/vr/ - Retro Games

you can float for like 2 full seconds how are you falling into pits.
anyway I loved the platforming in this game, espeically the auto-scrolling 'athletic' levels

>>4579723
>stupid amount of platforming
Why do you consider this a flaw in a platformer? lol
>same level design philosophy as Mario
Wat
>more action-oriented game like Contra/Megaman
A run and gun with eggs, that's a hilarious thought, thanks for the laugh, OP (not trashing you here btw)

>>4579726
Bcause Yoshi has the momentum of a goddamn cannonball, it's like I'm controlling a jumping bulldozer. Precision jumping just doesn't feel good, not in the same way as SMW at least. Also, I dunno maybe the emulator is to blame but input lag on his floating ability is insane

>>4579723
Honestly you sound like you're pretty shit at the game, but you're not entirely wrong. Yoshi is better suited to a game about action and exploration.

Like Yoshi's Story.

The superior sequel.

>>4579734
momentum is very, very weak in Yoshi's Island. Jumping from full run speed barely sends you farther than jumping from a standstill. SMW has much, much more momentum.

>>4579735
I've beat the game with like 50 lives left, it's not exactly super difficult. The point is, I had to cuck myself out of having fun and went through the levels in the most delicate, dull way possible in order to do so

>>4579749
Yeah, that's pretty much the game frankly. Don't expect too much sympathy though, the spergs around here literally worship this game and will throat fuck you for criticizing it (let alone bringing up Yoshi's Story, which causes them to have a full blown autistic breakdown). Had it not been for the charming graphical style, people wouldn't give a fuck about this game and it would be ridiculed for the screaming baby mechanic at every opportunity. Just go play better platformers.

>>4579749
that doesn't make any sense to me. The float is one of the biggest safety nets if not the biggest saftey net in a platformer and it allows you to play like a maniac. You definitely didn't get some of the red coins in the auto scrollers if you were playing in the most delicate, dull way

>>4579745
I gotta be kidding. This is the skid from normal run

>>4579759
ok now do the same test but with a jump, which is the part that matters in a platformer. hold the jump button for the whole jump both times. jumping from full run speed will barely give you any more distance.

>>4579745
And this is why I like to play this much more than any of the regular Mario or Sonic games.

>>4579735
It's like Nintendo suddenly realised that their character eats enemies whole and then pushes them through his anus and been trying to fix him ever since with cute faux toy story and wool aesthetics

>>4579735
I love how shy guys became yoshi foes. Yoshi games are very much the successor of the Super Mario bros games. Before NEW Super Mario bros came out.

>>4579723
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>>4579798
i dont get why it bothers people

Your problem with the platformer is that it has platforming?

My problem with that game is the neverending hell of collecting.

>>4579798
Get gud fag

>>4579735
I’ve had this game since I was 6. Literally the first game I ever owned. I had no idea you could pop bubbles like that til now. God damn holy shit.

>>4579798
This meme is getting very stale and I'm not even a huge fan of Yoshi's Island (I just like the game).
>>4579821
Only if you go for the 100% stuff I guess.

>>4579817
Seriously, if anyone is whining about the crying it's because they suck at the game. If you get good you won't have to hear it.

>>4579860
There's actually a lot of cool stuff like this that most people don't know about. The power of Yoshi's eggs changes with mood, shy guys give more points if they match the color of your Yoshi, you can eat enemies on different levels if you sweep the tongue in a circular motion, you can stop aiming an egg if you press B... bunch of stuff.

>>4579776
How do you know he doesn't have a boipucci?

>>4579723
>Just let me shoot stuff and go crazy, fuck.
Then go get your Superscope, dood.

>>4579821
Not every platformer must be a jumping obstacle couse you know. Consider Sonic games. They have very few bottomless pits and the spikes don't instagib your character. Still there, just enough to keep the game tense but generally, in a Sonic game you can be confident about every jump and go as fast as you can, and this is what the game is about basically. Level design complements character design.

>>4579723
>
Holy fuck a Run n' Gun Yoshi game... despite your faggotry, OP, this is brilliant.

>>4579915
>instagib
>>>>>4398774
So you're saying games with many jumping obstacles aren't just platformers but a subset of them called, um, PLATFORM HELL?

>>4579921

>>4579925
OK, you weren't saying that; it was just a silly joke this time, no offense.

>Why did nobody at Nintendo realise that Yoshi doesn't fit in a game with the same level design philosophy as Mario?

>Super Mario World 2

>>4579917
Contra yoshi? Hmmmm,.

>>4579941
Yeah, that part of the OP is particularly retarded

>>4579735
>storyfagstrikes again
Look man, I like Story. I know it's severely overhated because people constantly compare it to Island, etc. But come on.
>>4579912
Patrician

>>4579993
>Look man, I like Story. I know it's severely overhated because people constantly compare it to Island, etc. But come on.
Come on what? It's the better game. It's a pure, unadulterated platformer with amazing graphics and music, flawless controls, relaxing gameplay, levels with branching paths and lots of replyability, some cool secrets, memorable enemies and bosses, it's a great game. Literally the only legitimate criticisms I ever hear of this game boil down to "it's too easy" or "i hate little hearts and flowers", as if a game actually being fun once in awhile is a problem or that YI isn't just as sickeningly cute.

>>4580018
I usually defend Story because a lot of people attack it, but I don't think it's better than Island.
If you want a legitimate criticism, I think sniffing isn't all that fun. It's a cool feature, but if you want to find all the melons you have to randomly sniff through all the level, it gets tedious. Also, the game's story mode should have included at least twice the levels it had. Having to unlock levels is what makes people think the game is "too short".
Story is indeed hated more than it deserves, way more. But attacking Island and saying Story is a better game you won't really convince people.

>>4580047
>If you want a legitimate criticism, I think sniffing isn't all that fun. It's a cool feature, but if you want to find all the melons you have to randomly sniff through all the level, it gets tedious. Also, the game's story mode should have included at least twice the levels it had. Having to unlock levels is what makes people think the game is "too short".
I'll agree sniffing could have been implemented better, but to be fair, there is no inherent reward in finding every melon or anything, so sniffing is just a fun addition for finding additional secrets after you've already thoroughly explored a level many times. Moreover, most people think it's short not because you have to unlock other levels, but because they think the 6 first levels you play are the entire game. Some are aware of the extra levels no doubt, but don't seem to care about them. What's bizarre to me is that the levels are generally huge and filled with different environments and enemies and obstacles, so there's actually a ton to explore. Once you've played a level in Yoshi's Island, that's it, you've seen it all. But when you play a level in Story, you can come back years later and still find a secret route or area you hadn't before.

If you like Island more, that's fine, I don't, we're all entitled to our opinions. What bothers me more than anything is that people act like it isn't just an inferior game to YI, but a bad game on its own merits, which it isn't by any reasonable definition.

>>4579723
fucking masterpiece

>>4580098
even playing the 30 extra levels the game is 12 hours long at best. it is pathetically short any way you look at it MUH MELONS is the only thing giving it some longevity

>>4580528
not that guy and I strongly prefer Island to STory but is that a criticism? 12 hours is a lot...Yoshi's Island is nowhere close to that. Some of the best games can be beat in 20 minutes (without speedrunning)

Question. I'm using a PAL version of Yoshi's Island. A Canadian friend wants to trade his NTSC cartridge for my PAL one. I'm going to send it to him soon. But I've never sent anything more than a letter before. My question is, how do you package a SNES cartridge to ensure the
delivery is safe? What packaging materials do I require?

>pic SNES PAL switchless mod

>>4579734
I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on the momentum in SMB1.

>>4579773
This.

>>4579798
Git gud.

>>4580974
I'd imagine that basic bubble wrap envelope is more than enough

>>4580974
Cart wrapped in bubble wrap and packed in a cardboard box should be plenty enough.

Such an easy game come on op

Trihex and Carl Sagan did runs of it at agdq and they explain how to basically just get good at the game while showing it for a couple hours. Watch high level play of it it all feels very easy once you know what you're doing

I'm glad you got to the end at least though lots of people give up last half of world 5 or first half of world 6

Try all of GoldenYoshis romhacks of it now. most of the levels feel like they would've fit right in in the original

>>4581017
that sounds cozy.

>>4579798

While it is annoying that is its whole point and it's good it's there. Notice that there is no health system in YI, so that is there to compensate, it's what you get for letting yourself get hit, other games would subtract some health, here as a punishment you have to hear that sound for a few seconds. You know you are good if you pretty much never hear this sound.

tl;dr: as others said: git gud

>>4581017
>tfw you get to the piss cave level

>>4580526
OP should kill himself

>>4582075
That was an unnecessarily hurtful thing to say

>>4581182
Losing health and dying is fun, there's a learning process.

Hearing a baby crying is not fun.

>But if you lesson to the baby scream for long enough you will eventually improve and be miserable less often

Or you turn the shitty game off and play another one that doesn't fill itself with annoying sounds. You don't have to here annoying sounds when Simon Belmont, Bill Bizor, Ryu, Author, adult Mario, or any other platforming characters takes a hit.

>>4579798
TL:DR
>>4579723
Anyway, as much as I would love to rip you a new one, I do believe that Yoshi can take some time to get used to. His jumps are sometimes finicky, which is why the flutter jump exists, throwing eggs is finicky, a lot of that stuff is finicky. However, I got used to the controls and was able to have a lot of fun. Except getting 100%. Fuck that.
>>4579912
>>4579917
Now these fuckers get it.

>>4579860
>>4580992
I made that post to mock OP you fucking inbreeds

Which do you think is better yoshi's story or yoshi's island ds

>>4582459
woolly world > island > ds > story > nu-island

>>4579723
bought this on the wii u virtual console based on all the dicksucking it gets, and i have never been more disappointed in a game. so boring. makes me angry thinking about the wasted money.

still don't know how to save. i just used restore points.

>>4582537
This has got to be bait.

You save after every 4 stages. if 8 bucks makes you angry you are either unstable or in a pretty bad place financially

>>4582537
>still don't know how to save
what

>>4582489

I hope Woolly gets ported to Switch.

>>4582553
>>4582559
not kidding about the saving. also wiped out a game of chrono trigger after the jailbreak bc i wasn't saving in that game either (though i thought it was). started me back to the beginning.

>>4579723
That's what the hover jump is for you fuckwit.

>>4582573
Yoshi's Island saves automatically after each level.

>>4582559
It means he couldn't even finish playing the first 4 levels before giving up.

>>4582589
But IIRC, the game saves after each level. You don't need to beat the castles to save.

There's a delay before the baby starts crying. In most situations, you can pop the bubble before the sound ever plays.

>>4581012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFbc-PW2m-Q

Thanks for mentioning this, the run was great

I like Plok better than Yoshi's Island, and I wish Nintendo had agreed to co-developing it instead of passing on it for its similarities to YI.

Objectively YI is the better game though

>>4582589

But the first 4 levels are really easy.

>>4583216
Don't underestimate the power of modern games to make /v/-tards suck to points you even thought impossible.

>>4583314

If someone can't get past the first 4 levels in YI, they just suck at video games. I was able to beat them without any trouble as a kid.

The game as a whole isn't that difficult.

>>4579817
Human baby cries are designed to annoy us and get our attention

>mfw this whole fucking thread
No wonder I don't come here anymore.

>>4579798
I feel like this is more a commentary on the OP's skills and his response to the lack of those skills.

>>4582537
alright. nvm. i do have a restore point for 2-8, but i loaded the game from the menu, and it looks like it was saving. doesn't change the fact that this game sucks.

>>4583403
you're too much of a brainlet to have an opinion on any game.

>>4583375
Stop only looking at obviously shitty threads.
>>4583324
Again modern gayms ask absolutely nothing from you. You'd be surprised how much modern gamers can suck at even the most simple stuff. Again, I know a guy like this that couldn't defeat Aria of Sorrow's first boss after several attempts and quit the game.

>>4579882
>>4583360

I don't get how people don't realize that Baby Mario's cries being annoying was an intentional design choice.

>>4579723

>Bottomless pits, spikes and lava and stupid amount of platforming

"Why is there platforming in my platformer?".

>Why did nobody at Nintendo realize that Yoshi doesn't fit in a game with the same level design philosophy as Mario?

It doesn't have the same level design philosophy as Mario.

>Yoshi clearly belongs in a more action-oriented game like Contra/Megaman

What about Yoshi makes you think he belongs in a more action-oriented game?

>>4580974
i've sold on ebay, and what i've used (without any broken cartridges) is the game wrapped in bubble wrap sent in a bubble mailer.

>>4583483
>it's shit on purpose, therefore it's good
Love that argument

>>4583569
It's like when people argue as to why survival horror need to controls like ass because it "makes sense". I hate this ludonarrative crap.
That said, I don't think the crying is that bad here.

>>4583394
No shit, which is why I posted that, to make fun of how shitty OP plays the game and here are people tell me to "git gud" I play the game just fine. I guess nobody got the joke >>4579798

>>4583569
It was designed to weed out the weak people like you who cant enjoy this avant garde platformer.

People bitch too much about the baby's crying, when the real problem with Yoshi's Island is the fact that it invented health regen.

Fuck YI, and all Yoshi games for that matter.

>>4583647
it pretty much never comes into play because you always have bonus health from stars anyway. YI's health system is more comparable to Sonic: get hit, pick up a ring (or baby), and you're good.

>>4583647
Yoshi's Island is not a popamole, dude.

>>4583647
Health regen isnt inherently a bad thing, it doesnt make the game easier or harder since you are mostly going to die from pits and spike anyway. Did you actually play the game like what the fuck is this argument.

>>4579896
and that would make the concept less disturbing how?

>>4583647
Sonic came out before it, and it's ring system is basically the same shit - as long as you can grab that one ring Sonic is basically immortal. At least in YI you cant get hit too often because the timer would eventually run out

>>4583569
Excellent shitpost. It's like I'm actually on /v/.

>>4579798
>TL;DR

>obvious bait the moment OP complained about pits on a platformer
>almost 100 replies