/vr/ - Retro Games

25th Anniversary
Judgement Rites
Final Unity

With the exception of the modern gaming climate I think films translate into games more directly than TV series. Star Trek could make a bitchin MMO though.

Trek is simply harder to translate into an action oriented game

>>4504138
Space quest

>>4504138
Consortium

I actually liked Starfleet Academy, shitty acting aside.

It works better as a strategy or adventure game than an arcade one.

Elite Force was pretty good.

Star Wars appeals to kids more while only adult neckbeards like Trek.

>>4504138
25 Anniversary Edition is generally considered to be a good adventure game.

>>4504138
>25th Anniversary
>Starfleet Command
>Judgement Rites
>Kobayashimaru
>Promethean Prophecy
>Final Unity
>The Rebel Universe
>Elite Force

There have been plenty of good games.

>>4504185
>Star Trek could make a bitchin MMO though.
And yet it didn't. A massive disappointment all around.

>>4504571
I like STO...

>>4504609
Oh yeah? Now tell me when you first started playing it, and when the last time you played it was. Be honest.

>>4504571
It still could have if it wasn't bungled.

A story based RPG type game would work well with Star Trek. Star Wars lends itself more readily to action style games which is part of why there were more in the retro era. Also, licencing.

>>4504621
I started playing it after it went F2P in 2013. I did play it pretty consistently for a couple years before losing interest. Now that's common for me to drop and MMO and give myself a year or two to recharge my interest - I've done it with WoW and LotRO many times. I legitimately tried a couple times to try and play STO again but I have issues with my account where all my characters won't load despite my account info coming through valid. If I could get my account working right then I would definitely be diving back in.

Tradewars? Seems pretty damn close.

>>4504138
You better get out of here Dukat.

>>4504138
There's Elite Force, from the same developers as Jedi Outcast, unfortunately it's based on the worst Trek series.

>>4504138
I recall there being a pretty good first person shooter in the late 90s or early 2000s.

>>4506303
There should have been an fps by this developer that took place during the dominion war or post-enterprise with those marines during the romulan war

I mean fuck, they could've done enterprise E during the dominion war

Star Trek is more about the story and characters while Star Wars is all about action. Probably why ST 25th Anniversary works so well a point and click adventure game.

That being said I would love an FPS Star Trek game where you play as O'Brien and you get to murder a bunch of cardassians.

>>4507261
>while Star Wars is all about action

Except for the prequels which are all about politics.

>>4506303
>>4506502
The thing is how would that affect the game? You'd be fighting nothing but Jem Hedar, Cardies and the occasional shapeshifter boss. Using Voyager and its copout reset button powers as the base actually provided a more flexible setting for the game features all sorts of enemies to keep things ineteresting. In a Dominion War game you wouldn't have the chance to fight Borg, Klingons or mirror universe Terran imperials from the 2260's. Sometimes there's more to consider than just 'they based it on the bad show!'.

>>4504138
false, get on classic macs' level
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/4616-nettrek
http://rescue.sourceforge.net/

So if Star Trek fags are called Trekkies what do we call Star Wars fags?

>>4504138
one of treks best moments

>>4508180
Warsies I guess

>>4504185
Star trek has many pretty good mmos.

EGA Trek is pretty cool

>>4508180
Delusional.

The first Elite Force is fantastic

>>4504138
Dukat get off the internet!

Never got into all the mods but I enjoyed it.

>34 posts
>no mention of the Strategic Operations Simulator

What the fuck.

>>4508180
Virgins

It's easier to make games for kids and manchildren who actually watch Star Wars.

>>4508313
Any moment with Bill is Trek's best moment

>>4504138
Mass Effect 1 2 and 3.

>>4510693
Ass Defect >>>/v/

>>4504162
>>4504138
This
25th Anniv. and Rites (even the talking versions) are pretty great games. The writers really made it feel like TOS episodes

>>4504138
>Anyone else find it weird how Star Trek has been around longer than Star Wars yet hasn't had a single halfway decent game?

The reason is very simple:
Star Wars: lots of chasing, shooting, tech, etc.
Star Trek: less of everything I just mentioned

>>4510693
I always got more of a Babylon 5 vibe from Mass effect than a Star Trek one.

>>4510693
>comparing that trash to Star Trek

>>4508180
Everyone else.

>>4504237
Star control 2 is inspired by Star Trek and that game is awesome.

It can be done, it just needs the right team.

I had the shareware version of WinTrek as a kid and enjoyed that quite a lot. Flying around space fucking up Klingon ships and refueling at space ports.

>>4508180
Normies.

>>4510693
Literally a rip-off of Star control.

>>4504138
Miri?

>>4510693
They have more in common with Battlestar Galactica

>>4504185
Off topic but that episode was awful, it didn't really have any meaningful critique of star trek or nerd culture, it was just "lol look how creepy this guy is"

I think Star Control 2, captures the spirit of this series very well. You go around talking/interacting with different species from all around either via diplomatic or by means of combat. It has a lot of freedom in how you set your course. You can land on many of the planets (whether you make it or not depends on your ability and technology) and check things out. I loved Star Control 2 so much, I accepted even cheaper imitations like Solar Winds and loved that too.

A friend of mine loves the Mass Effect series and based on the stories I heard, they seem to fit the bill too, but are not retro. To be fair, Bioware will make him spend money anytime.

How are Klingon Honour Guard and DS9: The Fallen? Any good? For some reason I always thought the latter was a Quake 3 engine game, but it turns out to be a Unreal engine game. I wonder why I thought that.

>>4504138

Klingon Academy is the best starship sim ever made. It is perfect in every way, especially when you level up your autism to control each system individually for maximum efficiency

Also the story mode is a wonderfully corny Star Trek VI prequel starring Christopher Plummer

Also mod community is insane even 20 years later

>>4504337
Agreed. It was a fun shooter.

>>4504562
This, also

>Deep Space Nine: The Fallen

>>4508693
I’d call that projection, but I remember an old news story that proved Trekkies got their dicks wet at least once in their lives.
>On one wall [of the law enforcement offices] is a 'Star Trek' poster with investigators' faces substituted for the Starship Enterprise crew. But even that alludes to a dark fact of their work: All but one of the offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/27/world/fg-photo27

>>4506303
>unfortunately it's based on the worst Trek series.

False, there never was a Star Trek: Enterprise game.

>>4504138

>Anyone else find it weird how shooting and swording is a video game crutch for the inability to program meaningful interaction with game worlds?

I want to be the logistics officer in COD. I want to be the Merchant in D&D. I want to play the Sims and do more than fill a bar.

Nobody's mentioned it? Seriously?

>>4510693
>2 and 3

>>>/out/

>>4514337
I knew someone would make that crack eventually.
Anyway, there were some ENT levels in Star Trek: Legacy. Also season 4 of enterprise reached levels of greatness that Voyager simply never did, thus securing Voyager's spot as the worst series.

>>4506303

elite force 2 is based on tng

>>4504138
This is bait.

>>4515770
Probably, but Star Trek threads are always fun so it's alright.

HIJACKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjehKDbo_7s

It'd be interesting though to see a Freelancer/Privateer/Elite type of game done in the Star Trek universe, dunno how you'd do it since shit like trade, bounties, etc aren't a big deal in that setting unless you go to the non-fed areas, but being able to explore around in your own ship and run into various races or factions is neat

If only we had a Star Trek Galaxies

>>4518204
good episode though making the phaser blaster took me a while to figure out

Where can one find the entirety of the Star Trek 25th Anniversary soundtrack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq55W6v0cFw

>>4518945
I have some MIDIs for you that have to be played with a MT-32 (or munt) for proper instruments. I think the only way to get the soundtrack is for someone to play through the whole game and record each track one at a time with the sfx off via dosbox or something. Doable, but super tedius

>>4518465
That level of complexity and depth certainly wouild fit better in a Star Trek setting than Star Wars, that is for sure. It's no wonder that game died, the game's scope drastically clashed with the setting.

>>4519860
Not to mention it it had no chance at competing with the extremely overrated KOTOR.

>>4519881
Careful with that opinion there, it's too correct for your own good.

>>4504138
you make it sound like videogames have been around just as long and therefore a good star trek game is long overdue. who gives a shit?

Tons of great Star Trek games, but a shit ton more mediocre ones, then you have the shitty ones, Chuck. I think the Genesis version of Star Trek TNG was one of the good ones.

>>4518954
Ah, the old fashioned way. I only wish I had the time to do that sort of thing. I did find some guy who has ripped most if not all the tracks as they appear in Judgement Rites so all is not entirely lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hhx_Q_TDGc

>>4519892
Because some of us old fogeys are insecure and are worried Star Trek may be going the way of Lensman.

>>4519941
It was better than it had any right to be if a little awkward to control at times.

>>4504138
best star trek comin thru

Computer, create a brand new Star Trek series that isn't horse shit.

Disengage safety protocols.

>>4520884
Good job Broccoli, you created one that is cow shit instead. It is called Discovery.

>>4508180
George Lucas

VENGEANCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2b0TraYmhQ

>>4521817
I hope RLM's theory is right and we've been watching some parallel, mirror-like universe this whole time instead.