/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4555373
You could attach your bench psy to the battery rails then change the battery, then remove your psu. It's probably too late for such things in 2018 though, but it wasn't difficult

>>4555393
>Brb changing batteries in my GB carts so saves don't disappear

Is there even a single person on this planet that actually does this every few years to be sure the saves aren't lost? That'd be someone really fucking dedicated to his games.

>>4555373
>get all legendaries including mew
>level up my fav pokemon to 100
>battery dies save is lost
>play red version
>get all legendaries including 7 mews
>have fun making new pokemon
>battery dies saves are lost.

I'm pretty sure the battery of my Pokemon Red is done, about 5 years ago I turned it on and it had no save, I tried again and it was there, I was afraid to turn it off again so for the past 5 years it's been on.
Luckily I had the AC adapter for the Game Boy so it's been running off of it. I haven't had any power outs or whatever or I'd kill myself. It doesn't use that much electricity and it's a neat story when people come over. It's also cool to have my team ready to plow through whenever I want without having to boot it up. Of course it has fresh batteries if the power ever goes out or I want to go somewhere. The ever on game boy.

>>4555457
I plan to eventually somehow transfer the file to my PC and then replace the battery but haven't done it.

>>4555457
>ready to plow through whenever i want
that was always the downfall of pokemon r/b for me. There isn't too much endgame shit for me to do. Besides beating elite 4 100 times and going to the hidden cave to fight strong pokemon. I've heard crystal version has some post game shit you can do but never looked into it.

Consequently no endgame stuff to do means i've replayed pokemon red about 30 times at minimum

The thing about battery death is that it usually occurs 20 years after the purchase of a game so most healthy minded people have already moved on and no longer have any emotional connection with the lost save file.

Are you sure you have them ALL? Legitimately?

By the way a good way to preserve your mons is saving them on Pokemon Stadium.
But RBY don't seem to have dead battery problems, that's Gen 2 due to the internal clock.

>>4555373
You grow up and storing caring about digital numbers.

There are backup devices for copying SRAM, such as the Mega Memory Card and the Monster Brain, which doubles as a Pokemon cheat device. The latter one is the most affordable option. I believe I got mine for USD$10. Both use Flash modules to make backups, so the backups are theoretically permanent.

>>4555843
>The thing about battery death is that it usually occurs 20 years after the purchase of a game
Except it doesn't. Pokemon batteries are notorious for their early and untimely demise, especially Gold / Silver / Crystal since those also used a real-time clock feature. I once lost my SRAM on a 5-year-old Pokemon Blue cart that I bought new from Walmart. The battery wouldn't retain save data thereafter.

>game shark your roster back
>try to pretend they still have souls
this actually happened to me in pso

If you have an N64 flash cart and a Transfer Pak, there's a homebrew program someone made for backing up GB save files. It's what I use.

>>4555862
Ruby and sapphire also have their batteries die. I replaced the batteries like 2 months ago.

>>4555862
RBY still have batteries dying. I just picked up a copy of Yellow recently and I had to replace the battery in it.

>>4555407
Every few years? pal those 2032 cell batteries lived through like 15 years.

>>4555914
Alright, but they definitely outlived most Gen 2 carts. My Gold cart's battery got wiped like 6 or 7 years after I purchased it at release. My Blue (pictured), also bought at release, still works.

>>4555929
This is true. GSC's batteries also power the RTC function while the game is off, so they do drain faster. But a lot of Gen 1 batteries are either dead, or very close dying right now if they have not been replaced.

>>4555910
Forgive my indiscretion. I've been working too much lately. I reread and now see my mistake. lol

>>4555862
I did but unfortunately my legit Mew was lost with my Silver save file over 12 years ago.

Hello there!

>>4556027
It would cost less to buy every game worth owning than it would to 'invest' in an Everdrive. Besides, the cheaper carts like SmartCard work just the same with patched mapper and multi SRAM support.

>>4556027
What's the difference between that and this?

>>4556043
not much, you probably wouldn't run into any problem with your pic related. Everdrive is just a well established cart maker and all his stuff can basically run like 99.9% of the library.

>>4555447
>Playing through Red version
>Catch a moderate amount of em
>Upload them to THE CLOUD
>Bring then into Sun
>Game is shit, Pokemon are fucked by generational updates

>>4555464
Crystal added the Battle Tower, but the international versions of it are severely gimped since it was originally part of the Japanese version's online function. It's there, though.

>unscrew cart shell
>pop game into gba/sp
>heat up soldering iron
>replace battery
ez
just playing a fresh-battery Crystal rn actually
backlit GBA makes this 10x easier to enjoy, even if it's a bit wonky of a backlight that I need to adjust so the screen doesn't blue if I press down on the console

>>4555407
>dedicated
https://www.polygon.com/nintendo/2016/1/2/10701068/snes-powered-on-20-years-gamesave-data

>>4555407
dude you don't have to change batteries all the time. just backup your saves regularly and when the battery actually dies, replace it and put the save back.

>>4555464
>>4556294
the real postgame is called "pokemon stadium"

>>4556043
When will he sell more SDcarts

Stop making lsdj and cart flashing shit, fuck

>>4556303
isnt soldering a battery while the game is turned on dangerous?

>>4555373
i don't need to keep a perfect save file forever to enjoy having finished the game

>>4555373
back up your pokemon on Pokemon Stadium 1/2

>>4556584
not as long as you minimise contact with the actual shell and circuitboard

pretty easy to tap the iron on for a second to pop the battery off and the solder should melt immediately when you solder a battery back in

but yeah, it'd be safer to just hook the cart up to something that can rip saves and back it up every few months until you need to replace the battery

>>4555373
I just don't give a shit, that's life and I already played them after all

if it happened at the time I would have been mad, but it has been more than 10 years, it's not like I didn't move on to newer games

Also, I wouldn't have survived the nostalgia blast, so it's better that way

>>4556584
Soldering directly to a battery at all can cause it to explode at random

Lots of batteries are difficult to solder to

Better to replace the entire battery-contact assembly with the correct part

>>4557107
I tried it when I was younger and dumber and the solder didn't even want to stick to it.

>>4555909
Does it work on gen 2 or just gen 1?

>>4555373
>>Battery expires

>found my GBC the other day
>Pokemon Silver still in the there
>still has my save from the 00's

smug.png

>>4557107
>>4557245
I had this problem with one of those rechargeable GB grips when the battery died. I ended up just holding the contacts down with a something small and hot gluing it in place

>>4557252
It's worked with every GB and GBC game I've tried so far, including Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon.

Why do people even bother de-soldering and soldering the batteries in GBC games? I've always just removed the contacts from the original battery with a razor blade and re-used them for the new battery, with a bit of electric tape to hold it in place.

>>4557443
Until it bumps out of place. It's a really ghetto method.
Installing a battery holder is the correct answer.

>>4557456
It's so snug, there's no room for it to move around in the cartridge. I've shaken mine violently, tossed it across the room, stepped on it. Still holds a save.

I've got a copy of Silver that I replaced the battery for back in 2010 this way and the save still works.

I guess it just doesn't seem worth the extra effort to me, but to each their own.

>>4557443
>with a bit of electric tape to hold it in place
Masking tape is just fine, and far less messy. It pulls right off. Electric tape is also a bit too thick for this purpose.

>>4557456
>Until it bumps out of place
This doesn't happen. There's barely enough room to wrap a layer of tape all the way around the battery, which will hold it in place indefinitely. Using larger batteries like 2025 or 2032 (which only a few carts can fit) will make for an even tighter fit.

>battery holder
There literally isn't room for something like this. Apparently you've never replaced a GB SRAM battery before.

>>4555986
That's sad anon, but that sticker is dope

>>4557607
I've had good results with the electric tape, but if I don't position it right it can cause a bit of a bulge in the plastic. I also tend to stretch the tape considerably to get it as tightly wrapped as possible. I'll give masking tape a try next time.

>>4557609
I got it during a flash event at a shopping mall, it was coincidence I even had my Pokémon cartridge with me. I still wonder what kind of hardware they used to make the transfer since I can't clearly remember. IIRC I just had to hand over the cart and there was a screen showing the trade. I think they might have used 2 Super Game Boy 2 carts(the one with the link port) but I couldn't really find much clear info on this apart from the Japanese version of the events.

>>4555373
>emulate game
>no longer an issue

Besides this just means you get to play this fun game and experience the journey again!

>>4557646
pic related is the one used in Japan, right?

>>4556043
The El Cheapo is never, ever in stock, the EverDrive is. Which sucks because I would way rather give BennVenn my money.

>>4557646
I remember doing it at Toys R Us, and they had special kiosks that you could plug your game into. It appeared to be come kind of SGB setup of some kind.

>>4557607
>There literally isn't room for something like this. Apparently you've never replaced a GB SRAM battery before.
I bought pre-tabbed batteries for my Gold and Silver, but bought holders for Ruby and Emerald. They fit even while laying on top of a chip, so idk why they wouldn't fit flush on the board in a GB cart.

>>4557662
Yeah. They might have used the same/a similar setup since I do remember them plugging it into a cartridge slot like that. Apparently some places just used a Game Boy stocked up with Mews but I think that was only in the US.(event I was at was in the Netherlands)

>>4557678
Was just about to mention the cart with a ton of mews on it, I remember reading that somewhere online. Maybe one of the many pokemon wikis.

>>4557681
It was likely done as a cheaper solution for the more rural areas in the US. I think they had the fancy kiosks in the first place so kids wouldn't clog up the waiting line getting to a Pokémon Center or catching a Rattata to trade.

>>4557675
>but bought holders for Ruby and Emerald
I have no idea about GBA carts, but the battery holders depicted in your image definitely won't fit in a standard GB/C cart. There simply isn't enough space. In most cases, you can't even fit a CR2032 battery in the cart because of the battery's thickness. I use 2025s when they fit, but sometimes I actually have to use 2016s due to cartridge restraints.

>>4557707
>but the battery holders depicted in your image definitely won't fit in a standard GB/C cart.
It was just a generic image. The ones I used looked more like this.

>>4557715
Those still look pretty thick. If it's thicker than the battery itself, it won't fit a GB/C cart. Consider that those cartridges are quite thin compared to GBA carts, then you have the thickness of the PCB and the inside of the cart to take into consideration as well. They can just barely fit the factory battery on top of the PCB.

>>4557715
I'm not sure how any of these types of holders would work. Even with just a thin metal tab, there's not a lot of clearance between the battery and the cartridge plastic.

Can you provide a part number or something?

>>4557701
Makes sense, wish I had had the opportunity to get a Mew. I knew a guy who did though, he was a god among us at the time.

>>4557721
>>4557724
I've done some digging, seeing if anyone posted pictures online of them installing one in a GB pokemon game but the only ones I've found are using incorrect, smaller batteries.

They would otherwise fit in other GB games that normally use a smaller battery, or have a convex grip.

>>4557753
That's a 1616 battery. It won't last quite as long as a battery should, especially in Pokemon carts. For me, it's 20XX or nothing. Which is not a problem if you tape the battery onto the existing tabs. Contrary to what an earlier anon suggested, a 20XX is not going to come lose on its own. It's not likely to come lose even if you decide not to tape it.

>>4557245

If you still have the problem, clean the surface really good with alcohol and flux the shit out of it. Flux is the key to getting solder to stick.

I still use original cartridges. I have two Mega Memory Cards for Gameboy Color, which I backup my data to.

https://www.amazon.com/Mega-Memory-Card/dp/B00002R108/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I have had all three generation 2 games die, but when I noticed the clock not keeping track of time (a clear sign that the battery is almost dead) I backed up the saves, replaced the battery with a stronger CR2032 battery and reloaded the saves from the Mega Memory Card. Then it was just a matter of resetting the clock and the games were back, good as new.

It's important to backup the saves further from the Mega Memory Card to a PC though, as I have seen instances of the saves being wiped from it.

>>4557913
I didn't know about this device, thanks for telling me. How do you backup saves to PC with it? Does it have a USB port or does it require some tricks?

>>4555457
Goddamn you've had it on for 5 years?? That's pretty cool. Do you intend to let it go forever till the hardware fails or do you plan to shut it off at some point?

>>4555373
This happened to my old Silver save which I had played since middle school. I replaced the battery but I didn't really have the motivation to catch them all again in that game, though if I did I would save them all in Pokémon Stadium 2.

>>4555457
Yeah, I don't believe you. If you unplug a Game Boy that has batteries in it, it'll reset anyway, as anyone who's ever tried it knows.

>>4557396
say goodbye to them one last time then

those batteries normally last around 10 years

I knew from the start my save would be lost, so I never cared about it

>>4559087
It never supported PC transfer officially, but in recent years there have been devices released that can backup data from it. You can get a kit from Tototek.com I think.

>>4555862
Stadium's battery will die some day, too.

>>4557701
Most places did this, and it's how the original events in Japan were done too. You had to mail in your cart and would get it back with a Mew in your party.
The SGB kiosks were made for Nintendo Spaceworld, since they needed a more efficient solution there.

>>4559441
they're most likely already dead, I don't think the batteries are much different, they normally last around 10 years

>>4559441
>>4559628
I have yet to come across a N64 cart with a dead battery. Although I'm sure there are, they're less common than dead GB games batteries.

>>4555457
thats retarded just transfer your pokemon to another cart

>>4555373
Unfortunately for me, my 151 save on Yellow was lost. After that I really didn’t want to deal with that again so I’ve just started playing them on the 3DS - i know 3DS isn’t -retro- but I feel much better about my save staying intact.

>>4555373

Emulators, anon

Plus you can use your savefile on pokemon stadium 1 and 2 for maximum comfy playing

>>4555407
I actually got to learn how to do that as a kid by my dad. He worked for Pacific bell as a technician before it got bought by SBC. I dont know what the name of the tool is to unscrew that bolt in the back but he had it. It looked like a screwdriver with a hollow point. He then took it apart and showed me how some of it worked. Couldn't grasp all of it(was 6, not a genuis), but I understood the part about the battery dying causing the memory to go out. My Yellow version battery died, He bought me a used Red, it also had a dead battery, found out the problem and fixed them both. Miss you, dad.

Just replace the battery or get a new cart and do it again. Catching 150 Pokemon doesn't take that long if you have access to Red and Blue. There are plenty of guides online telling you where to find everything if you need help (but you shouldn't). There are even catch'em all speedruns.
The only issue is if you have a legit event Mew from back in the day, you're getting another one of those and will have to make do with one gotten through the glitch thing.

Same thing for any other game, by the way. If your save is gone just beat it again. How hard can it be? You did it before when you were a dumb kid.

>>4561460
>Stop crying you whiny bitch, who cares if your kid died in a car crash? Just make another, duh!

>>4561479
>comparing the loss of a child to a save from a videogame
You were just shitposting, right?

>>4555373
There are so many ways to deal with this that it's ridiculous that people have this problem these days.

>>4561481
considering there was a thread on this board to talk about people crying over beating mario 64, I doubt

>>4561481
It was of course an hyperbole to underline how you must have lacked of a heart

>>4561447
those hidden feels

>>4561481
>children come and go
>a savefile is unique like a snowflake and will love you forever

What are you doing with your life?

>all these plebs thinking losing your save file somehow erases your actual experiences
Are you sure you're all over 18 years old?

>>4555373
Everything comes to an end someday OP.

>>4563395
>3deep5science
kids lol

>>4555373
there is tons of ways to backup your save and avoid this kind of frustation

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gameboy/comments/4w8xjf/guide_how_to_backup_your_game_save_files/

I use the ED64 + Transfer Pak method

Happened to me for sure. Eastern Europe, most carts on the market were bootleg, with save batteries that died very quickly. I had no idea what caused it at the time, and just got used to it. GBA SP was a godsend because it finally let me beat games in one sitting. Spending a weekend beating a lengthy RPG in one sitting was comfy as fuck.

I even had a pirated Pokemon cart specifically, which had the entirety of Gen 1&2 on it.

>>4559441
Stadium games use flash memory for saves.

>>4555373
build your favorite teams as you get all 151 and save them to pokemon stadium.

or, option 2

buy an old gameshark or action replay, hit that lil button on top and click save state. That's what I had to do for pokemon gold when my sister threw my gbc in the pool and it killed the battery. I had to except that day/night cycle would never work , but with my gameshark save state I still played it.

>>4566334
wow I literally could only think of basic 90s ways of doing this when I posted just now... and this blows my mind. Yet another excuse to buy one of these. fuck.