/vr/ - Retro Games

Light Crusader a shit.

>>4564790
Light Crusader the shit.

Never played Landstalker, but loved Light Crusader back in the day. Treasure weirdness at its best.

>>4564787
But neither is Story of Thor

>>4564787
>Which deserves the title of best Megadrive action-RPG?

Wonder Boy in Monster World. But between those two, Light Crusader for sure.

>>4564787

Landstalker is by far the best. Light crusader is average.

>>4565240

not even the best Wonder Boy title on the system

>>4565240
This or Ys 3. Maybe Popful Mail if you count Sega CD. I dunno what OP is doing.

>>4565240
>Wonder Boy in Monster World

Too short & too easy. Monster World IV was better in every conceivable way.

>>4564787
I really like how they really tried for a very "western fantasy" look for Light Crusader instead of the usual whimsical bandanna-and-gem-encrusted-armor brand of animeish fantasy. It makes the game stand out even though it still feels pretty japanese overall anyway

Soleil is way better.

>>4565279
Wrong

>>4565332
Gamergaterer detected

>>4565334
Not an argument

>>4565352

Its one of the shortest wonderboy games, it was fun but lacked depth compared to dragons trap or IV. Also none of the wonderboy/monster world series are really action RPG's at all, they have upgradable gear but thats really the only RPG element.

>>4564787
Light Crusader is far more dungeon-focused and feels a lot like those isometric games from the 8 bit era in its structure. Landstalker is fucking huge and far more rpglike, with storyline, town-to-town gameplay, and more of a spatial aspect to its puzzles and more emphasis on jumping.

Depends what kind of rpg you like - delving through sprawling endless dungeon, or fun anime-inspired trip around a continent.

Tldr just play Crusader of Centy.

I not a big fan of either. Beyond Oasis is more fun,

The one true answer.

>>4565732
Best

>>4565732
>>4565736
> not even japanese-developed

Yah I dont think so

>>4565790
So?

>>4565191
This is the correct answer. This was way better than either of OPs games.

However, if we have to choose between those two only, then Landstalker. Light Crusader is really not very good.

>>4565732
Wow, Knuckle is actually right for once. This game is fucking amazing, an open world sandbox action RPG that is basically the best representation of the tabletop game you could get on a Genesis. This is the correct answer.

Landstalker is the best

Landstalker is the easy win here

Crusader of Centy. Checkmate!

>>4566889
this. better than lttp.

Landstalker has depth perception issues in the platforming due to no shadows but unlike Light Crusader at least I can actually reliably hit enemies.

Light Crusader is a hitbox nightmare. Any time I've tried playing it it's an awful experience.

>>4565294

Agreed.

>>4564787
>>4564790

LC is really more a puzzle dungeob game than an action RPG. I think it's a large part of the shit it gets.

I like Landstalker so much. Still mad that PSP remake never come to be. They showed 3D maps and rearranged music, I wonder why no one in the industry never wanted to follow this history to know what was going on.
I wish we could get an update/mod/remaster kinda like what happened with Sonic 3D Blast DX recently. Sure there may be a lot of programming barriers but it would be so good if this game had shadows, better controls and some other minor fixes.

Landstalker is especially good if you're into the Shining Force games because the look and sound of it is very reminiscent of them.

>>4567368
>I wish we could get an update/mod/remaster kinda like what happened with Sonic 3D Blast DX recently.

the guy who lead the climax dev team creating/making landstalker is dead. There wont ever be a remake from the original creator.

>>4565375
If anything, IV is the shorter game. A tutorial segment, 4 dungeons, a castle variant and a boss rush... wut. It was linear as fuck too. Didn't even have a seaside level and a separate protagonist and lots of weapon variation were scrapped because of cartridge costs, leaving just the basic Zelda 2 moveset and situational Pepe actions. With that art, it could have been so much more given proper funding.

Dragon's Trap and III had a bigger scope for their world in comparison, more moves, more metroidvania... They lacked IV polish and graphics but they more than made up for it in content, secrets and exploration (pygmy rooms, hidden doors, later abilities unlocking stuff way early in the game if you bother looking, etc) and IV had none of that.

Man the Genesis had so many great action RPGs

>>4567434
I imagined the original makers wouldn't be around anymore, the Sonic case was more of an example of what an upgraded but faithful version should be. I don't understand a thing about rom hacking or programming to know what is possible but I know that there's a lot of passionate hackers out there that do wonders to some games so I just hope someday someone gives this one some love.

>>4567469
For example?

>>4566892
Holy fuck, this is delusional contrarianism at its finest.

>>4565279
Doubly wrong. Prob likes MW4 cuz of its unlocalized cred and waifu

>>4567460
Agreed, MW4 is the worst in the series. Only waifufags and graphics whores consider that game to be the best.

>>4567843
>Agreed, MW4 is the worst in the series.
Not even close.
WB1 is archaic and bare bones.
The Arcade shooter is pretty at times but sucks balls.
MW1 (Land) is a joyless slog with that timer and maze level in the end.
Some of the ports are a practical joke. SG-1001 WB is more torture device than game.

>>4567469
Such as...

>>4568204
WB1 and Monster Lair aren't Monster World games, also you have to git gud and learn where the secret items are in Monster Land to fully enjoy that game. It is a masterpiece in game design.

>>4567623
>>4568207
Shining Force
Phantasy Star
Both games in OP
Shadowrun
the one which you are a wizard and blow shit up, i can't remember the name

>>4567623
>>4568207
The ones already posted in this thread you numpties:
Crusader of Centy
The Immortal
Landstalker
Light Crusader
Beyond Oasis
Wonderboy in monster world
Monster World IV


>>4568316
Phantasy star is a turn based RPG, as is Shining force. I said ACTION RPGs.

>>4566626
Good pic!!

>>4568204
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair is a pretty good game on the Sega Mega Drive, and for me, better than the arcade version (better music, better lenght, better sprites...). Very fun game in cooperative mode.

>>4568952
There's some nice official Landstalker art around, I'm not sure where it comes from. (Japanese manual perhaps)