RPG mobile game named "Stan Blazkowicz", which is not just a direct reference to B.J. Blazkowicz, but also plays an important role in later sections of the game, as a very familiar demon from Hell makes references to events from Wolfenstein's own mobile game that was also released during that time, hinting that this Stan Blazkowicz character is a very distant descendant of B.J.'s family. Oh, and that character wears a space marine uniform strikingly similar to Doomguy's, as you can see in this very picture

This timeline that connects B.J./Keen/Doomguy has been "officially" applied to the mobile games that were released by id software's mobile team at the time, which was lead by none other than John Carmack, who wanted to dabble with Java mobile programming because Carmacks gonna Carmack.

This timeline has been somewhat adopted by many members of this community as "official" and the way gaming websites picked up the relationship between Blazko, Keen and Doomguy recently might as well be the foundation for modern id software to apply it in the current "canon". To those that despised Doom Slayer's Lore item choice a few months ago, feel free to take this as a warning message.

Also, ACTUAL QUAKE CHAMPIONS SPOILERS: Dataminers found references to a "Keen" skin/player in the game's data. Keen's coming back, motherfuckers.

Do you have and "do and don't" rules for when you make or hide secret areas? And what are some ways to make more interesting secrets, whether it be hiding switches, walking through fake walls, or some abstract puzzle? Are there any particular secrets that stand out to you from any official or community maps?

A secret is revealed!

>>4584462

It'd be cool if Keen actually is coming back, but it's more likely to be bait for dataminers.
Injustice 2 had files for Shaggy and Scooby-Doo, for example.

>>4584462
Keen better be added and not turned into an adult, because that would be just anti fun
Nobody cared about his gritty death in Doom 2

>>4584463

Shootable switches that reveal hidden secrets? Don't do that shit. Especially if those secrets also have basic equipment that is somehow useful in very early sections of the map.

For example, Hell Ground. I love Hell Ground, but I found the first secret of the last map a bit insulting.

Also, you gotta reward those players who think outside the box, don't ever punish the player if he finds a secret area by making him waste all the ammo/health he gained by spawning additional demons.

Did you forget?

I'M INVINCIBLE!
[OBNOXIOUS MUSIC BLARES]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5663zfayc790kxd/2018-02-11%2019-53-25.flv?dl=0

>>4584463
Closet secrets(that is, 64x64 rooms) always have a former human-type enemy in them, because I find it funny.

Incoming raid
Get your reports ready

>>4584486
Lol.
A raid from where?

>>4584460
Oh hey it's A.L.T.
>weird sound replacements like Lost Souls that make squealing pig sounds

>>4584486
>>4584489
https://discord.gg/WhZqpae

>>4584496
NYPA

>>4584496
What the fuck does S'Arais have to do with /vr/Doom?

>>4584496
So much for the map he was posting about.

>>4584496
what the fuck?

Is this real?

>>4584496
uh oh, he's angery now

>>4584496
I think you people who keep bringing this faggot up are doing it on purpose. Honestly, he deserves to be placed into the closet secret with the gay shotgun guy and forgotten about.

>>4584459
Who are you guys talking about exactly?

>>4584506
>>4584496
>>4584486
lmao when you attempt to raid but it backfires on you like the kiddie you are

Sorry if this is a newbish question

But is there any reason to use GZDoom over Zandronum, as my main singleplayer Doom source port?

>>4584507
This. Namedropping him constantly has NEVER helped, if anything it brings bad memories of 2013 /sthg/ and the constant artist drama, back and forth name calling and LEGITIMATE attempts at avoiding ANY discussion of the series itself.

>>4584512

GZDoom has more features, Zandronum has netplay.

>>4584515
i don't namedrop him. he makes himself known.
and that's the problem, it has to be about him.
except when it's bad, then it's someone else.

and he HAS
to let
people
know

>>4584512
GZDoom has a lot more moddability.

>>4584512
more features and all thoes fuckin gameplay mods
i mean you could use zan for sp if you don't really care but there'd be no reason to over gzdoom

>>4584512
Greater mod support I guess? Depends on what mood Graf is in on any given day.
>>4584515
I posted my (shitty) idea for a mod last thread and it got immediately derailed by someone saying it's somehow similar to some shit this guy came up with. I wonder if he's the one that does it.

>>4584521
And you fucks keep acknowledging him. You're part of the problem.

>>4584529
so what do we do? we had a discussion about people who don't learn anything.

now out of a sudden, s'arais reveals it's him and tries to stage a faux raid

>>4584530
Gee, I wonder how to deal with repeat offender shitposters...

>>4584534
okay, so how was i supposed to know it was s'arais beforehand so as to know not reply

>>4584374
You didn't answer the question.

How does the existence of some unfortunate souls, for whom mapping or coding is impossible, can prevent the rest of the community from making progress?

I mean sure those people have my sympathies but it's not like there is nobody who can map or code. Plenty of people churn out maps and mods all the time.

>>4584530
At least I have a reason to post this now.

>>4584545
Don't reply to posts that are 0% Classic Shooter related.

>>4584372
That sounds like someone doesn't understand what is good level design.

In general: if you have a puzzle in your level, make it extremely clear to the player that it's a puzzle. This goes DOUBLE if the puzzle is about finding something including finding a path forward. I don't care how you do it, if you literally plop text on screen "gee, I gotta look for the other way!", or by adding an objective display to the game, idgaf - if player is asking themselves "what the hell do I do now?" you failed as a designer.

Inb4 mazes - mazes don't count because they're clearly mazes, and the objective is clearly finding the exit from the maze. Problem is when this shit is pulled in the context where it ISN'T clear what you're supposed to do next. That's just bad design.

>>4584548
i hope 40oz will give me feedback someday

>>4583286
Would it be possible to have a behind view on the hud? I prefer playing in First Person but like having the view of the character Third Person gives me.

>>4584457
>>4584462
Jesus christ, I'm sorry.
I didn't know there were people who cared about Doom lore.

>>4584556

Doom lore is terribly interesting to me, it reminds me a lot of Capcom lore.
Interesting worldbuilding, but the actual writing itself is completely ignorable.

>>4584496
Who's this kid?

>>4584565
notorious shitter, don't reply or acknowledge.

>>4584565
just use an archive

>>4584506
>>4584496
moar

red green is an aesthetic

>>4584580
christmas.

>>4584580

Sweet Christmas. It's always something.

>>4584463
Do:
>Hint at the secret in someway; misaligned or slightly out-of-place texture, a hint in the map geometry, use objects to allude to a secret door, a shoot switch that you obviously can't reach with an enemy in front of it, etc.
>Make it a worthwhile secret for the effort required; ammo or HP for a hidden closet, a megasphere if there's enemies to kill, or a new weapon gained early if it's well hidden
>(Minor) Change the rewards by difficulty; easy might have a lot of ammo, medium might have medikits, hard might have a soul sphere, etc.
>Make some secrets that act as exclusive sections of the map, act as alternate paths, or anything that makes it more than just a closet
>Avoid using repeating secrets; ie, using the same trick over and over or making every secret a misaligned texture closet for some ammo
Don't:
>Hide a secret behind a standard look-alike texture without any hinting, unless it's opened by a switch elsewhere or a secret exit
>Make the reward invalidated by the challenge; giving the player a new rocket launcher and lots of rockets to fight a couple of enemies is fine, but don't toss a soul sphere and some ammo at a player and then spawn in 30 enemies to fight; an exception to this is if the secret area is a large independent section of the map, where the "reward" is the area itself (or 100% K/S) rather than upgrades
>Use shoot triggers that are just wall textures right in front of you without any indication that you should shoot them
>Mark a hallway as a secret sector and then divide it into smaller sectors to make a rising set of stairs without forgetting to remove the secret sector tag from them A SECRET-A SECRET-A SECRET-A SECRET IS REVEALED!
That's all I can think of.

>>4584580
that looks cool, is it going to need a zdoom to run though?

>>4584548
i find that forum's theme so hard to read, small dark orange text on a black background, i must be getting old

>>4584575
he just banned someone for saying this was petty as fuck after posting this too
before all this he went on a prolonged delusional rant about the "doominati" as if anyone gives a shit, I don't even use these threads normally but him pinging the whole server for his personal army bs is obnoxious

>>4584602
Nah, it's bad graphic design, low contrast between bg and font.

>>4584605
>before all this he went on a prolonged delusional rant about the "doominati" as if anyone gives a shit
post it
i gotta read this shit

>>4584605
mfw he still hasn't banned the right one

>>4584620
i agree, please post it, also for the collection.

>>4584605
>post what i want on this forum or i'll ban you!

>>4584593
I like timed "uncover the secret switch, hit the switch, find the raising/lowering platform/door/whatever" secrets

>>4584620
>>4584620
>>4584624
>>4584625
>>4584626
too long to get the whole thing as a screencap so here's a pastebin https://pastebin.com/7JxxtZgE

>>4584605
Petty as fuck? Try stupid as fuck. Raids need to somehow inconvenience people in some way. Just asking people to spam a phrase is what twitch streamers do to others streamers *who are their friends as a friendly joke*.

>>4584386
4bibdden lov...........

>>4584631
I was just quoting what the guy said, it was something like
"not your personal army dude
stop pinging everyone for this petty shit
>inb4 you think I'm SHPEE"
and then he was banned

in the time it took me to fill out the captcha he pinged to no response yet again

>>4584441
ranger is cute

>>4584628
>They do have secret plots, yes.
>I oppose and threaten them.
>Obviously they'd conspire against whoever doesn't mindlessly suck them off.
>And those faggots are still in denial about me conceiving Benellus.
>Likely lead by terminus, Mike12, Ijon, Kegan and more are all confirmed to be one.
holy shit

>>4584627
Those are pretty good too as long as it's not down-to-the-wire. E1M1's secret that has you run to the hidden lift to reach that raised hallway was what originally introduced me to the concepts of linedef triggers and false walls before I even knew what they were within the engine. Marathon's also got a few cases of "hit switch, run around to found out what it did, hit switch again, run to the lift" secrets that I can think of.

>>4584462
>Dataminers found references to a "Keen" skin/player in the game's data. Keen's coming back, motherfuckers.
No, they didn't. What they found was a voice file announcing the name "KEEN" and one for "COMMANDER KEEN," both of which are completely unused (along with all the other character name announcements) and were recorded with the old, closed beta announcer voice and never updated like all the actual lines that ARE used to the new voice (humiliation, quad damage, kill streaks, etc).

>>4584639
he banned almost everyone from the server

>>4584628
>this whole thing
Can we get back to Doom now though? This is getting seriously sad.

>>4584645
down from probably 80 or so people

>>4584648
the server seems to be totally dead now so sure

I used to have respect for S'Arais (for whatever reason)
But this flawed mentality of "Punish the many for the stupid actions of one" is some "strict teacher at an elementary school" type petty shit.

>>4584645
>Don't shit up the Doom thread
Shitting up the Doom thread is exactly what he's trying to get people to do. That's quite ass backwards

aww came back from tidying my room and i got banned too :( see you some other time i guess bud

>>4584628
>>4584639
>And those faggots are still in denial about me conceiving Benellus.
THIS is your fucking motivation? This is what you still hold onto, year after year? That, in a forum of anonymous faggots that do things anonymously, your name isn't being held up as the start of a dumb meme?

>>4584650
>down from 80 or so people
>you will never be this shittershattered

>>4584645

>>4584628
thank you, narcissistic personality disorder is fascinating.

>>4584650
why were they in a channel where he has mod powers anyway? what is the channel for?

>>4584661
For everyone to suck his dick, otherwise they're a doominati spy.

>>4584605
>>4584636
>>4584645
>>4584650
>Not only is he an idiot that babbles on about illuminati circlejerk conspiracies but he himself creates his own illuminati circlejerk through his retarded actions
>Not only does he flip out over a mole in the server but starts banning innocent people without valid reason over this
>Not only does he clear out his ENTIRE SERVER until it's fucking devoid of life after all these bans
>But we also get to laugh at his retarded sperge out and drama fallout as it happens
This was off-topic as shit but it was worth the laugh, bravo you madman.

>>4584661
I found the server through him spamming fat fetish threads of xenomorphs on /trash/. Literally nobody but him used them and he'd remake them daily to post the same handful of images until people stopped giving him attention for spamming like an autist. Then he expanded the server to have 30 channels about random shit most people there didn't care about since they found it from a fucking porn dump.

I enjoyed A.L.T. but all the best stuff could be trimmed down to 10 missions

>>4584664
this, this is off-topic as fuck but holy shit was it hilarious

for multiple reasons i really hope nothing like this happens again

But wait, there's more!

>>4584664
His self-destruction is like fucking poetry.

the demone steele

wait so, this retard purged his entire server, and the "interloper" is STILL there? How incompetent is this spastic?

>>4584674
fix when

>>4584674

isn't that the secondary protag?

>>4584658
NOW WITH SOUND
>>>/wsg/2105568

>>4584674

Cute!

>>4584671
>Three unique people left and he still didn't ban the right person
Can't wait for that 2 person server count. The fucking idiot destroyed his own server in a matter of minutes.

>>4584675
no, he's now going into a different fetish server to try and intimidate people who have no clue what the fuck is going on

>>4584674
I like that cute but simple style.
I wonder if Doom mod with this artstyle for sprites would be viable.

>>4584683
what did jimmy do?

>>4584689
d o o m i n a t i

>>4584689
Gave him shit during JoM4 for acting like a tremendous faglord.

>>4584673
it seems to happen like once every month or two though, something will just set him off, some tiny thing that makes no sense why it would be so bothersome (this time: someone said "you can learn to code in a weekend") then he'll come back in a few days and pretend nothing happened.

>>4584680
lmao

>>4584689

Same thing I Terminus did, reject his map from a map pack.
That's it. That was his fucking start of darkness. That was his turning point into a fucking Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Now apparently we're a part of a conspiracy trying to keep him down.

>>4584683
>Just like Kate died to punish Jimmy
Oh dear. I'm going to hell for laughing at this.

So we have sector pizza, but has anyone made something so bold as a pan of sector lasagna?

>>4584683
M O A R

>>4584697
Nah man don't you remember when you banned him from #vr? That was the real start of it.

>>4584683
>just like kate died to punish jimmy
That's fucked up. Why would you say that?

>>4584701
I've made sector sperm cells before in my meme fireblu level, so we've gone too far I'd say.

>>4584683
that guy has a furry-like display pic? What is up with that?

>>4584704

Wasn't that ijon? Fuck, how long ago was that?

>>4584710
Might have been, I think it's been at least 4 years, maybe 5.

>>4584683
>Kate died to punish Jimmy
This is not okay

>>4584697
This is off-topic but why do you hate me, Terminus?

>>4584712
>>4584710
>>4584704
https://pastebin.com/31jwutKm
it was eric
specifically, it was eric after the fact

s'arais left entirely of his own volition beforehand, which makes this even more crazy
this downward spiral is 100% his own fucking doing

>>4584709
that's the type of places he hangs out in :^)
now he's freaking out in the main chat channel and pinging people (including people who didn't even use the server) trying to accuse them of shit

>>4584669
I like how crazy it looks in your screenshots. If it's any similar to Going Down I'll be playing it soon

>>4584674
she a cute

>>4584716
Came here from somewhere else, but holy fuck
I thought some of the communities I'm part of on /vg/ and shit are insane but this is next level.

I love it

>>4584650
Well, now we know who's in his fucksquad now

>>4584714

I have no idea who you are.

>>4584721
he's now accusing them of being responsible so not really
most people were in the server to watch shit like this

>>4584701
Woah it's my screenshot from a few months ago. Time sure flies.
Didn't mandrill ass project have an entire level that took place on a giant Thanksgiving dinner table?

Hi people, I've got a couple of questions regarding the internal files of WADs and google hasn't helped me.
I want to set a text screen at the end of my map but I'm not too sure how to trigger it (the switch at the end of my level has the action End Game)

Also, I've replaced Interpic.png but the game still shows a black screen. I have indexed the image and all that.

>>4584708
Look, I just wanted some sector food. Lasagna seems like it'd be easy to depict with the right texture choices. Also it's fucking delicious.

>>4584730
Do you have a picture of that too?

>>4584732

You want ENDGAME1, you also want to define clusterdef 1 in the newstyle with brackets.

>>4584717
I compare it to Going Down but it feels more meandering and isn't as consistent as GD

>>4584724
I'm the princess of Doom!

>>4584739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>4584736
I tried but GZDoom gives me this.

Can someone summarize the Discord server autism that was created in this thread? As far as I see it was just an obscure server raid for no reason on an irrelevant DOOM thread with the result being a bunch of people left because some retard couldn't just set it to no-invites/private?

>>4584745
Well, shit. Then I dunno lol

>>4584715
>downward spiral
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>4584716
I love that this entire situation turns into game of Mafia. Like some fucking The Thing shit, he's just sitting forcing people to take blood tests that detect if you're from /vr/ on gunpoint.

This is fucking hilarious. I know very little about this drama but holy fuck.

>>4584745
Alright so assuming you're not S'Arais, upload the MAPINFO and let's take a look at it.

>>4584747
close, but vice-versa. someone on an obscure discord tried to raid an irrelevant Doom thread

then he started banning everybody who wasn't partaking

Map for the Vargskelethor mapping competition is pretty much done already. Should probably make another map while waiting for the deadline and submit the better one. Anyways, here it is:
https://mega.nz/#!VsM0XaQb!HSCALa0fEGZhADXX-7laHsGERF_AHc2Ck1Cri1NAJA
Keep in mind that it's for Z/GZDoom. Also you need to kill the boss dude at the end to access the exit.

>>4584753
Congratulations on finishing. I'll play it a little later.

>>4584753
You might've linked that wrong, it's telling me there's an invalid key.

>>4584753
give us the name in the post man! it's the most important part!

>>4584747
>somewhat infamous autist tries raiding this thread to piss off the """doominati"""
>repeatedly pings everyone to try and get them to do shit
>nobody gives a shit so instead people tell the thread a raid is incoming and document his ensuing spergout
>he bans literally everyone from the server (which had ~100 people in it probably) to try and stop the shit from leaking out
>he then goes into another server where nobody knows what he's talking about and makes a fool of himself trying to "take the interloper down"
>>4584750
yeah, he's not the most rational individual

>>4584747
>Local retard tries to bully his echo chamber into raiding a thread with shitposts to get back at muh illuminati
>Some anon warns about it and posts chat logs
>Retard panics and goes on a power-trip and threatens to ban anyone that doesn't conform to his will of being his personal army
>No one even took part in the raid but everyone got banned for the threat of being a mole; the mole still wasn't banned after the server was wiped clean
>Everyone laughs at the retard for 10 minutes and life goes on
I don't even know if that guy's server was even Doom related, it didn't seem like it since a few people didn't know about these threads nor 4chan as a whole.

>>4584756
Thanks.
>>4584757
Oh damn, the link was missing an e.
https://mega.nz/#!VsM0XaQb!HSCALa0fEGZhADXX-7laHsGERF_AHc2Ck1Cri1NAJAE
>>4584758
Name of what? The wad? Joel's Adventure To Hell. My name? Anonymous.

hmm

>>4584767
What happened to Jimmy?

>>4584734
Here you go. It's map 7. If you haven't played Mandrill Ass Project yet I would highly recommend it, it's legendary.

>>4584770
his friend died

s'arais believes this was karmic retribution for not accepting his map

not even joking, like holy shit

>>4584770
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=58858

>>4584767
the headlines tonight: insane man murders transexual woman as revenge for internet snub. claimed later his tulpa made him do it. we'll have the full story after these messages

>>4584767
>>4584770
The guy also legitimately believes that he's being controlled by a tulpa of his OC Xenomorph Queen that punishes people who go against him.

>>4584747

>>4584751
https://my.mixtape.moe/hjxrjk.txt

>>4584758
I want to pet the cacodemon.

>>4584772
Also have a random screenshot that I took when playing with GZDB like a year ago.

>>4584780
not fat enough

>>4584782
http://www.hatebin.com/iafayypwzc ? Try this

>>4584782
don't you want "clusterdef 1" outside of the braces?

>>4584786
>inhumanly large boner gets his revenge

>>4584780
Please
Please let this be the next op image

>>4584786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
Soundtrack

>>4584774
>>4584779
This is next-level advanced terminal autism of the highest degree, holy shit. This guy sounds like the next Sgt Mark in the making.

>>4584798
>This guy sounds like the next Sgt Mark in the making.
sgt mark can make decent maps though

>>4584794
no i recommend against it, this has been a laugh but leave it in one thread.

>>4584770
*Kate
died

was close friends with Jimmy and BouncyTem