/vr/ - Retro Games

Played it for the first time on the Sega CD the other day. It's way too hard right out of the gate. I put it on easy mode, and I was able to get through the levels, but it still wasn't fun because I was getting hit constantly. Those fucking dogs just sit right on top of you, and there's no way to avoid them.

>>453847
Shiny games' hit detection takes some time to get used to. It really helps if you grew up with the Genesis Aladdin game and are already familiar with how their mechanics work.

I hope you're not actually playing that PAL version.

>>453889
PAL?

>>453847
What? They aren't impossible to avoid, stop spouting bullshit

Tried replaying it a few days ago, got to the underwater stage, then to the glass submarine part...

Fuck!

>>453867
This. Plus their games tend to have a trial and error factor to them not usually present in action platformers, but much of the fun to them is figuring out how to proceed and then breezing trough them when you've memorized it all.
Pic related, just as with the original I can almost play trough it blindfolded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emOHkdYOM9U

I prefer the SNES versions of 1/2 over the Genesis ones
Am I a bad person?

>>453897
50Hz crap.

>>453918
No, you just grew up with the SNES.

EWJ is one of those games that just doesn't seem as fun now as it did when I was a kid.

I still think that the graphics and animation were impressive as hell for the time though

>>453909

There are platforms you have to jump on where they just camp. Once they're on top of you, you just continually take damage.

Also, there are parts where you have to shimmy across a rope hanging over a dog. Unless I'm retarded, there's no way to get past it without taking a hit. You can't shoot down when on the rope, and you can't shoot in the air.

>>453934
You hold up, wait for the dog to pass, keep on crossing, when the dog comes back you hold up, wait again, and so on.

>that feel when I grew up playing EWJ 3D for my N64

I never beat that first boss. But I will always blame that on it being a shitty game.

Actually, I don't remember anything specific about it that made it bad, just that everybody hated it. What was so bad with EWJ 3D?

>>453934
You do know you can kill the dog right?
You do know if you hold up on a rope Jim will pull himself up right
You do know you can jump on a rope right?

If you can't do these basic things I don't think you will be able to beat the game even on easy mode.

>>454041

I didn't know the second thing. Killing the dogs isn't the issue, it's avoiding getting hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqD3Wl_mZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0DagHVOapU

>Implying this isn't the greatest ending in videogames

Which version of Earthworm Jim 2 is the best one?, i'm between the DOS, PSX, and Saturn versions.

>Get urge to play EWJ2
>Load up emulator and ROM
>Get to level 2 on SNES
>Game freezes hard
>Get DOS version
>Get past a few levels, hit ESC to pause game as was standard on all games DOS onwards
>Resets the game instead
Fuck.

Beat it normally: Get a treatise on the life of the fucking earthworm straight out of a biology book read to you.
Beat it on hard: Shiny goes on for minutes how amazing that is and how you should be proud of yourself in any situation in life for it, even if you fuck up and land in jail or somesuch.

>>453995
Maybe it's that it wasn't anything like the other two in the slightest. It kind of lost the charm when it jumped.
I still like it though...

>>454135
All of them are equal, unless you don't have a game pad for your PC.

>>454265
>>Shiny said I was the best
>>I'm the best... I'm the best! I'M THE BEST!

>>454346
And by all of them, I meant the ones you mentioned

>>453847
When you land on the ropes instantly hold down and fire, they normally just gravitate to you. You will be able to easily kill them without taking damage when you are crossing on the chains.

On ledges just fake trying to go up the ledge like jump to it but move away to lure them to the ledge and just whip them.

I mean For Pete's Sake, it gets more maddening after the first two levels. Just wait until you hit Down the Tubes.

Shiny understood that cows are funny.

PC > Genesis > Snes

i never played this as a kid, tried the genesis version a few months ago and just couldn't get into it. i don't really see the appeal.

>>453913
This sums up my experience with the game.

>>453913
>>457363
If you just hang in there and go for a little bit of figuring it our and trial and error, it becomes one of the easier parts in succeeding playtroughs.
Seriously, if an idiot like me could breeze trough it about 10 years since he last played it, so can you.

Which is the best platform to play 1 and 2 on?

>>457391
1=sega cd

>>457429
Or PC.
2 = PS, Saturn or PC.

>>453913
Not sure why people have trouble with that part. I've never had even an ounce of trouble with it. The helicopter level however...

EWJ is fucking awesome. I only had EWJ2 as a kid, and I played the shit out of it. I played EWJ1 years later through emulation.

EWJ2 is just..perfect. Atleast to me. The controls took some time to get used to, but it's great.
>pig carrying
>dodging grandmas
>digging through soil
>fighting a fucking acrobat insect
>catching dogs on marshmallows
>going through pizzas
>inflated head

>>457391
EJ1 on the SEGA CD
EJ2 on the SEGA Saturn

>>457619
The problem I had with Earthworm Jim 2 is that a lot of the weapons really don't get many uses since there aren't many action platforming levels since the game constantly switching among styles, and even when you get to those sorts of levels they don't give out a lot of the weapons. I think it is just the first level, level ate, and possibly the last level that you get unique weapons, and it is really on the heavy side for the first stage. It just feels like it never needed to be in the game at all.

Played EWJ2 first, multiple times and loved it, before eventually getting round to playing the first, and I found it really hard to get into. I really didn't enjoy it and haven't played it against since.

>>458753
That's not really a problem though; the weapons are just there as entertaining fluff.

I have to say EWJ2 really is the better game; the variety and the pacing are just perfect. But unfortunately it made some sacrifices to the character animation to achieve what it did; the animation in the first one really looks like nothing else. The first game is also harder, which is a plus in some ways, and has more of an "iconic" status somehow. I guess I fluctuate back and forth in terms of which one I prefer.

One thing I do have to say though, definitely go with the Genesis for the first game and the SNES for the second game.

I never liked how EWJ 2 seemed to consist mostly of minigames than actual platforming. Granted, EWJ 1 had its share of diverse level design and it does help to break the monotony, but 2 just does it way too much. It's as if every level is almost a completely different game, and none of them are really that polished. I mean, I still love it, but 1 is definitely the better game in my eyes.

>>453913
There´s a hidden oxygen tube at the mid-level, behind what seems like a solid wall. It gave you 99 or 60 seconds, I don´t remember it very well.

>>460949
Fuck, this game makes Battletoads look like Kirby's Adventure.

I took a try at the Game Boy version of Earthworm Jim today. Don't even try it if you never have, the game is pretty much the same as the GEN/SNES version but it hurts your eyes in about 5 minutes

I could never get past the first boss as a kid.

I still can't today. ;_;

>>462301
Shoot at him until he dies.

Literally. The game doesn't give you any notification that your gunfire is hurting him and he takes a shitload of hits to die, but that's how you do it.

>>453934
You must be retarded. You shoot down by pressing "down" and "shoot" at the same time.

>>462301
Really? If your talking about EJ1, you whip the box to the spring, it'll bounce up and hit him. You do this four times. Avoid his fish belching and falling french horns.

>>463092
Oh wait, I forgot about the mini boss. Just avoid him and falling french horns and keep shooting.

>>457619
Don't forget this gem.

I played the game so much that I can't see why people find it so hard. Except for Buttville. Fuck Buttville.

>>463202
What the fuck was up with that section anyway?
Why was he suddenly a salamander?

>>463234
Why not?

>>457302
Snes had better sound and graphics than Genesis, BUT Genesis had a sweet extra level where Jim ran inside someone else's intestines.

I think the Sega CD version had yet another extra level.

>>463321
It also had the dark room levels.

>>463368
The Snes version also had a dark room level with those giant eyes waiting at the end.

I remember Shiny saying that since the Snes used 256 color graphics (compared with the 64 on the Genesis) they ran out of space and the Snes version had to sacrifice a level.

>>463437
This is also why the SNES suffers from extremely muffled music and sound effects. Genesis music, barring PCM samples, doesn't take up any cartridge space. It's just files telling the synthesizer what to do and what notes to play. SNES doesn't have a synthesizer; it's dependant on WAV samples to make music.

Remember that the game was made for the Genesis and then ported over to the Super Nintendo as more or less an afterthought. They probably had to compress the samples to hell in order to get everything to fit on the cartridge (Even the PCM samples on the Genesis sound less compressed than they do on the Super Nintendo, in an ironic twist), and sacrificing the arguably most forgettable level was probably the best option.

EWJ will always have a special place in my heart. I've played these game so much, so many rentals, so many hours. Now I own them both!

>>463804
>SNES versions

>>463804

>be 6-10 years old
>Can never get past second underwater level
>rent EWJ multiple times
>Maybe I'll get it this time!

WHAT THE FUCK WAS WRONG WITH ME

>>463869

>>>/v/

>>463869
Post your Genesis carts then. I've played both versions.

> Find out that Earthworms are ten-times superior to humans
> Earthworms are capable of reaching and sucking their own dicks with little to no effort
> mfw