/vr/ - Retro Games

Why are Amiga threads so absolutely terrible?

>>4555071
Because Amigas were piece of shit Yuropoorputers with shit games that, for some reason, are worshiped by 52 year old manbabies that grew up with them and the best thing they can do is ramble on and on about some random, retarded, NES-tier game that nobody gives a fuck about.

>>4555071
Because this guy >>4555079 is allowed to continuously shitpost until the thread is entirely derailed, mostly.

>>4555079
There was a time when Amiga games looked and sounded better than the same game on IBM compatibles. By the early 1990s IBMs pulled ahead.

>>4555083

>>4555079
The /v/ in this post is strong...

>>4555079
>Because Amigas were piece of shit Yuropoorputers
It was designed in the US and sold by an American-based company (Commodore).

>>4555090
>haha /v/ guys, /v/ and stuff, haha don't you just hate /v/, you're not a 52 year old faggot like me
Shut the fuck up and go play lemmings retard.

>>4555094
>implying this makes it less of a Yuropoorputer when Yuropoors are the only ones that used it

>>4555079
Imagine being this butthurt. <3

>>4555071
Shitposter mostly. Just like yourself.

>>4555114
Lol what am I butthurt about? Not being a 52 year old manbaby with an Amiga? Stay mad fagoid.

Where can I find one of these bad boys without getting myself broke immediately. I live in the Netherlands, if that helps.

Amigas are the best computers.

Stay triggered, IBM-PCfags.

>>4555138
England. I regularly rage at how cheap CD32s are in England but shipping to the US is either unavailable or nearly doubles the price (but still is cheaper than buying one here)

>had a souped up Amiga 500+ with all the fixings
>monitor
>three external floppy drives
>a carton full of controllers, joysticks, trackballs and mice
>8 high quality floppy disc storage boxes
>about 2000 copied discs with games and some programs
>about 70 originals in original box, mostly complete and with old price tag on them
>sold it all on eBay for 200 bucks

>>4555147
Are you a time traveler from 1988?

>>4555085
I'm an Amerifat. What Amiga games were better overall or had better graphics than their MSDOS counterpart?

>>4555240
Microprose games definitely.

>>4555123
>implying anyone here is 52
The butthurt is priceless.

>>4555257
Wait, why are you giving him (Yous)?

>>4555138
Germany? Also I open the NL local eBay and I can see shitloads for cheap.

Just get a 1200, don't bother with a 500.

>>4555240
Almost all from that particular period.

>>4555258
Because I'm not a monster, I don't want him to suffer just because he was born this way.

>>4555260
>Almost all from that particular period

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDgt26Zcio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrhH9pb8XlU

Not so sure about that one.

>>4555270
Ware you implying that the IBM PC versions are better? Lol.
Go back to your Nintendobaby daycare center.

>>4555270
Are you implying that the IBM PC versions are better? Lol.
Go back to your Nintendobaby daycare center.

>>4555279
I don't know anything about DD on the PC, but Sierra's Amiga releases were phoned-in garbage. They really didn't care about anything but PC and Apple hardware.

>>4555282
Just because a game is not better on one platform, does not mean it's garbage. Those games even supported the MT-32 on the Amiga.

>>4555282
If you want to be anal about it (Sierra games), unless you had a PC with VGA, CD-ROM, sound card and a MIDI module, you where far better off on the Amiga playing it and trust me, rarely you had all that in '88 in a PC, unless your parents where above middle class and your summer job wouldn't even get you close to getting them either.

>>4555282
maybe you're thinking of re-releases/latter versions for PC
those don't count, else we would be talking about Doom on the Amiga too but that was much latter

>>4555292
Sierra had sound card support since KQ4, in fact they were one of the very earliest devs to support it.

>>4555292
You really weren't though considering those Amiga Sierra ports didn't bother properly supporting the hardware. There's not much point when you still have 16 colors and bleeper sound.

>>4555423
Indeed, but they weren't really worse, especially with MIDI options.

>>4555019
um sorry sweetie, at least you tried :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlaJKcW3Ngo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGk_2fGCU-U

Bubble Bobble on the PC and Amiga. They're both pretty equal all things considered with the Amiga having slightly worse music (too much arpeggio).

>>4555452
The ST was a pile of shit.

>>4555506
In Germany, we used them as office computers. until the Internet age, I don't think most people here were even aware that the ST had a gaming scene.

>>4555019
Commodore should have standardized a controller with more buttons much earlier than the CD32, the fact that most joysticks for it only had a single button stunted a lot of games. The CD32 controller had 7 independent buttons, so it should be possible to have that many buttons without breaking support in any way with the old Atari standard. The Atari ST Falcon had a port for Jaguar controllers.

>>4555452
I don't even know any Atari fanboy from back then that still thinks the Amiga wasn't better in every way. Even MIDI these days. In purely hardware and games content.

>>4555501
The Japanese almost always and some cheap American developers never took advantage of the hardware and just made straight ports.

>>4555516
Yes, even the Amiga 500 can play OSC/ECS CD32 games with the CD32 controller without problems, utilizing all buttons.

>>4555570
That Amiga Bubble Bobble was done by UK-based Software Creations, it wasn't an American dev.

>>4555579
Yes and their speciality was porting Nintendo games to home microcomputers on the cheap.

>>4555589
>Yes and their speciality was porting Nintendo games to
It's a Taito arcade game.

The IBM port of Bubble Bobble was done by Novalogic, not a terrible dev I might add, they did Wolfpack which was a very nice WWII submarine sim for its time.

>>4555594
It was also a game on the NES and I already said, Japanese games almost always had ports that didn't take advantage of the hardware. Mostly cheap ports done quickly for a quick buck.

>>4555596
>The IBM port of Bubble Bobble was done by Novalogic, not a terrible dev I might add

Uh huh. Yeah. PC ports of arcade games at that time were done by US devs because Europeans didn't code games on PC compatibles until the Windows 3.x era. Anything on the Atari ST or Commodore machines was virtually always done by a European dev and just converted to NTSC for the North American market.

It's a bit funny, but the NES version of BB, which Taito did in-house, isn't terribly well programmed, actually it has horrendous flicker.

The C64 Bubble Bobble was ported by Firebird, another UK dev. I hate the music in that port, it's absolutely ear-splitting.

>>4555596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iSMmA5ynk

Novalogic also did the Apple II port (bet you didn't know there was an Apple II Bubble Bobble)

>>4555618
>(bet you didn't know there was an Apple II Bubble Bobble)
Anyone who owned a Apple II knows that
Every retro hipster should own a Apple II

>>4555623
>Anyone who owned a Apple II knows that

So, the Apple II your father used at the office to work out the company payroll? Seriously, that's the only place in the UK one ever encountered the things.

>>4555625
These days you can buy one off ebay for pennies

>>4555629
I hear they don't display any colour on PAL monitors/TVs. Also even if you had an Apple II here in Britain, there would be no games for it anyway, just office software.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etfOk0USzdc

Oh, and Wolfpack on the Amiga for those who think Americans couldn't code games for it.

>>4555638
>Oh, and Wolfpack on the Amiga for those who think Americans couldn't code games for it.
American games were expensive imports in the UK although in general the quality was much above our homegrown rubbish.

>>4555501
Bubble Bobble on amiga was a shitty port of the ST version.

>>4555684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urDOJsWzBhQ

I don't think the ST port is really any better and it also has that obnoxious arpeggio music. The PC Adlib music sounds so much nicer.

>>4555695
>>4555610
>>4555501
That sound you're referring to (the bathtub gargle thing) was very common in European vidya music at that time. I'm not sure what the reason for it was.

>>4555282
LucasArts had crap-tier Amiga ports as well.

>>4555636
My IIc displays colors in games via composite artifacting fine on a standard old PAL monitor with composite in.

>>4555703
Define crap-tier, because they where just as shit as on the other platforms of the time.

>>4555695
>>4555610
>>4555501
What? That's mostly the same music that the original arcade game had. The arpeggio kind of music you hear through the game.

The best thing about the Amiga was the Demo Scene, the music and the Deluxe Paint 2 artwork.
The great games mostly have comparable or superior ports on the IBM once the 90s hit.

That said I have a lot more understanding for Amiga nostalgiafaggotry than I do the Speccy brit ones.

>>4555732
>The great games mostly have comparable or superior ports on the IBM once the 90s hit.
Great games as in PC's great games, like always mentioned Doom, not Amigas own great games or multiplats. Amiga still got solid games in the early 90's, like I'd much rather play Worms on an Amiga instead of the DOS version or still play Gloom or Breathless on the Amiga while playing Doom or Rise of the Triad on a DOS PC. Specially if they are native AGA.

>>4555720
The arcade game really doesn't have arpeggios as pronounced as those computer ports though.

>>4555772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5o4ReqhcaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMvuZHi9Mbw

The Amiga version is missing a lot of graphical effects on the PC port.

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