/vr/ - Retro Games

>>457423
God damn, right now I am grinding before Kefka's tower. Fuck this shit.

4:3 aspect ratio

Looking at that map... holy shit did WoB have lotsa mountains

>>457423
Because on a 2D plane, making a globe is completely impossible.

>Fly to the north pole
>Pop out from the south

16 bit planets are physically impossible.

Guys.

2D world maps are donuts.

>>457459
He's right.

>implying Square weren't on mushrooms before enix came along
I know Final fantasy is pretty tame compared to most jrpgs but most of them always have some crazy jap shit in it

>>457483
I really miss Sakaguchi.

>>457483
ya dude xD 2 nukes werent enough!!1! dem crazy nips man

>>457506
Go home /v/, you're drunk.

>>457459
They're called tori, you pleb.

>>457506
>>/v/

>>457501
Well Last Story was pretty good. It really has that Sakaguchi style. And Nobou's music helps. I also hear that lost odyssey was good too

The boring explanation is that it's much more efficient to store things in memory that way.

FF8 had a round world. It wasn't that great.

>>457423
>Why is the world always square?

Because it's a Square creation.

>>457686

At the least the land is not square. A lot of sand box games these days just plops you onto a square piece of land and calls it a day. Also I never realized how many damn mountains there were in FF6.

>>457716
>Also I never realized how many damn mountains there were in FF6.
This. God damn. No wonder Figaro's a desert, just look at that shit.

>>457459
Still not perfectly square.

It's what was hip back in the day.

Even with all those mountains taking up most of the landmass, the Figaro desert and the Veldt felt huge.

>>457459
Still wouldn't be perfectly square.

thee exception.

Because 1024x1024 / 512x512 tiles limit.

>>457454

But that's what happens in real life. If you got far enough north, you'll start coming from the south.

>>461378
except you'd fly over upside-down other side first

>>457441
that's one thing that pisses me off somewhat about 2D RPGs since the NES days
> swamps you can just walk through real easy
> these rivers need a small boat to move on
> all this fucking ocean holy shit
> don't worry you get a big ship to travel on it
> you get the air ship
> you can't encounter air-based enemies
> all other forms of transport are now obsolete
> except the boss area that you have to walk to after re-using the ship, because LOL NO AIR SHIP LANDING SITE

> all these fucking mountains
> you can't walk on any of them
> ever
just once I want to walk on mountains

> Ogre Battle 64 made that dream come true, too bad it was pretty worthless

>>457423
ERAUQS SI DLROW EHT

>>457686
Fuck off, Carlos.

FF worlds are donut shaped since the north and south wrap around each other like east and west do.

>>461690
"torus" is another name for a 2D map that loops horizontally and vertically.

a more realistic representation of a sphere on a 2D map would wrap the world on 1 axis only like a cylinder; you would also move more slowly the closer to the center of the cylinder you get.

>>460896
I don't quite remember Terranigma's world. It looked awesome, but... I think it was squared, actually...

Secret of Mana, though, really had a spherical world!! Flying with flammie felt goddam awesome!

>>461381
Wait, so if you flew to the northernmost part of the world, then kept going, but then the world turned flat, you'd be on either the left or right side heading south, right? Because of how a map represents the world, is by making itself essentially a flat globe?

>>457423
it's called a 'map'

It's because it's a map and not actually the world.

>>457437
It's so easy in FFVI. Go to that dinosaur place, make the dinosaurs invisible then use doom on them. Works every single time.

>>457423
>>461863
I remember one time while my brother and I were looking around for different cheats (within the game's code) for FF3/6 with a cheat engine (ZSNES's I think), we stumbled across a code that allowed you to walk the overworld on foot from the perspective angle of the airships. It was pretty nifty, and I wanted to try that again, I just forgot what block of code took care of it, and what bit-depth it was at (probably 2 bytes).

>>462026
While on that note, I'm wondering what code to also look for to change out airships mid-game. I want to fly the Falcon in the WoB, and "salvage" the Blackjack in WoR.

>>457437
>Grinding to fight Kefka
>Not getting Celestriads for your whole team and spamming everything with ultima

>>462073
>not spamming ultima regardless of the presence of celestriads

>Sabin's Cabin
>mfw it rhymes

>>461863
Nope, pretty sure both that and the sequel were square, they did a good job hiding it though.

>>462881
Sabin's Cob-bean?

>>457423
Because it is.

>>465398

What game is that from?

Is posting threads fucked for everyone?

>>465498

Terranigma

>>461828
I'm developing a game that does this.

>>465671
You mean like FF8?

>>465682
No. I don't like rpgs.

Because using basic topology you can fold a square into a sphere, which is the actual in-game geometry of the world map. Check out fundamental polygons on Wikipedia or something.

>>461958
I was magic grinding. Found that place with the Cactrots. Went alright

>>465512

>>465840
>you can fold a square into a sphere

wut

>>465937

You can also "fold" a square into a real projective plane and a Klein bottle, two surfaces that can't be embedded in three-dimensional space without self-intersections. Yeah, it's an impractically mathematical notion of "fold", but you can certainly fold a square into a torus (doughnut), and it's perfectly feasible to represent in code.

>>465498
Dragon Quest III

Someone should make a pic of the FF world maps actually wrapped on a torus.

>>461863
Wasn't Terranigma's world just a copy of ours? I've never played it, what with me being American.