/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4554710
Why do people still act like this? It's fucking surreal.

>>4554710
Saturn version still has the extra stuff that the PSP version don't, but yeah PSP SOTN is better than PS version.

>>4554721
except that it replaced the camp, dramatic dialogue with bland, lifeless bullshit

>>4554721

Given the quality of the extra Saturn content, I really don't see it as a loss. The new areas were all terrible with boring layouts and terrible artwork.

>>4554738
>implying I care about that meme voice acting when it has the original japanese with subtitles

>>4554746
Yeah but it's still exclusive to the Saturn version. Also it's not only the new areas, it also has a few extra music tracks, a few extra items, and one extra equip button.
But still, yeah, I think the PSP version is the definitive version of SOTN, since it has more content than the PS original, and doesn't have performance problems like the Saturn version.

>>4554710
I still want the Saturn SOTN because I remembered Maria's moveset was very different. She learned martial arts, which I think makes her more interesting than her keeping the same moves from her childhood, as if she actually grew up. In this version, she retains her animal tossing ways of her loli past.

>>4554752
I actually prefer Maria's classic Rondo moveset. Seeing all those animals re-worked in SOTN-style spritework was great.
Also, I love dashing with L and R.
Oh yeah, and Dark Maria

>>4554710
The remake itself sucked but the overall package was great. In fact, the PSP was fucking fantastic when it came to cheap and convenient retro collections.

>>4554816
It didn't suck, it just isn't the same as the original, and I do prefer 2D sprites over 3D, but the backgrounds on the remake have a lot more detail than the original game (which is often composed of black background, generic brick walls, etc).
Best thing about the remake is Dracula's new final form (which is actually a bit challenging), and the boss rush mode. Also, stage 5B is much better designed (not only visually, but overall, the layout and structure of the level is more thought out).
Also has a couple new bosses.

>>4554821
I thought the the background looked gaudy, the animations a bit uncanny and the 2.5D style didn't really mesh well. Also playing both the main stage and the alternate stage back to back with both Richter and Maria kinda ruins the fun of unlocking those things.

>>4554829
I like how the backgrounds have a depth to them, and as I said, are often very detailed. Sure, I agree about the animations and 2.5D style not being better than the original, but I wouldn't say it sucks either.
>Also playing both the main stage and the alternate stage back to back with both Richter and Maria kinda ruins the fun of unlocking those things.
What do you mean? unlocking Maria works the same way as on the original.
Playing with Maria is more fun now because there's more secret areas only she can access to.

I Am The Wind or Mournful Serenade?
The later is the new ending piece that Michiru Yamane composed for the PSP version since I guess they couldn't use IATW due to copyright or something.
IMO it's better, it fits the mood of SOTN better than IATW which is an R&B song, which I guess was popular at the time, reminds me of The End of Evangelion's "Thanatos". Ideally I would have liked to have both songs on the PSP, but Mournful is a really good ending theme.

>replacing the shitty voice acting from the ps1 release with new BORING voice acting?

/vr/ ill needs a poster such as you

>>4554747
>complains about meme acting
>posts the biggest meme actor there is

>>4554917
RRRLRLRLLLRRLRLRLLLRLRL.mp3

>>4554917
Post a voocaroo of your voice so I can raugh, kid.

>>4554937
Not him but https://vocaroo.com/i/s1YTjwkWjP1J

SotN's original voice acting is underrated as fuck desu, Drac and Death are legitimately great and Alucard's alright. Maria and Richter are the only really bad performances.

>>4555017
It's better than Docta Waweeh

>>4554950
lol, saludos amigo español

>>4554746
Nice damage control, Sonyshitter. The new areas are just as boringly laid out as the rest of that shit game. The only thing that matters is PSP's Maria mode blows whereas she's actually as good as Richter/Alucard in the Saturn version. Oh, and Alucard can use Eric Lecarde's spear as well.

Suck it down, bitch.

>>4555163
Maria on PSP is also really good and actually stronger than Richter or Alucard (depending on what you have equiped)

>>4555185
Nah, PSP Maria is actually the weakest character. She is completely worthless without farming a bunch of hearts and has gimped movement. Not my idea of fun when bosses take forever to kill because your birds do shit all damage and her animal abilities aren't based on mana anymore (nor are they as useful).

>>4554710
I love DXC but I still think you're a faggot. Keep your consolewars shit on /v/.

>>4555205
Let's be real, SOTN isn't balanced toward Richter and Maria. Some bosses take a million hits to kill so you just use hydro storn to kill them with richter, or the dragon with Maria.
PSP Maria is still fun because of her dash, she is faster than Saturn Maria.
Both are interesting though, but again, SOTN isn't a game balanced toward those characters. It's just nice to have them as little extras, but that's it. It's not really all that much fun to play through the game with them.

>>4554747
Listing him as Raoh is straight up lie, he only voiced two Raoh lines in a single flashback in a single episode. Kenji Utsumi was Raoh's actual VA.

>>4555225
>Let's be real, SOTN isn't balanced toward Richter and Maria. Some bosses take a million hits to kill so you just use hydro storn to kill them with richter, or the dragon with Maria.
SotN is fun if you play it like a boss rush speedgame, but playing it as a Metroid where you look for items and upgrades is just boring desu.

>PSP Maria is still fun because of her dash, she is faster than Saturn Maria.
Not really, her superjump is faster than PSP Maria's owl, combined with her diagonal kick it's faster than L/R dashing on PSP. Plus the kicks are just cooler to play with than dashing.

>>4554747
>No Victoream
ShamefuRRLRLRLRLRLRRLu

>>4555230
>SotN is fun if you play it like a boss rush speedgame
I don't think so, the game doesn't really have all that much platforming action, and bosses are damage sponges because they're meant to be fought with Alucard.
>combined with her diagonal kick it's faster than L/R dashing on PSP
Maybe, I'd have to check both back to back, but Maria's normal walking speed seems faster on PSP. Anyway I like the dashing and how you can dash mid-air, not saying Saturn Maria is bad, I just think PSP doesn't suck as you say.

>>4554710
>shitty remake
Into the trash it goes

>>4555265
>Remake includes unlockable original game and it's sequel.

I wish all remakes were this shitty.

Saturn version is best. The extra content is really fun, especially the double tap running which singlehandlely makes the reverse castle twice as fun; but also the new weapons and their special moves.

>>4555276
but muh performance issues

s-sony always wins b-baby

psp rondo is fucking garbage and is worse than not playing it at all
it has the best sotn version but you have to emulate if you don't want to play on a tiny handheld screen, ps1 sotn is better if you want original hardware
saturn sotn is for hipster faggots who are willing to trade visuals and preformance for a few awful extra areas

>>4555308
>ps1 sotn is better if you want original hardware
xbla is better for vanilla sotn

>saturn sotn is for hipster faggots who are willing to trade visuals and preformance for a few awful extra areas and items and music and boss fights
sour_grapes.jpg

>not playing PSX SotN with the patch that removes the black borders and makes the game proper fullscreen
Enjoy your tiny screen.

it feels like sotn saturn haters haven't actually played it.
like yeah the jail area sucks but the one under the starting point is nice.
the best saturn exclusive is the ability to run as a powerup so you're not backdashing forever.

also keep in mind all that the psp version did was add a new maria, add in the missing familiars (they were always jap only), and change the english voice acting/script.
the biggest psp change is it gets the new ability to crash at random.
the ps3/360 ports are also prone to crashing.

>>4555334
this also removes the methods to keep your starting equipment unfortunately

>>4554738
bullshit, everyone except yuri lowenthall alucard was great.
patrick seitz is my favorite dracula voice to this day, if castlevania wasn't dead, he'd probably still be doing him.

Am I the only one that prefers most of the handheld IGAvanias to SotN?

>>4555451
Nope, the same here. If you vale a bit of not self-imposed challenge then it's not so weird.

>>4555364
>the biggest psp change is it gets the new ability to crash at random.
I played a LOT of hours of SOTN on PSP and never happened to me, source?

IMO it's
PSP>Saturn>PS

>>4555724

>>4555757
I guess I'm lucky my copy works fine.

>>4555757
that's never happened to me funny enough.
then again i let my friend borrow my umd and just play an iso

In my opinion the Saturn version had the best controls.

>>4554747
Fixed your image with a character who voiced for more than one second.

>>4554710
bait

>>4555302
Am I gonna have to take a picture of whatever console belongs to the game I'm not a fan of now just to avoid this kind of response? Is this really what /vr/ is going to be dragged down to?

nigger

>>4554917
>Shitting on Wakamoto

I've never hitted a kid before.

>>4556550
>still no Victoream

>>4555451
Aria is the best hands down, it's the best executed igavania, And one of the best looking and sounding gba games

>>4555451
The GBA ones, sure.

>>4555276
>those non-integer artifacts

lmao

>>4555451
No, SotN has the best style, best graphics, best sound, best musics, best animations, etc

But all 6 GBA and DS ones have more solid gameplay. They're all more balanced, although CoM and HoD can easily be broken (the cross is OP as fuck in both, you can rape the entire 2 games with it without breaking a sweat).

I've been replaying all 6 handled ones lately, I used to think they all have their pros&cons but now I tend to think AoS and DoS are the bests, the most balanced, especially when played on Hard. On Hard the game is well balanced and drops (items and souls) are more likely so there is less boring grinding.

>>4556967
>No, SotN has the best style, best graphics, best sound, best musics, best animations, etc
None of that is game mechanic related. That's the point. I don't know how you can prefer a game just for the aesthetics when admitting the others have better game mechanics.

>>4556643
>shitting on
Nah, Wakamoto's great but when you start getting cast in comedies as a joke meme actor status is undeniable.

>>4557225
I was agreeing here, as in "No, you're not the only one."

>>4557281
Ok, I get you now, sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>4557247
So, what's your own definition of "meme"?

>>4554871
I always take issue with people calling it shit. Castlevania has always been about camp. It's about fighting 1930s movie monsters.
The dialogue perfectly fits the tone of the game.
Fuck the redubbing.

>>4557619
>comparing shitty voice actors from the 90s to god-tier Bela Lugosi or Boris Karloff

Japanese original VA or burst

>>4557626
Maybe you haven't watched other horror movies from that era but whew there is some exquisitely bad acting.

>>4557619
The NES Castlevania games and IV, sure, they have an old classic 30s horror film vibe.
But SOTN is more like vampire hunter D: the video game.

>>4557656
>The NES Castlevania games and IV

The absolute state of Nintendon'ts.

>>4557797
I would personally go with Nintendolt's if I was going to be a dick.

>>4554710
>Replacing the cheezy, beloved dub with a new, boring one
>Lacking content from Saturn version

>>4557797
Oh, sorry, did I trigger your console war ass?
Vampire Killer on MSX and Akumajou Dracula on the Sharp X68000 could also be considered to have a 1930s monster movie vibe too, sure. Also Haunted Castle.
But Rondo, Bloodlines, and especially SOTN is when it went for a more different approach, more inspired by anime aesthetics.
Not that that's a bad thing though, I just don't think SOTN has a classic monster movie feel, as CV1 does (or Vampire Killer on MSX; if you're going to be anal about nintendo again)

>>4558221
>>Replacing the cheezy, beloved dub with a new, boring one
Who cares about dubs, PSP SOTN has the original japanese voice acting with english subs.
>Lacking content from Saturn version
But at least it has the japan-exclusive content that was cut from the western SOTN release on PS1.

>>4554710
I really don't like how they made Alucard sound like Sasuke.

So I decided to play the PSP version in Luck mode even though the lack of Saturn content will be thoroughly missed

I got a Hide Cuirass drop from a Stone Rose enemies, which according to FAQ isn't supposed to have one.... I don't recall Luck mode changing the drops, so does the PSP version have different drops?

>luck mode
>wearing 2 arcana rings
>+ using luck potions
>100+ Cloaked Knights killed later on
>still no heaven sword

fuck you game

>>4555017
>yfw Dracula and Harry Mason are voiced by the same guy