/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4540082
5 cents have been deposited into your account.

Every day is repost day

>>4540082
>frying your console
Do brainlets actually believe this

>>4540082
FUCK OFF!

>>4540082
you've forgot the link of your ebay store

I play almost all of my retro games from flash carts. I'm in the process of selling off all of my old games since I don't need all these hunks of plastic anymore, and autists like OP will pay me premium prices for them.

Thanks for helping me pay off my student loans! It'll be nice to be debt free.

>>4540102
>pay off my student loans! It'll be nice to be debt free.
How many carts do you have man

>>4540106
I had about 200 carts when I started selling everything off, and had a lot more than that at one point in time.

I stocked up on NES, SNES and Genesis games in the early and mid 2000s when the prices were super low, and also held onto everything from my childhood. I specifically remember my local EB Games store selling boxes full of NES games for $0.25-$0.99 a piece when they stopped stocking them in store. I was a teenager with a part time job and no responsibilities, so I bought them all. Turned out to be a wise investment.

>/vr/ unironically takes pride in stealing video games

When I can play everything I play nothing.

>>4540216
You can always play everything it's just a matter of relative effort

>>4540082
>ethical concerns over illegally stealing games from the internet
don't copy dat floppy, kids!

>>4540082
They're for idiots who can't emulate.

As for stealing, if a game is available for purchase new in some way then get it that way. If it isn't, then it's free to pirate. Paying for resold goods is never required.

>>4540206
Yeah, because buying them off some greasy fuck on ebay for twice-triple the MSRP is supporting the developer.

>>4540245
it's not about supporting the dev, it's about having a legal license (by physical ownership of the cart), which allows you to use the rom legally in the flashcart

>>4540338
In that case then yes you are correct /vr/ unironically takes pride in not doing that.

>>4540338
Supporting the dev is the only thing that matters because of morality. Owning a cart was never legal liscencing agreement.

>>4540082
>flashcarts
>frying your console
At least give a fucking source to this bullshit claim if you are going to keep these threads every day.

>>4540082
>Ethical Concerns
wheredoyouthinkweare.tif
>illegally stealing
Look up fair use

What's the alternative? Should I hope the copyright holder re-releases the game on a modern system? What about games with licensing problems like Diddy Kong Racing. I'd say repros are a much worse ethical problem. Knowingly buying counterfeit goods IS illegal. Roms are a necessary evil.

>>4540206
>10 Nintendo Points have been added to your account

>>4540082
Played a mega drve (or genesis) at the heart of gaming in croydon which had a ever drive plugged in. Played 2 games, sunset riders and gunstar heroes. Never played sunset but it seemed to play well but gunstar was really laggy 2 player. I own pal gunstar at home and that plays fine with 2 players. As i said not sure if the megadrive was 60 or 50hz.

>>4540648
Gunstar Heroes has always had slowdown, and it's always been worse in multiplayer. I doubt being played from an everdrive could cause any additional slowdown.

I only buy specific retro games I really want to play nowadays, so I feel more inclined to get those very few games instead of a flash cart. If it's too expensive or needs an English translation, I'd rather just emulate than risk messing up my original console at all.

>>4540082
>their reputation of frying your console
I've yet to see legitimate proof of an actual fried console from use of an Everdrive-style flashcart. I'd hardly call that a reputation.

In fact the only claim I've seen of fried consoles is the anecdotal "I have already heard from several friends that their NES consoles have died most likely due to their admittedly heavy use of cheap multicarts" in the db electronics scare-mongering article, and in any case it's referring to those cheap Chinese '150 in one' type cartridges.

So yeah I'm not particularly worried. If the problem was widespread we'd be hearing about it.

>illegally stealing games from the internet
The only way to play the games properly on their original hardware is either buy used carts or use flashcarts (I do both). Either way, neither the console manufacturers or original developers/publishers are making any money from this so I'm not concerned. Using flashcarts also allows you to avoid the ridiculously overpriced second-hand market.

>>4540082
Flashcarts are cheating. Buy your games legitimately or don't play at all. Don't like it? Stop being poor.

>>4540702
no

>>4540702
Thanks for your opinion Mr le happy eBay merchant.

>>4540245
How does it feel to be a morally bankrupt thief?

>>4540702
Eh, make me, faggot.

>>4540735
I feel a little richer, and comfy because I can load any ROM at any time without it taking space or waiting for it to arrive.

>>4540082
>frying your console

Doesn't happen unless you're using some shitty off brand chink shit, even then it's probably rare to the point of being statistically insignificant.

>ethical concerns over illegally stealing games from the internet

Ethics are subjective. Original studios/devs/companies aren't making money from used cartridge sales anyway. If you feel guilty and they do have some kind of modern distribution method, buy the game.

Luckily I didn't get too far into the plastic collecting meme before I got flash carts. I just kept my childhood games and some that I really liked and traded the rest to friends for consoles I didn't have.

Even if the meme of frying consoles was true (it's not) it would mostly be fixable by anyone with repair skill and most consoles are cheaper than rare/expensive games. Genesis for example: I can buy a genesis locally for $30 and it has the original box. I didn't because I already have 4 from random pickups for a few bucks over the years. They are a $20 console, even if you had to replace them once a year you would still come out ahead.

>>4540702
I'm not poor, I just have better things to spend my money on than spending hundreds of dollars on a hunk of 20 year old plastic. You don't get rich wasting your money on worthless garbage, anon.

>>4540361
tl;dr
Improper voltage is a genuine concern but a long term one. It's a matter of will my snes last 30 years or 20 years. This "flashcarts LITERALLY fry your console" is sensationalist fearmongering that doesn't even have a real agenda.

https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/

>>4540102
I’ve honestly considered just collecting cases and manuals instead of the games themselves since they’re the most artistic and nostalgic part of games except for the data itself, which - SURPRISE - is more conveniently on a flash cart and 99% of the time plays the same. They’re also likely more rare to boot.

>>4540082
>their reputation of frying your console
I think that's great. Bandwagoners will believe that consoles are more rare because so many have been fried and will be willing to pay an even higher premium for their hipster cred. The value of all those consoles I'm hoarding will skyrocket.

>>4540702
stop being a crybaby bitch

>>4540082
>ethical concerns
All of my games can be stored in boxes in the dark. My ed64 saves shelf space. My gamegenie saves my psx games from scratching. They have been a gift to my collection.

>>4540082
> their reputation of frying your console
25 years of dust on the motherboard is what fried those systems..

>>4540702
>1 Point has been deposited into your My Nintendo account

Good goy!

>>4541456
it's 2018, and racist, anti-semetic remarks like these are definitely NOT acceptable. Please think about what you've said and why it's wrong.

>>4540082
>ethical concerns over illegally stealing games from the internet?
Why are you here reddit?
>>4540702
>t. Collector Kike
>>4541457
Go back to tumblr nigger.

>>4540206
>>4540735
>>4540338
>he fell for the YOU DON'T OWN GAMES JUST THE LICENSE TO PLAY THEM meme
Wow what a fag.
>selling cartridges for a profit, which is never allowed per license for every game
>not sharing that profit with the original developers
I guess those second hand sellers of legit carts are thieves too, right?

>>4540232
>idiots who cant emulate
Its the best of both worlds

>obvious bait thread at 4AM PST, or 11PM in Australia

>>4541013
But that's not even true.
The part taking the load here is the 3.3v cart.

The console uses 5v. It will not, and cannot be damaged by a 3.3v component.
The cart most likely won't take any damage either, since most quality 3.3v parts are 5v tolerant.

>>4540082
illegally stealing ancient games? who fucking cares anymore?

>>4541013
I like how this meme is still going around

Most electronic components have a 20% tolerance. If you look at data sheets chips have a minimum voltage they will operate at and a max where they will stop.

Speaking of flash carts how good is the Revo K101+? Worth the $119 price tag?

I'm at a loss for words. It's very disappointing to see /vr/ support immoral actions like stealing.

emulating/pirating is fine once the game is no longer available from stores or online first-hand from the developer or publisher. once you're only dealing with second-hand copies you're wasting your time and none of the money goes to the developers anymore.

>>4541894
fuck forgot to turn names off from another thread my bad

>>4541745
>stealing is okay if it's old

>>4541930
>stealing

>>4540113
hey good for you man, sounds like a sweet deal if you're not into collecting.

how much have you earned from it atm?

>>4540082
I wish they were cheaper, fucking $70 extra just to be able to save without holding reset? Fuck me.

>paying for flashcarts when you can build a pi console for the same price or less

>>4542162
Finer things in life
You wouldnt understand

>>4540082
fuck off /v/ermins

>>4540082
>as well as the ethical concerns over illegally stealing games from the internet
but supporting professional counterfeiters and denying publishers compensation by purchasing repros is 'ethical'?

>>4542178
I would, because I'm not a dipshit that throws away money on scams like flashcarts, and thus can afford the finer things.

>All these unabashed pirates
This place is awful. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

It makes far more sense to me to prioritize my investment into consoles, console-addons, high-end CRTs, cables, switchboxes, arcade parts, controllers, flashcarts, etc than original cartridges, because all of those things have a bigger impact on the gaming experience than 99% of original carts would (the 1% being games which don't work on flashcarts..yet?).

>Why not buy both?

Because my money is limited, so any money I spend on games is money that I can no longer spend on everything else I mentioned. Perhaps one day I'll get my gaming hardware perfect and then finally I'll buy all the original cartridges to complete the setup, but probably not.

I have nothing against cart collectors though, so long as they actually play their games.

Nintendo's right to earn money for NES games ended when they released the SNES. You cannot dispute me on this.

Holy shit, who the hell cares about pirating a game that was released 30 years ago. The dev isn't making money, the company isn't making money, the only one making money is some greasy fuck on ebay. I am a filthy pirate, I'll tell you that. Sometimes I download shit just out of spite. Make good games and I'll buy them. Make your games available and I'll buy them. If I have to jump through hoops I'll just pirate them, path of least resistance and all.

>>4540082
Don't forget the virus it can give your hardware

>>4542339
Arrr, ye best be sailin' on home to Reddit, ye nancy boy,

>>4543457
the posts whinging about piracy are either resellers who want to price gouge you or nintoddlers

>>4542339
stay salty /v/ fags, no amount of shitposting will make other boards as shitty as yours.

>>4543545
WTF?! What virus?

>>4543753
It will install gentoo on your NES and overwrite the code on the lockout chip.

>>4543748
What? This board is way worse than /v/.

>>4543748
>/v/ shaming against piracy at all

What?

>>4543457
This is some serious mental gymnastics just to justify doing something immoral. Just admit that what you're doing is wrong and you don't care. Be a man, be honest.

>>4546331
Not him but I see nothing wrong with it. If a game is still available from the original developer or publisher in some way, then it's proper to buy it in that form.

Alternately if it's not available, I take the advice of Tim Schafer for his own products. Which is just pirate the game and then if you want to support the company buy a t-shirt or a newer game they made.

In the case where there's no way to buy the original and no way to support the developers then all bets are off.

>>4540082
It seems that OP hates fun apparently. From how I see it, people use flashcarts as a test to see what the systems are capable of. Or maybe just to have some fun. I don't think people should illegally sell roms, winners don't do that.

>>4546376
>I take the advice of Tim Schafer
But he's a cuck.