/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4560872
Those garbage consoles will NEVER EVER be allowed here, sixth-gen shitter.

Now fuck off back to /v/.

it's twenty eight fucking teen and yet somehow 11 or so year old consoles don't qualify.

Mods are too busy masturbating over atari dragster to recognise these things have collectors markets now just like any other "retro" console.

>>4560875
Please look deep within your heart and reconsider...

/v/ just laughs at us and calls us old, /vr/ still laughs at us and calls us babies... We are in limbo... Please give us refuge on this wonderful board...

>>4560875
It's newfags like you that give this board a bad name.

>>4560878
i thought the line was drawn around the year 2000, doesn't change

>>4560885

The line is arbitrary and nobody pretends otherwise.

>>4560881
You can go to 8ch*n's /vr/, they allow all the gen6 systems over there.

>>4560882
Try again, kiddo. Been here since the board was created.

>>4560893
Ah so it's a /b/tard newfag lying with secret club shit.
Door is right there.

>>4560887
well yea but just cause it's arbitrary doesn't mean it has to change. ad and bc is an arbitrary line but we don't change it

>>4560885
>>4560887
>>4560895
Most Dreamcast stuff in here is 2000 or even newer before it died.
It's arbitrary. If it's two generations older+ it's retro since its only collectors/second hand selling at that point. A retro shop would sell these things.

>>4560894
Stay upset /vr/ will never get ruined by including PS2, Xbox, Cube and GBA, my dude.

>>4560895

Anon, no, the calender has several objective elements to it, the actual split between BC and AD doesn't mean anything. It does here.

The line between what's retro and what's not is arbitrary because it's personal to the group that browses this board. During the end of sixth gen you would see lots of people on the net talk about fifth gen as though it was becoming retro, something unheard of a few years earlier.

The line in question is never going to be set in stone.

>>4560904
Would only be the ps2 at the moment going by the arbitrary line of the dreamcast inclusion. The shitbox, gcn and gba were later.

If the PS2 is allowed, do we get to talk about Fifa 2014?

ask hiro for /v2k/
we don't want you here

>>4560915

Who's we?

You don't talk for us.

>>4560872
fuck this board it lets dreamcast but somehow the trio in OP's pic are banned

>>4560881
Has the OG xbox dev kit ever been dumped? Apparently lack of documentation/hardware is the reason that xbox emulation stalled and never got off the ground all these years.

>>4560916
yes I do kid

>>4560920

Clearly you don't.

If you don't like it I guess you can leave.

>>4560918
Because Dreamcast was released in the '90s. It's not that hard to understand.

>>4560919
No but someone is making progress

Last time I checked panzer dragoon was running at 5 FPS

>>4560919

It's a PC running a version of Windows CE. The reason there's no emulators for it is abject lack of interest.

>>4560924
Clearly I do

If you don't like it you can go back to /v/

>>4560929

Oh wow, the best you can do is repeat what someone says

I...I just want to talk about my fav OG Xbox games :(

>>4560934
I just enjoy seeing you 6th gen babbies whine and cry
why don't you mongoloids want /v2k/ again?

>>4560938
wow, so fucking retro it hurts
totally has nothing to do with modern gayming

>>4560939

You are whining and crying a shitload. Also you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Sixth gen should be here because it belongs here, there is no reason for an additional board when the subject is clearly covered by an existing one, /vr/.

>>4560941
Don't be upset, anon. Have some more webms :)

>>4560943
6th gen has nothing to do with retro gaming
sorry you can't discuss your childhood and are too stupid to ask for a board for yourself

>>4560949

My childhood was the NES and Genesis, again, you do not speak for anyone but yourself.

>6th gen has nothing to do with retro gaming

Yes it does, because it is retro. It's too old to be modern and that means it falls under retro.

>>4560872
Preferably no. Mak a /v2k/ board for it. There's a big split in game design from 1999 and prior to the game design that came up in the 00's. Things changed in a major way when overall design left the arcade influence. Most games talked about on this board have something in common from previous gaming standards. When the PS2, Xbox, and GameCube came out, those standards were being thrown in the trash and a new set of standards were created. The games were extremely different. I don't want to talk about these. I'd much rather they went elsewhere. Leave me here with my arcades and other stuffs.

>>4560952
being old has nothing to do with being retro
gaming hasn't changed much since 6th gen and that's why it's not allowed here
retro is pre-internet gaming

>>4560951
Looks like it could pass as a 2018 game.

How the fuck is THAT retro?

>>4560954
this is just like an atari game

>>4560925
its a 6th gen console

>>4560958

Nah, you're talking about fifth gen there, sixth gen was just more polished, analogous to the third gen to fourth gen jump.

Online wasn't that successful during sixth gen anyway outside of a few exceptions like Halo 2. Online itself is retro in the first place, all of the devs focusing on online console games were making online PC games in the 90s.

>>4560970
Generations don't exist.

>>4560972
Even in 5th Gen, there were still plenty of games that had arcade standards in them. Take Quake and Doom as examples. After you finish the level, it may not grade your performance outright, but it gives you some metrics to work with to show you how good or bad you did. Even down to games like Crash Bandicoot. Did it really matter how many of those fruits you collected? Only if you were trying to score. SM64 still had arcade elements packed into it with it's life mechanics.

You are correct, 5th gen was the one that started getting away from arcade standards, but it was still a heavy influence. Beginning of 6th Gen, that architecture was still there in some games, but it wasn't long until 6th Gen pretty much dropped those standards entirely and took gaming in a whole new direction.

>>4560978

Good luck with that.

It's quite simple. It's not an issue of what IS and ISN'T old. It's an issue of what the board wants to talk about. If you want to talk about that generation of systems then either create your own board or shut up.

>>4560979

Someday you're going to realize that you're handwaving with really general terms that you're not able to define.

The only aspect of Doom and Quake is it shares with arcade games is the high speed of the games, which is not a property specific to arcades, it's just one popular in arcades.

>>4560990
Someday you're going to realize that 6th gen isn't retro just because it was a part of your childhood LMAO

>>4560995
>Someday you're going to realize that 6th gen isn't retro

Except that it is. Because retro games is just old games, which sixth gen is.

>>4560915
This. If you have a need that the current boards don't fulfill, request a new board be made, don't ruin existing boards. Frankly, it's a good litmus test to weed out who's only here for shitposting. Those of you who want /v2k/ actually want a place to discuss sixth gen, those refusing it and demanding /vr/ get ruined are just here to shitpost.

>>4560998
This board's definition of retro is any hardware released before the year 2000. Sucks your favorite console wasn't released before then, but there's nothing you can do about it here. Go cry to gookmoot for your own board or deal with the shitty state of /v/, I don't really care.

>>4560872
>/v/ allows newer generations to be discussed
>older generations of games can no longer last on the catalog and fall off
>/vr/ gets created as a safe haven for people to discuss older generations of games
>retard from /v/ comes to /vr/ demanding to allow newer generations to be discussed
>older generations of games can no longer last on the catalog and fall off
>/vr2.0/ gets created as a safe haven for people to discuss older generations of games
>retard from /vr/ comes to /vr2.0/ demanding to allow newer generations to be discussed
>older generations of games can no longer last on the catalog and fall off

Or just bypass ruining existing boards and have your own made.

>>4561001

No, anon, the way boards work is they have a subject and discussion follows that subject. /vr/'s subject is old video games.

The real litmus test is whether you consider the board your personal club that belongs to you for your personal reasons. If you think a board belongs to your world view rather than the subject of the board, then you are the shitposter.

>>4561007
>This board's definition of retro is any hardware released before the year 2000.
Which can and should be changed.
>but there's nothing you can do about it here.
Sure we can, we can bring up the subject.

Here's a better question, how come you guys can't argue the point? The best you can do is complain about people existing on a board which isn't about people, it's about old video games. You're doing what /v/ does.

Neither Kingdom Hearts, GTA San Andreas or MGS3 feel retro to me.

>>4561017
>Which can and should be changed.
kek, nice "argument" you got there faglord
we know if 6th gen was allowed this board would be flooded with you shits and all other discussion would become next to impossible, and that's why you're staying out

>>4561027

Yes that is a good argument, because it's true.

Let me guess, Mr "discussion", you're >>4560929, right?

>>4561017
>Which can and should be changed.
Good luck, now that moot's gone this board is stuck this way till 4chan dies.

>Sure we can, we can bring up the subject.
All meta discussions belong on /qa/, so fuck off.

>>4561025
they aren't, OP is just butthurt because /v/ doesn't give a shit about them anymore
of course he doesn't mind ruining this board because he doesn't give a shit about anything that came before 6th gen anyway

>>4561017
The point was already made. This board was created because 6th gen+ monopolize conversation to the point that retro games (as defined by the board) couldn't be discussed on /v/. Now you're demanding that we ruin the entire point of the board by allowing post-internet modern games into the list. It's difficult enough now for NES, Atari and older systems than 5th gen to get any traction here as it is without you pushing in a million World of Warcraft, Halo, Counter Strike, Smash Brothers Melee, The Sims, Final Fantasy XI, GTA: 3/San Andreas, Kingdom Hearts, God of War, Guitar Hero, Fable, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime and every other 6th gen game that will absolutely suck focus away from retro games.

There's more than enough material there for you to have a /v2k/ board. You'd get what you'd want- a place to discuss 6th gen and be happy, we'd get what we want- a place to discuss retro and be happy.

>>4561038
>World of Warcraft, Halo, Counter Strike, Smash Brothers Melee, The Sims, Final Fantasy XI, GTA: 3/San Andreas, Kingdom Hearts, God of War, Guitar Hero, Fable, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime
You forget about the PC games that would suddenly become "retro". A World of Warcraft general on /vr/. Might as well shut the board down.

>>4561030
Yeah, I don't hold discussions with whiny brats who keep shitposting by making the same thread here over and over, even though it belongs on /qa/

>>4560990
>>4560995 isn't me. But it's pretty obvious you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing at this point. Saying I can't define something when I've given you examples shows a lack of effort on your part. Have fun with your lack of conversation.

>>4561032

Nah, things can still change, and it's not like moot ever did anything except through massive external pressure just like in this scenario.

>>4561038

The point that has been made so far is retards like >>4561027 who can't talk about sixth gen without getting mad.

>This board was created because 6th gen+ monopolize conversation to the point that retro games (as defined by the board) couldn't be discussed on /v/.
And now that time has moved forward, /v/ is seventh gen+ meaning that it's time for sixth gen to come to /vr/. This is natural and makes sense, a board split for your personal reasons makes no sense. If you claim to like old games but not some old games, you better come up with a reason they shouldn't be on the board that's better than "I don't like it".

>>4561045
Based on what? /vr/ talks about a lot more than just PC games, last I checked.